s*l
2 楼
找了几家空运代理公司, 有一家报价不错
深圳到美国加州, 门到门, DDU,
350公斤/2CB
价格: 25.5人民币/KG
保险是按千分之3 收取.
请各位大虾帮忙看看靠谱吗, 如果有好的货代推荐请站内信.
还有空运过海关,需要我提供一些什么文件呢,还有要注意的事项有经验的大虾请给些建
议.
不胜感激
深圳到美国加州, 门到门, DDU,
350公斤/2CB
价格: 25.5人民币/KG
保险是按千分之3 收取.
请各位大虾帮忙看看靠谱吗, 如果有好的货代推荐请站内信.
还有空运过海关,需要我提供一些什么文件呢,还有要注意的事项有经验的大虾请给些建
议.
不胜感激
k*5
3 楼
promoted! xixi
a*a
4 楼
我要看比赛。。。kao
k*a
5 楼
但还是想说,小西唱的那个白熊ED好治愈诶...
j*l
6 楼
都是些什么专业呀?
a*a
7 楼
这是哪家货代,能告诉我吗?谢谢。
b*n
8 楼
gxgx :P
再发一轮包子吧
再发一轮包子吧
f*t
9 楼
31号就TM关了。。还要关几天?
k*n
10 楼
是吧是吧!
企鹅还没唱过吧?我很期待这个来的。
企鹅还没唱过吧?我很期待这个来的。
f*b
11 楼
去年我们学校有两个中国人没拿到,被迫走人了。。
l*1
12 楼
价格上看,已经非常便宜了。而且是门到门的服务。但是很有可能时间会比较长,排仓
货,非直航货。
货,非直航货。
l*1
20 楼
那门到门就要30往上了
a*n
23 楼
No big deal. It happened to me once and I am still alive.
s*y
24 楼
Really? Are you still working in the same field?
I'm scared because I'm afraid that I won't get employed in the same field
after I failed getting tenure. My assumption is: 1) No univ. will hire me as
a tenure-track AP because I failed once. 1) Lower-level job (post-doc or
research AP position) won't fit me any more. They would only want to hire
fresh PhD's instead of an old, failed horse.
Please verify this from your own experience. Thanks!
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: No big deal. It happened to me once and I am still alive.
I'm scared because I'm afraid that I won't get employed in the same field
after I failed getting tenure. My assumption is: 1) No univ. will hire me as
a tenure-track AP because I failed once. 1) Lower-level job (post-doc or
research AP position) won't fit me any more. They would only want to hire
fresh PhD's instead of an old, failed horse.
Please verify this from your own experience. Thanks!
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: No big deal. It happened to me once and I am still alive.
j*a
25 楼
With a good record of publications and grants, I believe you can find other
AP positions if it's not working with your current position.
as
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: Really? Are you still working in the same field?
: I'm scared because I'm afraid that I won't get employed in the same field
: after I failed getting tenure. My assumption is: 1) No univ. will hire me as
: a tenure-track AP because I failed once. 1) Lower-level job (post-doc or
: research AP position) won't fit me any more. They would only want to hire
: fresh PhD's instead of an old, failed horse.
: Please verify this from your own experience. Thanks!
AP positions if it's not working with your current position.
as
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: Really? Are you still working in the same field?
: I'm scared because I'm afraid that I won't get employed in the same field
: after I failed getting tenure. My assumption is: 1) No univ. will hire me as
: a tenure-track AP because I failed once. 1) Lower-level job (post-doc or
: research AP position) won't fit me any more. They would only want to hire
: fresh PhD's instead of an old, failed horse.
: Please verify this from your own experience. Thanks!
l*s
26 楼
You can always go to a lower level university to get a professor job in the
same field. They may even give you tenure directly.
as
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: Really? Are you still working in the same field?
: I'm scared because I'm afraid that I won't get employed in the same field
: after I failed getting tenure. My assumption is: 1) No univ. will hire me as
: a tenure-track AP because I failed once. 1) Lower-level job (post-doc or
: research AP position) won't fit me any more. They would only want to hire
: fresh PhD's instead of an old, failed horse.
: Please verify this from your own experience. Thanks!
same field. They may even give you tenure directly.
as
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: Really? Are you still working in the same field?
: I'm scared because I'm afraid that I won't get employed in the same field
: after I failed getting tenure. My assumption is: 1) No univ. will hire me as
: a tenure-track AP because I failed once. 1) Lower-level job (post-doc or
: research AP position) won't fit me any more. They would only want to hire
: fresh PhD's instead of an old, failed horse.
: Please verify this from your own experience. Thanks!
s*y
30 楼
Exactly. I know probably I was too conservative. Usually it should be OK.
Only concern is what if I won't get any funding in 6 years? Funding sometime
is based on how lucky you are.
papers/yr, 300-500K grant in six years, average teaching and service...If
you are not confident of these, you may need to re-think your career path.
【在 j**********a 的大作中提到】
: How hard to survive in a tier 3/4 Univ.? (ENG area, non BME) 2-3 journal papers/yr, 300-500K grant in six years, average teaching and service...If you are not confident of these, you may need to re-think your career path.
Only concern is what if I won't get any funding in 6 years? Funding sometime
is based on how lucky you are.
papers/yr, 300-500K grant in six years, average teaching and service...If
you are not confident of these, you may need to re-think your career path.
【在 j**********a 的大作中提到】
: How hard to survive in a tier 3/4 Univ.? (ENG area, non BME) 2-3 journal papers/yr, 300-500K grant in six years, average teaching and service...If you are not confident of these, you may need to re-think your career path.
p*d
31 楼
其实换个工作也不错, 还可以换一个自己喜欢的城市
sometime
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: Exactly. I know probably I was too conservative. Usually it should be OK.
: Only concern is what if I won't get any funding in 6 years? Funding sometime
: is based on how lucky you are.
:
: papers/yr, 300-500K grant in six years, average teaching and service...If
: you are not confident of these, you may need to re-think your career path.
sometime
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: Exactly. I know probably I was too conservative. Usually it should be OK.
: Only concern is what if I won't get any funding in 6 years? Funding sometime
: is based on how lucky you are.
:
: papers/yr, 300-500K grant in six years, average teaching and service...If
: you are not confident of these, you may need to re-think your career path.
p*d
32 楼
2-3 journals per year, 300-500k, 如果都是正经地方(nsf/ieee trans), 应该
可以在美国绝大多数学校拿到tenure了
papers/yr, 300-500K grant in six years, average teaching and service...If
you are not confident of these, you may need to re-think your career path.
【在 j**********a 的大作中提到】
: How hard to survive in a tier 3/4 Univ.? (ENG area, non BME) 2-3 journal papers/yr, 300-500K grant in six years, average teaching and service...If you are not confident of these, you may need to re-think your career path.
可以在美国绝大多数学校拿到tenure了
papers/yr, 300-500K grant in six years, average teaching and service...If
you are not confident of these, you may need to re-think your career path.
【在 j**********a 的大作中提到】
: How hard to survive in a tier 3/4 Univ.? (ENG area, non BME) 2-3 journal papers/yr, 300-500K grant in six years, average teaching and service...If you are not confident of these, you may need to re-think your career path.
l*o
35 楼
不要吓人
o*y
36 楼
Do your best and prepare for the worst. Life is unfair, shit happens.
l*u
37 楼
提心吊胆近一年后, 今天被告知我的 TENURE 已经被 PROVOST 批准了, 要送给
CHANCELLOR 和 BOT 最后批准.
不知道下面的过程还有没有变数, 知道的请指教.
CHANCELLOR 和 BOT 最后批准.
不知道下面的过程还有没有变数, 知道的请指教.
a*n
38 楼
Many many years ago, a US News third tier university in Florida hired two
Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
j*a
40 楼
I didn't mean 300-500K of federal grant.Any money, internal, state, industry
....
Share a story (just for relaxing). I once interviewed at a tier3/4 Univ and
the associate Dean gave me a list of "suggested" requirements for tenure: 4-
5 papers/yr, $700-900K research grant (must include at least one federal
grant like NSF). I showed the list to the search committee chair. He laughed
and said "bullshit".
【在 p***d 的大作中提到】
: 2-3 journals per year, 300-500k, 如果都是正经地方(nsf/ieee trans), 应该
: 可以在美国绝大多数学校拿到tenure了
:
: papers/yr, 300-500K grant in six years, average teaching and service...If
: you are not confident of these, you may need to re-think your career path.
....
Share a story (just for relaxing). I once interviewed at a tier3/4 Univ and
the associate Dean gave me a list of "suggested" requirements for tenure: 4-
5 papers/yr, $700-900K research grant (must include at least one federal
grant like NSF). I showed the list to the search committee chair. He laughed
and said "bullshit".
【在 p***d 的大作中提到】
: 2-3 journals per year, 300-500k, 如果都是正经地方(nsf/ieee trans), 应该
: 可以在美国绝大多数学校拿到tenure了
:
: papers/yr, 300-500K grant in six years, average teaching and service...If
: you are not confident of these, you may need to re-think your career path.
j*a
41 楼
Great experience and attitude!
other,
But
new
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: Many many years ago, a US News third tier university in Florida hired two
: Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
: time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
: me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
: especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
: luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
: position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
other,
But
new
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: Many many years ago, a US News third tier university in Florida hired two
: Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
: time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
: me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
: especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
: luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
: position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
s*y
42 楼
真是因祸得福, 能人总有出头之日。谢谢分享!
other,
But
new
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: Many many years ago, a US News third tier university in Florida hired two
: Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
: time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
: me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
: especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
: luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
: position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
other,
But
new
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: Many many years ago, a US News third tier university in Florida hired two
: Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
: time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
: me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
: especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
: luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
: position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
h*n
43 楼
Very nice story and worthwhile experience. I put it in my collection.
other,
But
new
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: Many many years ago, a US News third tier university in Florida hired two
: Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
: time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
: me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
: especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
: luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
: position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
other,
But
new
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: Many many years ago, a US News third tier university in Florida hired two
: Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
: time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
: me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
: especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
: luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
: position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
C*S
44 楼
"hired two Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at
the same time."
Is the search committee nuts?
other,
But
new
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: Many many years ago, a US News third tier university in Florida hired two
: Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
: time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
: me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
: especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
: luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
: position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
the same time."
Is the search committee nuts?
other,
But
new
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: Many many years ago, a US News third tier university in Florida hired two
: Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
: time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
: me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
: especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
: luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
: position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
w*g
48 楼
no z-turn.
f*b
49 楼
300-500K in 6 years 能在绝大多数学校TENURE? 不可能吧,很多一流甚至二流没有两
个R01 (3-4M)别想TENURE。
还有说6年如果什么GRANT都拿不到怎么办?看什么FIELD, 如果在医学院,根本不可能
呆下去。。。
个R01 (3-4M)别想TENURE。
还有说6年如果什么GRANT都拿不到怎么办?看什么FIELD, 如果在医学院,根本不可能
呆下去。。。
j*f
52 楼
能不能麻烦问一下,什么是“R1”啊? 多谢! 新手。。。
other,
But
new
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: Many many years ago, a US News third tier university in Florida hired two
: Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
: time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
: me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
: especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
: luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
: position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
other,
But
new
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: Many many years ago, a US News third tier university in Florida hired two
: Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
: time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
: me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
: especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
: luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
: position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
g*8
54 楼
我之前一个师兄就是没拿到top学校的tenure,
然后去了UF继续AP.
没啥没啥
然后去了UF继续AP.
没啥没啥
a*e
55 楼
谢谢分享。赞~
生活不容易,苦尽甘来~~~~
other,
But
new
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: Many many years ago, a US News third tier university in Florida hired two
: Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
: time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
: me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
: especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
: luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
: position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
生活不容易,苦尽甘来~~~~
other,
But
new
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: Many many years ago, a US News third tier university in Florida hired two
: Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
: time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
: me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
: especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
: luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
: position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
l*s
56 楼
三十万到五十万哪里是这么好拿的,现在这个年景,更不要说在差校申请Funding本来就
吃亏
papers/yr, 300-500K grant in six years, average teaching and service...If
you are not confident of these, you may need to re-think your career path.
【在 j**********a 的大作中提到】
: How hard to survive in a tier 3/4 Univ.? (ENG area, non BME) 2-3 journal papers/yr, 300-500K grant in six years, average teaching and service...If you are not confident of these, you may need to re-think your career path.
吃亏
papers/yr, 300-500K grant in six years, average teaching and service...If
you are not confident of these, you may need to re-think your career path.
【在 j**********a 的大作中提到】
: How hard to survive in a tier 3/4 Univ.? (ENG area, non BME) 2-3 journal papers/yr, 300-500K grant in six years, average teaching and service...If you are not confident of these, you may need to re-think your career path.
s*y
57 楼
c*t
63 楼
赞淡定
other,
But
new
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: Many many years ago, a US News third tier university in Florida hired two
: Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
: time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
: me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
: especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
: luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
: position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
other,
But
new
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: Many many years ago, a US News third tier university in Florida hired two
: Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
: time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
: me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
: especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
: luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
: position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
j*a
64 楼
如果是federal money, 3,50万是不容易. 我的意思是, 乱七八糟什么钱都算上, 3-50
万/6年,是可行的. top school的要求是这个数字的2倍吧.
来就
【在 l*******s 的大作中提到】
: 三十万到五十万哪里是这么好拿的,现在这个年景,更不要说在差校申请Funding本来就
: 吃亏
:
: papers/yr, 300-500K grant in six years, average teaching and service...If
: you are not confident of these, you may need to re-think your career path.
万/6年,是可行的. top school的要求是这个数字的2倍吧.
来就
【在 l*******s 的大作中提到】
: 三十万到五十万哪里是这么好拿的,现在这个年景,更不要说在差校申请Funding本来就
: 吃亏
:
: papers/yr, 300-500K grant in six years, average teaching and service...If
: you are not confident of these, you may need to re-think your career path.
l*s
66 楼
Internal的钱评Tenure的时候是不算的,工业界的钱是很难忽悠的(如果不是比Federa
l的钱更难忽悠的话),国防部的钱没有关系基本上是没戏的,到哪里去找“乱七八糟”
的三五十万呢?
我们这儿的规定更操蛋,一定要有open call for proposal的,Peer Review 的compet
itive的钱才算。所以工业界的钱基本上都不算,州内的钱基本上都不算,国防部的钱一
多半也都不算。
50
【在 j**********a 的大作中提到】
: 如果是federal money, 3,50万是不容易. 我的意思是, 乱七八糟什么钱都算上, 3-50
: 万/6年,是可行的. top school的要求是这个数字的2倍吧.
:
: 来就
l的钱更难忽悠的话),国防部的钱没有关系基本上是没戏的,到哪里去找“乱七八糟”
的三五十万呢?
我们这儿的规定更操蛋,一定要有open call for proposal的,Peer Review 的compet
itive的钱才算。所以工业界的钱基本上都不算,州内的钱基本上都不算,国防部的钱一
多半也都不算。
50
【在 j**********a 的大作中提到】
: 如果是federal money, 3,50万是不容易. 我的意思是, 乱七八糟什么钱都算上, 3-50
: 万/6年,是可行的. top school的要求是这个数字的2倍吧.
:
: 来就
j*a
67 楼
拿funding这种事情, 大家都是八仙过海,各显神通.我说一些我知道的例子.
Internal grant, 新faculty拿这个的机会比较大, 少的一两万, 多的有十几万,看具体
学校的情况;
State grant, CA, TX, NY,FL等一些大州有很多的research funding.这个需要和
state agency比较好的关系,大家做faculty的"工作"之一就是发展network;而且毕竟
是本州内的竞争,稍微会小一些.我认识的一个在SDSU的教授,federal money没拿过,
state money上百万了.
Industry grant,这个要根据你做的东西, 和你学校所在地是否有比较发达的工业.
College town在这点上比大城市就差了不少,除非是特牛的那种大学(象UIUC),公司隔
着几个州也愿意给钱.总的来说,本地优势更大一些.
Foundation money,主要是生物医学方面的.
私人投资.很难很难,但不是不可能.很多风险投资公司手里拿着钱在找有希望的项目.
大公司一般不愿意投资早期科研,风险大,他们更愿意买现成的.而小公司则可能
【在 e****g 的大作中提到】
: 给点意见,如果搞些乱七八糟的钱来用用
:
: 50
Internal grant, 新faculty拿这个的机会比较大, 少的一两万, 多的有十几万,看具体
学校的情况;
State grant, CA, TX, NY,FL等一些大州有很多的research funding.这个需要和
state agency比较好的关系,大家做faculty的"工作"之一就是发展network;而且毕竟
是本州内的竞争,稍微会小一些.我认识的一个在SDSU的教授,federal money没拿过,
state money上百万了.
Industry grant,这个要根据你做的东西, 和你学校所在地是否有比较发达的工业.
College town在这点上比大城市就差了不少,除非是特牛的那种大学(象UIUC),公司隔
着几个州也愿意给钱.总的来说,本地优势更大一些.
Foundation money,主要是生物医学方面的.
私人投资.很难很难,但不是不可能.很多风险投资公司手里拿着钱在找有希望的项目.
大公司一般不愿意投资早期科研,风险大,他们更愿意买现成的.而小公司则可能
【在 e****g 的大作中提到】
: 给点意见,如果搞些乱七八糟的钱来用用
:
: 50
j*a
68 楼
Internal的钱可以维持实验室嘛.你们那里要求太严格了,我觉得能charge overhead
的钱都应该算.
Federa
糟”
compet
钱一
【在 l*******s 的大作中提到】
: Internal的钱评Tenure的时候是不算的,工业界的钱是很难忽悠的(如果不是比Federa
: l的钱更难忽悠的话),国防部的钱没有关系基本上是没戏的,到哪里去找“乱七八糟”
: 的三五十万呢?
: 我们这儿的规定更操蛋,一定要有open call for proposal的,Peer Review 的compet
: itive的钱才算。所以工业界的钱基本上都不算,州内的钱基本上都不算,国防部的钱一
: 多半也都不算。
:
: 50
的钱都应该算.
Federa
糟”
compet
钱一
【在 l*******s 的大作中提到】
: Internal的钱评Tenure的时候是不算的,工业界的钱是很难忽悠的(如果不是比Federa
: l的钱更难忽悠的话),国防部的钱没有关系基本上是没戏的,到哪里去找“乱七八糟”
: 的三五十万呢?
: 我们这儿的规定更操蛋,一定要有open call for proposal的,Peer Review 的compet
: itive的钱才算。所以工业界的钱基本上都不算,州内的钱基本上都不算,国防部的钱一
: 多半也都不算。
:
: 50
r*e
69 楼
my colleague who was denied tenure last yr is moving to a lower-tier
university in the same field.
as
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: Really? Are you still working in the same field?
: I'm scared because I'm afraid that I won't get employed in the same field
: after I failed getting tenure. My assumption is: 1) No univ. will hire me as
: a tenure-track AP because I failed once. 1) Lower-level job (post-doc or
: research AP position) won't fit me any more. They would only want to hire
: fresh PhD's instead of an old, failed horse.
: Please verify this from your own experience. Thanks!
university in the same field.
as
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: Really? Are you still working in the same field?
: I'm scared because I'm afraid that I won't get employed in the same field
: after I failed getting tenure. My assumption is: 1) No univ. will hire me as
: a tenure-track AP because I failed once. 1) Lower-level job (post-doc or
: research AP position) won't fit me any more. They would only want to hire
: fresh PhD's instead of an old, failed horse.
: Please verify this from your own experience. Thanks!
k*u
70 楼
我见过好几个没拿到Tenure的去工业界的,
很搞笑的是一个韩国人,他在一个小学校没拿到Tenure然后去了一公司当rsearch的小
组长(管4,5个人, 也管点钱),他一次到我们原来老板的实验室参观,却是神气的
不行对我们的东西指指点点怎么不行的,我老板至少也算中牛把,气得不行。 还是有
钱就niu b
很搞笑的是一个韩国人,他在一个小学校没拿到Tenure然后去了一公司当rsearch的小
组长(管4,5个人, 也管点钱),他一次到我们原来老板的实验室参观,却是神气的
不行对我们的东西指指点点怎么不行的,我老板至少也算中牛把,气得不行。 还是有
钱就niu b
m*0
71 楼
我认识两非中国faculty,第三年,同样没paper没钱,过得很滋润,一点都不担心。有
senior faculty邀请他们一起写funding proposal,居然被他们锯掉了,原因是他们觉
得senior faculty给他们写信的口气不够诚恳。我都不知道他们怎么想的。
senior faculty邀请他们一起写funding proposal,居然被他们锯掉了,原因是他们觉
得senior faculty给他们写信的口气不够诚恳。我都不知道他们怎么想的。
b*h
72 楼
呵呵,别说一年同时招两个中国AP的了,还有一个系一个方向两年内前后脚招了4个的
呢。。。
呢。。。
a*e
75 楼
非常同意你的见解。
偶很多朋友也是同样认为,不管文科理科,谈牛制度造就了一大批滥人和投机取巧者。
没有太牛,大家都是凭真本事吃饭,合同到期滚蛋,这才有利于提高大学的质量。现在
的谈牛制度,很多无才无德的骗子混混们坐在那里,它们可以利用权力作及其下流劣鄙
的事情,而真相做学问的学者们,却与学术研究教学无缘。
靠,打倒谈牛制度,哈哈
【在 k*****r 的大作中提到】
: 现在大学就是资本主义妓院经济的一部分。妓女卖淫6年,要拿到一定的嫖资总额,才
: 能转成妈妈桑。
: 加上现在这个job market, 外面排队想来卖淫的fresh phd多的是了。 爱干不干,不干
: 滚蛋。
: 其实从现在工科的状态来看,一个系最好80%都是没tenure的AP,才是最efficient的。
偶很多朋友也是同样认为,不管文科理科,谈牛制度造就了一大批滥人和投机取巧者。
没有太牛,大家都是凭真本事吃饭,合同到期滚蛋,这才有利于提高大学的质量。现在
的谈牛制度,很多无才无德的骗子混混们坐在那里,它们可以利用权力作及其下流劣鄙
的事情,而真相做学问的学者们,却与学术研究教学无缘。
靠,打倒谈牛制度,哈哈
【在 k*****r 的大作中提到】
: 现在大学就是资本主义妓院经济的一部分。妓女卖淫6年,要拿到一定的嫖资总额,才
: 能转成妈妈桑。
: 加上现在这个job market, 外面排队想来卖淫的fresh phd多的是了。 爱干不干,不干
: 滚蛋。
: 其实从现在工科的状态来看,一个系最好80%都是没tenure的AP,才是最efficient的。
y*l
78 楼
good attitude.
other,
But
new
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: Many many years ago, a US News third tier university in Florida hired two
: Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
: time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
: me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
: especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
: luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
: position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
other,
But
new
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: Many many years ago, a US News third tier university in Florida hired two
: Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
: time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
: me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
: especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
: luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
: position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
b*h
80 楼
最好的attitude,就是此处不留爷,自有留爷处。
k*r
82 楼
it is totally determined by the supply-demand in the faculty job market.
if they deny you tenure, and their loss can be easily made up from hiring
fresh, younger, or more energetic guys, then they will prob do it.
the percentage of faculty with tenure or on tenure track has significantly
decreased over the last decade. i posted a figure before.
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: What if I'm already in a tier-3/4 Univ.?
:
: the
if they deny you tenure, and their loss can be easily made up from hiring
fresh, younger, or more energetic guys, then they will prob do it.
the percentage of faculty with tenure or on tenure track has significantly
decreased over the last decade. i posted a figure before.
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: What if I'm already in a tier-3/4 Univ.?
:
: the
x*b
84 楼
Right. It does not make much sense to compare funding in different fields.
Even in the same department, some professors have lots of funding while
others donot. However, this does not indicate that the professors with a
lot of funding do better research than those with less funding. How much
funding you can get really has a lot do with your research subjects.
【在 m*****h 的大作中提到】
: 不是说的是engineering领域吗?
Even in the same department, some professors have lots of funding while
others donot. However, this does not indicate that the professors with a
lot of funding do better research than those with less funding. How much
funding you can get really has a lot do with your research subjects.
【在 m*****h 的大作中提到】
: 不是说的是engineering领域吗?
p*d
85 楼
嗯, 举个例子, 有些 UCLA 医学院教授的自己一个人的current support比
princeton数学系整个系,10年加一起还多。都按钱算,后者早该解散了。
【在 x*b 的大作中提到】
: Right. It does not make much sense to compare funding in different fields.
: Even in the same department, some professors have lots of funding while
: others donot. However, this does not indicate that the professors with a
: lot of funding do better research than those with less funding. How much
: funding you can get really has a lot do with your research subjects.
princeton数学系整个系,10年加一起还多。都按钱算,后者早该解散了。
【在 x*b 的大作中提到】
: Right. It does not make much sense to compare funding in different fields.
: Even in the same department, some professors have lots of funding while
: others donot. However, this does not indicate that the professors with a
: lot of funding do better research than those with less funding. How much
: funding you can get really has a lot do with your research subjects.
N*T
86 楼
方向不同。跟bio不沾边的,压根都不清楚R1是什么,更别提几个M了。我跟几个学校的
系主任谈过tenure requirement,传统工程方向,都说2 Paper/yr, $500k funding是
基本要求。而且钱也不是绝对的。有的人一个项目就是1M,但是如果只有这一个项目的
话是拿不到tenure的。相反,有人好几个项目加起来还不到1M,但是来自不同的
funding sources,就更有优势。
【在 f****b 的大作中提到】
: 300-500K in 6 years 能在绝大多数学校TENURE? 不可能吧,很多一流甚至二流没有两
: 个R01 (3-4M)别想TENURE。
: 还有说6年如果什么GRANT都拿不到怎么办?看什么FIELD, 如果在医学院,根本不可能
: 呆下去。。。
系主任谈过tenure requirement,传统工程方向,都说2 Paper/yr, $500k funding是
基本要求。而且钱也不是绝对的。有的人一个项目就是1M,但是如果只有这一个项目的
话是拿不到tenure的。相反,有人好几个项目加起来还不到1M,但是来自不同的
funding sources,就更有优势。
【在 f****b 的大作中提到】
: 300-500K in 6 years 能在绝大多数学校TENURE? 不可能吧,很多一流甚至二流没有两
: 个R01 (3-4M)别想TENURE。
: 还有说6年如果什么GRANT都拿不到怎么办?看什么FIELD, 如果在医学院,根本不可能
: 呆下去。。。
E*s
92 楼
很多实力不是唯一的因素。
机遇有些时候比实力更加重要。
机遇有些时候比实力更加重要。
l*z
93 楼
In my dept a 白人 AP didn’t make it, though the department fully supported
him. He is a very nice person and did good teaching and service. I hear the
complaints are money and papers.
him. He is a very nice person and did good teaching and service. I hear the
complaints are money and papers.
a*e
94 楼
good teaching and service 比较容易,但是money and papers不是那么容易。
偶觉得 very nice 的人通常不是很会人情世故,所以拿谈牛不那么顺。反之,无论缺
什么,都照样谈牛。
nice 与否,任性善良与否,跟种族无关。
supported
the
【在 l**z 的大作中提到】
: In my dept a 白人 AP didn’t make it, though the department fully supported
: him. He is a very nice person and did good teaching and service. I hear the
: complaints are money and papers.
偶觉得 very nice 的人通常不是很会人情世故,所以拿谈牛不那么顺。反之,无论缺
什么,都照样谈牛。
nice 与否,任性善良与否,跟种族无关。
supported
the
【在 l**z 的大作中提到】
: In my dept a 白人 AP didn’t make it, though the department fully supported
: him. He is a very nice person and did good teaching and service. I hear the
: complaints are money and papers.
U*e
100 楼
re.
it is the real life which reveals true spirit.
other,
But
new
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: Many many years ago, a US News third tier university in Florida hired two
: Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
: time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
: me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
: especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
: luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
: position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
it is the real life which reveals true spirit.
other,
But
new
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】
: Many many years ago, a US News third tier university in Florida hired two
: Chinese assistant professors (same subject, same department) at the same
: time. One prospered in that enviroment and got tenure in 6 years. The other,
: me of course,staggered in the number of publications. One hard paper
: especially cost me two years to publish. I had to flee in the 7th year. But
: luckily, I was in a higher demand and shorter supply area and I found a new
: position in a similar level university. But slowly my p
x*b
107 楼
Check out this guy. He was denied tenure by MIT and then became full
professor right after joining Georgia Tech.
http://www.scs.gatech.edu/people/santosh-vempala
【在 k*****r 的大作中提到】
: 有成功例子? in recent years ?
: 我也想down grade去teaching school,了次残生。
professor right after joining Georgia Tech.
http://www.scs.gatech.edu/people/santosh-vempala
【在 k*****r 的大作中提到】
: 有成功例子? in recent years ?
: 我也想down grade去teaching school,了次残生。
k*r
108 楼
这些都是牛人。在MIT被deny tenure, 很难说是JB的问题还是普湿的问题。
广大average能力的发考题,拿不到/够钱,咋办?
【在 x*b 的大作中提到】
: Check out this guy. He was denied tenure by MIT and then became full
: professor right after joining Georgia Tech.
: http://www.scs.gatech.edu/people/santosh-vempala
广大average能力的发考题,拿不到/够钱,咋办?
【在 x*b 的大作中提到】
: Check out this guy. He was denied tenure by MIT and then became full
: professor right after joining Georgia Tech.
: http://www.scs.gatech.edu/people/santosh-vempala
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