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GM 10 billions官司 29条确定的人命 1500起待核实事件# Automobile - 车轮上的传奇
D*0
1
只想说一句:这要养活多少律师!!
http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2014/gm-sued-10-billion-death
October 21, 2014 — GM has been sued for $10 billion in two proposed class-
action lawsuits that accuse the beleaguered automaker of causing a loss of
value in 27 million General Motors vehicles.
One lawsuit covers all GM vehicles bought or leased between July 11, 2009
and July 3, 2014. The second lawsuit covers GM vehicles purchased or leased
before July 11, 2009, and only those with ignition switch defects.
According to the lawsuits, GM-branded vehicles started losing value in
February 2014 and continue to do so, with an example of the 2010-2011 Camaro
losing $2,000 in value.
The lawsuits accuses GM of misrepresentation, concealment and non-disclosure
of a host of serious safety defects. Further, the lawsuits allege GM knew
about the defects but concealed the them and failed to fix the problems.
The second complaint specifically lists the following vehicles purchased or
leased before GM's bankruptcy in 2009: (Click a model to read complaints as
submitted to CarComplaints.com)
2003-2009 Saturn Ion
2005-2009 Chevrolet Cobalt
2007-2009 Pontiac G5
2006-2009 Chevrolet HHR
2006-2009 Pontiac Solstice
2007-2009 Saturn Sky
2004-2005 Buick Regal LS & GS
2005-2009 Buick Lacrosse
2006-2009 Buick Lucerne
2000-2009 Cadillac Deville
2007-2009 Cadillac DTS
2006-2009 Chevrolet Impala
2006-2009 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
2003-2014 Cadillac CTS
2004-2006 Cadillac SRX
1997-2005 Chevrolet Malibu
2000-2005 Chevrolet Impala
2000-2005 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
2000-2005 Pontiac Grand Am
2004-2008 Pontiac Grand Prix
1998-2002 Oldsmobile Intrigue
1999-2004 Oldsmobile Alero
2008-2009 Pontiac G8
Read the first lawsuit here and the second complaint here.
With questions about the lawsuits, contact the law firm of Hagens Berman.
29 Death Claims Approved Over Fatalities Related to Ignition Switches
A month ago, General Motors had approved 19 death claims related to
defective ignition switches that have caused millions of GM vehicles to be
recalled. Today the number of approved death claims is 29 as GM continues to
analyze over 1,500 claims submitted to a program to compensate the victims
of the deadly ignition switches.
GM created the compensation fund after an admitted 10-year delay in ordering
ignition switch recalls caused accidents, injuries and deaths. A simple
bump of the knee or a heavy key ring caused the ignition switch to move out
of position and shut off the engine. The sudden failure of the engine caused
a complete loss of power steering, power brakes and failure of the air bags
to deploy in a crash.
A claimant must prove the air bags didn't deploy in a crash involving one of
the 2.6 million older model recalled cars. Family members of those who died
are eligible for at least $1 million and the spouse or dependent of a
deceased victim will qualify for an additional $300,000. Accepting an offer
from GM means giving up the right to sue the automaker over the ignition
switch.
GM says along with the 29 deaths, the compensation fund has approved
payments related to 27 injuries.
不过这并不影响GM的销量,婊子媒体功不可没。
http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2012/10/general-motors-sales-figur
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A*i
2
这也算创造就业机会吧。
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s*d
3
嗯,律师事务所。拿30%也有30亿啊。

【在 A*****i 的大作中提到】
: 这也算创造就业机会吧。
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B*Z
4
反正丰田自动加速是一定的
---老色狼

leased
Camaro

【在 D***0 的大作中提到】
: 只想说一句:这要养活多少律师!!
: http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2014/gm-sued-10-billion-death
: October 21, 2014 — GM has been sued for $10 billion in two proposed class-
: action lawsuits that accuse the beleaguered automaker of causing a loss of
: value in 27 million General Motors vehicles.
: One lawsuit covers all GM vehicles bought or leased between July 11, 2009
: and July 3, 2014. The second lawsuit covers GM vehicles purchased or leased
: before July 11, 2009, and only those with ignition switch defects.
: According to the lawsuits, GM-branded vehicles started losing value in
: February 2014 and continue to do so, with an example of the 2010-2011 Camaro

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j*t
5

laoselang: 慢着,等我拿出我的“安全数据”来

【在 B*Z 的大作中提到】
: 反正丰田自动加速是一定的
: ---老色狼
:
: leased
: Camaro

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D*0
6
不过。看看toyota在自动加速门(09曝光)发生时候的销售影响
2008 2,217,660
2009 1,770,147
2010 1,763,595
2011 1,644,660
2012 2,082,504
2013 2,236,042
再看看GM今年的数据不降反升哦:
Month General Motors U.S. Sales 2013 General Motors U.S. Sales 2014
January 194,699 171,486
February 224,314 222,104
March  245,950 256,047
April  237,646 254,076
May  252,894 284,694
June 264,843 267,461
July  234,071 256,160
August  275,847 272,423
September 187,195 223,437
October 226,402 NA
November 212,060 NA
December 230,157 NA
婊子媒体功不可没。

【在 B*Z 的大作中提到】
: 反正丰田自动加速是一定的
: ---老色狼
:
: leased
: Camaro

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D*0
7
发现我的原帖还在,所以更新一下最近的进展。
GM ignition switch compensation fund approves 67 death claims and 113 injury
claims.
http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2015/gm-ignition-switch-death
To date, 67 death claims have been approved out of 475 submitted death
claims. GM says 129 death claims have been classified as ineligible, 113
claims are listed as deficient, 33 were submitted without documentation and
133 death claims are still under review.
另外现在GM从气囊到变速箱都被告了。买了GM的和打算买GM的还是长点心吧。
http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2015/general-motors-sued-defe

leased
Camaro

【在 D***0 的大作中提到】
: 只想说一句:这要养活多少律师!!
: http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2014/gm-sued-10-billion-death
: October 21, 2014 — GM has been sued for $10 billion in two proposed class-
: action lawsuits that accuse the beleaguered automaker of causing a loss of
: value in 27 million General Motors vehicles.
: One lawsuit covers all GM vehicles bought or leased between July 11, 2009
: and July 3, 2014. The second lawsuit covers GM vehicles purchased or leased
: before July 11, 2009, and only those with ignition switch defects.
: According to the lawsuits, GM-branded vehicles started losing value in
: February 2014 and continue to do so, with an example of the 2010-2011 Camaro

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l*5
8
坐等老色狼的评论

leased
Camaro

【在 D***0 的大作中提到】
: 只想说一句:这要养活多少律师!!
: http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2014/gm-sued-10-billion-death
: October 21, 2014 — GM has been sued for $10 billion in two proposed class-
: action lawsuits that accuse the beleaguered automaker of causing a loss of
: value in 27 million General Motors vehicles.
: One lawsuit covers all GM vehicles bought or leased between July 11, 2009
: and July 3, 2014. The second lawsuit covers GM vehicles purchased or leased
: before July 11, 2009, and only those with ignition switch defects.
: According to the lawsuits, GM-branded vehicles started losing value in
: February 2014 and continue to do so, with an example of the 2010-2011 Camaro

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f*t
9
还好了,本田少算了一千多条人命,这个和本田比只是毛毛雨。
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l*5
10
坐等本田顾问的评论

【在 f****t 的大作中提到】
: 还好了,本田少算了一千多条人命,这个和本田比只是毛毛雨。
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T*s
11
好车,赶紧抄底吧

injury
and

【在 D***0 的大作中提到】
: 发现我的原帖还在,所以更新一下最近的进展。
: GM ignition switch compensation fund approves 67 death claims and 113 injury
: claims.
: http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2015/gm-ignition-switch-death
: To date, 67 death claims have been approved out of 475 submitted death
: claims. GM says 129 death claims have been classified as ineligible, 113
: claims are listed as deficient, 33 were submitted without documentation and
: 133 death claims are still under review.
: 另外现在GM从气囊到变速箱都被告了。买了GM的和打算买GM的还是长点心吧。
: http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2015/general-motors-sued-defe

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l*g
12
丰田的是全系都有问题,无论新旧
gm的出问题的是老车,新车没这问题吧
而且当年丰田确认和自动加速有关的死亡就有100多个,还有95%的案例没核实

【在 D***0 的大作中提到】
: 不过。看看toyota在自动加速门(09曝光)发生时候的销售影响
: 2008 2,217,660
: 2009 1,770,147
: 2010 1,763,595
: 2011 1,644,660
: 2012 2,082,504
: 2013 2,236,042
: 再看看GM今年的数据不降反升哦:
: Month General Motors U.S. Sales 2013 General Motors U.S. Sales 2014
: January 194,699 171,486

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D*0
13
怎么又来卖丰田了?说GM呢。话说丰田这100个“确认”的,是丰田自己调查之后承认
的么?没查证过。不过我也不关心。没打算买过丰田的车子。

【在 l*******g 的大作中提到】
: 丰田的是全系都有问题,无论新旧
: gm的出问题的是老车,新车没这问题吧
: 而且当年丰田确认和自动加速有关的死亡就有100多个,还有95%的案例没核实

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B*X
15
美车三大里,通用是最不厚道的。不过毕竟这个世界上傻逼是大多数
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D*0
16
接着更新, 目前确定90起死亡事件。
http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2015/general-motors-90-death-
目前的进展是
*Death Claims
Total Death Claims: 475
Eligible: 90
Ineligible: 193
Deficient: 123
Under Review: 46
Submitted With No Documentation: 23
*Category One Injury Claims (Quadriplegia, paraplegia, double amputation,
permanent brain damage and serious burns)
Total Category One Injury Claims: 289
Eligible: 11
Ineligible: 123
Deficient: 54
Under Review: 79
Submitted With No Documentation: 22
*Category Two Injury Claims (Injuries that required medical treatment within
48 hours of the accident)
Total Category Two Injury Claims: 3,578
Eligible: 152
Ineligible: 1104
Deficient: 1004
Under Review: 872
Submitted With No Documentation: 446
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Total Death and Injury Claims: 4,342
Eligible: 253
Ineligible: 1420
Deficient: 1181
Under Review: 997
Submitted With No Documentation: 491
不过呢。最近Federal court认定new GM对old GM可以不负责。于是
The court decision effectively means most customers who sued GM now won't
have a leg to stand on in court. It also means less of an incentive for GM
to pay compensation to alleged victims because GM knows those victims can't
sue.
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Y*a
17

老色狼这种正义之士,怎么就不黑GM呢???

【在 D***0 的大作中提到】
: 接着更新, 目前确定90起死亡事件。
: http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2015/general-motors-90-death-
: 目前的进展是
: *Death Claims
: Total Death Claims: 475
: Eligible: 90
: Ineligible: 193
: Deficient: 123
: Under Review: 46
: Submitted With No Documentation: 23

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D*0
18
继续更新 104起核实的致死案件。另外"New GM"也被起诉了,见:
http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2015/lawsuit-gm-death-tanner-
对于不了解这个事件的,简单来说,就是跟toyota自动加速相反的一种故障,行驶中
key会转离on而造成车辆熄火,后果是失控,各种助力消失,安全气囊不会弹出。
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Death Claims
Total Death Claims: 474
Eligible: 104
Ineligible: 244
Deficient: 97
Under Review: 26
Submitted With No Documentation: 3
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Category One Injury Claims (Quadriplegia, paraplegia, double amputation,
permanent brain damage and serious burns)
Total Category One Injury Claims: 289
Eligible: 12
Ineligible: 165
Deficient: 58
Under Review: 52
Submitted With No Documentation: 2
---
Category Two Injury Claims (Injuries that required medical treatment within
48 hours of the accident)
Total Category Two Injury Claims: 3,579
Eligible: 179
Ineligible: 1685
Deficient: 1223
Under Review: 417
Submitted With No Documentation: 75
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Total Death and Injury Claims: 4,342
Eligible: 295
Ineligible: 2094
Deficient: 1378
Under Review: 495
Submitted With No Documentation: 80

【在 D***0 的大作中提到】
: 接着更新, 目前确定90起死亡事件。
: http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2015/general-motors-90-death-
: 目前的进展是
: *Death Claims
: Total Death Claims: 475
: Eligible: 90
: Ineligible: 193
: Deficient: 123
: Under Review: 46
: Submitted With No Documentation: 23

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I*I
19
太吓人了。
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T*U
20
GM找到原因,Toyota自动加速都没找到原因,跟中奖一样,那才吓人。

【在 I******I 的大作中提到】
: 太吓人了。
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f*t
22
还是丰田厉害,29刀就能和用户生死两讫了,GM的公关太差了。

leased
Camaro

【在 D***0 的大作中提到】
: 只想说一句:这要养活多少律师!!
: http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2014/gm-sued-10-billion-death
: October 21, 2014 — GM has been sued for $10 billion in two proposed class-
: action lawsuits that accuse the beleaguered automaker of causing a loss of
: value in 27 million General Motors vehicles.
: One lawsuit covers all GM vehicles bought or leased between July 11, 2009
: and July 3, 2014. The second lawsuit covers GM vehicles purchased or leased
: before July 11, 2009, and only those with ignition switch defects.
: According to the lawsuits, GM-branded vehicles started losing value in
: February 2014 and continue to do so, with an example of the 2010-2011 Camaro

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D*0
23
那个是resale value经济损失的settlement,不包括人身伤害,死亡和财产损失。不要
传播错误信息。如果有人因为自动加速挂了,请勇敢地去告吧~

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【在 f****t 的大作中提到】
: 还是丰田厉害,29刀就能和用户生死两讫了,GM的公关太差了。
:
: leased
: Camaro

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D*0
26
无事更新一下。 474起调查的致死索赔,117起调查核实,比率为24.68%。GM的在北美
市场占有率怎么也得排第一吧。那么到底因此事死了几千人呢?
来源: http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2015/gm-ignition-switches-killed-117-people.shtml
Death Claims
Total Death Claims: 474
Eligible: 117
Ineligible: 287
Deficient: 54
Under Review: 16
Submitted With No Documentation: 0
Category One Injury Claims (Quadriplegia, paraplegia, double amputation,
permanent brain damage and serious burns)
Total Category One Injury Claims: 289
Eligible: 13
Ineligible: 198
Deficient: 51
Under Review: 27
Submitted With No Documentation: 0
Category Two Injury Claims (Injuries that required medical treatment within
48 hours of the accident)
Total Category Two Injury Claims: 3,579
Eligible: 224
Ineligible: 2389
Deficient: 930
Under Review: 36
Submitted With No Documentation: 0
Total Death and Injury Claims: 4,342
Eligible: 354
Ineligible: 2874
Deficient: 1035
Under Review: 79
Submitted With No Documentation: 0
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a*o
28
2008年主要是金融危机的打击,后来福岛地震又造成产能不足。丰田销量其实没受诉讼
影响。

【在 D***0 的大作中提到】
: 不过。看看toyota在自动加速门(09曝光)发生时候的销售影响
: 2008 2,217,660
: 2009 1,770,147
: 2010 1,763,595
: 2011 1,644,660
: 2012 2,082,504
: 2013 2,236,042
: 再看看GM今年的数据不降反升哦:
: Month General Motors U.S. Sales 2013 General Motors U.S. Sales 2014
: January 194,699 171,486

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a*r
29
看来开3-5或5-8年旧的车危险性小点。
让前人趟趟水再说?
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