团购：2015/2016 Honda Odyssey @ Washington DC area# Automobile - 车轮上的传奇
J*0
1 楼
生个女儿最好了就是能够常常给鲜艳的衣服，打扮打扮，搞搞怪。
EASTER快到了，这个兔年小宝贝一定也要戴个兔子耳朵。
EASTER快到了，这个兔年小宝贝一定也要戴个兔子耳朵。
T*m
2 楼
is there anybody interested?
h*a
3 楼
表情太萌了。
f*r
4 楼
奧德賽是絕世好車。專門登錄上來訂貼支持
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: is there anybody interested?
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: is there anybody interested?
J*0
5 楼
呵呵，就是趣怪多多，才觉得一张大头照不够用，得拼起来才能看的清楚。
f*t
6 楼
这车越团越贵，要悄悄地进村，打枪的不要，小二会在村口接应。
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: is there anybody interested?
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: is there anybody interested?
l*u
7 楼
表情太丰富了.
f*r
8 楼
是真的，還是你嫉妒別人買奧德賽，存心搞破壞？
我就不信，你拿著一個Quote，跑過去說買三輛車，車行會不賣
【在 f***t 的大作中提到】
: 这车越团越贵，要悄悄地进村，打枪的不要，小二会在村口接应。
我就不信，你拿著一個Quote，跑過去說買三輛車，車行會不賣
【在 f***t 的大作中提到】
: 这车越团越贵，要悄悄地进村，打枪的不要，小二会在村口接应。
i*f
9 楼
举手报个名
[在 TanMom (坛儿) 的大作中提到：]
：is there anybody interested?
[在 TanMom (坛儿) 的大作中提到：]
：is there anybody interested?
s*f
10 楼
I am interested! I want to buy EXL, please add me!
S*5
11 楼
感兴趣
g*h
12 楼
Hi 你好，
还在团购Odyssey么， 加我一个。
想买EXL，不过好像15年的没了吧。
多谢，
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: is there anybody interested?
还在团购Odyssey么， 加我一个。
想买EXL，不过好像15年的没了吧。
多谢，
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: is there anybody interested?
T*m
13 楼
I want to buy EXL too. Yes, 2015 is almost gone. We might have to buy 2016.
f*r
14 楼
贊
贊三遍
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: I want to buy EXL too. Yes, 2015 is almost gone. We might have to buy 2016.
贊三遍
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: I want to buy EXL too. Yes, 2015 is almost gone. We might have to buy 2016.
t*y
15 楼
有兴趣，发信了。请查收
T*m
16 楼
The list
1 TanMom
2 ifnoif
3 shingoxlf
4 sp05
5 geekfish
6 tinglily
Let us share the quota that you get it from your dealer, and then we can
have the best price.
Just a start, I have
The pricing on the great 2016 Odyssey EX-L is as following:
OTD is about $35000
1 TanMom
2 ifnoif
3 shingoxlf
4 sp05
5 geekfish
6 tinglily
Let us share the quota that you get it from your dealer, and then we can
have the best price.
Just a start, I have
The pricing on the great 2016 Odyssey EX-L is as following:
OTD is about $35000
T*m
17 楼
The list
1 TanMom
2 ifnoif
3 shingoxlf
4 sp05
5 geekfish
6 tinglily
Let us share the quota that you get it from your dealer, and then we can
have the best price.
Just a start, I have
The pricing on the great 2016 Odyssey EX-L is as following:
OTD is about $35000
1 TanMom
2 ifnoif
3 shingoxlf
4 sp05
5 geekfish
6 tinglily
Let us share the quota that you get it from your dealer, and then we can
have the best price.
Just a start, I have
The pricing on the great 2016 Odyssey EX-L is as following:
OTD is about $35000
t*y
18 楼
WOW, that is a lot. last time (about couple weeks ago), I got a quote of
2015 EXL OTD about $30000. I will check with this dealer again about the
2016 model.
Thanks
2015 EXL OTD about $30000. I will check with this dealer again about the
2016 model.
Thanks
t*o
19 楼
Count me in!
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: The list
: 1 TanMom
: 2 ifnoif
: 3 shingoxlf
: 4 sp05
: 5 geekfish
: 6 tinglily
: Let us share the quota that you get it from your dealer, and then we can
: have the best price.
: Just a start, I have
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: The list
: 1 TanMom
: 2 ifnoif
: 3 shingoxlf
: 4 sp05
: 5 geekfish
: 6 tinglily
: Let us share the quota that you get it from your dealer, and then we can
: have the best price.
: Just a start, I have
g*h
20 楼
NJ 有人买的 2016 Exl OTD $34k
l*n
21 楼
count me in, 有兴趣，发信了。
t*o
22 楼
Is it a typo? 2015 EXL OTD about $30000? Did u mean EX?
【在 t******y 的大作中提到】
: WOW, that is a lot. last time (about couple weeks ago), I got a quote of
: 2015 EXL OTD about $30000. I will check with this dealer again about the
: 2016 model.
: Thanks
【在 t******y 的大作中提到】
: WOW, that is a lot. last time (about couple weeks ago), I got a quote of
: 2015 EXL OTD about $30000. I will check with this dealer again about the
: 2016 model.
: Thanks
g*h
23 楼
今天shockley honda 报价 otd $36,394.82
t*y
24 楼
you are right, I checked back it is for EX model.
【在 t*******o 的大作中提到】
: Is it a typo? 2015 EXL OTD about $30000? Did u mean EX?
【在 t*******o 的大作中提到】
: Is it a typo? 2015 EXL OTD about $30000? Did u mean EX?
t*y
25 楼
I got a quote from Germantown Crowell for EXL, it is 35808
T*m
26 楼
Thank you for all! Let us work together to find a good price.
t*y
27 楼
based on my discussion with the dealer. we won't get the best quote until we
show up in the dealership. So when will be a good time for everyone?
show up in the dealership. So when will be a good time for everyone?
T*m
28 楼
I think we go until we find a fair price, and then we show up as a group,
and get more discount..
and get more discount..
T*m
29 楼
I think we go until we find a fair price, and then we show up as a group,
and get more discount..
and get more discount..
t*y
30 楼
sounds good, the best quote I got so far is $35808. the salesman does not
want to discuss more until I show up there.
When are you all planning to buy the car, I am thinking before Thanksgiving
the latest.
want to discuss more until I show up there.
When are you all planning to buy the car, I am thinking before Thanksgiving
the latest.
T*m
31 楼
Almost same price as I got from Germantown dealers. So weird that I have
not got other quota from other dealers, they always want you come to talk...
not got other quota from other dealers, they always want you come to talk...
T*m
32 楼
$31,795.00 +* $300 Processing Fee + $820 + $31,795.00*6% = 35013.5
A new quote
A new quote
s*8
33 楼
数字不对啊？
31795 + 300 + 820 + 31795*0.06 = 34822？
另外前几天brotherband 在MD拿到OTD 34750. 送两次换机油。
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: $31,795.00 +* $300 Processing Fee + $820 + $31,795.00*6% = 35013.5
: A new quote
31795 + 300 + 820 + 31795*0.06 = 34822？
另外前几天brotherband 在MD拿到OTD 34750. 送两次换机油。
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: $31,795.00 +* $300 Processing Fee + $820 + $31,795.00*6% = 35013.5
: A new quote
t*y
34 楼
您们就别折腾了。。。
270沿线不会有好价格的。
Baltimore北，laurel, college park, 问几个价，找家低的从了吧，最多就2、3百的
区别。
或者去北维，价低些，但是麻烦。
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: $31,795.00 +* $300 Processing Fee + $820 + $31,795.00*6% = 35013.5
: A new quote
270沿线不会有好价格的。
Baltimore北，laurel, college park, 问几个价，找家低的从了吧，最多就2、3百的
区别。
或者去北维，价低些，但是麻烦。
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: $31,795.00 +* $300 Processing Fee + $820 + $31,795.00*6% = 35013.5
: A new quote
t*y
35 楼
人去绝对是从了，不可能是低价
Thanksgiving
【在 t******y 的大作中提到】
: sounds good, the best quote I got so far is $35808. the salesman does not
: want to discuss more until I show up there.
: When are you all planning to buy the car, I am thinking before Thanksgiving
: the latest.
Thanksgiving
【在 t******y 的大作中提到】
: sounds good, the best quote I got so far is $35808. the salesman does not
: want to discuss more until I show up there.
: When are you all planning to buy the car, I am thinking before Thanksgiving
: the latest.
g*h
36 楼
34600怎么样？
T*m
37 楼
I got a 34707 too, our goal is 34000. Try to ask the dealer if they can do
that. I emailed them, no reply yet for 34000.
that. I emailed them, no reply yet for 34000.
i*f
38 楼
我们上周末去了Bowie那家，试驾了一下，他们不肯给报价，除非那天就准备买
带我们看车的那人倒挺实在的，还说一般月底能拿到比较好的价钱。可惜这个月底是周
末，恐怕不是最好的时机。
[在 TanMom (坛儿) 的大作中提到：]
：I got a 34707 too, our goal is 34000. Try to ask the dealer if they can do
：that. I emailed them, no reply yet for 34000.
：...........
带我们看车的那人倒挺实在的，还说一般月底能拿到比较好的价钱。可惜这个月底是周
末，恐怕不是最好的时机。
[在 TanMom (坛儿) 的大作中提到：]
：I got a 34707 too, our goal is 34000. Try to ask the dealer if they can do
：that. I emailed them, no reply yet for 34000.
：...........
t*y
39 楼
我的ACCORD就是月底加季度底，还是周末在NORTH VA的HONDA DULLUS买的，准备再没有
好的报价，就月底再去那试试。
do
【在 i****f 的大作中提到】
: 我们上周末去了Bowie那家，试驾了一下，他们不肯给报价，除非那天就准备买
: 带我们看车的那人倒挺实在的，还说一般月底能拿到比较好的价钱。可惜这个月底是周
: 末，恐怕不是最好的时机。
: [在 TanMom (坛儿) 的大作中提到：]
: ：I got a 34707 too, our goal is 34000. Try to ask the dealer if they can do
: ：that. I emailed them, no reply yet for 34000.
: ：...........
好的报价，就月底再去那试试。
do
【在 i****f 的大作中提到】
: 我们上周末去了Bowie那家，试驾了一下，他们不肯给报价，除非那天就准备买
: 带我们看车的那人倒挺实在的，还说一般月底能拿到比较好的价钱。可惜这个月底是周
: 末，恐怕不是最好的时机。
: [在 TanMom (坛儿) 的大作中提到：]
: ：I got a 34707 too, our goal is 34000. Try to ask the dealer if they can do
: ：that. I emailed them, no reply yet for 34000.
: ：...........
g*h
40 楼
$34.2k, 可以了吧？
f*o
41 楼
纯浪费时间。 每个人口味不一，能接受价位不一。 一次买几辆车配置价钱可能也不一
样。 车行那么凑巧要同时有N辆车同时符合一切要求几乎不可能。
美国人工是比较贵的。不像国内可以不计人工跟你长期扯淡。
样。 车行那么凑巧要同时有N辆车同时符合一切要求几乎不可能。
美国人工是比较贵的。不像国内可以不计人工跟你长期扯淡。
X*9
42 楼
是的，美国不是中国，团购没啥优势
我知道的特定时间段内的特别低的价格没有一个是团购来的。
都是某个人某个天时地利人和的凑巧拿到的one time only deal。即这个价不会卖给第
2个人。如果还能卖给一个团，那么那个价格绝不是最“低”的。
那么问题又来了，也许团购的人不是为了追求所谓最低价，而是一个合理价，那么上网
查fair purchase price即可，又何必费时费力搞团购呢？
【在 f****o 的大作中提到】
: 纯浪费时间。 每个人口味不一，能接受价位不一。 一次买几辆车配置价钱可能也不一
: 样。 车行那么凑巧要同时有N辆车同时符合一切要求几乎不可能。
: 美国人工是比较贵的。不像国内可以不计人工跟你长期扯淡。
e*u
43 楼
应该直接说团购多少量，最多出多少。dealer卖得多，也许会便宜些。
t*o
44 楼
请问这是在哪家拿到的？
【在 g******h 的大作中提到】
: $34.2k, 可以了吧？
【在 g******h 的大作中提到】
: $34.2k, 可以了吧？
T*m
45 楼
is there anybody interested?
f*r
46 楼
奧德賽是絕世好車。專門登錄上來訂貼支持
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: is there anybody interested?
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: is there anybody interested?
f*t
47 楼
这车越团越贵，要悄悄地进村，打枪的不要，小二会在村口接应。
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: is there anybody interested?
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: is there anybody interested?
f*r
48 楼
是真的，還是你嫉妒別人買奧德賽，存心搞破壞？
我就不信，你拿著一個Quote，跑過去說買三輛車，車行會不賣
【在 f***t 的大作中提到】
: 这车越团越贵，要悄悄地进村，打枪的不要，小二会在村口接应。
我就不信，你拿著一個Quote，跑過去說買三輛車，車行會不賣
【在 f***t 的大作中提到】
: 这车越团越贵，要悄悄地进村，打枪的不要，小二会在村口接应。
i*f
49 楼
举手报个名
[在 TanMom (坛儿) 的大作中提到：]
：is there anybody interested?
[在 TanMom (坛儿) 的大作中提到：]
：is there anybody interested?
s*f
50 楼
I am interested! I want to buy EXL, please add me!
S*5
51 楼
感兴趣
g*h
52 楼
Hi 你好，
还在团购Odyssey么， 加我一个。
想买EXL，不过好像15年的没了吧。
多谢，
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: is there anybody interested?
还在团购Odyssey么， 加我一个。
想买EXL，不过好像15年的没了吧。
多谢，
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: is there anybody interested?
T*m
53 楼
I want to buy EXL too. Yes, 2015 is almost gone. We might have to buy 2016.
f*r
54 楼
贊
贊三遍
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: I want to buy EXL too. Yes, 2015 is almost gone. We might have to buy 2016.
贊三遍
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: I want to buy EXL too. Yes, 2015 is almost gone. We might have to buy 2016.
t*y
55 楼
有兴趣，发信了。请查收
T*m
56 楼
The list
1 TanMom
2 ifnoif
3 shingoxlf
4 sp05
5 geekfish
6 tinglily
Let us share the quota that you get it from your dealer, and then we can
have the best price.
Just a start, I have
The pricing on the great 2016 Odyssey EX-L is as following:
OTD is about $35000
1 TanMom
2 ifnoif
3 shingoxlf
4 sp05
5 geekfish
6 tinglily
Let us share the quota that you get it from your dealer, and then we can
have the best price.
Just a start, I have
The pricing on the great 2016 Odyssey EX-L is as following:
OTD is about $35000
T*m
57 楼
The list
1 TanMom
2 ifnoif
3 shingoxlf
4 sp05
5 geekfish
6 tinglily
Let us share the quota that you get it from your dealer, and then we can
have the best price.
Just a start, I have
The pricing on the great 2016 Odyssey EX-L is as following:
OTD is about $35000
1 TanMom
2 ifnoif
3 shingoxlf
4 sp05
5 geekfish
6 tinglily
Let us share the quota that you get it from your dealer, and then we can
have the best price.
Just a start, I have
The pricing on the great 2016 Odyssey EX-L is as following:
OTD is about $35000
t*y
58 楼
WOW, that is a lot. last time (about couple weeks ago), I got a quote of
2015 EXL OTD about $30000. I will check with this dealer again about the
2016 model.
Thanks
2015 EXL OTD about $30000. I will check with this dealer again about the
2016 model.
Thanks
t*o
59 楼
Count me in!
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: The list
: 1 TanMom
: 2 ifnoif
: 3 shingoxlf
: 4 sp05
: 5 geekfish
: 6 tinglily
: Let us share the quota that you get it from your dealer, and then we can
: have the best price.
: Just a start, I have
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: The list
: 1 TanMom
: 2 ifnoif
: 3 shingoxlf
: 4 sp05
: 5 geekfish
: 6 tinglily
: Let us share the quota that you get it from your dealer, and then we can
: have the best price.
: Just a start, I have
g*h
60 楼
NJ 有人买的 2016 Exl OTD $34k
l*n
61 楼
count me in, 有兴趣，发信了。
t*o
62 楼
Is it a typo? 2015 EXL OTD about $30000? Did u mean EX?
【在 t******y 的大作中提到】
: WOW, that is a lot. last time (about couple weeks ago), I got a quote of
: 2015 EXL OTD about $30000. I will check with this dealer again about the
: 2016 model.
: Thanks
【在 t******y 的大作中提到】
: WOW, that is a lot. last time (about couple weeks ago), I got a quote of
: 2015 EXL OTD about $30000. I will check with this dealer again about the
: 2016 model.
: Thanks
g*h
63 楼
今天shockley honda 报价 otd $36,394.82
t*y
64 楼
you are right, I checked back it is for EX model.
【在 t*******o 的大作中提到】
: Is it a typo? 2015 EXL OTD about $30000? Did u mean EX?
【在 t*******o 的大作中提到】
: Is it a typo? 2015 EXL OTD about $30000? Did u mean EX?
t*y
65 楼
I got a quote from Germantown Crowell for EXL, it is 35808
T*m
66 楼
Thank you for all! Let us work together to find a good price.
t*y
67 楼
based on my discussion with the dealer. we won't get the best quote until we
show up in the dealership. So when will be a good time for everyone?
show up in the dealership. So when will be a good time for everyone?
T*m
68 楼
I think we go until we find a fair price, and then we show up as a group,
and get more discount..
and get more discount..
T*m
69 楼
I think we go until we find a fair price, and then we show up as a group,
and get more discount..
and get more discount..
t*y
70 楼
sounds good, the best quote I got so far is $35808. the salesman does not
want to discuss more until I show up there.
When are you all planning to buy the car, I am thinking before Thanksgiving
the latest.
want to discuss more until I show up there.
When are you all planning to buy the car, I am thinking before Thanksgiving
the latest.
T*m
71 楼
Almost same price as I got from Germantown dealers. So weird that I have
not got other quota from other dealers, they always want you come to talk...
not got other quota from other dealers, they always want you come to talk...
T*m
72 楼
$31,795.00 +* $300 Processing Fee + $820 + $31,795.00*6% = 35013.5
A new quote
A new quote
s*8
73 楼
数字不对啊？
31795 + 300 + 820 + 31795*0.06 = 34822？
另外前几天brotherband 在MD拿到OTD 34750. 送两次换机油。
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: $31,795.00 +* $300 Processing Fee + $820 + $31,795.00*6% = 35013.5
: A new quote
31795 + 300 + 820 + 31795*0.06 = 34822？
另外前几天brotherband 在MD拿到OTD 34750. 送两次换机油。
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: $31,795.00 +* $300 Processing Fee + $820 + $31,795.00*6% = 35013.5
: A new quote
t*y
74 楼
您们就别折腾了。。。
270沿线不会有好价格的。
Baltimore北，laurel, college park, 问几个价，找家低的从了吧，最多就2、3百的
区别。
或者去北维，价低些，但是麻烦。
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: $31,795.00 +* $300 Processing Fee + $820 + $31,795.00*6% = 35013.5
: A new quote
270沿线不会有好价格的。
Baltimore北，laurel, college park, 问几个价，找家低的从了吧，最多就2、3百的
区别。
或者去北维，价低些，但是麻烦。
【在 T****m 的大作中提到】
: $31,795.00 +* $300 Processing Fee + $820 + $31,795.00*6% = 35013.5
: A new quote
t*y
75 楼
人去绝对是从了，不可能是低价
Thanksgiving
【在 t******y 的大作中提到】
: sounds good, the best quote I got so far is $35808. the salesman does not
: want to discuss more until I show up there.
: When are you all planning to buy the car, I am thinking before Thanksgiving
: the latest.
Thanksgiving
【在 t******y 的大作中提到】
: sounds good, the best quote I got so far is $35808. the salesman does not
: want to discuss more until I show up there.
: When are you all planning to buy the car, I am thinking before Thanksgiving
: the latest.
g*h
76 楼
34600怎么样？
T*m
77 楼
I got a 34707 too, our goal is 34000. Try to ask the dealer if they can do
that. I emailed them, no reply yet for 34000.
that. I emailed them, no reply yet for 34000.
i*f
78 楼
我们上周末去了Bowie那家，试驾了一下，他们不肯给报价，除非那天就准备买
带我们看车的那人倒挺实在的，还说一般月底能拿到比较好的价钱。可惜这个月底是周
末，恐怕不是最好的时机。
[在 TanMom (坛儿) 的大作中提到：]
：I got a 34707 too, our goal is 34000. Try to ask the dealer if they can do
：that. I emailed them, no reply yet for 34000.
：...........
带我们看车的那人倒挺实在的，还说一般月底能拿到比较好的价钱。可惜这个月底是周
末，恐怕不是最好的时机。
[在 TanMom (坛儿) 的大作中提到：]
：I got a 34707 too, our goal is 34000. Try to ask the dealer if they can do
：that. I emailed them, no reply yet for 34000.
：...........
t*y
79 楼
我的ACCORD就是月底加季度底，还是周末在NORTH VA的HONDA DULLUS买的，准备再没有
好的报价，就月底再去那试试。
do
【在 i****f 的大作中提到】
: 我们上周末去了Bowie那家，试驾了一下，他们不肯给报价，除非那天就准备买
: 带我们看车的那人倒挺实在的，还说一般月底能拿到比较好的价钱。可惜这个月底是周
: 末，恐怕不是最好的时机。
: [在 TanMom (坛儿) 的大作中提到：]
: ：I got a 34707 too, our goal is 34000. Try to ask the dealer if they can do
: ：that. I emailed them, no reply yet for 34000.
: ：...........
好的报价，就月底再去那试试。
do
【在 i****f 的大作中提到】
: 我们上周末去了Bowie那家，试驾了一下，他们不肯给报价，除非那天就准备买
: 带我们看车的那人倒挺实在的，还说一般月底能拿到比较好的价钱。可惜这个月底是周
: 末，恐怕不是最好的时机。
: [在 TanMom (坛儿) 的大作中提到：]
: ：I got a 34707 too, our goal is 34000. Try to ask the dealer if they can do
: ：that. I emailed them, no reply yet for 34000.
: ：...........
g*h
80 楼
$34.2k, 可以了吧？
f*o
81 楼
纯浪费时间。 每个人口味不一，能接受价位不一。 一次买几辆车配置价钱可能也不一
样。 车行那么凑巧要同时有N辆车同时符合一切要求几乎不可能。
美国人工是比较贵的。不像国内可以不计人工跟你长期扯淡。
样。 车行那么凑巧要同时有N辆车同时符合一切要求几乎不可能。
美国人工是比较贵的。不像国内可以不计人工跟你长期扯淡。
X*9
82 楼
是的，美国不是中国，团购没啥优势
我知道的特定时间段内的特别低的价格没有一个是团购来的。
都是某个人某个天时地利人和的凑巧拿到的one time only deal。即这个价不会卖给第
2个人。如果还能卖给一个团，那么那个价格绝不是最“低”的。
那么问题又来了，也许团购的人不是为了追求所谓最低价，而是一个合理价，那么上网
查fair purchase price即可，又何必费时费力搞团购呢？
【在 f****o 的大作中提到】
: 纯浪费时间。 每个人口味不一，能接受价位不一。 一次买几辆车配置价钱可能也不一
: 样。 车行那么凑巧要同时有N辆车同时符合一切要求几乎不可能。
: 美国人工是比较贵的。不像国内可以不计人工跟你长期扯淡。
e*u
83 楼
应该直接说团购多少量，最多出多少。dealer卖得多，也许会便宜些。
t*o
84 楼
请问这是在哪家拿到的？
【在 g******h 的大作中提到】
: $34.2k, 可以了吧？
【在 g******h 的大作中提到】
: $34.2k, 可以了吧？
t*y
85 楼
we bought the EX on Saturday 30850 OTD at the Honda Dulles dealership.
t*o
86 楼
今天买了16 Odyssey EXL. $33,950 OTD, registered in MD. 60month 1.9% APR. 供
还没买的兄弟参考。
还没买的兄弟参考。
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