d*0
2 楼
4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
Best 24-120 attempt yet, October 12, 2010
By Busy Executive (Long Island, NY) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Nikon 24-120mm f/4G ED VR AF-S NIKKOR Lens for Nikon
Digital SLR (Electronics)
Being a glutton for punishment, I've owned each incarnation of the 24-120.
Honestly, the original was about the worst Nikon lens I've ever owned...I
used to describe it as "how to turn several thousand dollars of camera gear
into a $200 point and shoot". It was that bad...poor contrast, distortion,
vignetting, slow focusing, etc. The only really bad Nikon lens I've ever
owned. Thank goodness for eBay, and my condolences to whoever is using that
lens today.
Then came the second generation 24-120. Not ready to give up the dream of
having a 5x zoom for my (then) new D3, I took the plunge a second time.
The second-generation 24-120 was better than the original, but still not the
sharpest tool in the shed. I'm lucky enough to own the "magic quartet" of
Nikon zooms (14-24, 24-70, 70-200, 200-400) but I get lazy like everyone
else and would like to have a single walk-around lens. Still, the difference
in image quality was just too noticeable when I wimped out and took the 24-
120 instead of the "real lenses". I'd go out with the 24-120 on my D3 and
get some shots that would have been keepers with (say) the 24-70, but ended
up disappointing with the 24-120. On my DX camera, I came to like the 16-85
- the same 5x zoom range as the 24-120, but with much better image quality.
Except maybe in very low light, I actually got better results with the D300
and the 16-85, versus the D3 and 24-120. I tried to convince myself
otherwise, but pretty soon the 24-120 was mostly sitting home gathering dust
. The second-generation 24-120 eventually landed on eBay, too.
Well, I guess I never learn...still wanting that 5x zoom for my FX camera, I
took the plunge and bought the latest 24-120 f/4. I guess I'm a hopeless
optimist, but part of me expected to be disappointed once again. Still,
instead of disappointment, so far, I'm reasonably impressed with it. Really.
In a nutshell, this is a very different lens than either of the earlier 24-
120 products. It handles differently, it's constructed more ruggedly, and it
's faster all the way around. The best way to describe it is to say that it'
s very similar to the 16-85 in terms of image quality, but scaled up for an
FX body. That is to say, it's sharp, offers good contrast and color, and not
so much distortion that you can't correct it in post processing.
To be clear, the long end is a bit soft wide open, but entirely acceptable
at f/8 or so. I'm finding the short end very sharp at 24mm, but with some
noticeable distortion (that can be easily fixed in Capture NX2 or Photoshop)
. Color and contrast are very good, usually giving that "pop" you get with
good pro-grade lenses, and for a complex lens, there's relatively little
flare. The VR system, as usual for Nikon, works unobtrusively and very
effectively. And it's that much better on a DX body - most likely
outperforming the 16-85 in overall image quality (and that's saying
something). Though a slight step down from the best lenses, construction
quality seems very good, and the lens seems to handle effortlessly on my
bulky D3 as well as on my smaller D300.
Make no mistake, I'd never give up my 24-70 for one of the new 24-120 lenses
. In addition to that extra stop (f/2.8 vs. f/4), the 24-70 is one of the
world's best in its range...I feel comfortable stacking it up against
anything, even those exotic Leica or Carl-Zeiss primes. The 24-120 is "good
enough", but you marvel more at the way Nikon made all the design trade-offs
, rather than feeling that you have a lens that's about no-compromise
absolute top image quality. Still, the 24-120 is finally at a stage where
you can carry it around on your FX camera and have no regrets.
Best 24-120 attempt yet, October 12, 2010
By Busy Executive (Long Island, NY) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Nikon 24-120mm f/4G ED VR AF-S NIKKOR Lens for Nikon
Digital SLR (Electronics)
Being a glutton for punishment, I've owned each incarnation of the 24-120.
Honestly, the original was about the worst Nikon lens I've ever owned...I
used to describe it as "how to turn several thousand dollars of camera gear
into a $200 point and shoot". It was that bad...poor contrast, distortion,
vignetting, slow focusing, etc. The only really bad Nikon lens I've ever
owned. Thank goodness for eBay, and my condolences to whoever is using that
lens today.
Then came the second generation 24-120. Not ready to give up the dream of
having a 5x zoom for my (then) new D3, I took the plunge a second time.
The second-generation 24-120 was better than the original, but still not the
sharpest tool in the shed. I'm lucky enough to own the "magic quartet" of
Nikon zooms (14-24, 24-70, 70-200, 200-400) but I get lazy like everyone
else and would like to have a single walk-around lens. Still, the difference
in image quality was just too noticeable when I wimped out and took the 24-
120 instead of the "real lenses". I'd go out with the 24-120 on my D3 and
get some shots that would have been keepers with (say) the 24-70, but ended
up disappointing with the 24-120. On my DX camera, I came to like the 16-85
- the same 5x zoom range as the 24-120, but with much better image quality.
Except maybe in very low light, I actually got better results with the D300
and the 16-85, versus the D3 and 24-120. I tried to convince myself
otherwise, but pretty soon the 24-120 was mostly sitting home gathering dust
. The second-generation 24-120 eventually landed on eBay, too.
Well, I guess I never learn...still wanting that 5x zoom for my FX camera, I
took the plunge and bought the latest 24-120 f/4. I guess I'm a hopeless
optimist, but part of me expected to be disappointed once again. Still,
instead of disappointment, so far, I'm reasonably impressed with it. Really.
In a nutshell, this is a very different lens than either of the earlier 24-
120 products. It handles differently, it's constructed more ruggedly, and it
's faster all the way around. The best way to describe it is to say that it'
s very similar to the 16-85 in terms of image quality, but scaled up for an
FX body. That is to say, it's sharp, offers good contrast and color, and not
so much distortion that you can't correct it in post processing.
To be clear, the long end is a bit soft wide open, but entirely acceptable
at f/8 or so. I'm finding the short end very sharp at 24mm, but with some
noticeable distortion (that can be easily fixed in Capture NX2 or Photoshop)
. Color and contrast are very good, usually giving that "pop" you get with
good pro-grade lenses, and for a complex lens, there's relatively little
flare. The VR system, as usual for Nikon, works unobtrusively and very
effectively. And it's that much better on a DX body - most likely
outperforming the 16-85 in overall image quality (and that's saying
something). Though a slight step down from the best lenses, construction
quality seems very good, and the lens seems to handle effortlessly on my
bulky D3 as well as on my smaller D300.
Make no mistake, I'd never give up my 24-70 for one of the new 24-120 lenses
. In addition to that extra stop (f/2.8 vs. f/4), the 24-70 is one of the
world's best in its range...I feel comfortable stacking it up against
anything, even those exotic Leica or Carl-Zeiss primes. The 24-120 is "good
enough", but you marvel more at the way Nikon made all the design trade-offs
, rather than feeling that you have a lens that's about no-compromise
absolute top image quality. Still, the 24-120 is finally at a stage where
you can carry it around on your FX camera and have no regrets.
a*y
3 楼
发个包子庆贺？？？
x*k
4 楼
不知道35/1.4怎么样，看样张很一般，犹豫要不要入啊
gear
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
: Best 24-120 attempt yet, October 12, 2010
: By Busy Executive (Long Island, NY) - See all my reviews
:
: This review is from: Nikon 24-120mm f/4G ED VR AF-S NIKKOR Lens for Nikon
: Digital SLR (Electronics)
: Being a glutton for punishment, I've owned each incarnation of the 24-120.
: Honestly, the original was about the worst Nikon lens I've ever owned...I
: used to describe it as "how to turn several thousand dollars of camera gear
: into a $200 point and shoot". It was that bad...poor contrast, distortion,
gear
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
: Best 24-120 attempt yet, October 12, 2010
: By Busy Executive (Long Island, NY) - See all my reviews
:
: This review is from: Nikon 24-120mm f/4G ED VR AF-S NIKKOR Lens for Nikon
: Digital SLR (Electronics)
: Being a glutton for punishment, I've owned each incarnation of the 24-120.
: Honestly, the original was about the worst Nikon lens I've ever owned...I
: used to describe it as "how to turn several thousand dollars of camera gear
: into a $200 point and shoot". It was that bad...poor contrast, distortion,
t*n
5 楼
re，最应该感谢的是巴马
【在 w********i 的大作中提到】
: 没想到真能进门.
【在 w********i 的大作中提到】
: 没想到真能进门.
b*s
6 楼
24-70还是N+的Holy Grail，不买这个头进N+意义不大。
gear
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
: Best 24-120 attempt yet, October 12, 2010
: By Busy Executive (Long Island, NY) - See all my reviews
:
: This review is from: Nikon 24-120mm f/4G ED VR AF-S NIKKOR Lens for Nikon
: Digital SLR (Electronics)
: Being a glutton for punishment, I've owned each incarnation of the 24-120.
: Honestly, the original was about the worst Nikon lens I've ever owned...I
: used to describe it as "how to turn several thousand dollars of camera gear
: into a $200 point and shoot". It was that bad...poor contrast, distortion,
gear
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
: Best 24-120 attempt yet, October 12, 2010
: By Busy Executive (Long Island, NY) - See all my reviews
:
: This review is from: Nikon 24-120mm f/4G ED VR AF-S NIKKOR Lens for Nikon
: Digital SLR (Electronics)
: Being a glutton for punishment, I've owned each incarnation of the 24-120.
: Honestly, the original was about the worst Nikon lens I've ever owned...I
: used to describe it as "how to turn several thousand dollars of camera gear
: into a $200 point and shoot". It was that bad...poor contrast, distortion,
w*l
7 楼
巴马是人民救星。
今天是9月9日，我怀疑巴马是主席转世。
今天是9月9日，我怀疑巴马是主席转世。
C*F
8 楼
还是等等再入吧。
你想想，67mm的口径。单反上，top的几个35/1.4，哪有这么小口径的
【在 x***k 的大作中提到】
: 不知道35/1.4怎么样，看样张很一般，犹豫要不要入啊
:
: gear
你想想，67mm的口径。单反上，top的几个35/1.4，哪有这么小口径的
【在 x***k 的大作中提到】
: 不知道35/1.4怎么样，看样张很一般，犹豫要不要入啊
:
: gear
l*4
9 楼
co-thx
G*Y
10 楼
这人是谁呀？
gear
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
: Best 24-120 attempt yet, October 12, 2010
: By Busy Executive (Long Island, NY) - See all my reviews
:
: This review is from: Nikon 24-120mm f/4G ED VR AF-S NIKKOR Lens for Nikon
: Digital SLR (Electronics)
: Being a glutton for punishment, I've owned each incarnation of the 24-120.
: Honestly, the original was about the worst Nikon lens I've ever owned...I
: used to describe it as "how to turn several thousand dollars of camera gear
: into a $200 point and shoot". It was that bad...poor contrast, distortion,
gear
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
: Best 24-120 attempt yet, October 12, 2010
: By Busy Executive (Long Island, NY) - See all my reviews
:
: This review is from: Nikon 24-120mm f/4G ED VR AF-S NIKKOR Lens for Nikon
: Digital SLR (Electronics)
: Being a glutton for punishment, I've owned each incarnation of the 24-120.
: Honestly, the original was about the worst Nikon lens I've ever owned...I
: used to describe it as "how to turn several thousand dollars of camera gear
: into a $200 point and shoot". It was that bad...poor contrast, distortion,
p*d
11 楼
发巴马包子吧
【在 t********n 的大作中提到】
: re，最应该感谢的是巴马
【在 t********n 的大作中提到】
: re，最应该感谢的是巴马
q*z
12 楼
sony的最小呀
【在 C*F 的大作中提到】
: 还是等等再入吧。
: 你想想，67mm的口径。单反上，top的几个35/1.4，哪有这么小口径的
【在 C*F 的大作中提到】
: 还是等等再入吧。
: 你想想，67mm的口径。单反上，top的几个35/1.4，哪有这么小口径的
O*y
13 楼
谁能讲解一下，为什么谢奥巴马？
b*s
14 楼
小不是抗眩光好吗？
【在 C*F 的大作中提到】
: 还是等等再入吧。
: 你想想，67mm的口径。单反上，top的几个35/1.4，哪有这么小口径的
【在 C*F 的大作中提到】
: 还是等等再入吧。
: 你想想，67mm的口径。单反上，top的几个35/1.4，哪有这么小口径的
F*r
15 楼
确实，奥巴马立功了。
没想到真能进门.
【在 w********i 的大作中提到】
: 没想到真能进门.
没想到真能进门.
【在 w********i 的大作中提到】
: 没想到真能进门.
c*5
16 楼
Contax is also 67mm
【在 C*F 的大作中提到】
: 还是等等再入吧。
: 你想想，67mm的口径。单反上，top的几个35/1.4，哪有这么小口径的
【在 C*F 的大作中提到】
: 还是等等再入吧。
: 你想想，67mm的口径。单反上，top的几个35/1.4，哪有这么小口径的
o*0
17 楼
o8行政令带来的新变化，楼主也是O8EA的乐观支持者，求仁得仁了。
x*c
18 楼
有24-70G在撑门面，标准高了，要求高了，24-120 f4出不了头也不奇怪.
旅游头一个，有啥好有求的，跟24-105一样，轻防抖就行了，其他的别想太多。
旅游头一个，有啥好有求的，跟24-105一样，轻防抖就行了，其他的别想太多。
O*y
19 楼
原来是这样啊！
【在 o********0 的大作中提到】
: o8行政令带来的新变化，楼主也是O8EA的乐观支持者，求仁得仁了。
【在 o********0 的大作中提到】
: o8行政令带来的新变化，楼主也是O8EA的乐观支持者，求仁得仁了。
c*e
20 楼
前一段时间回国带了D700+2470， 基本没有再想念过其它镜头
【在 x****c 的大作中提到】
: 有24-70G在撑门面，标准高了，要求高了，24-120 f4出不了头也不奇怪.
: 旅游头一个，有啥好有求的，跟24-105一样，轻防抖就行了，其他的别想太多。
【在 x****c 的大作中提到】
: 有24-70G在撑门面，标准高了，要求高了，24-120 f4出不了头也不奇怪.
: 旅游头一个，有啥好有求的，跟24-105一样，轻防抖就行了，其他的别想太多。
C*F
21 楼
新的ZF可是72mm的。
【在 c******5 的大作中提到】
: Contax is also 67mm
【在 c******5 的大作中提到】
: Contax is also 67mm
h*g
22 楼
没有掉屁股？
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: 前一段时间回国带了D700+2470， 基本没有再想念过其它镜头
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: 前一段时间回国带了D700+2470， 基本没有再想念过其它镜头
c*e
23 楼
这是俺的第N支24-70了， 还没见过掉的。 即使掉， 如果是我自己摔掉的也认了。 镜
头又不是摔着玩的， 呵呵
【在 h*******g 的大作中提到】
: 没有掉屁股？
头又不是摔着玩的， 呵呵
【在 h*******g 的大作中提到】
: 没有掉屁股？
P*L
24 楼
没啥，比 24-105L 好就行了。
N+ 性价比最高的全幅旅游头还是 28-300 啊。
gear
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
: Best 24-120 attempt yet, October 12, 2010
: By Busy Executive (Long Island, NY) - See all my reviews
:
: This review is from: Nikon 24-120mm f/4G ED VR AF-S NIKKOR Lens for Nikon
: Digital SLR (Electronics)
: Being a glutton for punishment, I've owned each incarnation of the 24-120.
: Honestly, the original was about the worst Nikon lens I've ever owned...I
: used to describe it as "how to turn several thousand dollars of camera gear
: into a $200 point and shoot". It was that bad...poor contrast, distortion,
N+ 性价比最高的全幅旅游头还是 28-300 啊。
gear
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
: Best 24-120 attempt yet, October 12, 2010
: By Busy Executive (Long Island, NY) - See all my reviews
:
: This review is from: Nikon 24-120mm f/4G ED VR AF-S NIKKOR Lens for Nikon
: Digital SLR (Electronics)
: Being a glutton for punishment, I've owned each incarnation of the 24-120.
: Honestly, the original was about the worst Nikon lens I've ever owned...I
: used to describe it as "how to turn several thousand dollars of camera gear
: into a $200 point and shoot". It was that bad...poor contrast, distortion,
s*g
25 楼
估计你就在城里面转悠了，你要是去个什么拉萨雪山内蒙草原等相当于国家唉公园的地
方，估计你的24-70就废柴了
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: 前一段时间回国带了D700+2470， 基本没有再想念过其它镜头
方，估计你的24-70就废柴了
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: 前一段时间回国带了D700+2470， 基本没有再想念过其它镜头
z*6
26 楼
为什么？
【在 s******g 的大作中提到】
: 估计你就在城里面转悠了，你要是去个什么拉萨雪山内蒙草原等相当于国家唉公园的地
: 方，估计你的24-70就废柴了
【在 s******g 的大作中提到】
: 估计你就在城里面转悠了，你要是去个什么拉萨雪山内蒙草原等相当于国家唉公园的地
: 方，估计你的24-70就废柴了
N*D
27 楼
典型的烧器材的，显摆自己用过尼康的好镜头，废话，多那么多钱，要是和便宜的区别
不大，谁去买？
再说，这个24-120有VR,需要的时候比24-70要强
gear
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
: Best 24-120 attempt yet, October 12, 2010
: By Busy Executive (Long Island, NY) - See all my reviews
:
: This review is from: Nikon 24-120mm f/4G ED VR AF-S NIKKOR Lens for Nikon
: Digital SLR (Electronics)
: Being a glutton for punishment, I've owned each incarnation of the 24-120.
: Honestly, the original was about the worst Nikon lens I've ever owned...I
: used to describe it as "how to turn several thousand dollars of camera gear
: into a $200 point and shoot". It was that bad...poor contrast, distortion,
不大，谁去买？
再说，这个24-120有VR,需要的时候比24-70要强
gear
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
: Best 24-120 attempt yet, October 12, 2010
: By Busy Executive (Long Island, NY) - See all my reviews
:
: This review is from: Nikon 24-120mm f/4G ED VR AF-S NIKKOR Lens for Nikon
: Digital SLR (Electronics)
: Being a glutton for punishment, I've owned each incarnation of the 24-120.
: Honestly, the original was about the worst Nikon lens I've ever owned...I
: used to describe it as "how to turn several thousand dollars of camera gear
: into a $200 point and shoot". It was that bad...poor contrast, distortion,
N*D
28 楼
镜头不费，脖子也差不多了
【在 s******g 的大作中提到】
: 估计你就在城里面转悠了，你要是去个什么拉萨雪山内蒙草原等相当于国家唉公园的地
: 方，估计你的24-70就废柴了
【在 s******g 的大作中提到】
: 估计你就在城里面转悠了，你要是去个什么拉萨雪山内蒙草原等相当于国家唉公园的地
: 方，估计你的24-70就废柴了
w*e
29 楼
痛恨佳能没有这么一个800g 的全副 28-300
【在 P*******L 的大作中提到】
: 没啥，比 24-105L 好就行了。
: N+ 性价比最高的全幅旅游头还是 28-300 啊。
:
: gear
【在 P*******L 的大作中提到】
: 没啥，比 24-105L 好就行了。
: N+ 性价比最高的全幅旅游头还是 28-300 啊。
:
: gear
s*g
30 楼
没长焦，没广角，就不要拍风景了
【在 z****6 的大作中提到】
: 为什么？
【在 z****6 的大作中提到】
: 为什么？
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