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t*m2002-04-07 08:04

1 楼

China holly VC buy out cdma dept of philips last year with
$20M (it wasnot a bad deal thinking TI spent $500M two years
ago on similar dept), but now they meet lots of problems. It
is not that easy, but TV stuff should be easier. Given time,
we will figure it out when we are more greedy.

l*e2002-04-07 08:04

2 楼

Apex is successful in this area. They don't have many technologies,
their customer service has very bad reputaion too. But they still
makes money out of it. Actually, this market has the potential to
become a even better business, Apex hasn't take full advantages out
of it yet.
Apex has already shown a successful business model. Now, the market
might be able to accomodate a second player. It may not be easy to
start such business when facing a giant first player in this market,
but every bu

【在 t*m 的大作中提到】

: China holly VC buy out cdma dept of philips last year with
: $20M (it wasnot a bad deal thinking TI spent $500M two years
: ago on similar dept), but now they meet lots of problems. It
: is not that easy, but TV stuff should be easier. Given time,
: we will figure it out when we are more greedy.

t*m2002-04-07 08:04

3 楼

In long run, I feel Apex not in good position. Once Chinese figure
it out like Hi Er, it is doom time for Apex. It is different from
Toshiba's laptop because Changhong does design/product except
marketing.
China based companies has been look around beyond China, that holly
VC for example. China national investing inc. has been to SV for
opportunity, I even heard rumor of Lian Xiang want to invest Palm.
Nowdays there are so many tech companies head to China while there
are so many chinese engine

【在 l**e 的大作中提到】

: Apex is successful in this area. They don't have many technologies,
: their customer service has very bad reputaion too. But they still
: makes money out of it. Actually, this market has the potential to
: become a even better business, Apex hasn't take full advantages out
: of it yet.
: Apex has already shown a successful business model. Now, the market
: might be able to accomodate a second player. It may not be easy to
: start such business when facing a giant first player in this market,
: but every bu

l*e2002-04-07 08:04

4 楼

For startup, it doesn't matter what is the long run. The current
opportunities are the most important.
In the long run, anything could happen. A startup doing similar
business like Apex could very possibly become a subsidiary of
Changhong. Because the expretise in import/export and retail area,
these type of companies could be useful to those big Chinese
enterprises, once those enterprieses realized they need to expand
to US market.
The key here is to take current opportunity, and make a prof

【在 t*m 的大作中提到】

: In long run, I feel Apex not in good position. Once Chinese figure
: it out like Hi Er, it is doom time for Apex. It is different from
: Toshiba's laptop because Changhong does design/product except
: marketing.
: China based companies has been look around beyond China, that holly
: VC for example. China national investing inc. has been to SV for
: opportunity, I even heard rumor of Lian Xiang want to invest Palm.
: Nowdays there are so many tech companies head to China while there
: are so many chinese engine

t*m2002-04-07 08:04

5 楼

Where is relation/funding,sigh. For a tech startup, it is now very
difficult to get funding without revenue in good valuation, VC
here was burned last 2 years.
Currently, most market are saturated like semi/cosumer electronic/
wireless and dead telcomm/optical/PC. Opportunity for us may be
importing those tech to China where they are seriouly in short
guess most are engineering pp here.
As to that cdma dept bought out by holly VC, they supporsely will
sell baseband chip for $15 and qualcomm will

【在 l**e 的大作中提到】

: For startup, it doesn't matter what is the long run. The current
: opportunities are the most important.
: In the long run, anything could happen. A startup doing similar
: business like Apex could very possibly become a subsidiary of
: Changhong. Because the expretise in import/export and retail area,
: these type of companies could be useful to those big Chinese
: enterprises, once those enterprieses realized they need to expand
: to US market.
: The key here is to take current opportunity, and make a prof

l*e2002-04-07 08:04

6 楼

There could be many opportunities other than high techs. High tech
area is bad these days. The objective for startup is just to take
opportunity and make money. It doesn't matter what the opportunity
is.
Maybe they didn't do well after the acquization. Any investment
could fail, it's just a risk that venture capital have to take.
Loss in a investment or startup is common. Nobody should feel
guilty about it.
This is a very good example for doing a low-tech business.
Maybe I am just babbling

【在 t*m 的大作中提到】

: Where is relation/funding,sigh. For a tech startup, it is now very
: difficult to get funding without revenue in good valuation, VC
: here was burned last 2 years.
: Currently, most market are saturated like semi/cosumer electronic/
: wireless and dead telcomm/optical/PC. Opportunity for us may be
: importing those tech to China where they are seriouly in short
: guess most are engineering pp here.
: As to that cdma dept bought out by holly VC, they supporsely will
: sell baseband chip for $15 and qualcomm will