德州的机会, 未来PI们 - 未名空间MITBBS历史存档

s*62010-09-12 07:09

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我们家老大现在两岁八个月，上三天的part-time daycare, 因为一直跟我时间多所以
比较缠我，最近好不容易让她爸爸陪睡，平时还是经常动不动就妈妈妈妈的叫。我马
上就要生老二了，找了个月嫂，我想到时候干脆让月嫂到医院去陪护，老公白天可以再
医院陪着到了晚上就回家陪老大，这样的话不会让她觉得一下子爸爸妈妈全不在身边。
btw, 我父母也在身边但是他们身体都不太好，我不太想让他们陪孩子睡觉。
有没有姐妹是这么做的？谢谢。

L*h2010-09-12 07:09

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最近给家人办过签证的姐妹，请问现在去签证还需要带签证费的收据吗？因为是ATM缴
费，所以不清楚还要不要带了,因为是别人代缴的。

m*l2010-09-12 07:09

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是描述八十年代中期，正处于阿富汗战争阴影下的苏联。
推荐的原因是在影片中，如此深切得感觉到，好像有回到了中国的八十年代末的感觉。
那是社会已经有阶层，但整个社会都是如此贫困与破败，大家差别还不大。那种整个社
会的无奈与彷徨，在影片中表现的如此真切，尽管是不同国家与民族。估计经历过那个
时代的人会有体会。
就为了这种体验吧。

f*y2010-09-12 07:09

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买某品牌vista电脑收到的windows 7的安装盘和key能装到其它牌子的机器上么？该安
装盘和key还没被用过。如果可以，准备卖了。

y*82010-09-12 07:09

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Recruitment Grant Awards – CPRIT Scholar in Cancer Research
http://www.cprit.state.tx.us/pdfs/recruitment_award_06182010.pdf
州政府给的start-up。这样的start-up加上学校自己掏得一部分，很容易就超过
Harvard, Rockefeller给的package. 至少从钱上来说。
下面说不定有大家的熟人. 如果是做癌症研究相关的，德州未来几年是个好地方。
Candidate Award Mechanism Successfully Recruited
Recommended Award* Nominator Institution Candidate Present
Institution
Li Ma First-Time, Tenure-Track Faculty Member Yes $2,000,000
University of Texas M.D

a*y2010-09-12 07:09

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很正常啊, 我生老二的时候就这么做的

【在 s****6 的大作中提到】

: 我们家老大现在两岁八个月，上三天的part-time daycare, 因为一直跟我时间多所以
: 比较缠我，最近好不容易让她爸爸陪睡，平时还是经常动不动就妈妈妈妈的叫。我马
: 上就要生老二了，找了个月嫂，我想到时候干脆让月嫂到医院去陪护，老公白天可以再
: 医院陪着到了晚上就回家陪老大，这样的话不会让她觉得一下子爸爸妈妈全不在身边。
: btw, 我父母也在身边但是他们身体都不太好，我不太想让他们陪孩子睡觉。
: 有没有姐妹是这么做的？谢谢。

a92010-09-12 07:09

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应该可以，但不要卖。

【在 f*********y 的大作中提到】

: 买某品牌vista电脑收到的windows 7的安装盘和key能装到其它牌子的机器上么？该安
: 装盘和key还没被用过。如果可以，准备卖了。

j*d2010-09-12 07:09

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看来她是去了MD Anderson
http://www2.mdanderson.org/app/peoplefinder/person.cfm?id=3D57DFDAC818
湖南人？

for

【在 y******8 的大作中提到】

: Recruitment Grant Awards – CPRIT Scholar in Cancer Research
: http://www.cprit.state.tx.us/pdfs/recruitment_award_06182010.pdf
: 州政府给的start-up。这样的start-up加上学校自己掏得一部分，很容易就超过
: Harvard, Rockefeller给的package. 至少从钱上来说。
: 下面说不定有大家的熟人. 如果是做癌症研究相关的，德州未来几年是个好地方。
: Candidate Award Mechanism Successfully Recruited
: Recommended Award* Nominator Institution Candidate Present
: Institution
: Li Ma First-Time, Tenure-Track Faculty Member Yes $2,000,000
: University of Texas M.D

s*62010-09-12 07:09

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谢谢aily, 有人这么做过我就放心些。

f*y2010-09-12 07:09

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我知道，准备local出。能装任何电脑上？bios也不需要slic 2.1? Thanks!

【在 a9 的大作中提到】

: 应该可以，但不要卖。

A*y2010-09-12 07:09

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There is a star next to the recommended award amount. What does the star
mean?

a*e2010-09-12 07:09

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但是不同的月嫂对产妇的态度可能是不一样的。
之前你担心什么？

【在 s****6 的大作中提到】

: 谢谢aily, 有人这么做过我就放心些。

z*t2010-09-12 07:09

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established faculty moves from another institute

【在 A******y 的大作中提到】

: There is a star next to the recommended award amount. What does the star
: mean?

s*62010-09-12 07:09

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我就是有点没底，毕竟刚生了孩子有自己亲人在边上踏实一点。

w*y2010-09-12 07:09

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very generous startup, but hiring standards should be very high too

for

【在 y******8 的大作中提到】

: Recruitment Grant Awards – CPRIT Scholar in Cancer Research
: http://www.cprit.state.tx.us/pdfs/recruitment_award_06182010.pdf
: 州政府给的start-up。这样的start-up加上学校自己掏得一部分，很容易就超过
: Harvard, Rockefeller给的package. 至少从钱上来说。
: 下面说不定有大家的熟人. 如果是做癌症研究相关的，德州未来几年是个好地方。
: Candidate Award Mechanism Successfully Recruited
: Recommended Award* Nominator Institution Candidate Present
: Institution
: Li Ma First-Time, Tenure-Track Faculty Member Yes $2,000,000
: University of Texas M.D

T*M2010-09-12 07:09

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其实不用陪,医院有护士,有什么事情找护士就行了.

b*d2010-09-12 07:09

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Texas schools have had trouble to recruit junior faculty and keep
promising professors over the years. Several of my friends have turned
down offers from Texas schools. In a competitive market, if you offer
significantly more than others, something doesn't sound right. In this
case, money is probably the only advantage they could offer, but often
times, money cannot buy everything.

【在 w******y 的大作中提到】

: very generous startup, but hiring standards should be very high too
:
:
: for

C*d2010-09-12 07:09

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晚上完全没必要人陪。

【在 s****6 的大作中提到】

: 我们家老大现在两岁八个月，上三天的part-time daycare, 因为一直跟我时间多所以
: 比较缠我，最近好不容易让她爸爸陪睡，平时还是经常动不动就妈妈妈妈的叫。我马
: 上就要生老二了，找了个月嫂，我想到时候干脆让月嫂到医院去陪护，老公白天可以再
: 医院陪着到了晚上就回家陪老大，这样的话不会让她觉得一下子爸爸妈妈全不在身边。
: btw, 我父母也在身边但是他们身体都不太好，我不太想让他们陪孩子睡觉。
: 有没有姐妹是这么做的？谢谢。

w*e2010-09-12 07:09

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zkss
I wonder what the problem is for Texas schools.

【在 b******d 的大作中提到】

:
: Texas schools have had trouble to recruit junior faculty and keep
: promising professors over the years. Several of my friends have turned
: down offers from Texas schools. In a competitive market, if you offer
: significantly more than others, something doesn't sound right. In this
: case, money is probably the only advantage they could offer, but often
: times, money cannot buy everything.

S*o2010-09-12 07:09

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我也是多数时间白天一个人在医院，没有觉得什么不方便．护士几乎每个小时来一次问
有什么需要．
不过有人照顾当然更好．

z*t2010-09-12 07:09

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I think according to recent situation in Baylor.
Many established PI has moved out while the institute recruit many promising
young start-up PIs

【在 b******d 的大作中提到】

:
: Texas schools have had trouble to recruit junior faculty and keep
: promising professors over the years. Several of my friends have turned
: down offers from Texas schools. In a competitive market, if you offer
: significantly more than others, something doesn't sound right. In this
: case, money is probably the only advantage they could offer, but often
: times, money cannot buy everything.

s*62010-09-12 07:09

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谢谢大家的回复。这次因为想好好把身体养好，所以希望能有人在医院帮忙照看一下
，主要是在医院也要给孩子喂奶换尿布什麽的，有个人在边上好些。护士是经常来但
是喂奶喝换尿布还是得自己来，起码我生老大是这样的。

O*e2010-09-12 07:09

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Junjie Chen's department is getting bigger...

【在 j*****d 的大作中提到】

: 看来她是去了MD Anderson
: http://www2.mdanderson.org/app/peoplefinder/person.cfm?id=3D57DFDAC818
: 湖南人？
:
:
: for

a*d2010-09-12 07:09

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I put my two kids at nurse's care at night time when I rest at the hospital.
nobody stay with me at night time at all.
I had 1 c-section.

O*e2010-09-12 07:09

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我觉得主要是由德州的经济构成和文化传统造成的。石油经济本质上虽然技术成本
不高，但是极端暴利，导致整个经济体系都很保守，根本不想去创新，创业精神也
了了。德州人骨子里呢，还是比较粗野，细致的东西也做不来。
最近几年这个癌症研究计划，就很莫名其妙－－骨子里就是德州人的攀比心理：你
加州弄个干细胞的，我就出钱弄个癌症的。说句不好听的，真是傻到了极点。不过
做癌症的德州实验室倒是高兴地不得了。
你也可以看出MDACC在德州的影响力了，毕竟他们是那3 billion的最大受益者。

【在 b******d 的大作中提到】

:
: Texas schools have had trouble to recruit junior faculty and keep
: promising professors over the years. Several of my friends have turned
: down offers from Texas schools. In a competitive market, if you offer
: significantly more than others, something doesn't sound right. In this
: case, money is probably the only advantage they could offer, but often
: times, money cannot buy everything.

x*t2010-09-12 07:09

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agree. my lg was home with the older one, and I was in the hospital with
the newborn. You can always ask the nurse for help if needed.

【在 C*****d 的大作中提到】

: 晚上完全没必要人陪。

O*e2010-09-12 07:09

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where was the money from to "recruit many promising young startup PIs"??

promising

【在 z*t 的大作中提到】

: I think according to recent situation in Baylor.
: Many established PI has moved out while the institute recruit many promising
: young start-up PIs

t*z2010-09-12 07:09

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奇怪，你们医院不提供看宝宝的服务么？我那时候大部分都是让护士帮我照顾宝宝。如
果真这样还是让月嫂帮忙比较好了。刚生完孩子那几天还是需要多休息

【在 s****6 的大作中提到】

: 谢谢大家的回复。这次因为想好好把身体养好，所以希望能有人在医院帮忙照看一下
: ，主要是在医院也要给孩子喂奶换尿布什麽的，有个人在边上好些。护士是经常来但
: 是喂奶喝换尿布还是得自己来，起码我生老大是这样的。

z*t2010-09-12 07:09

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I'm sorry, most new PIs were recruited in previous years...and most of them
have affiliations across departments so that they can be surpported from the
schools in mutiple ways.
One or two department do have some funding to recruit people even through
Baylor come across a nearly-bankrupcy situation last year.

【在 O******e 的大作中提到】

: where was the money from to "recruit many promising young startup PIs"??
:
: promising

s*d2010-09-12 07:09

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我们去过的医院晚上都是把孩子拿走的。

【在 s****6 的大作中提到】

: 谢谢大家的回复。这次因为想好好把身体养好，所以希望能有人在医院帮忙照看一下
: ，主要是在医院也要给孩子喂奶换尿布什麽的，有个人在边上好些。护士是经常来但
: 是喂奶喝换尿布还是得自己来，起码我生老大是这样的。

z*t2010-09-12 07:09

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嗯，典型的人傻钱多的地方

【在 O******e 的大作中提到】

: 我觉得主要是由德州的经济构成和文化传统造成的。石油经济本质上虽然技术成本
: 不高，但是极端暴利，导致整个经济体系都很保守，根本不想去创新，创业精神也
: 了了。德州人骨子里呢，还是比较粗野，细致的东西也做不来。
: 最近几年这个癌症研究计划，就很莫名其妙－－骨子里就是德州人的攀比心理：你
: 加州弄个干细胞的，我就出钱弄个癌症的。说句不好听的，真是傻到了极点。不过
: 做癌症的德州实验室倒是高兴地不得了。
: 你也可以看出MDACC在德州的影响力了，毕竟他们是那3 billion的最大受益者。

s*62010-09-12 07:09

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可能医院和医院不一样吧，我去的这个医院也有nursery,但是感觉医生和护士都还是鼓
励baby和父母room-in. 我生老大时第一天是送的nursery,第二天就自己带了。晚上被
折腾的可以：）

s*r2010-09-12 07:09

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恐怕Southwestern拿的钱更多。

我觉得主要是由德州的经济构成和文化传统造成的。石油经济本质上虽然技术成本
不高，但是极端暴利，导致整个经济体系都很保守，根本不想去创新，创业精神也
了了。德州人骨子里呢，还是比较粗野，细致的东西也做不来。
最近几年这个癌症研究计划，就很莫名其妙－－骨子里就是德州人的攀比心理：你
加州弄个干细胞的，我就出钱弄个癌症的。说句不好听的，真是傻到了极点。不过
做癌症的德州实验室倒是高兴地不得了。
你也可以看出MDACC在德州的影响力了，毕竟他们是那3 billion的最大受益者。

【在 O******e 的大作中提到】

: 我觉得主要是由德州的经济构成和文化传统造成的。石油经济本质上虽然技术成本
: 不高，但是极端暴利，导致整个经济体系都很保守，根本不想去创新，创业精神也
: 了了。德州人骨子里呢，还是比较粗野，细致的东西也做不来。
: 最近几年这个癌症研究计划，就很莫名其妙－－骨子里就是德州人的攀比心理：你
: 加州弄个干细胞的，我就出钱弄个癌症的。说句不好听的，真是傻到了极点。不过
: 做癌症的德州实验室倒是高兴地不得了。
: 你也可以看出MDACC在德州的影响力了，毕竟他们是那3 billion的最大受益者。

w*y2010-09-12 07:09

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讨论一下：
德州AP+400万刀启动经费，和清华特别研究员+600万人民币启动经费，
对junior facutly哪个吸引力更大？

【在 b******d 的大作中提到】

:
: Texas schools have had trouble to recruit junior faculty and keep
: promising professors over the years. Several of my friends have turned
: down offers from Texas schools. In a competitive market, if you offer
: significantly more than others, something doesn't sound right. In this
: case, money is probably the only advantage they could offer, but often
: times, money cannot buy everything.

p*l2010-09-12 07:09

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看领域
结构的话我觉得回清华蛮好
要是做肿瘤，遗传。老鼠模型，疾病的还是德州吧。

【在 w******y 的大作中提到】

: 讨论一下：
: 德州AP+400万刀启动经费，和清华特别研究员+600万人民币启动经费，
: 对junior facutly哪个吸引力更大？

O*e2010-09-12 07:09

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前几轮下来，MDACC最多，BCM其次。Southwestern拿到的很少。他们的cancer biology
好象比前两家还是差些吧。

【在 s******r 的大作中提到】

: 恐怕Southwestern拿的钱更多。
:
: 我觉得主要是由德州的经济构成和文化传统造成的。石油经济本质上虽然技术成本
: 不高，但是极端暴利，导致整个经济体系都很保守，根本不想去创新，创业精神也
: 了了。德州人骨子里呢，还是比较粗野，细致的东西也做不来。
: 最近几年这个癌症研究计划，就很莫名其妙－－骨子里就是德州人的攀比心理：你
: 加州弄个干细胞的，我就出钱弄个癌症的。说句不好听的，真是傻到了极点。不过
: 做癌症的德州实验室倒是高兴地不得了。
: 你也可以看出MDACC在德州的影响力了，毕竟他们是那3 billion的最大受益者。

h*y2010-09-12 07:09

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算美女吗？

【在 j*****d 的大作中提到】

: 看来她是去了MD Anderson
: http://www2.mdanderson.org/app/peoplefinder/person.cfm?id=3D57DFDAC818
: 湖南人？
:
:
: for

h*y2010-09-12 07:09

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西南的癌症中心刚升格了

biology

【在 O******e 的大作中提到】

: 前几轮下来，MDACC最多，BCM其次。Southwestern拿到的很少。他们的cancer biology
: 好象比前两家还是差些吧。

w*82010-09-12 07:09

39 楼

江西人，如果没猜错的话。

s*y2010-09-12 07:09

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这还需要讨论？400万是美元哎，而且德州房子便宜得跟白菜似的

【在 w******y 的大作中提到】

: 讨论一下：
: 德州AP+400万刀启动经费，和清华特别研究员+600万人民币启动经费，
: 对junior facutly哪个吸引力更大？

j*d2010-09-12 07:09

41 楼

I think 11g is right: top2's aim is to be a respected state university in US
(top 50 of public school?). Long way to go.

【在 s******y 的大作中提到】

: 这还需要讨论？400万是美元哎，而且德州房子便宜得跟白菜似的

s*y2010-09-12 07:09

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德州的同学们来具体说说？

【在 b******d 的大作中提到】

:
: Texas schools have had trouble to recruit junior faculty and keep
: promising professors over the years. Several of my friends have turned
: down offers from Texas schools. In a competitive market, if you offer
: significantly more than others, something doesn't sound right. In this
: case, money is probably the only advantage they could offer, but often
: times, money cannot buy everything.

j*d2010-09-12 07:09

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Everybody is aging, including you and me. Sigh.
I saw she fought back as some ID questioned her results. The Ba Qi from her
looks like a Hunan/Hubei girl. Without doubt, She is one of the most
promising chinese bio-med researchers born between 1975-1980.

【在 h******y 的大作中提到】

: 算美女吗？

s*y2010-09-12 07:09

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本来就是。某些学校领导人为了政绩动不动就要提“世界一流大学”，
让人不知道说什么好。
不过，由于地域原因和其他一些原因，等top2达到美国目前的前50学校的水平
的时候，应该在世界上大部分排名上会在前50。
另外，中国的学校的实力一直在慢慢的上升，所以过20年之后可能就是不同的
局面了。

US

【在 j*****d 的大作中提到】

:
: Everybody is aging, including you and me. Sigh.
: I saw she fought back as some ID questioned her results. The Ba Qi from her
: looks like a Hunan/Hubei girl. Without doubt, She is one of the most
: promising chinese bio-med researchers born between 1975-1980.

O*e2010-09-12 07:09

45 楼

Without no doubt,你到底doubt还是不doubt啊，呵呵。
判断一个人的科研能力，还是等他/她独立个两三年后再去用这个“最”字比较好。

her

【在 j*****d 的大作中提到】

:
: Everybody is aging, including you and me. Sigh.
: I saw she fought back as some ID questioned her results. The Ba Qi from her
: looks like a Hunan/Hubei girl. Without doubt, She is one of the most
: promising chinese bio-med researchers born between 1975-1980.

j*d2010-09-12 07:09

46 楼

sorry. without doubt! :)
Weinberg, too huge.

【在 O******e 的大作中提到】

: Without no doubt,你到底doubt还是不doubt啊，呵呵。
: 判断一个人的科研能力，还是等他/她独立个两三年后再去用这个“最”字比较好。
:
: her

s*e2010-09-12 07:09

47 楼

和东西部比，德州的研究更加"translational"一些。我想一部分原因是因为德州的研
究经费很大一部分来自私人捐款。大款们通常对所谓的基础研究不感冒，也听不懂。能
让他们掏腰包的大多是和临床直接相关的工作。这些工作通常发表的文章"档次不高"（
按版上大部分人的标准），所以对许多hardcore的研究者吸引力不大。另外不可忽视的
一个问题是，由于CNS paper发表机会少，德州实验室相对很难吸引到好学生和博士后
，也是让许多PI hesitate 的原因。
我个人倒认为德州的研究是更为正确的途径，另外德州生活也relax一些，欢迎大家到
德州来！

【在 s******y 的大作中提到】

: 德州的同学们来具体说说？

O*e2010-09-12 07:09

48 楼

你不觉得，真正成功的translational research会催生一大批生工公司和一大批顶级
医院么？
没有好的基础研究就想有好的translational，可能性太小吧。

【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】

: 和东西部比，德州的研究更加"translational"一些。我想一部分原因是因为德州的研
: 究经费很大一部分来自私人捐款。大款们通常对所谓的基础研究不感冒，也听不懂。能
: 让他们掏腰包的大多是和临床直接相关的工作。这些工作通常发表的文章"档次不高"（
: 按版上大部分人的标准），所以对许多hardcore的研究者吸引力不大。另外不可忽视的
: 一个问题是，由于CNS paper发表机会少，德州实验室相对很难吸引到好学生和博士后
: ，也是让许多PI hesitate 的原因。
: 我个人倒认为德州的研究是更为正确的途径，另外德州生活也relax一些，欢迎大家到
: 德州来！

s*e2010-09-12 07:09

49 楼

这问题仁者见仁，没必要再讨论了。
另外自己不做并不代表不懂，更不是说不能利用别人的基础研究成果。TMC有很多实验
室做的基本上就是在试验Harvard的基础研究成果能不能临床应用。
从美国全局来看，好的基础研究中心已经很多了，德州的研究有自己的风格和focus，
不失为一个明智的选择。

【在 O******e 的大作中提到】

: 你不觉得，真正成功的translational research会催生一大批生工公司和一大批顶级
: 医院么？
: 没有好的基础研究就想有好的translational，可能性太小吧。

s*y2010-09-12 07:09

50 楼

那个CPRIT Scholar in Cancer Research是不是只给州政府支持的公立学校？
我有点奇怪Baylor 和 Rice的人不在名单上。
MD Anderson的钱貌似特别多，而且很多做translational research的，还有
一个特点就是华人特别多。

【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】

: 这问题仁者见仁，没必要再讨论了。
: 另外自己不做并不代表不懂，更不是说不能利用别人的基础研究成果。TMC有很多实验
: 室做的基本上就是在试验Harvard的基础研究成果能不能临床应用。
: 从美国全局来看，好的基础研究中心已经很多了，德州的研究有自己的风格和focus，
: 不失为一个明智的选择。

y*82010-09-12 07:09

51 楼

Well, UTSW has been doing extremely well in basic research. Many famous PIs
also established their careers in Baylor or MD Anderson. To name a few,
Stephen Cohen, Stephen J. Elledge and Gerard Karsenty.
I think institutions in Texas have difficulties to compete with Harvard,
Columbia or Stanford on Senior PIs' recruitment. It would be hard to ask the
government to pay 10-20M for a single PI.
So, Baylor and MD Anderson lost many senior PIs in basic research. In the
contrast, UTSW kept majority of

【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】

: 和东西部比，德州的研究更加"translational"一些。我想一部分原因是因为德州的研
: 究经费很大一部分来自私人捐款。大款们通常对所谓的基础研究不感冒，也听不懂。能
: 让他们掏腰包的大多是和临床直接相关的工作。这些工作通常发表的文章"档次不高"（
: 按版上大部分人的标准），所以对许多hardcore的研究者吸引力不大。另外不可忽视的
: 一个问题是，由于CNS paper发表机会少，德州实验室相对很难吸引到好学生和博士后
: ，也是让许多PI hesitate 的原因。
: 我个人倒认为德州的研究是更为正确的途径，另外德州生活也relax一些，欢迎大家到
: 德州来！

y*82010-09-12 07:09

52 楼

It is interesting. Baylor has its own cancer scholar program giving eight-
year support.

【在 s******y 的大作中提到】

: 那个CPRIT Scholar in Cancer Research是不是只给州政府支持的公立学校？
: 我有点奇怪Baylor 和 Rice的人不在名单上。
: MD Anderson的钱貌似特别多，而且很多做translational research的，还有
: 一个特点就是华人特别多。

s*e2010-09-12 07:09

53 楼

不是，BCM, Rice的人肯定可以申请。
MD Anderson钱确实非常多，但federal funding不多。
再宣传一遍，MD Anderson做研究可以很relax的，一般PI前几年工资是100% cover, 几
年后（很多是5年）仍然可以cover 70%，也就是说，你只要申请到钱cover自己30%
working effort就可以了。
不过提醒一下,BCM完全不一样。BCM实际上没有tenure（虽然名义上是tenure track）
，full professor如果没有funding了照样要走人，小心了！

【在 s******y 的大作中提到】

: 那个CPRIT Scholar in Cancer Research是不是只给州政府支持的公立学校？
: 我有点奇怪Baylor 和 Rice的人不在名单上。
: MD Anderson的钱貌似特别多，而且很多做translational research的，还有
: 一个特点就是华人特别多。

O*e2010-09-12 07:09

54 楼

MDACC钱是很多，但听说他们内部对兼职管得非常严，好像没有华人faculty在国内
挂职的？
Relaxed呢，也OK;不过往往造成懒惰，产出差。

【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】

: 不是，BCM, Rice的人肯定可以申请。
: MD Anderson钱确实非常多，但federal funding不多。
: 再宣传一遍，MD Anderson做研究可以很relax的，一般PI前几年工资是100% cover, 几
: 年后（很多是5年）仍然可以cover 70%，也就是说，你只要申请到钱cover自己30%
: working effort就可以了。
: 不过提醒一下,BCM完全不一样。BCM实际上没有tenure（虽然名义上是tenure track）
: ，full professor如果没有funding了照样要走人，小心了！

y*82010-09-12 07:09

55 楼

There are no real tenure in most medical shools or hospitals including
Harvard system.
MD Anderson belongs to UT system, which is required by law to pay 50% of
faculty salary. That's the benefit of being government employee.

【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】

: 不是，BCM, Rice的人肯定可以申请。
: MD Anderson钱确实非常多，但federal funding不多。
: 再宣传一遍，MD Anderson做研究可以很relax的，一般PI前几年工资是100% cover, 几
: 年后（很多是5年）仍然可以cover 70%，也就是说，你只要申请到钱cover自己30%
: working effort就可以了。
: 不过提醒一下,BCM完全不一样。BCM实际上没有tenure（虽然名义上是tenure track）
: ，full professor如果没有funding了照样要走人，小心了！

y*82010-09-12 07:09

56 楼

Actually, UC system and most public systems pay higher percentage than UT
system does.

s*e2010-09-12 07:09

57 楼

good to know. But I think UC will soon change, haha

【在 y******8 的大作中提到】

: Actually, UC system and most public systems pay higher percentage than UT
: system does.

y*82010-09-12 07:09

58 楼

The fundamental problem for biomedical research in Texas might be lacking of
close multidisciplinary cooperation.
However, I guess this would not be a problem for everyone, but only for
someone relying on multidisciplinary cooperation.
Think about Boston, NYC, LA, SF or even San Diego. There always are big
universities with top rankings at almost every areas of science and
engineering.
In Texas, situation is quite different. UT Austin might be one of the best,
but far away from either Dallas or

【在 s******y 的大作中提到】

: 德州的同学们来具体说说？

h*u2010-09-12 07:09

59 楼

lacking of
for
big
best,
too
is
yes, this is one of the factors. Starting package is not the only
deciding factor. Institutional support, peer/collaborator quality,
postdoc/graduate student attractions, geographic location, weather and
family, etc. are all important factors. Nothing against Texas, but the
reality is that it couldn't compete on most of this v.s. schools in both
coasts and some top midwest schools. Texas may offer inexpensive
housing, but schools in expensive area offer diffe

【在 y******8 的大作中提到】

: The fundamental problem for biomedical research in Texas might be lacking of
: close multidisciplinary cooperation.
: However, I guess this would not be a problem for everyone, but only for
: someone relying on multidisciplinary cooperation.
: Think about Boston, NYC, LA, SF or even San Diego. There always are big
: universities with top rankings at almost every areas of science and
: engineering.
: In Texas, situation is quite different. UT Austin might be one of the best,
: but far away from either Dallas or

K*S2010-09-12 07:09

60 楼

kind of agree, MD Anderson is huge in terms of patient care. For example, It
might not be as good as S-K in NYC in pure research. But the huge patient
base capability is gotta be appreciated by those translational research
group.

【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】

: 和东西部比，德州的研究更加"translational"一些。我想一部分原因是因为德州的研
: 究经费很大一部分来自私人捐款。大款们通常对所谓的基础研究不感冒，也听不懂。能
: 让他们掏腰包的大多是和临床直接相关的工作。这些工作通常发表的文章"档次不高"（
: 按版上大部分人的标准），所以对许多hardcore的研究者吸引力不大。另外不可忽视的
: 一个问题是，由于CNS paper发表机会少，德州实验室相对很难吸引到好学生和博士后
: ，也是让许多PI hesitate 的原因。
: 我个人倒认为德州的研究是更为正确的途径，另外德州生活也relax一些，欢迎大家到
: 德州来！

h*n2010-09-12 07:09

61 楼

I thought NIH want schools to pay at least 50% so less NIH grant will be
used to pay for their salary. I am not very sure about this.

【在 y******8 的大作中提到】

: There are no real tenure in most medical shools or hospitals including
: Harvard system.
: MD Anderson belongs to UT system, which is required by law to pay 50% of
: faculty salary. That's the benefit of being government employee.

i*R2010-09-12 07:09

62 楼

可能还是德州AP 更有吸引力吧。

【在 w******y 的大作中提到】

: 讨论一下：
: 德州AP+400万刀启动经费，和清华特别研究员+600万人民币启动经费，
: 对junior facutly哪个吸引力更大？

y*82010-09-12 07:09

63 楼

I don't think it's a NIH mandatory. Collins thinks that more than 70% of
direct cost to salary is not a good way to spend. However, unless the individual R01 money double or triple its current size, it is just
impractical to ask pure research institution to pay at least 50% salary for
research faculty.

【在 h********n 的大作中提到】

: I thought NIH want schools to pay at least 50% so less NIH grant will be
: used to pay for their salary. I am not very sure about this.

h*n2010-09-12 07:09

64 楼

原来如此.

individual R01 money double or triple its current size, it is just
for

【在 y******8 的大作中提到】

: I don't think it's a NIH mandatory. Collins thinks that more than 70% of
: direct cost to salary is not a good way to spend. However, unless the individual R01 money double or triple its current size, it is just
: impractical to ask pure research institution to pay at least 50% salary for
: research faculty.

n*n2010-09-12 07:09

65 楼

I feel as a Texan I need to speak here to clarify a few issues.
1. BCM, MDACC, Rice, UTHSC-Houston, UH, and many hospitals all together make
the world largest medical center! Baylor College of Medicine is still the
best medical school and research institution in Texas. But it is indeed
facing big financial trouble, and going down. Although the worst time has
passed, it now spends significant amount of interest back to the creditors.
It used to top 10 in the country, but now may be just mid-20. B

w*y2010-09-12 07:09

66 楼

haha, 德州人出来了，好

make
.
if
50%
as
and
of
respected
.
and
is
of
liberal
here

【在 n****n 的大作中提到】

: I feel as a Texan I need to speak here to clarify a few issues.
: 1. BCM, MDACC, Rice, UTHSC-Houston, UH, and many hospitals all together make
: the world largest medical center! Baylor College of Medicine is still the
: best medical school and research institution in Texas. But it is indeed
: facing big financial trouble, and going down. Although the worst time has
: passed, it now spends significant amount of interest back to the creditors.
: It used to top 10 in the country, but now may be just mid-20. B

w*e2010-09-12 07:09

67 楼

zan!! just curious: is there any special reason why Chinese ppl like Texas
so much?

make
.
if
50%

【在 n****n 的大作中提到】

: I feel as a Texan I need to speak here to clarify a few issues.
: 1. BCM, MDACC, Rice, UTHSC-Houston, UH, and many hospitals all together make
: the world largest medical center! Baylor College of Medicine is still the
: best medical school and research institution in Texas. But it is indeed
: facing big financial trouble, and going down. Although the worst time has
: passed, it now spends significant amount of interest back to the creditors.
: It used to top 10 in the country, but now may be just mid-20. B

y*82010-09-12 07:09

68 楼

Because of Yao Ming, hoho. Just kidding.

【在 w******e 的大作中提到】

: zan!! just curious: is there any special reason why Chinese ppl like Texas
: so much?
:
: make
: .
: if
: 50%

n*k2010-09-12 07:09

69 楼

Is Baylor still No 1 in TX? I always had that impression but started to
doubt my long belief last year...

make
.
if
50%

【在 n****n 的大作中提到】

: I feel as a Texan I need to speak here to clarify a few issues.
: 1. BCM, MDACC, Rice, UTHSC-Houston, UH, and many hospitals all together make
: the world largest medical center! Baylor College of Medicine is still the
: best medical school and research institution in Texas. But it is indeed
: facing big financial trouble, and going down. Although the worst time has
: passed, it now spends significant amount of interest back to the creditors.
: It used to top 10 in the country, but now may be just mid-20. B

r*y2010-09-12 07:09

70 楼

Several comments.
(1) As of 2010, the Texas Medical Center includes 49 institutions and
hospitals....
(2) Rice is not that strong at biomedical research (mentioned in your post).
As an example, UH has more NIH grants than Rice (both schools has no
medical school).
(3) In cancer clinical side, MDACC is #1 in the nation, as far as I know. It
is still expanding.
(4) It is said that UT Austin tries to build its own medical school now. But
it is too early to say anything. Wait and see..

make
.
if
50

【在 n****n 的大作中提到】

: I feel as a Texan I need to speak here to clarify a few issues.
: 1. BCM, MDACC, Rice, UTHSC-Houston, UH, and many hospitals all together make
: the world largest medical center! Baylor College of Medicine is still the
: best medical school and research institution in Texas. But it is indeed
: facing big financial trouble, and going down. Although the worst time has
: passed, it now spends significant amount of interest back to the creditors.
: It used to top 10 in the country, but now may be just mid-20. B

y*82010-09-12 07:09

71 楼

Rice U is also expanding its biomedical research, just like most
institutions in Texas.
I think Texas now offers more opportunities than other states.

).
It
But

【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】

: Several comments.
: (1) As of 2010, the Texas Medical Center includes 49 institutions and
: hospitals....
: (2) Rice is not that strong at biomedical research (mentioned in your post).
: As an example, UH has more NIH grants than Rice (both schools has no
: medical school).
: (3) In cancer clinical side, MDACC is #1 in the nation, as far as I know. It
: is still expanding.
: (4) It is said that UT Austin tries to build its own medical school now. But
: it is too early to say anything. Wait and see..

w*y2010-09-12 07:09

72 楼

唯一可惜的是德州biomed工业界机会不多

【在 y******8 的大作中提到】

: Rice U is also expanding its biomedical research, just like most
: institutions in Texas.
: I think Texas now offers more opportunities than other states.
:
: ).
: It
: But

d*r2010-09-12 07:09

73 楼

还可以把。他们最近小pharm有不少招人的。

【在 w******y 的大作中提到】

: 唯一可惜的是德州biomed工业界机会不多

O*e2010-09-12 07:09

74 楼

You sure know a lot about Texas!

make
.
if
50%

【在 n****n 的大作中提到】

: I feel as a Texan I need to speak here to clarify a few issues.
: 1. BCM, MDACC, Rice, UTHSC-Houston, UH, and many hospitals all together make
: the world largest medical center! Baylor College of Medicine is still the
: best medical school and research institution in Texas. But it is indeed
: facing big financial trouble, and going down. Although the worst time has
: passed, it now spends significant amount of interest back to the creditors.
: It used to top 10 in the country, but now may be just mid-20. B

w*e2010-09-12 07:09

75 楼

luminex!!:)

【在 w******y 的大作中提到】

: 唯一可惜的是德州biomed工业界机会不多

b*d2010-09-12 07:09

76 楼

Texas
Top Americans usually take other offers, so Chinese benefit from that.

【在 w******e 的大作中提到】

: zan!! just curious: is there any special reason why Chinese ppl like Texas
: so much?
:
: make
: .
: if
: 50%

p*r2010-09-12 07:09

77 楼

I have one of those machines sitting in my basement. It sux!

【在 w******e 的大作中提到】

: luminex!!:)

f*r2010-09-12 07:09

78 楼

是的，没想到同校同年级的同学已经这么牛了。

【在 w****8 的大作中提到】

: 江西人，如果没猜错的话。