Re: 有没有咨询公司的ranking# Business - 商学院
Q*o
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n*r
2 楼
在上海招复旦和交大的学生.
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http://www.vault.com/nr/consulting_rankings/consulting_rankings.jsp?consulting
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http://www.vault.com/nr/consulting_rankings/consulting_rankings.jsp?consulting
x*g
3 楼
8000rmb for analyst in beijing.
mck recruits peking and tsinghua .
most students who got in mck are masters. few under.
but mck sponsor ur future MBA in US.
at least beijing office do that.
3 year analysts is about 30k rmb, i heard of that from friends.
in general, they got about 30 onsite interviews in the whole beijing area
then 10 second onsite
then, 3 or 4 can get in mck.
the english of all guys there are very good.
thw whole process is case study in english.
about 4 or 6 case study.
almost
mck recruits peking and tsinghua .
most students who got in mck are masters. few under.
but mck sponsor ur future MBA in US.
at least beijing office do that.
3 year analysts is about 30k rmb, i heard of that from friends.
in general, they got about 30 onsite interviews in the whole beijing area
then 10 second onsite
then, 3 or 4 can get in mck.
the english of all guys there are very good.
thw whole process is case study in english.
about 4 or 6 case study.
almost
c*e
4 楼
But if you look at bios of the consultants or vice presidents or even
partners/principals at these elite firms in China, many of them boast an
INSEAD MBA. INSEAD seems to have pretty good reputation within the consulting
circle. And if you look at the placement statistics on INSEAD's website,
McKinsey hired a whopping 60 people in 2001(42 of these 60 are former
McKinseyers, though).
alum?
【在 x******g 的大作中提到】
: 8000rmb for analyst in beijing.
: mck recruits peking and tsinghua .
: most students who got in mck are masters. few under.
: but mck sponsor ur future MBA in US.
: at least beijing office do that.
: 3 year analysts is about 30k rmb, i heard of that from friends.
: in general, they got about 30 onsite interviews in the whole beijing area
: then 10 second onsite
: then, 3 or 4 can get in mck.
: the english of all guys there are very good.
partners/principals at these elite firms in China, many of them boast an
INSEAD MBA. INSEAD seems to have pretty good reputation within the consulting
circle. And if you look at the placement statistics on INSEAD's website,
McKinsey hired a whopping 60 people in 2001(42 of these 60 are former
McKinseyers, though).
alum?
【在 x******g 的大作中提到】
: 8000rmb for analyst in beijing.
: mck recruits peking and tsinghua .
: most students who got in mck are masters. few under.
: but mck sponsor ur future MBA in US.
: at least beijing office do that.
: 3 year analysts is about 30k rmb, i heard of that from friends.
: in general, they got about 30 onsite interviews in the whole beijing area
: then 10 second onsite
: then, 3 or 4 can get in mck.
: the english of all guys there are very good.
c*e
5 楼
Point taken. Maybe I should go to Mississippi State for my MBA. :)
Only 15 in total? Is this number for a lean year like this year or is it the
case for all the years? Assuming that the IBs hire the same number of people
in China, then we have only about 30 slots for 200+ Chinese in US top 10s.
Pretty disencouraging numbers indeed.
By the way, jazzcat, how is the job-hunting scene at the top 10 you are in? I
heard it is fairly bleak this year. Where do the Chinese students at these
schools who c
Only 15 in total? Is this number for a lean year like this year or is it the
case for all the years? Assuming that the IBs hire the same number of people
in China, then we have only about 30 slots for 200+ Chinese in US top 10s.
Pretty disencouraging numbers indeed.
By the way, jazzcat, how is the job-hunting scene at the top 10 you are in? I
heard it is fairly bleak this year. Where do the Chinese students at these
schools who c
c*e
6 楼
But the positions at citi shanghai that pays American salary are probably
reserved for senior managers. They probably won't hire MBAs fresh out of
school
for these senior management positions.
One
me
about,
costs,
reserved for senior managers. They probably won't hire MBAs fresh out of
school
for these senior management positions.
One
me
about,
costs,
s*o
7 楼
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
McKinsey BTO is not doing exceedingly well in the US. BTO value proprosition
is not core to McKinsey's stated goal of shaping top management agenda. Most
of BTO's work nowadays is business outsourcing/offshoring strategy (e.g.,
should you outsoure, how do select vendor and negotiate prices, etc.). That
is not exactly work that would be on top of a CEO's mind, and it is not a
sustainable model as most firms make this ki
McKinsey BTO is not doing exceedingly well in the US. BTO value proprosition
is not core to McKinsey's stated goal of shaping top management agenda. Most
of BTO's work nowadays is business outsourcing/offshoring strategy (e.g.,
should you outsoure, how do select vendor and negotiate prices, etc.). That
is not exactly work that would be on top of a CEO's mind, and it is not a
sustainable model as most firms make this ki
C*o
8 楼
班朱可以做一个合计么？
多谢。
【在 s****o 的大作中提到】
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: McKinsey BTO is not doing exceedingly well in the US. BTO value proprosition
: is not core to McKinsey's stated goal of shaping top management agenda. Most
: of BTO's work nowadays is business outsourcing/offshoring strategy (e.g.,
: should you outsoure, how do select vendor and negotiate prices, etc.). That
: is not exactly work that would be on top of a CEO's mind, and it is not a
: sustainable model as most firms make this ki
多谢。
【在 s****o 的大作中提到】
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: McKinsey BTO is not doing exceedingly well in the US. BTO value proprosition
: is not core to McKinsey's stated goal of shaping top management agenda. Most
: of BTO's work nowadays is business outsourcing/offshoring strategy (e.g.,
: should you outsoure, how do select vendor and negotiate prices, etc.). That
: is not exactly work that would be on top of a CEO's mind, and it is not a
: sustainable model as most firms make this ki
c*e
9 楼
My view is that IT has to be integrated into today's consulting business, one
way or another, as it has become ubiquitous in today's enterprises. Take a
look at the project McKinsey did with Star Group in China. Even though the
project per se is only about re-structuring Star's sales/distribution
organization to achieve greater efficiency and effectiveness, the medicine
doled out by McKinsey failed miserably because Star doesn't have the IT
infrastructure to back it up. To achieve the kind of ef
【在 s****o 的大作中提到】
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: McKinsey BTO is not doing exceedingly well in the US. BTO value proprosition
: is not core to McKinsey's stated goal of shaping top management agenda. Most
: of BTO's work nowadays is business outsourcing/offshoring strategy (e.g.,
: should you outsoure, how do select vendor and negotiate prices, etc.). That
: is not exactly work that would be on top of a CEO's mind, and it is not a
: sustainable model as most firms make this ki
way or another, as it has become ubiquitous in today's enterprises. Take a
look at the project McKinsey did with Star Group in China. Even though the
project per se is only about re-structuring Star's sales/distribution
organization to achieve greater efficiency and effectiveness, the medicine
doled out by McKinsey failed miserably because Star doesn't have the IT
infrastructure to back it up. To achieve the kind of ef
【在 s****o 的大作中提到】
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: McKinsey BTO is not doing exceedingly well in the US. BTO value proprosition
: is not core to McKinsey's stated goal of shaping top management agenda. Most
: of BTO's work nowadays is business outsourcing/offshoring strategy (e.g.,
: should you outsoure, how do select vendor and negotiate prices, etc.). That
: is not exactly work that would be on top of a CEO's mind, and it is not a
: sustainable model as most firms make this ki
c*e
10 楼
FYI. Article from http://www.consultinginfo.com
IS STRATEGY DEAD?
The Economist (Nov. 2) suggests that strategy consulting is wasting away. Like
the balding football star years past his last touchdown, strategy consultants
would rather regale crowds with past exploits than face their bleak future.
Despite its cliched title ("Consultant, heal thyself"), the article actually
offers an interesting premise to explain the industry’s glorious 1990s run.
The emergence of technology as a business driver
IS STRATEGY DEAD?
The Economist (Nov. 2) suggests that strategy consulting is wasting away. Like
the balding football star years past his last touchdown, strategy consultants
would rather regale crowds with past exploits than face their bleak future.
Despite its cliched title ("Consultant, heal thyself"), the article actually
offers an interesting premise to explain the industry’s glorious 1990s run.
The emergence of technology as a business driver
c*e
11 楼
Another article from the same website. The writer talks about how various
kinds of consulting have to combined to provide the best result for clients.
/*****************************************************************/
STRATEGY CONSULTING FUSION
A former consulting curmudgeon once characterized the blending of strategy and
technology consulting as "cold fusion" -- excellent in theory but impossible
to accomplish.
Such promulgations were widely repeated seven years ago, when EDS acquired AT
Kearn
kinds of consulting have to combined to provide the best result for clients.
/*****************************************************************/
STRATEGY CONSULTING FUSION
A former consulting curmudgeon once characterized the blending of strategy and
technology consulting as "cold fusion" -- excellent in theory but impossible
to accomplish.
Such promulgations were widely repeated seven years ago, when EDS acquired AT
Kearn
x*g
12 楼
that is why Accenture has strategy group.
Mck also help clients impliment IT inforstructure in hongKong and US.
not sure in china.
at least the Mckers in beijing office are not that good.
that is another reason that Mck did some bad cases in china.
【在 c******e 的大作中提到】
: My view is that IT has to be integrated into today's consulting business, one
: way or another, as it has become ubiquitous in today's enterprises. Take a
: look at the project McKinsey did with Star Group in China. Even though the
: project per se is only about re-structuring Star's sales/distribution
: organization to achieve greater efficiency and effectiveness, the medicine
: doled out by McKinsey failed miserably because Star doesn't have the IT
: infrastructure to back it up. To achieve the kind of ef
Mck also help clients impliment IT inforstructure in hongKong and US.
not sure in china.
at least the Mckers in beijing office are not that good.
that is another reason that Mck did some bad cases in china.
【在 c******e 的大作中提到】
: My view is that IT has to be integrated into today's consulting business, one
: way or another, as it has become ubiquitous in today's enterprises. Take a
: look at the project McKinsey did with Star Group in China. Even though the
: project per se is only about re-structuring Star's sales/distribution
: organization to achieve greater efficiency and effectiveness, the medicine
: doled out by McKinsey failed miserably because Star doesn't have the IT
: infrastructure to back it up. To achieve the kind of ef
x*g
13 楼
strategy consulting is still promising , i think
at least I admire Mck,
look at the ppl who was in McK are CEO of big names, such as IBM former CEO.
in such bad market, Mck of new york office is still hiring
associate and consultant.
【在 c******e 的大作中提到】
: Another article from the same website. The writer talks about how various
: kinds of consulting have to combined to provide the best result for clients.
: /*****************************************************************/
: STRATEGY CONSULTING FUSION
: A former consulting curmudgeon once characterized the blending of strategy and
: technology consulting as "cold fusion" -- excellent in theory but impossible
: to accomplish.
: Such promulgations were widely repeated seven years ago, when EDS acquired AT
: Kearn
at least I admire Mck,
look at the ppl who was in McK are CEO of big names, such as IBM former CEO.
in such bad market, Mck of new york office is still hiring
associate and consultant.
【在 c******e 的大作中提到】
: Another article from the same website. The writer talks about how various
: kinds of consulting have to combined to provide the best result for clients.
: /*****************************************************************/
: STRATEGY CONSULTING FUSION
: A former consulting curmudgeon once characterized the blending of strategy and
: technology consulting as "cold fusion" -- excellent in theory but impossible
: to accomplish.
: Such promulgations were widely repeated seven years ago, when EDS acquired AT
: Kearn
j*t
14 楼
Hehe, CEO of Enron.
【在 x******g 的大作中提到】
: strategy consulting is still promising , i think
: at least I admire Mck,
: look at the ppl who was in McK are CEO of big names, such as IBM former CEO.
: in such bad market, Mck of new york office is still hiring
: associate and consultant.
【在 x******g 的大作中提到】
: strategy consulting is still promising , i think
: at least I admire Mck,
: look at the ppl who was in McK are CEO of big names, such as IBM former CEO.
: in such bad market, Mck of new york office is still hiring
: associate and consultant.
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