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Touareg TDI Sport with Nav 价格# Automobile - 车轮上的传奇
d*e
1
MSRP $50650
New car - $45618
Demo car, 800+ miles - $43650
分别是两个dealer,还有多少讲价的空间?
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J*6
2
5000+off吧大概, 价钱不错, 能透露下邮编多少么, 谢谢。

★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8

【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: MSRP $50650
: New car - $45618
: Demo car, 800+ miles - $43650
: 分别是两个dealer,还有多少讲价的空间?

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i*r
3
这个价钱可以买 V6 Lux
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d*e
4
能展开说说么

【在 i*******r 的大作中提到】
: 这个价钱可以买 V6 Lux
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i*r
5
最近也在看touareg。TDI比同model的V6版MSRP贵$3500, 然后买的话折扣少$1000
所以基本上到手价格TDI比同model贵$4500。
另一方面,Lux 比Sports with Nav 贵4000.
所以这是个取舍的问题:TDI engine,还是皮椅天窗lumbar support 19寸轮。
当然最理想的是 TDI Lux 或者 Executive。
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T*c
6
You should buy at least Lux if not Exec. I have the Exec for a few weeks now
and I love it, especially the leather, interior, sound system and sun roof.
Why waste money on TDI?
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i*r
7
Thanks for your suggestion.

now
roof.

【在 T*********c 的大作中提到】
: You should buy at least Lux if not Exec. I have the Exec for a few weeks now
: and I love it, especially the leather, interior, sound system and sun roof.
: Why waste money on TDI?

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r*y
8
加选 tdi 打折不太给力啊, 才 5k off
看版上 sport 通常是 9k off 的.

【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: MSRP $50650
: New car - $45618
: Demo car, 800+ miles - $43650
: 分别是两个dealer,还有多少讲价的空间?

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i*r
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还有一点,TDI是德国组装的,V6是斯洛伐克组装的
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k*a
10
最后一句亮了。

now
roof.

【在 T*********c 的大作中提到】
: You should buy at least Lux if not Exec. I have the Exec for a few weeks now
: and I love it, especially the leather, interior, sound system and sun roof.
: Why waste money on TDI?

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h*h
11
"why waste money on TDI"...
赞理直气壮
再加几句:
"why waste money on SUV"...
"why waste money on Slovakian cars"...
"why waste money on buying instead of leasing"...
"why waste money on top trims with a diaosi brand"...

now
roof.

【在 T*********c 的大作中提到】
: You should buy at least Lux if not Exec. I have the Exec for a few weeks now
: and I love it, especially the leather, interior, sound system and sun roof.
: Why waste money on TDI?

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T*c
12
Look at the title of this post. We are not discussing leasing a top trim
Acura sedan made in Japan, are we? Didiaoge is looking into Touareg already.
With 3K extra, money is better spent on the Touareg lux trim than on the
TDI engine. What's so good about the VW TDI engine so you are giving up the
sunroof and premium leather seats?

【在 h*h 的大作中提到】
: "why waste money on TDI"...
: 赞理直气壮
: 再加几句:
: "why waste money on SUV"...
: "why waste money on Slovakian cars"...
: "why waste money on buying instead of leasing"...
: "why waste money on top trims with a diaosi brand"...
:
: now
: roof.

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p*a
13


【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: MSRP $50650
: New car - $45618
: Demo car, 800+ miles - $43650
: 分别是两个dealer,还有多少讲价的空间?

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k*a
14
May I guess you're a Chinese girl?

already.
the

【在 T*********c 的大作中提到】
: Look at the title of this post. We are not discussing leasing a top trim
: Acura sedan made in Japan, are we? Didiaoge is looking into Touareg already.
: With 3K extra, money is better spent on the Touareg lux trim than on the
: TDI engine. What's so good about the VW TDI engine so you are giving up the
: sunroof and premium leather seats?

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T*c
15
LOL. How does gender play a part of this discussion?
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d*e
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先不说柴油发动机的其他优点,单就是3k的差价4万迈就开回来了。
除非你打算4万迈以内就卖掉,否则稍微长远一点来看,柴油就是更省钱的。

already.
the

【在 T*********c 的大作中提到】
: Look at the title of this post. We are not discussing leasing a top trim
: Acura sedan made in Japan, are we? Didiaoge is looking into Touareg already.
: With 3K extra, money is better spent on the Touareg lux trim than on the
: TDI engine. What's so good about the VW TDI engine so you are giving up the
: sunroof and premium leather seats?

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T*c
17
By picking Sport-Navi with TDI over V6 with Lux/Exec, you are permanently
missing out the sunroof, the premium leather seats and the upscale wood
interior. Without these things, maybe it is better to buy Lexus RX or Acura
MDX.

【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: 先不说柴油发动机的其他优点,单就是3k的差价4万迈就开回来了。
: 除非你打算4万迈以内就卖掉,否则稍微长远一点来看,柴油就是更省钱的。
:
: already.
: the

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d*e
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Touareg的Sunroof根本没法全开,没有也没啥可惜的。
至于皮椅和木质内饰,仁者见仁吧。
有多少人买途锐是为了“豪华”去的?

Acura

【在 T*********c 的大作中提到】
: By picking Sport-Navi with TDI over V6 with Lux/Exec, you are permanently
: missing out the sunroof, the premium leather seats and the upscale wood
: interior. Without these things, maybe it is better to buy Lexus RX or Acura
: MDX.

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T*c
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I guess people pay for the things they really Enjoy. Although the sunroof
doesn't open all the way, the view and light it brought in is priceless for
my 2nd row passengers. Same thing for the sunroof in Land Rover 4. What a
difference it made to the car.
It all came down to the budget. If I have a higher budget, I will go for
Cayenne, MB GL550, Range Rover, 2014 BMW X5. If I only have 50k, then the
choice is very limited. As I said, if you don't need the luxury of the
Touareg exec, then maybe it is better to go for the RX 350 or MDX.

【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: Touareg的Sunroof根本没法全开,没有也没啥可惜的。
: 至于皮椅和木质内饰,仁者见仁吧。
: 有多少人买途锐是为了“豪华”去的?
:
: Acura

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h*h
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眼光锐利啊

【在 k****a 的大作中提到】
: May I guess you're a Chinese girl?
:
: already.
: the

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d*e
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呵呵,估计你真是个女的。

for

【在 T*********c 的大作中提到】
: I guess people pay for the things they really Enjoy. Although the sunroof
: doesn't open all the way, the view and light it brought in is priceless for
: my 2nd row passengers. Same thing for the sunroof in Land Rover 4. What a
: difference it made to the car.
: It all came down to the budget. If I have a higher budget, I will go for
: Cayenne, MB GL550, Range Rover, 2014 BMW X5. If I only have 50k, then the
: choice is very limited. As I said, if you don't need the luxury of the
: Touareg exec, then maybe it is better to go for the RX 350 or MDX.

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h*h
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same thing can be said about you missing the great low-speed power and
performance of the TDI, the fuel economy coming with it, and the feeling of
being unique/niche.
VW shield does not represent anything luxury... people looking for luxury
will more likely just go with BBAP. Touareg is really a "bargin" luxury
after all. so it's laughable to make such a big deal on luxury features of
its top trims.

Acura

【在 T*********c 的大作中提到】
: By picking Sport-Navi with TDI over V6 with Lux/Exec, you are permanently
: missing out the sunroof, the premium leather seats and the upscale wood
: interior. Without these things, maybe it is better to buy Lexus RX or Acura
: MDX.

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T*c
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It is not easy to gather 3 sexist in one post. LoL When one lacks argument,
he then came up with "I guess you are a girl". The old saying was "no one
cares if you are a dog on the Internet." We are just IDs behind electronics.
Huh, a brand does not represent anything. Luxury is in the specific car and
trim you have. There are people buying bare Cayenne and people like me
buying Touareg Exec. It is the same 50k. What's the big deal?
TDI Performance is over rated. I can pass you on the highway easily with
either my Touareg V6 or Mazda 6 i4. It is the driving skill makes one unique
.
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k*a
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So you're saying you are indeed a girl?

【在 T*********c 的大作中提到】
: LOL. How does gender play a part of this discussion?
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k*a
25
If you really put interior above anything else, I think you should go for an
Audi A5. Touareg does not sell for it's luxuriness.

Acura

【在 T*********c 的大作中提到】
: By picking Sport-Navi with TDI over V6 with Lux/Exec, you are permanently
: missing out the sunroof, the premium leather seats and the upscale wood
: interior. Without these things, maybe it is better to buy Lexus RX or Acura
: MDX.

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k*a
26
Touareg's leather seats, sunroof and wooden stuff are more overrated than
the TDI power train dynamics.
Oh, wait, they are not even highly rated.

,
electronics.
and
unique

【在 T*********c 的大作中提到】
: It is not easy to gather 3 sexist in one post. LoL When one lacks argument,
: he then came up with "I guess you are a girl". The old saying was "no one
: cares if you are a dog on the Internet." We are just IDs behind electronics.
: Huh, a brand does not represent anything. Luxury is in the specific car and
: trim you have. There are people buying bare Cayenne and people like me
: buying Touareg Exec. It is the same 50k. What's the big deal?
: TDI Performance is over rated. I can pass you on the highway easily with
: either my Touareg V6 or Mazda 6 i4. It is the driving skill makes one unique
: .

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e*r
27
拿了个offer,$6200 off msrp $50389 (cash or conventional loan), 跟楼主一样的
车,准备明天去取车。

【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: MSRP $50650
: New car - $45618
: Demo car, 800+ miles - $43650
: 分别是两个dealer,还有多少讲价的空间?

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T*c
28
What car do you drive? Unless you have a TDI Exec, your opinion about TDI
and Luxury interior is just something you read about. This post is about
someone trying to buy a Touareg with a limited budget. I did not see one
piece of useful information you gave so far. Someone with a limited budget
usually needs to get the bang for the buck rather than living in the fantasy.
Don't tell me what luxury is. With 50k, this is what you get. With 100k, you
get a much better car.
Do share what you drive. Otherwise we are just wasting time in a stupid way.
I rather waste my time in some other posts.

【在 k****a 的大作中提到】
: Touareg's leather seats, sunroof and wooden stuff are more overrated than
: the TDI power train dynamics.
: Oh, wait, they are not even highly rated.
:
: ,
: electronics.
: and
: unique

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e*r
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说实话,touareg lux 和 exec 是满豪华的,但是比起x5 premium还是差些,更别提
audi q5和 q7了。 我买touareg就是图他的地盘,engine, 和安全。要看豪华和操控,
我就等14 X5了。 而且,对我来说,touareg的天窗使得我的head room 太少了。 唯一
没有的功能是parking sensor了,为这个,去搞exec实在不值得。

【在 e***r 的大作中提到】
: 拿了个offer,$6200 off msrp $50389 (cash or conventional loan), 跟楼主一样的
: 车,准备明天去取车。

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T*c
30
2014 X5 looks really luxury. The LED dashboard is huge. The reviews are very
positive too. It is just that your 50k or my 50k does not get us a 2014 x5
premium. Next time.

【在 e***r 的大作中提到】
: 说实话,touareg lux 和 exec 是满豪华的,但是比起x5 premium还是差些,更别提
: audi q5和 q7了。 我买touareg就是图他的地盘,engine, 和安全。要看豪华和操控,
: 我就等14 X5了。 而且,对我来说,touareg的天窗使得我的head room 太少了。 唯一
: 没有的功能是parking sensor了,为这个,去搞exec实在不值得。

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e*r
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是的,X5要贵一些,我有个很好的offer,2013 X5d, $10,000 off,算下来比touareg只
贵5000多了. 可惜13 x5d 真不咋样,14又等不及。X5 gas 的有没有好的offer。另外
我放弃x5 是因为后排坐的有点晕,每次试驾完,都不是很舒服,不适合我有两个小孩
的家庭。

very
x5

【在 T*********c 的大作中提到】
: 2014 X5 looks really luxury. The LED dashboard is huge. The reviews are very
: positive too. It is just that your 50k or my 50k does not get us a 2014 x5
: premium. Next time.

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s*r
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同意,多数买touareg的人看重的是拖车performance和semi-luxury的内饰。
我的是2012 TDI Lux,当时日本水灾导致摄像头缺货,所有lux都装的是parking
sensor,我觉得还蛮值的。以后过了warranty,我就再加一套birdeye摄像系统。
Exec多出来的项目有些比较鸡肋,比如方向盘加热,红杉木vs胡桃木,和20’轮毂。不
过音响确实好很多,Lux上的那个音响很弱。后座加热在寒冷地区如果父母冬天visit的
话还是有用的。

【在 e***r 的大作中提到】
: 说实话,touareg lux 和 exec 是满豪华的,但是比起x5 premium还是差些,更别提
: audi q5和 q7了。 我买touareg就是图他的地盘,engine, 和安全。要看豪华和操控,
: 我就等14 X5了。 而且,对我来说,touareg的天窗使得我的head room 太少了。 唯一
: 没有的功能是parking sensor了,为这个,去搞exec实在不值得。

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e*r
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摄像头还是不错的,我准备after market去装个front sensor,可惜只能听声音了。

【在 s********r 的大作中提到】
: 同意,多数买touareg的人看重的是拖车performance和semi-luxury的内饰。
: 我的是2012 TDI Lux,当时日本水灾导致摄像头缺货,所有lux都装的是parking
: sensor,我觉得还蛮值的。以后过了warranty,我就再加一套birdeye摄像系统。
: Exec多出来的项目有些比较鸡肋,比如方向盘加热,红杉木vs胡桃木,和20’轮毂。不
: 过音响确实好很多,Lux上的那个音响很弱。后座加热在寒冷地区如果父母冬天visit的
: 话还是有用的。

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s*r
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对,所以以后有机会我要加一套全景摄像头。不过如果仅仅添加倒车摄像头的话工作量
相对添加sensor要容易些。

【在 e***r 的大作中提到】
: 摄像头还是不错的,我准备after market去装个front sensor,可惜只能听声音了。
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d*e
35
这阅读能力,人家明显在挺TDI。

fantasy.
you
way.

【在 T*********c 的大作中提到】
: What car do you drive? Unless you have a TDI Exec, your opinion about TDI
: and Luxury interior is just something you read about. This post is about
: someone trying to buy a Touareg with a limited budget. I did not see one
: piece of useful information you gave so far. Someone with a limited budget
: usually needs to get the bang for the buck rather than living in the fantasy.
: Don't tell me what luxury is. With 50k, this is what you get. With 100k, you
: get a much better car.
: Do share what you drive. Otherwise we are just wasting time in a stupid way.
: I rather waste my time in some other posts.

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k*a
36
你谈budget,5年内TDI为你省的油钱就迅速缩小了实际拥有差价,更别提resale value
就差不多把差价搞回来了。这中间的修理费用应该相差不大。你真会算帐,就不要只提
买车时的payment问题。哪个车能得到biggest bang for the buck,你恐怕没有真正想
清楚。
你谈50k以上的车,每增加10k的budget,你就得到一辆much better car,不需要到
100k才有那么大的区别。3.0T的A6和2.0T的A6比价格相差只有10k,但看上去动力和内
饰上都有质的变化,才真正配称豪华车。3.0T A6是豪华非豪华的分水岭。

fantasy.
you
way.

【在 T*********c 的大作中提到】
: What car do you drive? Unless you have a TDI Exec, your opinion about TDI
: and Luxury interior is just something you read about. This post is about
: someone trying to buy a Touareg with a limited budget. I did not see one
: piece of useful information you gave so far. Someone with a limited budget
: usually needs to get the bang for the buck rather than living in the fantasy.
: Don't tell me what luxury is. With 50k, this is what you get. With 100k, you
: get a much better car.
: Do share what you drive. Otherwise we are just wasting time in a stupid way.
: I rather waste my time in some other posts.

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a*i
37
注意到LZ的昵称……哈哈哈,让MBAP情何以堪啊
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T*c
38
The 3-4k price difference in Sport-Navi V6 and TDI can be saved through MPG
and resale value. No doubt. But you underestimated the value that the Lux/
Exec trim provided. The sunroof and the leather seats are the most important
features.
Last weekend I parked the car, lowered the leather seats, listened to the
music through the Dynaudio system, watched the rain dropped on the full
sunroof, and did great things with lived one in the car. I guess I valued
these things much more than the 3k.
Agree to your "every 10k makes a car better". With 10-20k more, I would go
for a better SUV. But I am very happy with my Exec for the 46k I paid.

value

【在 k****a 的大作中提到】
: 你谈budget,5年内TDI为你省的油钱就迅速缩小了实际拥有差价,更别提resale value
: 就差不多把差价搞回来了。这中间的修理费用应该相差不大。你真会算帐,就不要只提
: 买车时的payment问题。哪个车能得到biggest bang for the buck,你恐怕没有真正想
: 清楚。
: 你谈50k以上的车,每增加10k的budget,你就得到一辆much better car,不需要到
: 100k才有那么大的区别。3.0T的A6和2.0T的A6比价格相差只有10k,但看上去动力和内
: 饰上都有质的变化,才真正配称豪华车。3.0T A6是豪华非豪华的分水岭。
:
: fantasy.
: you

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a*i
39
没图没真相, MTNSGJB
没想到途锐居然有约炮利器的潜质,俺这两年都浪费了,下次国内来小姑娘俺也试试。

MPG
important

【在 T*********c 的大作中提到】
: The 3-4k price difference in Sport-Navi V6 and TDI can be saved through MPG
: and resale value. No doubt. But you underestimated the value that the Lux/
: Exec trim provided. The sunroof and the leather seats are the most important
: features.
: Last weekend I parked the car, lowered the leather seats, listened to the
: music through the Dynaudio system, watched the rain dropped on the full
: sunroof, and did great things with lived one in the car. I guess I valued
: these things much more than the 3k.
: Agree to your "every 10k makes a car better". With 10-20k more, I would go
: for a better SUV. But I am very happy with my Exec for the 46k I paid.

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s*n
40
其它装备相同,你应该加钱买TDI。也就是你应该买Touareg TDI Lux/Executive,那
样你得到更多的扭力,更带劲的驾驶感觉,还更省钱。看下面的链接:
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/06/30/new-us-survey-says-diesel-co
Clean Diesels Have Better Fuel Efficiency & Lower Depreciation Than Gas
Vehicles
Highlights from the diesel-gasoline comparisons include:
- Total Cost of Ownership: In the three year timeframe comparison, diesel
vehicles in the mass market passenger car segment are estimated to save
owners significant money, with the VW Jetta owner saving $3,128, the VW
Jetta Sportwagen owner saving $3,389, and the VW Golf owner saving an
estimated $5,013.
- In the luxury segment, all the diesel versions of the Mercedes-Benz E
Class ($4,175), Mercedes-Benz GL Class ($13,514), Mercedes-Benz M Class ($3,
063), Mercedes-Benz R Class ($5,951) and VW Touareg ($7,819) save owners
money in the three year timeframe.
- Fuel Efficiency: All of the diesel vehicles had better miles per gallon
than the gasoline versions with the diesels having between 8 to 44 percent
higher miles per gallon.
- Fuel Costs: All of the diesel vehicles had lower fuel costs than all the
gas versions of comparable vehicles, with 11 of the 12 vehicles showing
double digit reductions in fuel costs, ranging from 10 to 29 percent.
- Similar to the three year comparisons, five year estimated fuel costs for
diesel vehicles are less than those of comparable gas versions. The
percentage difference in terms of the reduction from gas to diesel costs
decreased for some diesel-gas comparisons as diesel prices began to increase
around the 2005 timeframe.
- Depreciation: Eleven of the 12 diesel vehicles held their value better
than comparable gas vehicles over the three year timeframe with eight
vehicles showing double digit percentage savings ranging from 17 percent up
to 46 percent.
- Nine of the 10 diesel vehicles hold their value better than comparable gas
vehicles over the five year timeframe, with five vehicles showing double
digit percentage savings ranging from 10 percent up to 39 percent.

MPG
important

【在 T*********c 的大作中提到】
: The 3-4k price difference in Sport-Navi V6 and TDI can be saved through MPG
: and resale value. No doubt. But you underestimated the value that the Lux/
: Exec trim provided. The sunroof and the leather seats are the most important
: features.
: Last weekend I parked the car, lowered the leather seats, listened to the
: music through the Dynaudio system, watched the rain dropped on the full
: sunroof, and did great things with lived one in the car. I guess I valued
: these things much more than the 3k.
: Agree to your "every 10k makes a car better". With 10-20k more, I would go
: for a better SUV. But I am very happy with my Exec for the 46k I paid.

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s*r
41
我接送孩子和上下班纯local,30 miles里24个红绿灯,TDI 2012开出来大概是24 mpg.
毕竟是近5000磅的大车,走走停停很耗油。highway的话一般在29-31 mpg,如果车速不
太高(~60mph)又不堵的话就更高。汽油版的话根据clubtouareg上的报告纯local
average 15mpg左右,高速大概23mpg左右。
60k下来大概就能省1000多gallon的油。不算柴油跟premium gas的差价,本地冬天柴油
贵点夏天汽油贵点总体大概$4/gallon,这样60k下来油钱就能省下TDI版本的MSRP差价
了。resale差价就不提了。当然gasser的清仓折扣比较大,10k off的时候傻子才去买
TDI。

【在 s****n 的大作中提到】
: 其它装备相同,你应该加钱买TDI。也就是你应该买Touareg TDI Lux/Executive,那
: 样你得到更多的扭力,更带劲的驾驶感觉,还更省钱。看下面的链接:
: http://www.autoblog.com/2013/06/30/new-us-survey-says-diesel-co
: Clean Diesels Have Better Fuel Efficiency & Lower Depreciation Than Gas
: Vehicles
: Highlights from the diesel-gasoline comparisons include:
: - Total Cost of Ownership: In the three year timeframe comparison, diesel
: vehicles in the mass market passenger car segment are estimated to save
: owners significant money, with the VW Jetta owner saving $3,128, the VW
: Jetta Sportwagen owner saving $3,389, and the VW Golf owner saving an

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k*a
42
VR6发动机不太给力,Q7汽油版也是。
TDI all the way。 No brainer。

mpg.

【在 s********r 的大作中提到】
: 我接送孩子和上下班纯local,30 miles里24个红绿灯,TDI 2012开出来大概是24 mpg.
: 毕竟是近5000磅的大车,走走停停很耗油。highway的话一般在29-31 mpg,如果车速不
: 太高(~60mph)又不堵的话就更高。汽油版的话根据clubtouareg上的报告纯local
: average 15mpg左右,高速大概23mpg左右。
: 60k下来大概就能省1000多gallon的油。不算柴油跟premium gas的差价,本地冬天柴油
: 贵点夏天汽油贵点总体大概$4/gallon,这样60k下来油钱就能省下TDI版本的MSRP差价
: 了。resale差价就不提了。当然gasser的清仓折扣比较大,10k off的时候傻子才去买
: TDI。

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e*r
43
我也觉得是,Touareg要是3.0T的话,就可以考虑了。

【在 k****a 的大作中提到】
: VR6发动机不太给力,Q7汽油版也是。
: TDI all the way。 No brainer。
:
: mpg.

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h*z
44
人家花4万多钱买车,一帮子穷逼在这儿积极歪歪说这车不好是什么意思
——日托你不乖
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k*a
45
就是不合算啊你个傻。

【在 h**z 的大作中提到】
: 人家花4万多钱买车,一帮子穷逼在这儿积极歪歪说这车不好是什么意思
: ——日托你不乖

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h*h
46

调戏小闺女好玩啊。这都是kayak嗅觉敏锐。另外这闺女也配合啊,这不为了prove自己
的point, 连车震都用上了

【在 h**z 的大作中提到】
: 人家花4万多钱买车,一帮子穷逼在这儿积极歪歪说这车不好是什么意思
: ——日托你不乖

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d*e
47
看到did great thing with "lived" one,笑死我了。
还有typo混在里面,哈哈

【在 h*h 的大作中提到】
:
: 调戏小闺女好玩啊。这都是kayak嗅觉敏锐。另外这闺女也配合啊,这不为了prove自己
: 的point, 连车震都用上了

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k*a
48
missed那段浪漫的描绘,哈哈。

【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: 看到did great thing with "lived" one,笑死我了。
: 还有typo混在里面,哈哈

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h*h
49
说来说去,谁知道你是不是真的开Exec呢?上个合影证明下吧,哈哈

fantasy.
you
way.

【在 T*********c 的大作中提到】
: What car do you drive? Unless you have a TDI Exec, your opinion about TDI
: and Luxury interior is just something you read about. This post is about
: someone trying to buy a Touareg with a limited budget. I did not see one
: piece of useful information you gave so far. Someone with a limited budget
: usually needs to get the bang for the buck rather than living in the fantasy.
: Don't tell me what luxury is. With 50k, this is what you get. With 100k, you
: get a much better car.
: Do share what you drive. Otherwise we are just wasting time in a stupid way.
: I rather waste my time in some other posts.

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T*c
50
LOL it is so fun to play three horny sexists here. You really think there
are females here bull shitting cars with people like you? LMAO
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a*i
51
突然意识到可能人家在庆祝DOM的倒掉,背后一阵恶寒……

【在 T*********c 的大作中提到】
: LOL it is so fun to play three horny sexists here. You really think there
: are females here bull shitting cars with people like you? LMAO

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k*a
52
Fun you ahead. You make a terrible mistake, male or female.

【在 T*********c 的大作中提到】
: LOL it is so fun to play three horny sexists here. You really think there
: are females here bull shitting cars with people like you? LMAO

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