急问:IRS的wash-sale rule明明是我赔了很多,但却现实很高的profit,真的要交这么多税么? - 未名空间MITBBS历史存档

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急问:IRS的wash-sale rule明明是我赔了很多,但却现实很高的profit,真的要交这么多税么?

急问:IRS的wash-sale rule明明是我赔了很多,但却现实很高的profit,真的要交这么多税么?# Stock

n*t2014-04-29 07:04

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最近股市赔了很多钱,所以卖了很多股票at loss,然后又30天内买回来了,但是赔了很多
,发现brokerage 账户里不算这些loss,竟然把我的yearly realized profit定义的非常
高!!! 发现是我最近的赔的竟然都当成wash不算了!那我明明没有赚那么多钱,却要按照
他给的realized profit交好多税么?怎么办啊?!谢谢指教!

L*82014-04-29 07:04

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对这叫 Wash sale .没有办法的。所以要避免卖了之后，再买回，尤其是大笔的ＬＯＳ
Ｓ　，除非你肯定同样的股票你买回来一定挣钱，ＬＯＳＳ　就可以 DEFER

【在 n*****t 的大作中提到】

: 最近股市赔了很多钱,所以卖了很多股票at loss,然后又30天内买回来了,但是赔了很多
: ,发现brokerage 账户里不算这些loss,竟然把我的yearly realized profit定义的非常
: 高!!! 发现是我最近的赔的竟然都当成wash不算了!那我明明没有赚那么多钱,却要按照
: 他给的realized profit交好多税么?怎么办啊?!谢谢指教!

N*J2014-04-29 07:04

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這個規定一直是有的，只不過現在開始執行了。好像Daytrader可以除外

V*n2014-04-29 07:04

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sell what u have before year end

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n*t2014-04-29 07:04

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真的么?我是在 brokerage那里被定义为day trader的!我是不是可以用这个理由把loss
realized了? 谢谢!

【在 N***J 的大作中提到】

: 這個規定一直是有的，只不過現在開始執行了。好像Daytrader可以除外

n*t2014-04-29 07:04

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可是我现在是底价卖了又低价买进来的,这次低价买进来的,到了年底也不会再有那么多
loss啦,八成该长一些了吧?如果卖了，不是只能realized更多profit么？谢谢

【在 V******n 的大作中提到】

: sell what u have before year end

f*r2014-04-29 07:04

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The wash sale loss will be deferred to next year. For example, you gained $
100 and lost $200 in 2012. The $200 loss is wash sale. Thus, you will have
to pay 2012 tax for your $100 gain although your net loss is $100. In 2013,
assume you made $100 and broke even. When you do your tax for 2013, you
carry over your loss of 200 instead of your net loss 100. So the income will
be $100 - $200 = !-100 and you will be able to use the 100 to reduce your
gross income (get the tax for the 100 you paid). In sum, you will not pay
extra tax.

g*c2014-04-29 07:04

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后年报loss就行了
瞎折腾
capital loss可以unlimited claim
别大惊小怪的

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n*t2014-04-29 07:04

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太好了，听大牛们的意思，我明年如果有什么gain就可以用这次的loss抵消了？那太好
了，我就不用太担心了。谢谢！！！！

,
will

【在 f********r 的大作中提到】

: The wash sale loss will be deferred to next year. For example, you gained $
: 100 and lost $200 in 2012. The $200 loss is wash sale. Thus, you will have
: to pay 2012 tax for your $100 gain although your net loss is $100. In 2013,
: assume you made $100 and broke even. When you do your tax for 2013, you
: carry over your loss of 200 instead of your net loss 100. So the income will
: be $100 - $200 = !-100 and you will be able to use the 100 to reduce your
: gross income (get the tax for the 100 you paid). In sum, you will not pay
: extra tax.

P*o2014-04-29 07:04

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哦原来是这样那请问用turbo tax我的broker td 会自动把前年的wash sales 算上吗
？还是这部分要手动加上

,
will

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c*22014-04-29 07:04

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the wash sale rule has been there forever.
US wants you to pay tax on earning quickly, and not to play game (sell at
year end, buy back in January) to defer your profit from being taxed this
year.

n*t2014-04-29 07:04

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同问，等大牛们回答

【在 P*******o 的大作中提到】

: 哦原来是这样那请问用turbo tax我的broker td 会自动把前年的wash sales 算上吗
: ？还是这部分要手动加上
:
: ,
: will