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北大清华开始重视系统生物学了 (jobs)-a good sign for China# Biology - 生物学
n*e
1
就是几个月前,新账户网上开户那个
大致要求如下:
minimum balance of $500
The new checking account must be open for at least 30 days
You must make a minimum of one transaction with the newly assigned check
card
The $100 bonus will be credited to your account within 90 days.
To open a new checking account, apply online or go to a banking center and
reference offer code AOU261109
This offer is available until Jan. 31, 2010,
银行突然告诉我promotion被decline了,大电话过去问,具体原因他们supervisor页不
知道,只看到我的账户没有meet recquirement,系统里也已经没有该promotio
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s*l
2
1. An ads from Nature:
Principal Investigator : Beijing, China
Employer:
Peking University
Location:
Beijing, China
Type:
Assistant Professor
Posted:
August 16, 2010
Expires:
August 15, 2011
Requisition number:
None
Science jobs from Peking University: job description
Applications are invited for multiple Principal Investigator (PI) positions
at the Center for Bioinformatics in the College of Life Sciences of Peking
University in the fields of bioinformatics, computationa
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n*9
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我有当时网页的pdf
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s*l
4
清华生命学院和医学院根本就没有系统生物学,美国一流大学几年前就搞系统生物学,现
在美国二流大学开始搞系统生物学initiatives.北大清华离世界一流大学有多远,很大
程度是vision问题.
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n*9
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我有当时网页的pdf
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l*u
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所谓系统生物学, 其实就是一个概念, 研究理念, 严格讲不能算一个学科,
说不好听点就是捣浆糊的, 没啥新意.
几十年来人们研究生态就是用系统生物学的理念.
现在比较热主要是因为高通量和定量技术的迅猛发展
(microarray, silac, next generation sequencing等),
quantitative 和 modeling 是当代系统生物学的两个重要的方面.
(其实定量技术还差太远, 还远不能满足做modeling的需要, 而且
高等生物的modeling简直就是不可能, 玩玩酵母,e.coli 可能还马马虎虎)
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n*e
7
给你站内发信了,麻烦发一份到我信箱,谢谢

【在 n*********9 的大作中提到】
: 我有当时网页的pdf
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p*r
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主要是招不到人的问题。系统生物学的人在harvard如果能轻易拿到位置,总的来说不
会去国内。 而且你看看,现在比较成熟的做系统生物学的学者中,有几个中国人?
不过我准备搞系统生物学。

【在 s******l 的大作中提到】
: 清华生命学院和医学院根本就没有系统生物学,美国一流大学几年前就搞系统生物学,现
: 在美国二流大学开始搞系统生物学initiatives.北大清华离世界一流大学有多远,很大
: 程度是vision问题.

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l*e
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还有没有类似的offer,打算开一个Bank of America的checking,没有他家的信用卡。
谢谢!
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l*u
10
UCSD (Ludwig)的 Ren Bing 做的还不错, 他做的算是systems biology 的一个方向
integrative genomics.

【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
:
: 主要是招不到人的问题。系统生物学的人在harvard如果能轻易拿到位置,总的来说不
: 会去国内。 而且你看看,现在比较成熟的做系统生物学的学者中,有几个中国人?
: 不过我准备搞系统生物学。

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d*1
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主要是系统生物学做的好的,一半最后都上街了。

【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
:
: 主要是招不到人的问题。系统生物学的人在harvard如果能轻易拿到位置,总的来说不
: 会去国内。 而且你看看,现在比较成熟的做系统生物学的学者中,有几个中国人?
: 不过我准备搞系统生物学。

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l*u
12
数学学得好的都不一定能上街呢.

【在 d******1 的大作中提到】
: 主要是系统生物学做的好的,一半最后都上街了。
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p*r
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嗯,谢谢。 希望能多推荐几个。至少我可以吹吹风,看他们能不能来至少做个兼职嘛。

【在 l******u 的大作中提到】
: UCSD (Ludwig)的 Ren Bing 做的还不错, 他做的算是systems biology 的一个方向
: integrative genomics.

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w*y
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hehe, 他就是一招鲜而已

【在 l******u 的大作中提到】
: UCSD (Ludwig)的 Ren Bing 做的还不错, 他做的算是systems biology 的一个方向
: integrative genomics.

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w*y
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呵呵,不是vision的问题
国内院系级的科研领导, 对什么hot还多少了解一点的
5年前绕子和就在生物物理所搞了systems biology program
只是根本不可能找到小牛级别的人

【在 s******l 的大作中提到】
: 清华生命学院和医学院根本就没有系统生物学,美国一流大学几年前就搞系统生物学,现
: 在美国二流大学开始搞系统生物学initiatives.北大清华离世界一流大学有多远,很大
: 程度是vision问题.

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G*G
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you guys are here talking about system biology.
please forgive my ignorance.
could one of you tell us what is exactly difference between 'biology' and
'system biology'?
can we make another new words such as 'system chemistry',
'system computing', 'system physics', or 'system software'?

【在 l******u 的大作中提到】
: 所谓系统生物学, 其实就是一个概念, 研究理念, 严格讲不能算一个学科,
: 说不好听点就是捣浆糊的, 没啥新意.
: 几十年来人们研究生态就是用系统生物学的理念.
: 现在比较热主要是因为高通量和定量技术的迅猛发展
: (microarray, silac, next generation sequencing等),
: quantitative 和 modeling 是当代系统生物学的两个重要的方面.
: (其实定量技术还差太远, 还远不能满足做modeling的需要, 而且
: 高等生物的modeling简直就是不可能, 玩玩酵母,e.coli 可能还马马虎虎)

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G*G
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what does 'system biology' mean?

【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: 嗯,谢谢。 希望能多推荐几个。至少我可以吹吹风,看他们能不能来至少做个兼职嘛。
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e*n
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ren bing 就是 chip-chip 而已吧

【在 l******u 的大作中提到】
: UCSD (Ludwig)的 Ren Bing 做的还不错, 他做的算是systems biology 的一个方向
: integrative genomics.

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w*e
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从seattle那个ISB抄来的.呵呵
Systems biology is the study of an organism, viewed as an integrated and
interacting network of genes, proteins and biochemical reactions which give
rise to life. Instead of analyzing individual components or aspects of the
organism, such as sugar metabolism or a cell nucleus, systems biologists
focus on all the components and the interactions among them, all as part of
one system. These interactions are ultimately responsible for an organism&
acute;s form and functions. For
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e*n
20
Douglas Lauffenburger:
Systems biology is different things to different people. One definition,
from Lee Hood’s Institute for Systems Biology [Ideker et al., 2001], is: “
Systems Biology does not investigate individual genes or proteins one at a
time, as has been the highly successful mode of biology for the past 30
years. Rather, it investigates the behavior and relationships of all the
elements in a particular biological system while it is functioning.” A
second, from the US National Institute

【在 w***e 的大作中提到】
: 从seattle那个ISB抄来的.呵呵
: Systems biology is the study of an organism, viewed as an integrated and
: interacting network of genes, proteins and biochemical reactions which give
: rise to life. Instead of analyzing individual components or aspects of the
: organism, such as sugar metabolism or a cell nucleus, systems biologists
: focus on all the components and the interactions among them, all as part of
: one system. These interactions are ultimately responsible for an organism&
: acute;s form and functions. For

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G*G
21
based on the two definitions, what is in my mind now is
'system biology is a biology which focus on interaction, pathway, or
something
similar'.
Actually, a lot of labs are doing this kind of research, but they just
didn't call themselves as 'system biology lab'.

Douglas Lauffenburger:
Systems biology is different things to different people. One definition,
from Lee Hood’s Institute for Systems Biology [Ideker et al., 2001], is: “
Systems Biology does not investigate individual genes or protein

【在 e*n 的大作中提到】
: Douglas Lauffenburger:
: Systems biology is different things to different people. One definition,
: from Lee Hood’s Institute for Systems Biology [Ideker et al., 2001], is: “
: Systems Biology does not investigate individual genes or proteins one at a
: time, as has been the highly successful mode of biology for the past 30
: years. Rather, it investigates the behavior and relationships of all the
: elements in a particular biological system while it is functioning.” A
: second, from the US National Institute

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s*l
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感觉系统生物学还不成熟.现在比较成熟的做系统生物学的学者中,有几个中国人?其
实整个领域也没有几个人. 这个领域顶尖的杂志,Molecular Systems Biology,一年也
就发50-60篇,Nature and its sister journals have a few such papers per year.
不成熟才有更大的发展空间.Chinese students are good at math, there will be
more good ones from Chinese in the future.
By the way, if you think what you are doing (pathways ..) is "systems
biology", just read papers from MSB to see if it is what you expected.
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z*t
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精辟,俺觉得现在做system biology最为成熟的还是genomics

【在 w******y 的大作中提到】
: hehe, 他就是一招鲜而已
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R*0
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No one wants to deny that systems biology is a branch of biology

【在 G***G 的大作中提到】
: based on the two definitions, what is in my mind now is
: 'system biology is a biology which focus on interaction, pathway, or
: something
: similar'.
: Actually, a lot of labs are doing this kind of research, but they just
: didn't call themselves as 'system biology lab'.
:
: Douglas Lauffenburger:
: Systems biology is different things to different people. One definition,
: from Lee Hood’s Institute for Systems Biology [Ideker et al., 2001], is: “

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l*u
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Chip on Chip 或者 chip seq 能做的人多了去了,
随便找个好的core facility 都能给你整.关键是能不能focus到重要的问题做.
白头的 Young 也不就是Chip on chip吗, 人就是牛.

【在 e*n 的大作中提到】
: ren bing 就是 chip-chip 而已吧
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h*o
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主要是做的好的人少
在美国系统生物学都是James Colins,Stanicolas, Uri Alon实验室里出来的,没有几
个中国人
汤超可能要回北大看看么,这不有了领军人物之一,加上原来理论生物学中心的几个PI

【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: 嗯,谢谢。 希望能多推荐几个。至少我可以吹吹风,看他们能不能来至少做个兼职嘛。
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G*G
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forgive my stupidness.
May we call all the web lab in the world doing interaction or pathway
as 'system biology'? why not?

【在 R********0 的大作中提到】
: No one wants to deny that systems biology is a branch of biology
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l*u
28
什么是 web lab? 网络实验室?

【在 G***G 的大作中提到】
: forgive my stupidness.
: May we call all the web lab in the world doing interaction or pathway
: as 'system biology'? why not?

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w*n
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Douglas Lauffenburger is a Chemical Engineering professor at MIT.
From the definition, my impression is that biochemical engineering might be
there already.

derives

【在 e*n 的大作中提到】
: Douglas Lauffenburger:
: Systems biology is different things to different people. One definition,
: from Lee Hood’s Institute for Systems Biology [Ideker et al., 2001], is: “
: Systems Biology does not investigate individual genes or proteins one at a
: time, as has been the highly successful mode of biology for the past 30
: years. Rather, it investigates the behavior and relationships of all the
: elements in a particular biological system while it is functioning.” A
: second, from the US National Institute

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p*r
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汤超似乎是兼职。但他们那似乎是做得不错。我还没有接触,但看publicaiton不错。

PI

【在 h*****o 的大作中提到】
: 主要是做的好的人少
: 在美国系统生物学都是James Colins,Stanicolas, Uri Alon实验室里出来的,没有几
: 个中国人
: 汤超可能要回北大看看么,这不有了领军人物之一,加上原来理论生物学中心的几个PI

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W*S
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RICK YOUNG牛在哪阿?没发现。

【在 l******u 的大作中提到】
: Chip on Chip 或者 chip seq 能做的人多了去了,
: 随便找个好的core facility 都能给你整.关键是能不能focus到重要的问题做.
: 白头的 Young 也不就是Chip on chip吗, 人就是牛.

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