谁认识这位OSU的老板， 求指认。# Biology - 生物学
w*a
1 楼
Electrical Engineering，好像是Photonics.
http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/thread-1477449-1-1.html
http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/thread-1477449-1-1.html
b*n
2 楼
千万别跟这个导师，注意，是千万！！！！！！跟了的话 会要了你的命的！！！！！
！！！我周围有一哥们 他还有很多学长学姐 都是用血淋淋的例子做了验证的。此人据
说人品差到极点，push那都是小菜了，对人精神摧残、压迫、威胁、背后阴你 而且还
剽窃你劳动成功 他当一作 各种损招无所不用其极 典型的当婊子立牌坊 在osu的ece据
说是最极品的导师 没有之一！他在外人面前装的和孙子似的 所以教授都说他好 只有
他真正的学生才知道跟了他就相当于要了你后半生的命！！！！
http://www.1point3acres.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=39
！！！我周围有一哥们 他还有很多学长学姐 都是用血淋淋的例子做了验证的。此人据
说人品差到极点，push那都是小菜了，对人精神摧残、压迫、威胁、背后阴你 而且还
剽窃你劳动成功 他当一作 各种损招无所不用其极 典型的当婊子立牌坊 在osu的ece据
说是最极品的导师 没有之一！他在外人面前装的和孙子似的 所以教授都说他好 只有
他真正的学生才知道跟了他就相当于要了你后半生的命！！！！
http://www.1point3acres.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=39
b*n
3 楼
碰巧看到。我“有幸”在他在密苏里州大学的时候做过他的博后。具体不讲太多了，只
告诉你一些基本数据吧。
从他到密苏里州成为faculty到现在，共有二十多人，做过他的博后或者博士。目前跟
他最长的只有10个月。他到俄亥俄才半年，似乎已经已赶走2个人了。
希望你慎重考虑吧。
他算是极品中的极品
毁人无数
我不是。Guoqiang Li好像不懂激光，不对，确切地说他是对什么都是一窍不通。他
Matlab不会，电路不会，做实验不会，只会对博后吼，装得自己很牛逼一样，但他真的
什么都不会，只会偷。他招博后的目的就是你来然后让你在原来的方向上再做，然后把
所有的数据给他，把所有常识教会他。然后他背着你，当一作，投文章。然后你被利用
完了，几个月后赶你走，再开始利用下一个博后。这人毫无底线，能混到副教授简直就
是奇迹。
他是在一篇Nature上挂了名，好像是第10作者吧。整天跟你说起来的时候，说得好像自
己事通讯作者一样牛。
他的工作模式就是不断地招人，不断地剽窃，以此来维持自己的地位，而且越剽窃越肆
无忌惮。他每招一个人，目的就是拿到那个人在博士期间项目的新idea，然后拿到所有
数据，之后赶你走，之后就说那是他的idea。
但是他在外人面前装的很孙子，给人印象似乎挺好。他经常回国开会，目的就是套不同
的人，让不同的人给他推荐人手。按常理推断，你老板也只是和他有过一两面之缘，绝
对不了解他。不然不会害自己学生的。
他现在在美国已经是终身教职了，一般不会被解雇。
但是按他这种风格继续下去，即使是终身教职也可能会被解雇，因为品行太恶劣，他在
砸所在大学的牌子，只是现在还没有太多人知道真相。等学校方慢慢了解到事情真相，
可能会有一些措施，但是目前他还不会被解雇。
http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/thread-1477449-1-1.html
告诉你一些基本数据吧。
从他到密苏里州成为faculty到现在，共有二十多人，做过他的博后或者博士。目前跟
他最长的只有10个月。他到俄亥俄才半年，似乎已经已赶走2个人了。
希望你慎重考虑吧。
他算是极品中的极品
毁人无数
我不是。Guoqiang Li好像不懂激光，不对，确切地说他是对什么都是一窍不通。他
Matlab不会，电路不会，做实验不会，只会对博后吼，装得自己很牛逼一样，但他真的
什么都不会，只会偷。他招博后的目的就是你来然后让你在原来的方向上再做，然后把
所有的数据给他，把所有常识教会他。然后他背着你，当一作，投文章。然后你被利用
完了，几个月后赶你走，再开始利用下一个博后。这人毫无底线，能混到副教授简直就
是奇迹。
他是在一篇Nature上挂了名，好像是第10作者吧。整天跟你说起来的时候，说得好像自
己事通讯作者一样牛。
他的工作模式就是不断地招人，不断地剽窃，以此来维持自己的地位，而且越剽窃越肆
无忌惮。他每招一个人，目的就是拿到那个人在博士期间项目的新idea，然后拿到所有
数据，之后赶你走，之后就说那是他的idea。
但是他在外人面前装的很孙子，给人印象似乎挺好。他经常回国开会，目的就是套不同
的人，让不同的人给他推荐人手。按常理推断，你老板也只是和他有过一两面之缘，绝
对不了解他。不然不会害自己学生的。
他现在在美国已经是终身教职了，一般不会被解雇。
但是按他这种风格继续下去，即使是终身教职也可能会被解雇，因为品行太恶劣，他在
砸所在大学的牌子，只是现在还没有太多人知道真相。等学校方慢慢了解到事情真相，
可能会有一些措施，但是目前他还不会被解雇。
http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/thread-1477449-1-1.html
b*n
4 楼
呵呵，变态老板们要是一直这么搞，估计要在国内臭大街了。最后孤家寡人，连自带干
粮的交换/委培/公费留学生和访问学者都招不到了
粮的交换/委培/公费留学生和访问学者都招不到了
d*m
5 楼
为啥美国学生也招不到捏？
【在 b*******n 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，变态老板们要是一直这么搞，估计要在国内臭大街了。最后孤家寡人，连自带干
: 粮的交换/委培/公费留学生和访问学者都招不到了
【在 b*******n 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，变态老板们要是一直这么搞，估计要在国内臭大街了。最后孤家寡人，连自带干
: 粮的交换/委培/公费留学生和访问学者都招不到了
b*n
6 楼
这么挫的人能招到美国学生？
即使招到了美国学生，人家没有身份等种种压力，想走随时就走。
【在 d********m 的大作中提到】
: 为啥美国学生也招不到捏？
即使招到了美国学生，人家没有身份等种种压力，想走随时就走。
【在 d********m 的大作中提到】
: 为啥美国学生也招不到捏？
g*0
7 楼
OSU真是藏龙卧虎
b*n
8 楼
小留们的学费就用来养这种老板，也够悲催的。。
【在 g********0 的大作中提到】
: OSU真是藏龙卧虎
【在 g********0 的大作中提到】
: OSU真是藏龙卧虎
w*a
9 楼
比传说中的 Dr. Suo 踢正步还JP？
w*a
10 楼
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发表于 2012-11-13 01:19:21 |只看该作者 |倒序浏览
有了解俄亥俄州立大学ECE的Prof. Guoqiang Li的情况的么，目前反被他陶瓷~主要搞
激光的。
（寄托管理员阿颜附加：
楼主的询问贴引来热议，远在美国的李国强教授本人也知道了。他and many
colleagues in the optics community 对于那些负面评价和近乎谩骂的回复很不解，
认为与事实相去甚远。所以他写mail给我，做了一些陈述。为了信息公平，这里一并贴
出，希望能帮大家更好做出判断。
寄托是一个提供信息展示、沟通和交流的平台，我们力求做到公平和公正，但是我们没
有能力去评判究竟哪个才是真相，只是希望能尽量提供给大家更透明、更立体的信息，
也希望每个发表个人评价的同学能够真的尊重事实，用理智和客观的态度来帮助后来人
了解真相。
以下是李教授的邮件内容节选：
I give a brief introduction of myself. I have a successful track of record
in my career. I was promoted to full professor and PhD advisor in 1999 just
before I came to US. I was among the youngest PhD advisors at that time in
Chinese Academy of Sciences. After coming to US, I continue to work hard and
adapt myself to the American culture and working ethics. I was promoted
gradually to a research faculty member at University of Arizona, a tenure-
track faculty member at University of Missouri-St. Louis, and a tenured
faculty member at The Ohio State University.
My work is well known in my field and I am a respected professor in the
world. Because of my reputation, I was nominated to the Division Chair of
the Optical Society of America and I have been frequently invited to give
talks across the world, including in Beijing, Shanghai, Nanjing, etc. in
China. My grants went through peer review by the top scientists and I am
well funded by the US government. Recently I pay more attention to the
impact of the work.
I wrote the whole proposal that was funded and led to an article in Nature.
Of course I am proud of it. It was based on my technique that we obtained
the result. The order of the author does not always reflect the real
contributions and sometimes attention is paid to the success of the project.
I would like to let you know that I treat everybody I recruited extremely
nicely and I always do things with logic thinking and in a professional
manner. Before I recruit anybody, I already have the ideas for him/her to
work on and try to ask them to prepare for the project. I create an
excellent working environment for everybody to allow them to be productive
and successful. As long as they can follow my ideas and have the ability to
do the work, they can submit the papers to the journals.
Unfortunately when I worked at University of Missouri - St. Louis (UMSL),the
general quality of the applicants was not so competitive. So I did not
recruit anybody nearly for the first 2 years and during that time I built
the state-of-the-art optics lab mainly by myself. But I had to get some
people to work in the lab and take data. So I started to hire visiting
scholars, postdocs, and graduate students. I stayed there for less than 3.5
years in total. So it is normal that those people work with me for less than
1.5 years before I moved to a much better university. Some visitors are
supposed to work for a few months and the student for internship was
supposed to work just for summer. It is ok that some people may change their
interests and have different thoughts. A few people who worked with me
before expressed to me recently that they want to join my group again at OSU.
Once again, I treated those people at UMSL very well. Because nobody else in
my lab had a car, I almost picked everybody up at the airport and helped
them to find the apartments. Sometimes I took them to the supermarket for
shopping and took them for lunch or dinner. I indeed tried to create an
environment like a family.
I moved to The Ohio State University one year ago. In the beginning I
recruited two people without interview and just based on simple reference
and there were some problems. At here the general quality of the people that
are recruited is much better and I can get excellent postdocs. Right now I
have three postdocs and two students and they are productive and have good
personality. I did more strict screening and careful interview and I
requested their supervisor's reference letters.
I just list some basic facts here. Those slander messages are so ridiculous
and make no sense. I know one person has been creating different accounts
and writing mulple messages. Many professors asked me to ingore such
messages. I like to be open and frank. I am having a group at OSU that is
getting better and better, and I am confident that my lab will be fruitful
and the continuous achievements will further strengthen my reputation. I am
already recognized by the society and the top scientists. Those slander
messages will not damage my image among the top scientists. I hope the young
students who do not know the facts are not affected and I encourage the
young students to communicate with me directly. I am happy to help you.
-----------------
他邀请大家申请他的项目，亲自证实事实将是如何。
发表于 2012-11-13 01:19:21 |只看该作者 |倒序浏览
有了解俄亥俄州立大学ECE的Prof. Guoqiang Li的情况的么，目前反被他陶瓷~主要搞
激光的。
（寄托管理员阿颜附加：
楼主的询问贴引来热议，远在美国的李国强教授本人也知道了。他and many
colleagues in the optics community 对于那些负面评价和近乎谩骂的回复很不解，
认为与事实相去甚远。所以他写mail给我，做了一些陈述。为了信息公平，这里一并贴
出，希望能帮大家更好做出判断。
寄托是一个提供信息展示、沟通和交流的平台，我们力求做到公平和公正，但是我们没
有能力去评判究竟哪个才是真相，只是希望能尽量提供给大家更透明、更立体的信息，
也希望每个发表个人评价的同学能够真的尊重事实，用理智和客观的态度来帮助后来人
了解真相。
以下是李教授的邮件内容节选：
I give a brief introduction of myself. I have a successful track of record
in my career. I was promoted to full professor and PhD advisor in 1999 just
before I came to US. I was among the youngest PhD advisors at that time in
Chinese Academy of Sciences. After coming to US, I continue to work hard and
adapt myself to the American culture and working ethics. I was promoted
gradually to a research faculty member at University of Arizona, a tenure-
track faculty member at University of Missouri-St. Louis, and a tenured
faculty member at The Ohio State University.
My work is well known in my field and I am a respected professor in the
world. Because of my reputation, I was nominated to the Division Chair of
the Optical Society of America and I have been frequently invited to give
talks across the world, including in Beijing, Shanghai, Nanjing, etc. in
China. My grants went through peer review by the top scientists and I am
well funded by the US government. Recently I pay more attention to the
impact of the work.
I wrote the whole proposal that was funded and led to an article in Nature.
Of course I am proud of it. It was based on my technique that we obtained
the result. The order of the author does not always reflect the real
contributions and sometimes attention is paid to the success of the project.
I would like to let you know that I treat everybody I recruited extremely
nicely and I always do things with logic thinking and in a professional
manner. Before I recruit anybody, I already have the ideas for him/her to
work on and try to ask them to prepare for the project. I create an
excellent working environment for everybody to allow them to be productive
and successful. As long as they can follow my ideas and have the ability to
do the work, they can submit the papers to the journals.
Unfortunately when I worked at University of Missouri - St. Louis (UMSL),the
general quality of the applicants was not so competitive. So I did not
recruit anybody nearly for the first 2 years and during that time I built
the state-of-the-art optics lab mainly by myself. But I had to get some
people to work in the lab and take data. So I started to hire visiting
scholars, postdocs, and graduate students. I stayed there for less than 3.5
years in total. So it is normal that those people work with me for less than
1.5 years before I moved to a much better university. Some visitors are
supposed to work for a few months and the student for internship was
supposed to work just for summer. It is ok that some people may change their
interests and have different thoughts. A few people who worked with me
before expressed to me recently that they want to join my group again at OSU.
Once again, I treated those people at UMSL very well. Because nobody else in
my lab had a car, I almost picked everybody up at the airport and helped
them to find the apartments. Sometimes I took them to the supermarket for
shopping and took them for lunch or dinner. I indeed tried to create an
environment like a family.
I moved to The Ohio State University one year ago. In the beginning I
recruited two people without interview and just based on simple reference
and there were some problems. At here the general quality of the people that
are recruited is much better and I can get excellent postdocs. Right now I
have three postdocs and two students and they are productive and have good
personality. I did more strict screening and careful interview and I
requested their supervisor's reference letters.
I just list some basic facts here. Those slander messages are so ridiculous
and make no sense. I know one person has been creating different accounts
and writing mulple messages. Many professors asked me to ingore such
messages. I like to be open and frank. I am having a group at OSU that is
getting better and better, and I am confident that my lab will be fruitful
and the continuous achievements will further strengthen my reputation. I am
already recognized by the society and the top scientists. Those slander
messages will not damage my image among the top scientists. I hope the young
students who do not know the facts are not affected and I encourage the
young students to communicate with me directly. I am happy to help you.
-----------------
他邀请大家申请他的项目，亲自证实事实将是如何。
b*n
11 楼
李教授这个语录蛮有意思的
1， 我和你communication有问题啊！
2， 咱们的communication出了很大问题，弄得我没法正常生活了。
3， 我和你communication很好，以前招的学生都不如你好。
4， 以前的学生太差劲了，有工作时间睡觉的，有坐在那一天啥也不干的，有要结婚生
孩子的，还有听不懂人话的。
5， 我像你这么大的时候已经发过40多篇Journal paper了。
6， 你做的这些work我2个小时就能搞定。
7， 以前XX大学搞了三年的研究都没出成果，我去了后一个星期就搞出来了。
8， 我来美国是放弃了国内的一切，要不现在早就是中科院XX所所长了，副部级待遇！
9， XX地方不要随便进去，都是有国家机密的，只有像我这种有绿卡的人才能进去。
10，我最近funding有些紧张，所以给你钱不能给太多，但是你放心，美国这里吃饭的
话一个月100美元足够你随便吃了。
11，我每天都在学习胡锦涛治国的方法来管理我的group。
12，干了这么久，怎么还没有试验结果，要让我干我半个小时就干出来了！
13, 你做的这些work都是很routine的，像C++这种东西都是很easy的东西....你再给我
讲一下这个是啥？C++中的class是啥？
14, 你看看XX给我写的manuscript，we plan to publish it on Nature, I'm only
interested in working with excellent scientist. I'm scientist, so my
students should also be scientist, you are not qualified to be my student.
15, 以后离开实验室超过半个小时必须提前通知我。
16, 以后除了国内家人有病重或者其他emergency的事情，否则不许回国。
17, 你上厕所需要20分钟？
18, 在这个学校，我只看得起XX， XX， 其他的人都在混，他们看我拿到了funding就
眼红了。
19, 以前的人都是我fire他们的，他们都不好好干活也不好好学习，XX那都是GPA不到3
.0的学生。
20, 推荐我tenure的人都是一流学者科学家，还有诺贝尔奖得主。
【在 w********a 的大作中提到】
: -------------------------------------------------------------
: 发表于 2012-11-13 01:19:21 |只看该作者 |倒序浏览
: 有了解俄亥俄州立大学ECE的Prof. Guoqiang Li的情况的么，目前反被他陶瓷~主要搞
: 激光的。
: （寄托管理员阿颜附加：
: 楼主的询问贴引来热议，远在美国的李国强教授本人也知道了。他and many
: colleagues in the optics community 对于那些负面评价和近乎谩骂的回复很不解，
: 认为与事实相去甚远。所以他写mail给我，做了一些陈述。为了信息公平，这里一并贴
: 出，希望能帮大家更好做出判断。
: 寄托是一个提供信息展示、沟通和交流的平台，我们力求做到公平和公正，但是我们没
1， 我和你communication有问题啊！
2， 咱们的communication出了很大问题，弄得我没法正常生活了。
3， 我和你communication很好，以前招的学生都不如你好。
4， 以前的学生太差劲了，有工作时间睡觉的，有坐在那一天啥也不干的，有要结婚生
孩子的，还有听不懂人话的。
5， 我像你这么大的时候已经发过40多篇Journal paper了。
6， 你做的这些work我2个小时就能搞定。
7， 以前XX大学搞了三年的研究都没出成果，我去了后一个星期就搞出来了。
8， 我来美国是放弃了国内的一切，要不现在早就是中科院XX所所长了，副部级待遇！
9， XX地方不要随便进去，都是有国家机密的，只有像我这种有绿卡的人才能进去。
10，我最近funding有些紧张，所以给你钱不能给太多，但是你放心，美国这里吃饭的
话一个月100美元足够你随便吃了。
11，我每天都在学习胡锦涛治国的方法来管理我的group。
12，干了这么久，怎么还没有试验结果，要让我干我半个小时就干出来了！
13, 你做的这些work都是很routine的，像C++这种东西都是很easy的东西....你再给我
讲一下这个是啥？C++中的class是啥？
14, 你看看XX给我写的manuscript，we plan to publish it on Nature, I'm only
interested in working with excellent scientist. I'm scientist, so my
students should also be scientist, you are not qualified to be my student.
15, 以后离开实验室超过半个小时必须提前通知我。
16, 以后除了国内家人有病重或者其他emergency的事情，否则不许回国。
17, 你上厕所需要20分钟？
18, 在这个学校，我只看得起XX， XX， 其他的人都在混，他们看我拿到了funding就
眼红了。
19, 以前的人都是我fire他们的，他们都不好好干活也不好好学习，XX那都是GPA不到3
.0的学生。
20, 推荐我tenure的人都是一流学者科学家，还有诺贝尔奖得主。
【在 w********a 的大作中提到】
: -------------------------------------------------------------
: 发表于 2012-11-13 01:19:21 |只看该作者 |倒序浏览
: 有了解俄亥俄州立大学ECE的Prof. Guoqiang Li的情况的么，目前反被他陶瓷~主要搞
: 激光的。
: （寄托管理员阿颜附加：
: 楼主的询问贴引来热议，远在美国的李国强教授本人也知道了。他and many
: colleagues in the optics community 对于那些负面评价和近乎谩骂的回复很不解，
: 认为与事实相去甚远。所以他写mail给我，做了一些陈述。为了信息公平，这里一并贴
: 出，希望能帮大家更好做出判断。
: 寄托是一个提供信息展示、沟通和交流的平台，我们力求做到公平和公正，但是我们没
V*3
12 楼
你怎么知道的李教授的语录？
【在 b******n 的大作中提到】
: 李教授这个语录蛮有意思的
: 1， 我和你communication有问题啊！
: 2， 咱们的communication出了很大问题，弄得我没法正常生活了。
: 3， 我和你communication很好，以前招的学生都不如你好。
: 4， 以前的学生太差劲了，有工作时间睡觉的，有坐在那一天啥也不干的，有要结婚生
: 孩子的，还有听不懂人话的。
: 5， 我像你这么大的时候已经发过40多篇Journal paper了。
: 6， 你做的这些work我2个小时就能搞定。
: 7， 以前XX大学搞了三年的研究都没出成果，我去了后一个星期就搞出来了。
: 8， 我来美国是放弃了国内的一切，要不现在早就是中科院XX所所长了，副部级待遇！
【在 b******n 的大作中提到】
: 李教授这个语录蛮有意思的
: 1， 我和你communication有问题啊！
: 2， 咱们的communication出了很大问题，弄得我没法正常生活了。
: 3， 我和你communication很好，以前招的学生都不如你好。
: 4， 以前的学生太差劲了，有工作时间睡觉的，有坐在那一天啥也不干的，有要结婚生
: 孩子的，还有听不懂人话的。
: 5， 我像你这么大的时候已经发过40多篇Journal paper了。
: 6， 你做的这些work我2个小时就能搞定。
: 7， 以前XX大学搞了三年的研究都没出成果，我去了后一个星期就搞出来了。
: 8， 我来美国是放弃了国内的一切，要不现在早就是中科院XX所所长了，副部级待遇！
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