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Assault-Style Weapons In The Civilian Market
As the country reels after Friday's massacre in Newtown, Conn., the question
of how assault rifles like the one used at Sandy Hook Elementary School
entered the civilian market is front and center.
The semi-automatic weapon found at the site where Adam Lanza shot to death
20 children and six adults, for example, is a variant of a type of gun
developed for troops during Vietnam.
"It is one of a variety of assault rifles that militaries of the world
developed," Tom Diaz, a policy analyst for the Violence Policy Center, tells
Fresh Air's Terry Gross, "when they realized that most soldiers do not,
when they're engaged in combat ... take accurate aim, do not fire at long
distances, but rather just spray bullets in the general direction of the
enemy at short to medium range. ... [S]oldiers are not marksmen, and they
tend to just fire in bursts at ambiguous targets and, in fact, most
battlefield injuries are the result of just being where the bullet is and
not someone actually aiming at you."
Diaz — who is also the author of the forthcoming book The Last Gun, about
changes in the gun industry and gun violence — and his colleagues have
conducted extensive research on gun violence in the United States and have
written reports on assault weapons, as well as on the National Rifle
Association and the corporations that fund it. What gun manufacturers have
done to rejuvenate their markets, Diaz tells Fresh Air's Terry Gross, is to
emphasize military-derived semi-automatic guns and, in marketing, "appeal to
the inner soldier, the insurrectionist feelings and high-tech desires to
market these military-style guns."
The only difference, Diaz says, between the semi-automatic rifles sold on
the civilian market and those issued to soldiers "is that the purely
military rifle is capable of firing what's called 'fully automatic fire,' "
meaning the gun will continue to fire until it expends all of the ammunition
in its magazine.
When it comes to potential bills that could be introduced in Congress in the
wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, Diaz says it's crucial
to focus on this question of magazine capacity. Lawmakers must ask, Diaz
says, "What actually are the design features? What are the real functions of
assault weapons? ... Can you put a high-capacity magazine into this gun
that will hold 20, 40, 60, 100, 110 rounds of ammunition? And, if that's
true, then it's an assault rifle and we will not allow their manufacture or
import."
Interview Highlights
On the Bushmaster rifle found at Sandy Hook Elementary
"[It's] a variant of a type of gun called the AR-15 ... which was designed
and developed for military use roughly during the Vietnam War period. It is
one of a variety of assault rifles that militaries of the world developed
when they realized that most soldiers do not — when they're engaged in
combat — do not take accurate aim, do not fire at long distances, but
rather just spray bullets in the general direction of the enemy at short to
medium range. When the military accepted this as a fact — that soldiers are
not marksmen, and they tend to just fire in bursts at ambiguous targets,
and in fact most battlefield injuries are the result of just being where the
bullet is and not someone actually aiming at you — the militaries of the
world said, 'OK, we need a type of gun to give our soldiers that will do
just that.' ... This was the genesis of the assault rifle. The first one was
developed by the Germans in 1944. It was called the StG-44. The Soviet army
quickly ... made a design similar to it, which is called the AK-47,
probably the most widely used rifle in the world."
On how the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban defined a semi-automatic weapon
"It defined a semi-automatic assault weapon in terms of a gun that had at
least two of certain features. One of them was the actual crucial feature,
which is the ability to take a high capacity magazine. ... The others were .
.. almost decorative features that were on these guns, such as a bayonet
mount, which means you could put a bayonet on the gun; a thing called a ...
flash hider, which means that the flash from the barrel of the gun is less
observable; a stock in the rear that could be extended or shortened. ... The
requirement that you have at least two of those meant that gun manufactures
could say, 'Aha, we can keep the ability to take the high capacity magazine
and just knock off the rest of these bells and whistles [and] we still have
essentially the same gun, ... but it's now federally legal. And that's what
Bushmaster figured out. They actually rose to prominence after the 1994
semi-automatic assault weapons ban because they took off all the truly
irrelevant bells and whistles and just produced a basic gun."
On Beretta's marketing strategy for a semi-automatic pistol that entered
civilian market
"Prior to the early- to mid-1980s, most handguns in the United States,
including those used by law enforcement officers, were the old-fashioned
revolver, which had a capacity of about six rounds — relatively cumbersome.
In the 1980s, Beretta, an Italian company, decided to compete to replace
the U.S. military standard sidearm. Dating back to 1911, there was a gun
known as the Colt Model 1911, .45 caliber, semi-automatic pistol, and it was
thought to be antiquated, not suitable for the modern battlefield.
"So there was a competition and Beretta actually won the competition for its
.9 millimeter, high-capacity semi-automatic pistol. Beretta executives
later in interviews on public record which we've documented ... said, 'Look,
our strategy was this: ... What we want to do is get the cache of military
sales so that we can then turn to the much bigger, much more profitable
American civilian market and make a lot more money doing that.' And that's
precisely what they did. Beretta's advertising [strategy] to this day ... is
, 'This is a gun that we sell to the military. It's made for them but you
can use it.' "
On the FN 5.7, a gun designed for counterterrorism purposes that has entered
the civilian market
"It was specifically designed for use by counterterrorism teams because it
fires a very small but very high-velocity bullet that will penetrate body
armor — what people call ballistic vests or bullet-proof vests. When FN
first manufactured this gun, they recognized how dangerous it would be on a
civilian market and they claimed they would never sell it to civilians, that
it would only be for police and counterterrorism units. In fact, it's
become a very popular gun on the American civilian market and is exported to
Mexico, where it's called the mata policia, or police killer, cop killer."
On why he — himself a former NRA member and gun owner — switched sides on
the debate
"When I worked for Congressman [Chuck] Schumer, who was then chairman of the
House crime subcommittee — about 1993, 1994 — I inherited the gun
legislation account. And one of the things I had to do was generate a
hearing on, we called it 'Kids and Guns,' and, in the course of preparing a
hearing, staff members such as I was [would] actually go and interview the
witnesses. ... I talked to some of these children and I realized that their
world had nothing whatever to do with this kind of mythical world of the
National Rifle Association, and so that set me to thinking, and ... I
realized that I was living, frankly, in a dream world. I mean, I was living
in the world of when I was a Boy Scout."
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a*a
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Listened too. The conclusion for gun control is so obvious to anyone who
cares to listen.

question

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: npr fresh air,今晚回家路上听到的,简明扼要,感兴趣的童鞋不妨了解一下。
: ---------------------------
: Assault-Style Weapons In The Civilian Market
: As the country reels after Friday's massacre in Newtown, Conn., the question
: of how assault rifles like the one used at Sandy Hook Elementary School
: entered the civilian market is front and center.
: The semi-automatic weapon found at the site where Adam Lanza shot to death
: 20 children and six adults, for example, is a variant of a type of gun
: developed for troops during Vietnam.

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b*s
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想起早年的Chicago Piano了,军队不要,黑帮大爱啊。结果成了黑帮的制式武器,军
队反而不料他……

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【在 r****e 的大作中提到】
: http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&isli
: npr fresh air,今晚回家路上听到的,简明扼要,感兴趣的童鞋不妨了解一下。
: ---------------------------
: Assault-Style Weapons In The Civilian Market
: As the country reels after Friday's massacre in Newtown, Conn., the question
: of how assault rifles like the one used at Sandy Hook Elementary School
: entered the civilian market is front and center.
: The semi-automatic weapon found at the site where Adam Lanza shot to death
: 20 children and six adults, for example, is a variant of a type of gun
: developed for troops during Vietnam.

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d*e
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【在 r****e 的大作中提到】
: http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&isli
: npr fresh air,今晚回家路上听到的,简明扼要,感兴趣的童鞋不妨了解一下。
: ---------------------------
: Assault-Style Weapons In The Civilian Market
: As the country reels after Friday's massacre in Newtown, Conn., the question
: of how assault rifles like the one used at Sandy Hook Elementary School
: entered the civilian market is front and center.
: The semi-automatic weapon found at the site where Adam Lanza shot to death
: 20 children and six adults, for example, is a variant of a type of gun
: developed for troops during Vietnam.

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b*s
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就跟为什么要用最新的手机,最新的计算机,最近最fancy的汽车一样的道理。
你还不明白为什么有人在自家养狮子老虎鳄鱼呢……

好长。是不是基本上说该禁Assault-Style Weapons?
一直不明白老百姓玩枪的为什么非要Assault-Style Weapons。
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d*e
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【在 b*s 的大作中提到】
: 就跟为什么要用最新的手机,最新的计算机,最近最fancy的汽车一样的道理。
: 你还不明白为什么有人在自家养狮子老虎鳄鱼呢……
:
: 好长。是不是基本上说该禁Assault-Style Weapons?
: 一直不明白老百姓玩枪的为什么非要Assault-Style Weapons。
: question

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b*s
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这是美国,呵呵。你不高兴可以去呼吁立法,但是这是他的自由。你可以去sue他,如
果你是他的邻居,如果能够找到理由sue成,兴许能赢

我是不明白为什么有人在自家养狮子老虎鳄鱼。 我觉得那些人这样的obsession对
邻居是生存威胁。

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d*e
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【在 b*s 的大作中提到】
: 这是美国,呵呵。你不高兴可以去呼吁立法,但是这是他的自由。你可以去sue他,如
: 果你是他的邻居,如果能够找到理由sue成,兴许能赢
:
: 我是不明白为什么有人在自家养狮子老虎鳄鱼。 我觉得那些人这样的obsession对
: 邻居是生存威胁。

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g*y
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如果可能,我也想养老虎,梦想啊。。。

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m*e
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ha, i have a photo holding little tiger.

【在 g***y 的大作中提到】
: 如果可能,我也想养老虎,梦想啊。。。
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b*s
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邻居好坏,这个是不好掌握的吧。除非你有钱,把附近的土地都买下来
有钱基本上什么都可以搞定。当然,在中国,有钱还不完全行,还要把官员搞定……

知道,就是好邻居不得不把有限的时间消耗这种烂事上,太不公平了。好在这样的人
不算多数。养虎养狮子的事是不是德州多点?
如果你是他的邻居,如果能够找到理由sue成,兴许能赢

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b*s
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买个老虎不难吧。在北京买块地用来养老虎难些……

如果可能,我也想养老虎,梦想啊。。。

【在 g***y 的大作中提到】
: 如果可能,我也想养老虎,梦想啊。。。
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d*e
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【在 g***y 的大作中提到】
: 如果可能,我也想养老虎,梦想啊。。。
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wh
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不好玩啊,它听话就没有虎气,不听话就危险,哈哈。

【在 g***y 的大作中提到】
: 如果可能,我也想养老虎,梦想啊。。。
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wh
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大了放生,跟那头伦敦的狮子似的。不过放生也很复杂,得慢慢引导它适应野生生活。
引导不好的,人和狮子都出事。有一次碰到一个出租司机愤愤地说佛州养boa多,长大
没法养了就放生,大蟒蛇很危害人。说not all animals are suitable to be pets.

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b*s
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人类圈养老虎不下几百年了,上千年可能都有……

养到一定年龄不好管理吧?狗太大太凶的都难管住。

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d*e
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【在 wh 的大作中提到】
: 不好玩啊,它听话就没有虎气,不听话就危险,哈哈。
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d*e
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【在 wh 的大作中提到】
: 大了放生,跟那头伦敦的狮子似的。不过放生也很复杂,得慢慢引导它适应野生生活。
: 引导不好的,人和狮子都出事。有一次碰到一个出租司机愤愤地说佛州养boa多,长大
: 没法养了就放生,大蟒蛇很危害人。说not all animals are suitable to be pets.

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z*i
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这不是common sense么?

【在 wh 的大作中提到】
: 大了放生,跟那头伦敦的狮子似的。不过放生也很复杂,得慢慢引导它适应野生生活。
: 引导不好的,人和狮子都出事。有一次碰到一个出租司机愤愤地说佛州养boa多,长大
: 没法养了就放生,大蟒蛇很危害人。说not all animals are suitable to be pets.

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z*i
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还没说康州那个养猩猩结果把朋友脸咬没了那个的。 。。。
很多事情,其实是个度。

pets.

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d*e
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【在 b*s 的大作中提到】
: 人类圈养老虎不下几百年了,上千年可能都有……
:
: 养到一定年龄不好管理吧?狗太大太凶的都难管住。

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b*s
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动物园养老虎很久了,有钱了,买几个动物园下来也不是难事哈……

就是,我和那个出租司机一个看法,不是所有的动物都能放自家养,搞不好害人害
己。
大没法养了就放生,大蟒蛇很危害人。说not all animals are suitable to be pets.

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b*s
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又是康州。有钱人多了真是没有办法啊……

还没说康州那个养猩猩结果把朋友脸咬没了那个的。 。。。
很多事情,其实是个度。
pets.

【在 z*i 的大作中提到】
: 还没说康州那个养猩猩结果把朋友脸咬没了那个的。 。。。
: 很多事情,其实是个度。
:
: pets.

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d*e
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【在 z*i 的大作中提到】
: 还没说康州那个养猩猩结果把朋友脸咬没了那个的。 。。。
: 很多事情,其实是个度。
:
: pets.

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d*e
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###此帖已应当事人要求删除###

【在 b*s 的大作中提到】
: 动物园养老虎很久了,有钱了,买几个动物园下来也不是难事哈……
:
: 就是,我和那个出租司机一个看法,不是所有的动物都能放自家养,搞不好害人害
: 己。
: 大没法养了就放生,大蟒蛇很危害人。说not all animals are suitable to be pets.

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b*s
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都是private ownership啊。一开始自己养,摊子大了就可以用专业方式养啊……

说的是一般情况下自家养,不是动物园。一般人自家养和有钱人买下动物园有专业护
理和保护措施的没法比哈~

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d*e
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【在 b*s 的大作中提到】
: 都是private ownership啊。一开始自己养,摊子大了就可以用专业方式养啊……
:
: 说的是一般情况下自家养,不是动物园。一般人自家养和有钱人买下动物园有专业护
: 理和保护措施的没法比哈~

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l*k
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美国商人,挣钱也该有个底线

question

【在 r****e 的大作中提到】
: http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&isli
: npr fresh air,今晚回家路上听到的,简明扼要,感兴趣的童鞋不妨了解一下。
: ---------------------------
: Assault-Style Weapons In The Civilian Market
: As the country reels after Friday's massacre in Newtown, Conn., the question
: of how assault rifles like the one used at Sandy Hook Elementary School
: entered the civilian market is front and center.
: The semi-automatic weapon found at the site where Adam Lanza shot to death
: 20 children and six adults, for example, is a variant of a type of gun
: developed for troops during Vietnam.

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d*e
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###此帖已应当事人要求删除###

【在 l******k 的大作中提到】
: 美国商人,挣钱也该有个底线
:
: question

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b*s
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军火商把持政局啊,艾森豪威尔都斗不过……

美国商人,挣钱也该有个底线
question

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: 美国商人,挣钱也该有个底线
:
: question

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b*s
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军工联合体,五十年代都坐大了,管理?自己管理自己?

贪得无厌啊,所以没有管理不行。

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d*e
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【在 b*s 的大作中提到】
: 军工联合体,五十年代都坐大了,管理?自己管理自己?
:
: 贪得无厌啊,所以没有管理不行。

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p*r
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法律也可以搞成他们欢迎的法律。
其实一个国家要靠谱,光有法律没用。

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b*s
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军工联合体控制了大局,法律还不是他们定的?NRA只是一个front……

法律啊

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d*e
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【在 p***r 的大作中提到】
: 法律也可以搞成他们欢迎的法律。
: 其实一个国家要靠谱,光有法律没用。

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wh
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是的话就不会有那么多人养危险性宠物了。那个a lion called christian的纪录片里
,60年代伦敦街头,貂皮大衣贵妇手牵小豹子逛街。harrods专门有个zoo department
卖宠物, 狮虎狼豹长颈鹿等什么都有,哈哈。

【在 z*i 的大作中提到】
: 这不是common sense么?
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wh
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我刚看了电影we bought a zoo!

pets.

【在 b*s 的大作中提到】
: 动物园养老虎很久了,有钱了,买几个动物园下来也不是难事哈……
:
: 就是,我和那个出租司机一个看法,不是所有的动物都能放自家养,搞不好害人害
: 己。
: 大没法养了就放生,大蟒蛇很危害人。说not all animals are suitable to be pets.

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b*s
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直到现在才有人提这个电影。Matt Damon不错哈……

我刚看了电影we bought a zoo!
pets.

【在 wh 的大作中提到】
: 我刚看了电影we bought a zoo!
:
: pets.

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z*i
39
现在不是就没有了么。

department

【在 wh 的大作中提到】
: 是的话就不会有那么多人养危险性宠物了。那个a lion called christian的纪录片里
: ,60年代伦敦街头,貂皮大衣贵妇手牵小豹子逛街。harrods专门有个zoo department
: 卖宠物, 狮虎狼豹长颈鹿等什么都有,哈哈。

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b*s
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现在养这些的多得是……

现在不是就没有了么。
department

【在 z*i 的大作中提到】
: 现在不是就没有了么。
:
: department

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p*r
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民主政治的前提是公民比较理性,媒体透明中立,选举成本足够低,一旦有疑问,公民
有简单的方法收回自己的委托权。这几点没有哪个国家做好了。

.

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b*s
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小国容易实行民主,大国太难了……

民主政治的前提是公民比较理性,媒体透明中立,选举成本足够低,一旦有疑问,公民
有简单的方法收回自己的委托权。这几点没有哪个国家做好了。
.

【在 p***r 的大作中提到】
: 民主政治的前提是公民比较理性,媒体透明中立,选举成本足够低,一旦有疑问,公民
: 有简单的方法收回自己的委托权。这几点没有哪个国家做好了。
:
: .

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s*n
43
人民有权利选择自己喜欢的生活,比如有的就喜欢玩枪,有的就喜欢养老虎,有的就喜
欢当奴隶或奴隶主,有的就喜欢饿肚皮造原子弹然后统一地球,只要出于人民自愿,投
票确定了,那就没问题。

【在 p***r 的大作中提到】
: 民主政治的前提是公民比较理性,媒体透明中立,选举成本足够低,一旦有疑问,公民
: 有简单的方法收回自己的委托权。这几点没有哪个国家做好了。
:
: .

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r*e
44
姐啊,这个题目现在基本无解。

【在 a********a 的大作中提到】
: Listened too. The conclusion for gun control is so obvious to anyone who
: cares to listen.
:
: question

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r*e
45
小鸡不撒尿,各有各的道儿。

【在 b*s 的大作中提到】
: 想起早年的Chicago Piano了,军队不要,黑帮大爱啊。结果成了黑帮的制式武器,军
: 队反而不料他……
:
: question

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r*e
46
一部分是心理问题,另一部分就如bos所说,跟那些苹果粉镜头粉差不多。

【在 d**e 的大作中提到】
: ###此帖已应当事人要求删除###
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r*e
47
你说这儿有大规模机械化肉牛肉猪肉鸡场,怎么没肉狗呢?

【在 b*s 的大作中提到】
: 都是private ownership啊。一开始自己养,摊子大了就可以用专业方式养啊……
:
: 说的是一般情况下自家养,不是动物园。一般人自家养和有钱人买下动物园有专业护
: 理和保护措施的没法比哈~

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r*e
48
nra今天的发布会说啥了?我没follow。

【在 b*s 的大作中提到】
: 军工联合体控制了大局,法律还不是他们定的?NRA只是一个front……
:
: 法律啊

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b*s
49
也没有鹿场啊。在国内吃过狗肉,说实话,不如羊肉好吃。
狗是肉食动物,是不是饲养起来比较贵?

你说这儿有大规模机械化肉牛肉猪肉鸡场,怎么没肉狗呢?

【在 r****e 的大作中提到】
: 你说这儿有大规模机械化肉牛肉猪肉鸡场,怎么没肉狗呢?
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r*e
50
他最近和michael douglas亲嘴来着。

【在 b*s 的大作中提到】
: 直到现在才有人提这个电影。Matt Damon不错哈……
:
: 我刚看了电影we bought a zoo!
: pets.

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b*s
51
N.R.A. Calls for Armed Guards in Schools to Deter Violence
又可以多卖些枪了哈……

nra今天的发布会说啥了?我没follow。

【在 r****e 的大作中提到】
: nra今天的发布会说啥了?我没follow。
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r*e
52
嗯,鹿都是有机鹿。上个月一同事休假,有急事找他,发一邮件,他倒是立刻就回了,
就几个字:i am in deer stand now。回头跟我说,鹿肝还是挺好吃的。
养狗成本大概比较高。

【在 b*s 的大作中提到】
: 也没有鹿场啊。在国内吃过狗肉,说实话,不如羊肉好吃。
: 狗是肉食动物,是不是饲养起来比较贵?
:
: 你说这儿有大规模机械化肉牛肉猪肉鸡场,怎么没肉狗呢?

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r*e
53
ft

【在 b*s 的大作中提到】
: N.R.A. Calls for Armed Guards in Schools to Deter Violence
: 又可以多卖些枪了哈……
:
: nra今天的发布会说啥了?我没follow。

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z*i
54
电子游戏躺枪了,今天。

【在 r****e 的大作中提到】
: nra今天的发布会说啥了?我没follow。
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b*s
55
有没有当年麦当娜和那谁的kiss火爆?

他最近和michael douglas亲嘴来着。

【在 r****e 的大作中提到】
: 他最近和michael douglas亲嘴来着。
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b*s
56
当年阿蒙森探险南极的时候,用狗拉雪橇,然后顺便吃狗肉……

嗯,鹿都是有机鹿。上个月一同事休假,有急事找他,发一邮件,他倒是立刻就回了,
就几个字:i am in deer stand now。回头跟我说,鹿肝还是挺好吃的。
养狗成本大概比较高。

【在 r****e 的大作中提到】
: 嗯,鹿都是有机鹿。上个月一同事休假,有急事找他,发一邮件,他倒是立刻就回了,
: 就几个字:i am in deer stand now。回头跟我说,鹿肝还是挺好吃的。
: 养狗成本大概比较高。

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b*s
57
军工联合体的力量看见了吧

ft

【在 r****e 的大作中提到】
: ft
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b*s
58
电子游戏没有后台,这次要当替罪羊了……

电子游戏躺枪了,今天。

【在 z*i 的大作中提到】
: 电子游戏躺枪了,今天。
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z*i
59
电子游戏产业的营业额已经超过电影+音乐的总和了。。。。

【在 b*s 的大作中提到】
: 电子游戏没有后台,这次要当替罪羊了……
:
: 电子游戏躺枪了,今天。

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r*e
60
电子游戏也确实不是什么好鸟儿。有天下班路上,广播里采访一很有名的游戏公司ceo
,是个印度人,他眉飞色舞地介绍产品,临了儿说,我希望全世界的孩子们都玩游戏,
不过我儿子除外。听得我真想大嘴巴抽他。

【在 z*i 的大作中提到】
: 电子游戏躺枪了,今天。
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r*e
61
我没看,好象是一电视剧里,小花知道要伤心了。。

【在 b*s 的大作中提到】
: 有没有当年麦当娜和那谁的kiss火爆?
:
: 他最近和michael douglas亲嘴来着。

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p*r
62
偶尔玩玩无伤大雅。

ceo

【在 r****e 的大作中提到】
: 电子游戏也确实不是什么好鸟儿。有天下班路上,广播里采访一很有名的游戏公司ceo
: ,是个印度人,他眉飞色舞地介绍产品,临了儿说,我希望全世界的孩子们都玩游戏,
: 不过我儿子除外。听得我真想大嘴巴抽他。

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z*i
63
没错,啥事儿都是有度就好。
喝水喝多了还能胀死呢。

【在 p***r 的大作中提到】
: 偶尔玩玩无伤大雅。
:
: ceo

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b*s
64
那也没用……

电子游戏产业的营业额已经超过电影+音乐的总和了。。。。

【在 z*i 的大作中提到】
: 电子游戏产业的营业额已经超过电影+音乐的总和了。。。。
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b*s
65
难道小花不是腐女之一?

我没看,好象是一电视剧里,小花知道要伤心了。。

【在 r****e 的大作中提到】
: 我没看,好象是一电视剧里,小花知道要伤心了。。
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b*k
66
啥?谁和谁亲了?

【在 r****e 的大作中提到】
: 我没看,好象是一电视剧里,小花知道要伤心了。。
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