C*n
2 楼
为什么有争议,哪里才有文件规定,对律师来说,没什么复杂的,I-140表本身就写得
很清楚:
http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-140.pdf
http://blogs.ilw.com/entry.php?6443-PERM-I-140-Preference-Petit
Form I-140 states, "Check below if this petition is being filed:
1. To amend a previously filed petition. Previous petition receipt number:
2. For the Schedule A, Group I or II designation.
These categories serve as reminders that an I-140 may be filed multiple
times with the same PERM approval. The first time the I-140 is filed, the
original PERM must be submitted. However, subsequent filings will be "
Amended Petitions" and do not require the original PERM.
Employers can file as many petitions as they wish, and in any category they
wish. It is not uncommon for petitions with approved PERM cases to be filed
both 2nd and 3rd preference.
Finally, when an I-140 is approved for an alien, the priority date may be
used for subsequent I-140's filed for the same alien, even if filed by a
different employer.
很清楚:
http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-140.pdf
http://blogs.ilw.com/entry.php?6443-PERM-I-140-Preference-Petit
Form I-140 states, "Check below if this petition is being filed:
1. To amend a previously filed petition. Previous petition receipt number:
2. For the Schedule A, Group I or II designation.
These categories serve as reminders that an I-140 may be filed multiple
times with the same PERM approval. The first time the I-140 is filed, the
original PERM must be submitted. However, subsequent filings will be "
Amended Petitions" and do not require the original PERM.
Employers can file as many petitions as they wish, and in any category they
wish. It is not uncommon for petitions with approved PERM cases to be filed
both 2nd and 3rd preference.
Finally, when an I-140 is approved for an alien, the priority date may be
used for subsequent I-140's filed for the same alien, even if filed by a
different employer.
f*u
4 楼
这个解释的意思是,针对同一个PERM file多次I-140,从第二个开始只能amend,但无
需提交新的PERM;同一个雇主可以给一个员工file多个I-140,它们可以属于不同类别。
It is not uncommon for petitions with approved PERM cases to be filed both
2nd and 3rd preference.
一个EB2 PERM+I-140,一个EB3 PERM+I-140,这个当然是可以的。
关键是同一个 PERM 能不能 file 两个独立的 I-140。
【在 C**********n 的大作中提到】
: 为什么有争议,哪里才有文件规定,对律师来说,没什么复杂的,I-140表本身就写得
: 很清楚:
: http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-140.pdf
: http://blogs.ilw.com/entry.php?6443-PERM-I-140-Preference-Petit
: Form I-140 states, "Check below if this petition is being filed:
: 1. To amend a previously filed petition. Previous petition receipt number:
: 2. For the Schedule A, Group I or II designation.
: These categories serve as reminders that an I-140 may be filed multiple
: times with the same PERM approval. The first time the I-140 is filed, the
: original PERM must be submitted. However, subsequent filings will be "
需提交新的PERM;同一个雇主可以给一个员工file多个I-140,它们可以属于不同类别。
It is not uncommon for petitions with approved PERM cases to be filed both
2nd and 3rd preference.
一个EB2 PERM+I-140,一个EB3 PERM+I-140,这个当然是可以的。
关键是同一个 PERM 能不能 file 两个独立的 I-140。
【在 C**********n 的大作中提到】
: 为什么有争议,哪里才有文件规定,对律师来说,没什么复杂的,I-140表本身就写得
: 很清楚:
: http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-140.pdf
: http://blogs.ilw.com/entry.php?6443-PERM-I-140-Preference-Petit
: Form I-140 states, "Check below if this petition is being filed:
: 1. To amend a previously filed petition. Previous petition receipt number:
: 2. For the Schedule A, Group I or II designation.
: These categories serve as reminders that an I-140 may be filed multiple
: times with the same PERM approval. The first time the I-140 is filed, the
: original PERM must be submitted. However, subsequent filings will be "
l*t
6 楼
These categories serve as reminders that an I-140 may be filed multiple
times with the same PERM approval. The first time the I-140 is filed, the
original PERM must be submitted. However, subsequent filings will be "
Amended Petitions" and do not require the original PERM.
Employers can file as many petitions as they wish, and in any category they
wish. It is not uncommon for petitions with approved PERM cases to be filed
both 2nd and 3rd preference.
你把这两段连起来读一遍,第一句就写了same PERM approval
单独把你那句话拿出来读确实不清楚,但是人家第一段就写清楚了前提
别。
【在 f**u 的大作中提到】
: 这个解释的意思是,针对同一个PERM file多次I-140,从第二个开始只能amend,但无
: 需提交新的PERM;同一个雇主可以给一个员工file多个I-140,它们可以属于不同类别。
: It is not uncommon for petitions with approved PERM cases to be filed both
: 2nd and 3rd preference.
: 一个EB2 PERM+I-140,一个EB3 PERM+I-140,这个当然是可以的。
: 关键是同一个 PERM 能不能 file 两个独立的 I-140。
times with the same PERM approval. The first time the I-140 is filed, the
original PERM must be submitted. However, subsequent filings will be "
Amended Petitions" and do not require the original PERM.
Employers can file as many petitions as they wish, and in any category they
wish. It is not uncommon for petitions with approved PERM cases to be filed
both 2nd and 3rd preference.
你把这两段连起来读一遍,第一句就写了same PERM approval
单独把你那句话拿出来读确实不清楚,但是人家第一段就写清楚了前提
别。
【在 f**u 的大作中提到】
: 这个解释的意思是,针对同一个PERM file多次I-140,从第二个开始只能amend,但无
: 需提交新的PERM;同一个雇主可以给一个员工file多个I-140,它们可以属于不同类别。
: It is not uncommon for petitions with approved PERM cases to be filed both
: 2nd and 3rd preference.
: 一个EB2 PERM+I-140,一个EB3 PERM+I-140,这个当然是可以的。
: 关键是同一个 PERM 能不能 file 两个独立的 I-140。
N*g
8 楼
“However, subsequent filings will be "Amended Petitions"”
所谓"Amended Petitions",应该就是把原来的140改掉,即一旦改成EB3的140,原来
EB2的140就废了。那么脚踩两只船的计划就落空了。
广大EB2C关心的就是能不能脚踩两只船。如果只能脚踩一条船,这里面就有风险了。因
为PERM超过6个月,140不能premium processing,等140 amend批下来的时候EB3C排期
如果发生倒退,你又被关在门外。然后一两个月后,奥本发现大批EB2C降级,来个更大
的倒退,并且把EB2C排期大幅前进,这时反而是按兵不动的EB2C渔翁得利了。
所谓"Amended Petitions",应该就是把原来的140改掉,即一旦改成EB3的140,原来
EB2的140就废了。那么脚踩两只船的计划就落空了。
广大EB2C关心的就是能不能脚踩两只船。如果只能脚踩一条船,这里面就有风险了。因
为PERM超过6个月,140不能premium processing,等140 amend批下来的时候EB3C排期
如果发生倒退,你又被关在门外。然后一两个月后,奥本发现大批EB2C降级,来个更大
的倒退,并且把EB2C排期大幅前进,这时反而是按兵不动的EB2C渔翁得利了。
t*s
10 楼
既然能改EB3来,eb2提前也应该能中改回EB2吧
感觉就是恨折腾
【在 N****g 的大作中提到】
: “However, subsequent filings will be "Amended Petitions"”
: 所谓"Amended Petitions",应该就是把原来的140改掉,即一旦改成EB3的140,原来
: EB2的140就废了。那么脚踩两只船的计划就落空了。
: 广大EB2C关心的就是能不能脚踩两只船。如果只能脚踩一条船,这里面就有风险了。因
: 为PERM超过6个月,140不能premium processing,等140 amend批下来的时候EB3C排期
: 如果发生倒退,你又被关在门外。然后一两个月后,奥本发现大批EB2C降级,来个更大
: 的倒退,并且把EB2C排期大幅前进,这时反而是按兵不动的EB2C渔翁得利了。
感觉就是恨折腾
【在 N****g 的大作中提到】
: “However, subsequent filings will be "Amended Petitions"”
: 所谓"Amended Petitions",应该就是把原来的140改掉,即一旦改成EB3的140,原来
: EB2的140就废了。那么脚踩两只船的计划就落空了。
: 广大EB2C关心的就是能不能脚踩两只船。如果只能脚踩一条船,这里面就有风险了。因
: 为PERM超过6个月,140不能premium processing,等140 amend批下来的时候EB3C排期
: 如果发生倒退,你又被关在门外。然后一两个月后,奥本发现大批EB2C降级,来个更大
: 的倒退,并且把EB2C排期大幅前进,这时反而是按兵不动的EB2C渔翁得利了。
C*n
12 楼
律师认为可以脚踩两只船,而且绝对不须要重新申请PERM!
此事是程序bug,真相很快水落石出。你的一两个月奥本退三进二纯属臆测。
【在 N****g 的大作中提到】
: “However, subsequent filings will be "Amended Petitions"”
: 所谓"Amended Petitions",应该就是把原来的140改掉,即一旦改成EB3的140,原来
: EB2的140就废了。那么脚踩两只船的计划就落空了。
: 广大EB2C关心的就是能不能脚踩两只船。如果只能脚踩一条船,这里面就有风险了。因
: 为PERM超过6个月,140不能premium processing,等140 amend批下来的时候EB3C排期
: 如果发生倒退,你又被关在门外。然后一两个月后,奥本发现大批EB2C降级,来个更大
: 的倒退,并且把EB2C排期大幅前进,这时反而是按兵不动的EB2C渔翁得利了。
此事是程序bug,真相很快水落石出。你的一两个月奥本退三进二纯属臆测。
【在 N****g 的大作中提到】
: “However, subsequent filings will be "Amended Petitions"”
: 所谓"Amended Petitions",应该就是把原来的140改掉,即一旦改成EB3的140,原来
: EB2的140就废了。那么脚踩两只船的计划就落空了。
: 广大EB2C关心的就是能不能脚踩两只船。如果只能脚踩一条船,这里面就有风险了。因
: 为PERM超过6个月,140不能premium processing,等140 amend批下来的时候EB3C排期
: 如果发生倒退,你又被关在门外。然后一两个月后,奥本发现大批EB2C降级,来个更大
: 的倒退,并且把EB2C排期大幅前进,这时反而是按兵不动的EB2C渔翁得利了。
h*m
16 楼
晕,林律师
我是来泼冷水的。。。
“These categories serve as reminders that an I-140 may be filed multiple
times with the same PERM approval. The first time the I-140 is filed, the
original PERM must be submitted. However, subsequent filings will be "
Amended Petitions" and do not require the original PERM.
Employers can file as many petitions as they wish, and in any category they
wish. It is not uncommon for petitions with approved PERM cases to be filed
both 2nd and 3rd preference.
Finally, when an I-140 is approved for an alien, the priority date may be
used for subsequent I-140's filed for the same alien, even if filed by a
different employer.”
这段话根本不是移民局或者140上提到的,这是你提到的案例中律师总结的。
并且你提到的案例是要申请EB1,却填成了NIW的case。RFE的时候,律师要求换catagory
申请,被移民局拒绝。新的140递上去后,最终被拒,years later 485也被拒了。NIW
和EB1都不需要PERM的呀。这个案例的意思就是140可以多递几次,但是140也都被拒了
。这个案例的意义何在?难道就是要给大家看上面这段文字么?就算是这样,这段总结
的问题文字,跟这个实际案例的又有什么关系呢?NIW, EB1跟PERM都没啥关系吧。。
140可以用approved PERM的依据从何而来?
不过单看这个案例,确实可以得到你的结论, amend不会影响以前的140,因为这个案
例中把第二份理解为"amended petition"但你忽略了这其实是个错误的概念。因为是
140中说的很清楚,第二份的目的是 “to amend a previous filed petition",很明显
新的140是针对" previous filed petition",以前的140怎么可能不受影响?以前的140
是要被调出来的,这个在140表格填写的instruction中有一小段解释。http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-140instr.pdf 所以排两条队还是不太可行。。。
不过既然你这么自信,那我们就静候佳音,我一直是Eb2可以降级Eb3的强烈拥护者,但
是始终觉得amendment是唯一的解决方式,不能同时排两条队。这样的风险就是考虑
amended to eb3 140 2-4个月审理过程中EB3的排期会不会倒退的问题。。
【在 C**********n 的大作中提到】
: 为什么有争议,哪里才有文件规定,对律师来说,没什么复杂的,I-140表本身就写得
: 很清楚:
: http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-140.pdf
: http://blogs.ilw.com/entry.php?6443-PERM-I-140-Preference-Petit
: Form I-140 states, "Check below if this petition is being filed:
: 1. To amend a previously filed petition. Previous petition receipt number:
: 2. For the Schedule A, Group I or II designation.
: These categories serve as reminders that an I-140 may be filed multiple
: times with the same PERM approval. The first time the I-140 is filed, the
: original PERM must be submitted. However, subsequent filings will be "
我是来泼冷水的。。。
“These categories serve as reminders that an I-140 may be filed multiple
times with the same PERM approval. The first time the I-140 is filed, the
original PERM must be submitted. However, subsequent filings will be "
Amended Petitions" and do not require the original PERM.
Employers can file as many petitions as they wish, and in any category they
wish. It is not uncommon for petitions with approved PERM cases to be filed
both 2nd and 3rd preference.
Finally, when an I-140 is approved for an alien, the priority date may be
used for subsequent I-140's filed for the same alien, even if filed by a
different employer.”
这段话根本不是移民局或者140上提到的,这是你提到的案例中律师总结的。
并且你提到的案例是要申请EB1,却填成了NIW的case。RFE的时候,律师要求换catagory
申请,被移民局拒绝。新的140递上去后,最终被拒,years later 485也被拒了。NIW
和EB1都不需要PERM的呀。这个案例的意思就是140可以多递几次,但是140也都被拒了
。这个案例的意义何在?难道就是要给大家看上面这段文字么?就算是这样,这段总结
的问题文字,跟这个实际案例的又有什么关系呢?NIW, EB1跟PERM都没啥关系吧。。
140可以用approved PERM的依据从何而来?
不过单看这个案例,确实可以得到你的结论, amend不会影响以前的140,因为这个案
例中把第二份理解为"amended petition"但你忽略了这其实是个错误的概念。因为是
140中说的很清楚,第二份的目的是 “to amend a previous filed petition",很明显
新的140是针对" previous filed petition",以前的140怎么可能不受影响?以前的140
是要被调出来的,这个在140表格填写的instruction中有一小段解释。http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-140instr.pdf 所以排两条队还是不太可行。。。
不过既然你这么自信,那我们就静候佳音,我一直是Eb2可以降级Eb3的强烈拥护者,但
是始终觉得amendment是唯一的解决方式,不能同时排两条队。这样的风险就是考虑
amended to eb3 140 2-4个月审理过程中EB3的排期会不会倒退的问题。。
【在 C**********n 的大作中提到】
: 为什么有争议,哪里才有文件规定,对律师来说,没什么复杂的,I-140表本身就写得
: 很清楚:
: http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-140.pdf
: http://blogs.ilw.com/entry.php?6443-PERM-I-140-Preference-Petit
: Form I-140 states, "Check below if this petition is being filed:
: 1. To amend a previously filed petition. Previous petition receipt number:
: 2. For the Schedule A, Group I or II designation.
: These categories serve as reminders that an I-140 may be filed multiple
: times with the same PERM approval. The first time the I-140 is filed, the
: original PERM must be submitted. However, subsequent filings will be "
j*e
17 楼
...
^C joke
they
filed
catagory
NIW
140
写得
number:
the
【在 h*****m 的大作中提到】
: 晕,林律师
: 我是来泼冷水的。。。
: “These categories serve as reminders that an I-140 may be filed multiple
: times with the same PERM approval. The first time the I-140 is filed, the
: original PERM must be submitted. However, subsequent filings will be "
: Amended Petitions" and do not require the original PERM.
: Employers can file as many petitions as they wish, and in any category they
: wish. It is not uncommon for petitions with approved PERM cases to be filed
: both 2nd and 3rd preference.
: Finally, when an I-140 is approved for an alien, the priority date may be
^C joke
they
filed
catagory
NIW
140
写得
number:
the
【在 h*****m 的大作中提到】
: 晕,林律师
: 我是来泼冷水的。。。
: “These categories serve as reminders that an I-140 may be filed multiple
: times with the same PERM approval. The first time the I-140 is filed, the
: original PERM must be submitted. However, subsequent filings will be "
: Amended Petitions" and do not require the original PERM.
: Employers can file as many petitions as they wish, and in any category they
: wish. It is not uncommon for petitions with approved PERM cases to be filed
: both 2nd and 3rd preference.
: Finally, when an I-140 is approved for an alien, the priority date may be
C*n
18 楼
快则几个星期,慢不过几个月,我做成了再回来告诉你们。
they
filed
【在 h*****m 的大作中提到】
: 晕,林律师
: 我是来泼冷水的。。。
: “These categories serve as reminders that an I-140 may be filed multiple
: times with the same PERM approval. The first time the I-140 is filed, the
: original PERM must be submitted. However, subsequent filings will be "
: Amended Petitions" and do not require the original PERM.
: Employers can file as many petitions as they wish, and in any category they
: wish. It is not uncommon for petitions with approved PERM cases to be filed
: both 2nd and 3rd preference.
: Finally, when an I-140 is approved for an alien, the priority date may be
they
filed
【在 h*****m 的大作中提到】
: 晕,林律师
: 我是来泼冷水的。。。
: “These categories serve as reminders that an I-140 may be filed multiple
: times with the same PERM approval. The first time the I-140 is filed, the
: original PERM must be submitted. However, subsequent filings will be "
: Amended Petitions" and do not require the original PERM.
: Employers can file as many petitions as they wish, and in any category they
: wish. It is not uncommon for petitions with approved PERM cases to be filed
: both 2nd and 3rd preference.
: Finally, when an I-140 is approved for an alien, the priority date may be
m*g
19 楼
PERM是有效期的,过了180天,你怎么申请EB3的140?
【在 C**********n 的大作中提到】
: 为什么有争议,哪里才有文件规定,对律师来说,没什么复杂的,I-140表本身就写得
: 很清楚:
: http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-140.pdf
: http://blogs.ilw.com/entry.php?6443-PERM-I-140-Preference-Petit
: Form I-140 states, "Check below if this petition is being filed:
: 1. To amend a previously filed petition. Previous petition receipt number:
: 2. For the Schedule A, Group I or II designation.
: These categories serve as reminders that an I-140 may be filed multiple
: times with the same PERM approval. The first time the I-140 is filed, the
: original PERM must be submitted. However, subsequent filings will be "
【在 C**********n 的大作中提到】
: 为什么有争议,哪里才有文件规定,对律师来说,没什么复杂的,I-140表本身就写得
: 很清楚:
: http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-140.pdf
: http://blogs.ilw.com/entry.php?6443-PERM-I-140-Preference-Petit
: Form I-140 states, "Check below if this petition is being filed:
: 1. To amend a previously filed petition. Previous petition receipt number:
: 2. For the Schedule A, Group I or II designation.
: These categories serve as reminders that an I-140 may be filed multiple
: times with the same PERM approval. The first time the I-140 is filed, the
: original PERM must be submitted. However, subsequent filings will be "
w*p
21 楼
本来就是这样的,按兵不动的eb3现在不就爽得很,折腾的一般都没好结果
【在 N****g 的大作中提到】
: “However, subsequent filings will be "Amended Petitions"”
: 所谓"Amended Petitions",应该就是把原来的140改掉,即一旦改成EB3的140,原来
: EB2的140就废了。那么脚踩两只船的计划就落空了。
: 广大EB2C关心的就是能不能脚踩两只船。如果只能脚踩一条船,这里面就有风险了。因
: 为PERM超过6个月,140不能premium processing,等140 amend批下来的时候EB3C排期
: 如果发生倒退,你又被关在门外。然后一两个月后,奥本发现大批EB2C降级,来个更大
: 的倒退,并且把EB2C排期大幅前进,这时反而是按兵不动的EB2C渔翁得利了。
【在 N****g 的大作中提到】
: “However, subsequent filings will be "Amended Petitions"”
: 所谓"Amended Petitions",应该就是把原来的140改掉,即一旦改成EB3的140,原来
: EB2的140就废了。那么脚踩两只船的计划就落空了。
: 广大EB2C关心的就是能不能脚踩两只船。如果只能脚踩一条船,这里面就有风险了。因
: 为PERM超过6个月,140不能premium processing,等140 amend批下来的时候EB3C排期
: 如果发生倒退,你又被关在门外。然后一两个月后,奥本发现大批EB2C降级,来个更大
: 的倒退,并且把EB2C排期大幅前进,这时反而是按兵不动的EB2C渔翁得利了。
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