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谁能介绍一下土工在北卡做能源的市场情况。

谁能介绍一下土工在北卡做能源的市场情况。# CivilEngineering - 土木工程

o*c2014-01-15 08:01

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Buy Feb Crude and Sell Dec Crude. $23 Spread for 10 months. It is insane!
U can either take Feb physical delivery or roll the contract until Dec.
Storage cost/rolling contract cost is negligible.

c*t2014-01-15 08:01

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最近在想如何利用空余时间和自己的专业特长，在自己的职业生涯有所进步。在医疗设
备软件（特别是信号和图像处理和显示）领域，我也有10+年的在校和工业研究开发经
历。
看见国内许多甲级医院用的医疗软件很多是从美国进口，价格很高。地方医院和诊所一
般很难负担。我想随着我们国家老龄化，势必需要更符合国情的产品。一个方法是消化
，改进，和从新设计美国这边的产品，在国内开发。
另一个好处自然也能增加几个就业机会在中国。上个月在国内旅行，感觉很多大学生没
工作。
各位弟姐妹看法如何，欢迎回复讨论。

T*p2014-01-15 08:01

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说是有140道题来着据说是史上最全的二十四人格测试，不知道测试的真实度有多少，
反正我做了之后让我做设计什么的工作。对画画没感觉对数学也没感觉啊...这算是我
跑偏了吗？还是它冒场了？
顺求一个心理医生看病人之前的那个测试的试卷，我朋友想做做看她最近失恋情绪低落
的有点特别了已经

s*y2014-01-15 08:01

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WSN2008提到北卡做能源的土工收入不错。
谁能介绍一下土工在北卡做能源的市场情况？主要是哪些公司，做什么，收入如何？
有做石油行业的么？
我真的是很喜欢北卡呢。工资低点也愿意啊。

s*n2014-01-15 08:01

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sigh, 就你聪明。你 rolling contract 一次看看？赔死你。
你 take 一次 physical delivery，看看现在你能找到地方存么？
别把市场当傻子，for everything happens, there is a reason.

【在 o*****c 的大作中提到】

: Buy Feb Crude and Sell Dec Crude. $23 Spread for 10 months. It is insane!
: U can either take Feb physical delivery or roll the contract until Dec.
: Storage cost/rolling contract cost is negligible.

S*S2014-01-15 08:01

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搞这些的国内多如牛毛，你得有些跟他们不同的技术
推广的话也需要了解国情

【在 c******t 的大作中提到】

: 最近在想如何利用空余时间和自己的专业特长，在自己的职业生涯有所进步。在医疗设
: 备软件（特别是信号和图像处理和显示）领域，我也有10+年的在校和工业研究开发经
: 历。
: 看见国内许多甲级医院用的医疗软件很多是从美国进口，价格很高。地方医院和诊所一
: 般很难负担。我想随着我们国家老龄化，势必需要更符合国情的产品。一个方法是消化
: ，改进，和从新设计美国这边的产品，在国内开发。
: 另一个好处自然也能增加几个就业机会在中国。上个月在国内旅行，感觉很多大学生没
: 工作。
: 各位弟姐妹看法如何，欢迎回复讨论。

z*i2014-01-15 08:01

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主要几家核电公司，不过日本地震以后日子都不好过了……
收入和稳定性都不如油工

★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8

【在 s*******y 的大作中提到】

: WSN2008提到北卡做能源的土工收入不错。
: 谁能介绍一下土工在北卡做能源的市场情况？主要是哪些公司，做什么，收入如何？
: 有做石油行业的么？
: 我真的是很喜欢北卡呢。工资低点也愿意啊。

o*c2014-01-15 08:01

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if the spread is too high when you try to roll front month contract to the next month, just take the delivery. why not be able to find a place to store? so many storerage places in Oklahoma.

【在 s********n 的大作中提到】

: sigh, 就你聪明。你 rolling contract 一次看看？赔死你。
: 你 take 一次 physical delivery，看看现在你能找到地方存么？
: 别把市场当傻子，for everything happens, there is a reason.

c*t2014-01-15 08:01

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我所在的公司产品，目前全球只用两家。

【在 S********S 的大作中提到】

: 搞这些的国内多如牛毛，你得有些跟他们不同的技术
: 推广的话也需要了解国情

W*82014-01-15 08:01

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我的一个朋友土工名校PHD，核能源方向做了4年多，前年被裁员，虽然才35岁，他说核
能源土工经常去工地，而且离家比较远，所以不想再找核能源方向土工了，一般的小打
小闹的土工工作实在无聊，去德州找油工吧，他们两口子去了看看，很不喜欢houston,
而且自己估计起薪最多8万，目前在家专门炒股钓鱼做饭，现在比较颓废。据说老婆命
令他学个CS的MS，是NCSU的网上课程，交州内学费，网上CS MS出来，好点的也能在北
卡找到8万。

s*n2014-01-15 08:01

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you are too late seeing the contango problem.
there are plenty of articles explaining why the contango is so huge.
just google.

【在 o*****c 的大作中提到】

: if the spread is too high when you try to roll front month contract to the next month, just take the delivery. why not be able to find a place to store? so many storerage places in Oklahoma.

S*S2014-01-15 08:01

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这么好的机会，那就跳出来开一家

【在 c******t 的大作中提到】

: 我所在的公司产品，目前全球只用两家。

s*y2014-01-15 08:01

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看来北卡的土工还是不好混啊。谢谢了。

o*c2014-01-15 08:01

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i don't care about the reason other writers talk about. just want to know
whether money can be exacted from this extremely abnormal curve. if a
storage place can be found to take the physical crude in Feb, is there any
other problem to get the 60% profit?

【在 s********n 的大作中提到】

: you are too late seeing the contango problem.
: there are plenty of articles explaining why the contango is so huge.
: just google.

T*C2014-01-15 08:01

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我对您这个领域的硬件比较感兴趣，不过对医疗设备没有任何概念，您能简单的介绍一
下吗？

H*E2014-01-15 08:01

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geotech Ph.D.with <5 years experience.
around $60k to $70k in company, maybe $50k to $60k in NCDOT. don't think it'
s any better than other States.
never heard/know any job opportunities in O&G industry in this State.

s*n2014-01-15 08:01

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well, yes, as long as you can find a storage with cost (including
the transportation) less than the contango ...
And that's the problem, you can't ... not now.

【在 o*****c 的大作中提到】

: i don't care about the reason other writers talk about. just want to know
: whether money can be exacted from this extremely abnormal curve. if a
: storage place can be found to take the physical crude in Feb, is there any
: other problem to get the 60% profit?

c*t2014-01-15 08:01

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Hardware part is complicated. It may not be easy to start up soon. Like CT
and MRI, only very few companies have the techniques and resources,

【在 T***C 的大作中提到】

: 我对您这个领域的硬件比较感兴趣，不过对医疗设备没有任何概念，您能简单的介绍一
: 下吗？

z*i2014-01-15 08:01

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是能源公司么？有绿卡就跳了吧。

it'
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8

【在 H**E 的大作中提到】

: geotech Ph.D.with <5 years experience.
: around $60k to $70k in company, maybe $50k to $60k in NCDOT. don't think it'
: s any better than other States.
: never heard/know any job opportunities in O&G industry in this State.

K*D2014-01-15 08:01

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how about backyard?

【在 s********n 的大作中提到】

: well, yes, as long as you can find a storage with cost (including
: the transportation) less than the contango ...
: And that's the problem, you can't ... not now.

s*t2014-01-15 08:01

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记得东软似乎已经在做这个了。

【在 c******t 的大作中提到】

H*E2014-01-15 08:01

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traditional engineering consulting firm. just got the GC and looking to
jump, but it seems there is not many local openning available.. sigh..

【在 z******i 的大作中提到】

: 是能源公司么？有绿卡就跳了吧。
:
: it'
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8

s*n2014-01-15 08:01

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each contract is 42000 gallons. If you got enough containers in your
backyard, sure...

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】

: how about backyard?

b*j2014-01-15 08:01

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做这个的几十家几百家。去RSNA看看就知道了。还有没去RSNA的。水很深的。不是说我
是image processing的大拿就行了。marketing, sales比技术重要多了. VC也不是很好找
bbs上这专业的其实不少，还有教授，如果合力做个什么专利倒是还不错。

【在 s****t 的大作中提到】

:
: 记得东软似乎已经在做这个了。
:

z*i2014-01-15 08:01

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有机会就跳吧，能源公司能比你现在高至少20-30%

★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8

【在 H**E 的大作中提到】

: traditional engineering consulting firm. just got the GC and looking to
: jump, but it seems there is not many local openning available.. sigh..

j*12014-01-15 08:01

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according to a wsj report a week ago, cushing storage facilities are almost
full. people are also bidding up floating oil tanks. Storage cost is no
longer negligible.

c*u2014-01-15 08:01

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你是说作CT吧？

H*E2014-01-15 08:01

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是啊我也想跳，但似乎本地合适的工作机会也不多。如果将来你知道有Geotec 方面
的机会请告诉我。多谢!

【在 z******i 的大作中提到】

: 有机会就跳吧，能源公司能比你现在高至少20-30%
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8

K*D2014-01-15 08:01

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Good yah, my $1.5 gas dream is looking good...

almost

【在 j********1 的大作中提到】

: according to a wsj report a week ago, cushing storage facilities are almost
: full. people are also bidding up floating oil tanks. Storage cost is no
: longer negligible.

f*g2014-01-15 08:01

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my brother in law was already hiring ppl to do this in china 3 years ago...
they sell medical equipments all over china. he's on business trips 11
months in a year, yes, 11 months.
they knew 软件很多是从美国进口，价格很高, and took away a lot of their
profits.
so they tried to create 山寨 version. according to him, it was pretty close
to real version, lol.

【在 c******t 的大作中提到】

z*i2014-01-15 08:01

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最近大家日子大不好过，等机会吧

★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8

【在 H**E 的大作中提到】

: 是啊我也想跳，但似乎本地合适的工作机会也不多。如果将来你知道有Geotec 方面
: 的机会请告诉我。多谢!

j*12014-01-15 08:01

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i already enjoyed 1.5$/gallon shell gas a month ago. now even oil price went
back to below 40, gas price here is still hovering around 1.95. i don't
know why. maybe due to bad weather.

【在 K****D 的大作中提到】

: Good yah, my $1.5 gas dream is looking good...
:
: almost

T*C2014-01-15 08:01

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谢谢

【在 c******t 的大作中提到】

: Hardware part is complicated. It may not be easy to start up soon. Like CT
: and MRI, only very few companies have the techniques and resources,

m*u2014-01-15 08:01

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It seems that some IBs already rent supertanks to store oil. It is estimated
that the storage fee is $1.5 per barrel per month.

next month, just take the delivery. why not be able to find a place to
store? so many storerage places in Oklahoma.

【在 o*****c 的大作中提到】

: if the spread is too high when you try to roll front month contract to the next month, just take the delivery. why not be able to find a place to store? so many storerage places in Oklahoma.

s*n2014-01-15 08:01

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what is IB?
If you mean investment bankers, they don't do this kind of job.
If you mean investment banks, they don't exist any more...

estimated

【在 m******u 的大作中提到】

: It seems that some IBs already rent supertanks to store oil. It is estimated
: that the storage fee is $1.5 per barrel per month.
:
: next month, just take the delivery. why not be able to find a place to
: store? so many storerage places in Oklahoma.

m*u2014-01-15 08:01

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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ax3DSN5JZsBY&refer=home
For IB, I mean commodity trade departments in large banks, e.g. Citibank,
Morgan Stanley, Deutsche Bank.

【在 s********n 的大作中提到】

: what is IB?
: If you mean investment bankers, they don't do this kind of job.
: If you mean investment banks, they don't exist any more...
:
: estimated

c*e2014-01-15 08:01

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On December 19, 2008, Jan contract was trading at $33 while
Feb contract was trading at $42.5. So the profit would be
almost 30% in a month, if one can store and ship the oil.