b*r
2 楼
A friend mentioned "The chance for a general chemical engineer to be in
upstream, (except doing experiments), is comparably slim. "
In contrast, chance for a general chemical engineer to be in upstream is
quite good. Many reservoir engineers have chemical engineering background.
CHE engineer's role in upstream business is not just confined in doing
experiment. More importantly, they will contribute to the business by
quantifying, scaling up and commercializing a complexed problem using thei
upstream, (except doing experiments), is comparably slim. "
In contrast, chance for a general chemical engineer to be in upstream is
quite good. Many reservoir engineers have chemical engineering background.
CHE engineer's role in upstream business is not just confined in doing
experiment. More importantly, they will contribute to the business by
quantifying, scaling up and commercializing a complexed problem using thei
wh
3 楼
还是喜欢陈淑桦的哎。
【在 M****N 的大作中提到】
【在 M****N 的大作中提到】
y*a
4 楼
true and untrue.
Many reservoir engineers have che background does not mean that chemical
engineers can easily transfer to a reservoir engineer. The most important
knowledge a chemical engineer lacks includes petrophysics, geology and fluid
through porous media. Without knowing this (although they does not take
much time), a chemical engineer can still be working as a chemical engineer
for the upstream, but not in the upstream.
As such, the most easiest (and niche) for a chemical engineer is i
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: A friend mentioned "The chance for a general chemical engineer to be in
: upstream, (except doing experiments), is comparably slim. "
: In contrast, chance for a general chemical engineer to be in upstream is
: quite good. Many reservoir engineers have chemical engineering background.
: CHE engineer's role in upstream business is not just confined in doing
: experiment. More importantly, they will contribute to the business by
: quantifying, scaling up and commercializing a complexed problem using thei
Many reservoir engineers have che background does not mean that chemical
engineers can easily transfer to a reservoir engineer. The most important
knowledge a chemical engineer lacks includes petrophysics, geology and fluid
through porous media. Without knowing this (although they does not take
much time), a chemical engineer can still be working as a chemical engineer
for the upstream, but not in the upstream.
As such, the most easiest (and niche) for a chemical engineer is i
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: A friend mentioned "The chance for a general chemical engineer to be in
: upstream, (except doing experiments), is comparably slim. "
: In contrast, chance for a general chemical engineer to be in upstream is
: quite good. Many reservoir engineers have chemical engineering background.
: CHE engineer's role in upstream business is not just confined in doing
: experiment. More importantly, they will contribute to the business by
: quantifying, scaling up and commercializing a complexed problem using thei
A*s
5 楼
偶喜欢迪克牛仔的
【在 wh 的大作中提到】
: 还是喜欢陈淑桦的哎。
【在 wh 的大作中提到】
: 还是喜欢陈淑桦的哎。
b*r
6 楼
hi, thanks for your input. so you believe that without knowledge in
petrophysics, geology and porous media flow, it is very tough for cheme
engineer to work in upstream? so you believe that cheme engineer's role in
upstream is limited in polymer , surfactant flooding or phase behavior
related job?
Is porous media flow a laminar flow type? We cheme engineer have good
traning in fluid transport phenomena, mass, momentum and energy balance,
including laminar and turbulance flow. We know how to de
petrophysics, geology and porous media flow, it is very tough for cheme
engineer to work in upstream? so you believe that cheme engineer's role in
upstream is limited in polymer , surfactant flooding or phase behavior
related job?
Is porous media flow a laminar flow type? We cheme engineer have good
traning in fluid transport phenomena, mass, momentum and energy balance,
including laminar and turbulance flow. We know how to de
A*s
7 楼
Fiona的普通话居然这么好
y*a
8 楼
First, I would need to point out that flow in porous media is NOT laminar
flow in 99% the case, if not all. Flow in reservoir is nevertheless
extremely different from that packing column.
Owing to the low oil prices in the past 20 years, almost 50% of workforce in
oil industry will be in retirement in the next 5-10 years. On the other
hand, there may be about 20 PhDs in petroleum engineer (including
petrophysics, drilling, production and reservoir, but exclude geology.) each
year produced in t
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: hi, thanks for your input. so you believe that without knowledge in
: petrophysics, geology and porous media flow, it is very tough for cheme
: engineer to work in upstream? so you believe that cheme engineer's role in
: upstream is limited in polymer , surfactant flooding or phase behavior
: related job?
: Is porous media flow a laminar flow type? We cheme engineer have good
: traning in fluid transport phenomena, mass, momentum and energy balance,
: including laminar and turbulance flow. We know how to de
flow in 99% the case, if not all. Flow in reservoir is nevertheless
extremely different from that packing column.
Owing to the low oil prices in the past 20 years, almost 50% of workforce in
oil industry will be in retirement in the next 5-10 years. On the other
hand, there may be about 20 PhDs in petroleum engineer (including
petrophysics, drilling, production and reservoir, but exclude geology.) each
year produced in t
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: hi, thanks for your input. so you believe that without knowledge in
: petrophysics, geology and porous media flow, it is very tough for cheme
: engineer to work in upstream? so you believe that cheme engineer's role in
: upstream is limited in polymer , surfactant flooding or phase behavior
: related job?
: Is porous media flow a laminar flow type? We cheme engineer have good
: traning in fluid transport phenomena, mass, momentum and energy balance,
: including laminar and turbulance flow. We know how to de
M*N
9 楼
恩，youtube上的comment说好像不是她的声音。
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: Fiona的普通话居然这么好
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: Fiona的普通话居然这么好
l*w
10 楼
Well, I am not sure how do you define upstream.
To me, upstream is from reservoir all the way to the receiving platform,
refinary and ect.
How much do you think petropysics, geology and fluid through porous media
will do for outflow in wellbore, flowline and riser? And subsea processing
uints?
Once the fluid is out of the reservoir into the wellbore, most or all the
workwill be done by chemical and mechanical engineers.
Reservoir engineerning is part of the upstream, but not all.
For a chemical
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: true and untrue.
: Many reservoir engineers have che background does not mean that chemical
: engineers can easily transfer to a reservoir engineer. The most important
: knowledge a chemical engineer lacks includes petrophysics, geology and fluid
: through porous media. Without knowing this (although they does not take
: much time), a chemical engineer can still be working as a chemical engineer
: for the upstream, but not in the upstream.
: As such, the most easiest (and niche) for a chemical engineer is i
To me, upstream is from reservoir all the way to the receiving platform,
refinary and ect.
How much do you think petropysics, geology and fluid through porous media
will do for outflow in wellbore, flowline and riser? And subsea processing
uints?
Once the fluid is out of the reservoir into the wellbore, most or all the
workwill be done by chemical and mechanical engineers.
Reservoir engineerning is part of the upstream, but not all.
For a chemical
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: true and untrue.
: Many reservoir engineers have che background does not mean that chemical
: engineers can easily transfer to a reservoir engineer. The most important
: knowledge a chemical engineer lacks includes petrophysics, geology and fluid
: through porous media. Without knowing this (although they does not take
: much time), a chemical engineer can still be working as a chemical engineer
: for the upstream, but not in the upstream.
: As such, the most easiest (and niche) for a chemical engineer is i
l*w
11 楼
Flow through porous media for polymer fluid is elastic turbulence. No accept
ed mechanism yet to explain the nature of this turbulence. Discovered and pu
blished in Nature in 2000 or 2001, don't remember exactly.
in
each
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: First, I would need to point out that flow in porous media is NOT laminar
: flow in 99% the case, if not all. Flow in reservoir is nevertheless
: extremely different from that packing column.
: Owing to the low oil prices in the past 20 years, almost 50% of workforce in
: oil industry will be in retirement in the next 5-10 years. On the other
: hand, there may be about 20 PhDs in petroleum engineer (including
: petrophysics, drilling, production and reservoir, but exclude geology.) each
: year produced in t
ed mechanism yet to explain the nature of this turbulence. Discovered and pu
blished in Nature in 2000 or 2001, don't remember exactly.
in
each
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: First, I would need to point out that flow in porous media is NOT laminar
: flow in 99% the case, if not all. Flow in reservoir is nevertheless
: extremely different from that packing column.
: Owing to the low oil prices in the past 20 years, almost 50% of workforce in
: oil industry will be in retirement in the next 5-10 years. On the other
: hand, there may be about 20 PhDs in petroleum engineer (including
: petrophysics, drilling, production and reservoir, but exclude geology.) each
: year produced in t
b*r
12 楼
Dont you upstream guys use Darcy flow to approximately quantify reservoir
flow in most cases except at wellbore or conduits? Darcy flow is a linear
flow only valid in the range of laminar flow?
What is the difference between reservoir flow and distillation column flow?
Both are porous media flow, one flow through rock and another flow through
structured or randomally packing column. Both have to deal with fluid with
mass, momentum and energy balance. Geologic model is more complicated than
stru
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: First, I would need to point out that flow in porous media is NOT laminar
: flow in 99% the case, if not all. Flow in reservoir is nevertheless
: extremely different from that packing column.
: Owing to the low oil prices in the past 20 years, almost 50% of workforce in
: oil industry will be in retirement in the next 5-10 years. On the other
: hand, there may be about 20 PhDs in petroleum engineer (including
: petrophysics, drilling, production and reservoir, but exclude geology.) each
: year produced in t
flow in most cases except at wellbore or conduits? Darcy flow is a linear
flow only valid in the range of laminar flow?
What is the difference between reservoir flow and distillation column flow?
Both are porous media flow, one flow through rock and another flow through
structured or randomally packing column. Both have to deal with fluid with
mass, momentum and energy balance. Geologic model is more complicated than
stru
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: First, I would need to point out that flow in porous media is NOT laminar
: flow in 99% the case, if not all. Flow in reservoir is nevertheless
: extremely different from that packing column.
: Owing to the low oil prices in the past 20 years, almost 50% of workforce in
: oil industry will be in retirement in the next 5-10 years. On the other
: hand, there may be about 20 PhDs in petroleum engineer (including
: petrophysics, drilling, production and reservoir, but exclude geology.) each
: year produced in t
y*a
13 楼
原命题是化工是否能对能源的发展有益，而不是学化工的能不能在上游找到工作。按照
你的说法，我还可以说一个心理咨询师也可以在石油公司工作，甚至在平台工作，那你
是否也认为他的工作对上游意义重大呢,是否也是在作上游呢？正如我所说，学石油的
人很少，而需求很大，这必然使其它行业的也可以进入石油行业。但是，我们应该了解
到，很多人仅仅是为了进入石油而进入石油界，从事的工作范围也没有脱离以前所学，
并且没有代来更新的观念。比如，作 drilling and production, 为什么不用学习力学
的呢？起码流体力学和岩石力学对于他们更对口。作油藏工程的，为什么不用水资源／
水利的呢？
现在的问题是，化工与其它学科相比有什么优势，能让石油公司更倾向于化工而不是机
械？化工的特色是什么？化工人的特长是什么？在我看来，化工最大的特长就是杂，所
以可以将很多关联的学科有机地结合起来，而不是有意去分割开来。Engineering is
talking about compromise, talking about optimization, talking about solution
. 在所有的工
【在 l*w 的大作中提到】
: Well, I am not sure how do you define upstream.
: To me, upstream is from reservoir all the way to the receiving platform,
: refinary and ect.
: How much do you think petropysics, geology and fluid through porous media
: will do for outflow in wellbore, flowline and riser? And subsea processing
: uints?
: Once the fluid is out of the reservoir into the wellbore, most or all the
: workwill be done by chemical and mechanical engineers.
: Reservoir engineerning is part of the upstream, but not all.
: For a chemical
你的说法，我还可以说一个心理咨询师也可以在石油公司工作，甚至在平台工作，那你
是否也认为他的工作对上游意义重大呢,是否也是在作上游呢？正如我所说，学石油的
人很少，而需求很大，这必然使其它行业的也可以进入石油行业。但是，我们应该了解
到，很多人仅仅是为了进入石油而进入石油界，从事的工作范围也没有脱离以前所学，
并且没有代来更新的观念。比如，作 drilling and production, 为什么不用学习力学
的呢？起码流体力学和岩石力学对于他们更对口。作油藏工程的，为什么不用水资源／
水利的呢？
现在的问题是，化工与其它学科相比有什么优势，能让石油公司更倾向于化工而不是机
械？化工的特色是什么？化工人的特长是什么？在我看来，化工最大的特长就是杂，所
以可以将很多关联的学科有机地结合起来，而不是有意去分割开来。Engineering is
talking about compromise, talking about optimization, talking about solution
. 在所有的工
【在 l*w 的大作中提到】
: Well, I am not sure how do you define upstream.
: To me, upstream is from reservoir all the way to the receiving platform,
: refinary and ect.
: How much do you think petropysics, geology and fluid through porous media
: will do for outflow in wellbore, flowline and riser? And subsea processing
: uints?
: Once the fluid is out of the reservoir into the wellbore, most or all the
: workwill be done by chemical and mechanical engineers.
: Reservoir engineerning is part of the upstream, but not all.
: For a chemical
k*i
14 楼
很高兴大家对这个主题很有兴趣。
各位讨论一下能源方面和化工的关系不错，
顺便讨论一下学化工的在能源方向能做哪些工作也很好。
并不冲突。
需要的话可以考虑把其中一个话题单独起个主题。
谢谢
各位讨论一下能源方面和化工的关系不错，
顺便讨论一下学化工的在能源方向能做哪些工作也很好。
并不冲突。
需要的话可以考虑把其中一个话题单独起个主题。
谢谢
y*a
15 楼
Totally agree with g&g role although myself is an engineer.
Regarding the stupidity, that is largely because of the nature of companies.
Public companies are responsible for the shareholders, and if they are
more conservative (e.g. in laying off ppl and keep bottomline), the stock
price would drop, and thus the executives are under pressure and ppl would
go to other companies that are willing to keep bottomline. Large NOC, in
oil downturn, need to pump more oil out-of-ground to keep the nati
Regarding the stupidity, that is largely because of the nature of companies.
Public companies are responsible for the shareholders, and if they are
more conservative (e.g. in laying off ppl and keep bottomline), the stock
price would drop, and thus the executives are under pressure and ppl would
go to other companies that are willing to keep bottomline. Large NOC, in
oil downturn, need to pump more oil out-of-ground to keep the nati
y*a
16 楼
Depends on years. It would be difficult for UT to contribute more than 6
phds per year (among 20+ faculty members), and still the largest phd program
in the US. Stanford has only 9 faculty members. Tulsa maybe producing one or two, OU/CSM/PSU all in single digit.
It maybe true that 20 is conservative, but it would be very hard NOWADAYS to produce too many over that number. 50 is definately too many for the small number of faculty in the US. Another thing is MS is usually 6 times overnumber p
phds per year (among 20+ faculty members), and still the largest phd program
in the US. Stanford has only 9 faculty members. Tulsa maybe producing one or two, OU/CSM/PSU all in single digit.
It maybe true that 20 is conservative, but it would be very hard NOWADAYS to produce too many over that number. 50 is definately too many for the small number of faculty in the US. Another thing is MS is usually 6 times overnumber p
b*r
17 楼
Hi you guys do think that the reason why oil industry hires chemical
engineers and other professionals is because there are not enough petro
engineers?
By your logic, if there are sufficient petroengineer in market, no any other
professional can get into upstream business?
If so, petroengineer is really sth.
background.
their
and
These
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: A friend mentioned "The chance for a general chemical engineer to be in
: upstream, (except doing experiments), is comparably slim. "
: In contrast, chance for a general chemical engineer to be in upstream is
: quite good. Many reservoir engineers have chemical engineering background.
: CHE engineer's role in upstream business is not just confined in doing
: experiment. More importantly, they will contribute to the business by
: quantifying, scaling up and commercializing a complexed problem using thei
engineers and other professionals is because there are not enough petro
engineers?
By your logic, if there are sufficient petroengineer in market, no any other
professional can get into upstream business?
If so, petroengineer is really sth.
background.
their
and
These
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: A friend mentioned "The chance for a general chemical engineer to be in
: upstream, (except doing experiments), is comparably slim. "
: In contrast, chance for a general chemical engineer to be in upstream is
: quite good. Many reservoir engineers have chemical engineering background.
: CHE engineer's role in upstream business is not just confined in doing
: experiment. More importantly, they will contribute to the business by
: quantifying, scaling up and commercializing a complexed problem using thei
b*r
18 楼
what is special about permeability? you guys cannot figure out way to
accurately
measure and scale up perm and then come here to scare we cheme engineers
using permeability. is not dimensionless permeabiity a special form of
transfer coefficient? we cheme engineer alreay know how to correctlate
mass and heat transfer coefficients in various fluid process, including
heterogeneous heat transfer media
can you upstream guys talk about something insight so that we could learn
anything useful from
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: 原命题是化工是否能对能源的发展有益，而不是学化工的能不能在上游找到工作。按照
: 你的说法，我还可以说一个心理咨询师也可以在石油公司工作，甚至在平台工作，那你
: 是否也认为他的工作对上游意义重大呢,是否也是在作上游呢？正如我所说，学石油的
: 人很少，而需求很大，这必然使其它行业的也可以进入石油行业。但是，我们应该了解
: 到，很多人仅仅是为了进入石油而进入石油界，从事的工作范围也没有脱离以前所学，
: 并且没有代来更新的观念。比如，作 drilling and production, 为什么不用学习力学
: 的呢？起码流体力学和岩石力学对于他们更对口。作油藏工程的，为什么不用水资源／
: 水利的呢？
: 现在的问题是，化工与其它学科相比有什么优势，能让石油公司更倾向于化工而不是机
: 械？化工的特色是什么？化工人的特长是什么？在我看来，化工最大的特长就是杂，所
accurately
measure and scale up perm and then come here to scare we cheme engineers
using permeability. is not dimensionless permeabiity a special form of
transfer coefficient? we cheme engineer alreay know how to correctlate
mass and heat transfer coefficients in various fluid process, including
heterogeneous heat transfer media
can you upstream guys talk about something insight so that we could learn
anything useful from
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: 原命题是化工是否能对能源的发展有益，而不是学化工的能不能在上游找到工作。按照
: 你的说法，我还可以说一个心理咨询师也可以在石油公司工作，甚至在平台工作，那你
: 是否也认为他的工作对上游意义重大呢,是否也是在作上游呢？正如我所说，学石油的
: 人很少，而需求很大，这必然使其它行业的也可以进入石油行业。但是，我们应该了解
: 到，很多人仅仅是为了进入石油而进入石油界，从事的工作范围也没有脱离以前所学，
: 并且没有代来更新的观念。比如，作 drilling and production, 为什么不用学习力学
: 的呢？起码流体力学和岩石力学对于他们更对口。作油藏工程的，为什么不用水资源／
: 水利的呢？
: 现在的问题是，化工与其它学科相比有什么优势，能让石油公司更倾向于化工而不是机
: 械？化工的特色是什么？化工人的特长是什么？在我看来，化工最大的特长就是杂，所
y*a
19 楼
Thanks for your input, but unfortunately, it is largely an imaginary wishful
thinking. As you mentioned in the previous thread:"More importantly, they
will contribute to the business by
quantifying, scaling up and commercializing a complexed problem ..." At the
first place, you have no idea of the origin and defination of the problem
yet, let along the other job duties.
Second, you mentioned AFM etc., diffusivity etc... which are pore scale
problems, that can never arise (as they were clouded
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: hi, thanks for your input. so you believe that without knowledge in
: petrophysics, geology and porous media flow, it is very tough for cheme
: engineer to work in upstream? so you believe that cheme engineer's role in
: upstream is limited in polymer , surfactant flooding or phase behavior
: related job?
: Is porous media flow a laminar flow type? We cheme engineer have good
: traning in fluid transport phenomena, mass, momentum and energy balance,
: including laminar and turbulance flow. We know how to de
thinking. As you mentioned in the previous thread:"More importantly, they
will contribute to the business by
quantifying, scaling up and commercializing a complexed problem ..." At the
first place, you have no idea of the origin and defination of the problem
yet, let along the other job duties.
Second, you mentioned AFM etc., diffusivity etc... which are pore scale
problems, that can never arise (as they were clouded
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: hi, thanks for your input. so you believe that without knowledge in
: petrophysics, geology and porous media flow, it is very tough for cheme
: engineer to work in upstream? so you believe that cheme engineer's role in
: upstream is limited in polymer , surfactant flooding or phase behavior
: related job?
: Is porous media flow a laminar flow type? We cheme engineer have good
: traning in fluid transport phenomena, mass, momentum and energy balance,
: including laminar and turbulance flow. We know how to de
l*w
20 楼
Do you really understand what I was talking about upstream?
From the every beginning of this topic people were talking about the
backgrouds, not the titles. Why you are so picky on the titles?
Have you heard of process engineer or facility engineer at all?
and
From the every beginning of this topic people were talking about the
backgrouds, not the titles. Why you are so picky on the titles?
Have you heard of process engineer or facility engineer at all?
and
b*r
21 楼
Only one paragraph about solving PDE is worthwhile for discussing. There are
no insights and supporting evidence in other paragraphs
Regarding solving PDE in multimillion cells, i suggest you think practically
since you work in industry not in academia. SCALE UP, SCALE UP, using one
SINGLE PC is more practical. Using faster linear solver to handle million
cells problem is well documented. When you talk about AX=B, inhomogenous
part. pls discuss professionally, both physically and numerical
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for your input, but unfortunately, it is largely an imaginary wishful
: thinking. As you mentioned in the previous thread:"More importantly, they
: will contribute to the business by
: quantifying, scaling up and commercializing a complexed problem ..." At the
: first place, you have no idea of the origin and defination of the problem
: yet, let along the other job duties.
: Second, you mentioned AFM etc., diffusivity etc... which are pore scale
: problems, that can never arise (as they were clouded
no insights and supporting evidence in other paragraphs
Regarding solving PDE in multimillion cells, i suggest you think practically
since you work in industry not in academia. SCALE UP, SCALE UP, using one
SINGLE PC is more practical. Using faster linear solver to handle million
cells problem is well documented. When you talk about AX=B, inhomogenous
part. pls discuss professionally, both physically and numerical
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for your input, but unfortunately, it is largely an imaginary wishful
: thinking. As you mentioned in the previous thread:"More importantly, they
: will contribute to the business by
: quantifying, scaling up and commercializing a complexed problem ..." At the
: first place, you have no idea of the origin and defination of the problem
: yet, let along the other job duties.
: Second, you mentioned AFM etc., diffusivity etc... which are pore scale
: problems, that can never arise (as they were clouded
h*y
22 楼
大侠们，以后还是发中文吧。
满眼英文看着眼花。
最好短点。看着看着就忘记上下文了。
are
practically
one
million
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: Only one paragraph about solving PDE is worthwhile for discussing. There are
: no insights and supporting evidence in other paragraphs
: Regarding solving PDE in multimillion cells, i suggest you think practically
: since you work in industry not in academia. SCALE UP, SCALE UP, using one
: SINGLE PC is more practical. Using faster linear solver to handle million
: cells problem is well documented. When you talk about AX=B, inhomogenous
: part. pls discuss professionally, both physically and numerical
满眼英文看着眼花。
最好短点。看着看着就忘记上下文了。
are
practically
one
million
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: Only one paragraph about solving PDE is worthwhile for discussing. There are
: no insights and supporting evidence in other paragraphs
: Regarding solving PDE in multimillion cells, i suggest you think practically
: since you work in industry not in academia. SCALE UP, SCALE UP, using one
: SINGLE PC is more practical. Using faster linear solver to handle million
: cells problem is well documented. When you talk about AX=B, inhomogenous
: part. pls discuss professionally, both physically and numerical
y*a
23 楼
Anyway, you still did not get. For PDE part, if it is only ONE time thing,
it is not a big deal at all. In each time step, there require ~2-5
interations (average about 4). There is ~3000-10000 (average about 6000)
time steps in each run. There are 200-3000 runs (average about 1000) for a
real simulation. That account for 24 million times solving for that million
by million matrix. If the grid number is twice as large (two million by
two million) or dual porosity and/or dual permeability,
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: Only one paragraph about solving PDE is worthwhile for discussing. There are
: no insights and supporting evidence in other paragraphs
: Regarding solving PDE in multimillion cells, i suggest you think practically
: since you work in industry not in academia. SCALE UP, SCALE UP, using one
: SINGLE PC is more practical. Using faster linear solver to handle million
: cells problem is well documented. When you talk about AX=B, inhomogenous
: part. pls discuss professionally, both physically and numerical
it is not a big deal at all. In each time step, there require ~2-5
interations (average about 4). There is ~3000-10000 (average about 6000)
time steps in each run. There are 200-3000 runs (average about 1000) for a
real simulation. That account for 24 million times solving for that million
by million matrix. If the grid number is twice as large (two million by
two million) or dual porosity and/or dual permeability,
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: Only one paragraph about solving PDE is worthwhile for discussing. There are
: no insights and supporting evidence in other paragraphs
: Regarding solving PDE in multimillion cells, i suggest you think practically
: since you work in industry not in academia. SCALE UP, SCALE UP, using one
: SINGLE PC is more practical. Using faster linear solver to handle million
: cells problem is well documented. When you talk about AX=B, inhomogenous
: part. pls discuss professionally, both physically and numerical
b*r
24 楼
Hi thanks a lot for your input. What you said about number of cells,
computation time and why millions cells needs are nothing new.
i am waitng for your input from aspect of physics and numerical error
analysis about PDE.
By the way, the reason why you upstream guys need so many cells is not
because of how large your field it. hint1. if you have homgoeneous scalar
perm, you will use much less number of cells (faster convergence rate). why?
hint2: numerical simulation around well is tougher, w
computation time and why millions cells needs are nothing new.
i am waitng for your input from aspect of physics and numerical error
analysis about PDE.
By the way, the reason why you upstream guys need so many cells is not
because of how large your field it. hint1. if you have homgoeneous scalar
perm, you will use much less number of cells (faster convergence rate). why?
hint2: numerical simulation around well is tougher, w
y*a
25 楼
1. Even if using homogeneous scaler perm, the number of cells will NOT be
less. Please find the reason in the original thread as I have specified
there. It will, however, make upscaling easier and agree with physcics.
2. Numerical solution around well is tougher, yes for IMPES (stability
reasons), no for fully implicit.
As such,the number of cells DOES depends on the size of the field, and more accurately the number of wells. BTW, you did not seem response to my question in that thread and I
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: Hi thanks a lot for your input. What you said about number of cells,
: computation time and why millions cells needs are nothing new.
: i am waitng for your input from aspect of physics and numerical error
: analysis about PDE.
: By the way, the reason why you upstream guys need so many cells is not
: because of how large your field it. hint1. if you have homgoeneous scalar
: perm, you will use much less number of cells (faster convergence rate). why?
: hint2: numerical simulation around well is tougher, w
less. Please find the reason in the original thread as I have specified
there. It will, however, make upscaling easier and agree with physcics.
2. Numerical solution around well is tougher, yes for IMPES (stability
reasons), no for fully implicit.
As such,the number of cells DOES depends on the size of the field, and more accurately the number of wells. BTW, you did not seem response to my question in that thread and I
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: Hi thanks a lot for your input. What you said about number of cells,
: computation time and why millions cells needs are nothing new.
: i am waitng for your input from aspect of physics and numerical error
: analysis about PDE.
: By the way, the reason why you upstream guys need so many cells is not
: because of how large your field it. hint1. if you have homgoeneous scalar
: perm, you will use much less number of cells (faster convergence rate). why?
: hint2: numerical simulation around well is tougher, w
e*m
26 楼
Learn a lot!
I'm working at a big oil company, and saw lots of Chem E in our building
wishful
they
the
characterization
of
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for your input, but unfortunately, it is largely an imaginary wishful
: thinking. As you mentioned in the previous thread:"More importantly, they
: will contribute to the business by
: quantifying, scaling up and commercializing a complexed problem ..." At the
: first place, you have no idea of the origin and defination of the problem
: yet, let along the other job duties.
: Second, you mentioned AFM etc., diffusivity etc... which are pore scale
: problems, that can never arise (as they were clouded
I'm working at a big oil company, and saw lots of Chem E in our building
wishful
they
the
characterization
of
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for your input, but unfortunately, it is largely an imaginary wishful
: thinking. As you mentioned in the previous thread:"More importantly, they
: will contribute to the business by
: quantifying, scaling up and commercializing a complexed problem ..." At the
: first place, you have no idea of the origin and defination of the problem
: yet, let along the other job duties.
: Second, you mentioned AFM etc., diffusivity etc... which are pore scale
: problems, that can never arise (as they were clouded
b*r
27 楼
I gave you a hint of numerical difficulty around well. Think about physics
and numerical issue around well. Think about heterogeneity. Number of cells
are not dependent on the number of wells if you think about physics and ...
......
hint3: think about gridding around the well, permeability around well, how
are they going to generate numerical difficulties for simulation? Thanks
more accurately the number of wells. BTW, you did not seem response to my
question in that thread and I hope you
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: 1. Even if using homogeneous scaler perm, the number of cells will NOT be
: less. Please find the reason in the original thread as I have specified
: there. It will, however, make upscaling easier and agree with physcics.
: 2. Numerical solution around well is tougher, yes for IMPES (stability
: reasons), no for fully implicit.
: As such,the number of cells DOES depends on the size of the field, and more accurately the number of wells. BTW, you did not seem response to my question in that thread and I
and numerical issue around well. Think about heterogeneity. Number of cells
are not dependent on the number of wells if you think about physics and ...
......
hint3: think about gridding around the well, permeability around well, how
are they going to generate numerical difficulties for simulation? Thanks
more accurately the number of wells. BTW, you did not seem response to my
question in that thread and I hope you
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: 1. Even if using homogeneous scaler perm, the number of cells will NOT be
: less. Please find the reason in the original thread as I have specified
: there. It will, however, make upscaling easier and agree with physcics.
: 2. Numerical solution around well is tougher, yes for IMPES (stability
: reasons), no for fully implicit.
: As such,the number of cells DOES depends on the size of the field, and more accurately the number of wells. BTW, you did not seem response to my question in that thread and I
l*i
28 楼
I learned a lot from your guys.
I am graduate student of ChemE and just started my PhD research about Non-
Darcy flow simulation.
I am graduate student of ChemE and just started my PhD research about Non-
Darcy flow simulation.
y*a
29 楼
The discussion is also a learning process and brainstorming for me myself.
But, I give up as (1) you never specify what type of gridding system using,
pillar, pebi or any other structured or unstrured grids; (2) you do not have
much credit as you did not run substaintial number of REAL simulations.
Most difficult grids are around some particular geological structure, and
that is only because of (1) discountinuity (not necessary around Fault or
Fracture); and/or (2) poor physical modeling. This
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: I gave you a hint of numerical difficulty around well. Think about physics
: and numerical issue around well. Think about heterogeneity. Number of cells
: are not dependent on the number of wells if you think about physics and ...
: ......
: hint3: think about gridding around the well, permeability around well, how
: are they going to generate numerical difficulties for simulation? Thanks
:
: more accurately the number of wells. BTW, you did not seem response to my
: question in that thread and I hope you
But, I give up as (1) you never specify what type of gridding system using,
pillar, pebi or any other structured or unstrured grids; (2) you do not have
much credit as you did not run substaintial number of REAL simulations.
Most difficult grids are around some particular geological structure, and
that is only because of (1) discountinuity (not necessary around Fault or
Fracture); and/or (2) poor physical modeling. This
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: I gave you a hint of numerical difficulty around well. Think about physics
: and numerical issue around well. Think about heterogeneity. Number of cells
: are not dependent on the number of wells if you think about physics and ...
: ......
: hint3: think about gridding around the well, permeability around well, how
: are they going to generate numerical difficulties for simulation? Thanks
:
: more accurately the number of wells. BTW, you did not seem response to my
: question in that thread and I hope you
b*r
30 楼
Thanks for your reply.
Here is what your concluson was about:
(1) Number of cells depend on how large your field is
After discussion, your conclusion was changed to
(2) Number of cells depend on how many wells a field has
After my last night's hints, you begin to consider
(3) Gridding type and permeabilty tensor.
Here is the 4th hint to you
One homogeneous reservoir and one heterogeneous reservoir, which one has
more wells for a fixed volume? What physics play a role? (OTTHERWORDS: what
is the
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: The discussion is also a learning process and brainstorming for me myself.
: But, I give up as (1) you never specify what type of gridding system using,
: pillar, pebi or any other structured or unstrured grids; (2) you do not have
: much credit as you did not run substaintial number of REAL simulations.
: Most difficult grids are around some particular geological structure, and
: that is only because of (1) discountinuity (not necessary around Fault or
: Fracture); and/or (2) poor physical modeling. This
Here is what your concluson was about:
(1) Number of cells depend on how large your field is
After discussion, your conclusion was changed to
(2) Number of cells depend on how many wells a field has
After my last night's hints, you begin to consider
(3) Gridding type and permeabilty tensor.
Here is the 4th hint to you
One homogeneous reservoir and one heterogeneous reservoir, which one has
more wells for a fixed volume? What physics play a role? (OTTHERWORDS: what
is the
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: The discussion is also a learning process and brainstorming for me myself.
: But, I give up as (1) you never specify what type of gridding system using,
: pillar, pebi or any other structured or unstrured grids; (2) you do not have
: much credit as you did not run substaintial number of REAL simulations.
: Most difficult grids are around some particular geological structure, and
: that is only because of (1) discountinuity (not necessary around Fault or
: Fracture); and/or (2) poor physical modeling. This
b*r
31 楼
chemical engineer with background in computation, mathematics,fluid
mechanics have good chance to get in upstream R&D. add oil. We chemical
engineer will find a niche in upstream.
mechanics have good chance to get in upstream R&D. add oil. We chemical
engineer will find a niche in upstream.
b*r
32 楼
we are not going to compare chemical engineer with any other professonional.
We are talking about job hunting experince in upstream for cheme engineers
. let us share experience
We are talking about job hunting experince in upstream for cheme engineers
. let us share experience
b*r
33 楼
It really does not matter if you have experience in Darcy flow simulation.
It really does not matter if you have knowledge in geoplogy, petrophysics.
Oil company view thing in long run. As long as you show oil company your
talents, they may hire you for your potentials. After you join oil company
, you will learn a lot about geology, reservoir through training and
teamwork.
【在 l**********i 的大作中提到】
: I learned a lot from your guys.
: I am graduate student of ChemE and just started my PhD research about Non-
: Darcy flow simulation.
It really does not matter if you have knowledge in geoplogy, petrophysics.
Oil company view thing in long run. As long as you show oil company your
talents, they may hire you for your potentials. After you join oil company
, you will learn a lot about geology, reservoir through training and
teamwork.
【在 l**********i 的大作中提到】
: I learned a lot from your guys.
: I am graduate student of ChemE and just started my PhD research about Non-
: Darcy flow simulation.
b*r
34 楼
You guys are so funny. Why do you guys think that chance is slim for CheE
engineer to find Upstream job? I already got the offer from a top oil
company and will start work october 1st.
I will share my experience of both campus and company interview. It is
really not that hard like you imagined.
chance
to
seek
cuz
engineer to find Upstream job? I already got the offer from a top oil
company and will start work october 1st.
I will share my experience of both campus and company interview. It is
really not that hard like you imagined.
chance
to
seek
cuz
l*i
35 楼
r u a fresh graduate student? Or has work experience?
Could you share with us more about ur job hunting?
CheE
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: You guys are so funny. Why do you guys think that chance is slim for CheE
: engineer to find Upstream job? I already got the offer from a top oil
: company and will start work october 1st.
: I will share my experience of both campus and company interview. It is
: really not that hard like you imagined.
:
: chance
: to
: seek
: cuz
Could you share with us more about ur job hunting?
CheE
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: You guys are so funny. Why do you guys think that chance is slim for CheE
: engineer to find Upstream job? I already got the offer from a top oil
: company and will start work october 1st.
: I will share my experience of both campus and company interview. It is
: really not that hard like you imagined.
:
: chance
: to
: seek
: cuz
b*r
36 楼
Hi I am a first year postdoctor. I got the offer early this year and will
start work october 1st. I submit my resume through campus job fair and got
campus interview onsite interview. My ph.d disseration was about atomistic
simulation, which is nothing related with upstream. I begin to get involved
with non-darcy flow modeling at my current postdoctoral position. I think
the reason why i got offer from oil is the following
(1) i wrote a good resume to show employer why my ph.d and current rese
【在 l**********i 的大作中提到】
: r u a fresh graduate student? Or has work experience?
: Could you share with us more about ur job hunting?
:
: CheE
start work october 1st. I submit my resume through campus job fair and got
campus interview onsite interview. My ph.d disseration was about atomistic
simulation, which is nothing related with upstream. I begin to get involved
with non-darcy flow modeling at my current postdoctoral position. I think
the reason why i got offer from oil is the following
(1) i wrote a good resume to show employer why my ph.d and current rese
【在 l**********i 的大作中提到】
: r u a fresh graduate student? Or has work experience?
: Could you share with us more about ur job hunting?
:
: CheE
e*m
37 楼
involved
think
research
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: Hi I am a first year postdoctor. I got the offer early this year and will
: start work october 1st. I submit my resume through campus job fair and got
: campus interview onsite interview. My ph.d disseration was about atomistic
: simulation, which is nothing related with upstream. I begin to get involved
: with non-darcy flow modeling at my current postdoctoral position. I think
: the reason why i got offer from oil is the following
: (1) i wrote a good resume to show employer why my ph.d and current rese
e*m
38 楼
根据自己经历有个小统计：
300左右summer intern，～30 Ph.D （大部分是Geoscience)
300里面大概有60~80 Chem Eng，基本都是本科的
感觉应该不少啦
300左右summer intern，～30 Ph.D （大部分是Geoscience)
300里面大概有60~80 Chem Eng，基本都是本科的
感觉应该不少啦
l*i
39 楼
Thank you for ur reply. I am very appreciated if you write more about
your experience in Chinese. I wonder how you improve your background in
PE in order to persuade them that your research is useful for them.
I just began to my research in Non-Darcy flow modeling, I found that my
work mainly focused on mathematics, solving equations. I do not know
what is my strength because I have little idea about basic knowledge of
PE.
will
got
atomistic
involved
think
research
creative.
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: Hi I am a first year postdoctor. I got the offer early this year and will
: start work october 1st. I submit my resume through campus job fair and got
: campus interview onsite interview. My ph.d disseration was about atomistic
: simulation, which is nothing related with upstream. I begin to get involved
: with non-darcy flow modeling at my current postdoctoral position. I think
: the reason why i got offer from oil is the following
: (1) i wrote a good resume to show employer why my ph.d and current rese
your experience in Chinese. I wonder how you improve your background in
PE in order to persuade them that your research is useful for them.
I just began to my research in Non-Darcy flow modeling, I found that my
work mainly focused on mathematics, solving equations. I do not know
what is my strength because I have little idea about basic knowledge of
PE.
will
got
atomistic
involved
think
research
creative.
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: Hi I am a first year postdoctor. I got the offer early this year and will
: start work october 1st. I submit my resume through campus job fair and got
: campus interview onsite interview. My ph.d disseration was about atomistic
: simulation, which is nothing related with upstream. I begin to get involved
: with non-darcy flow modeling at my current postdoctoral position. I think
: the reason why i got offer from oil is the following
: (1) i wrote a good resume to show employer why my ph.d and current rese
b*r
40 楼
Hi you dont have to learn PE so early. It is only after i got onsite
invitation, did i begin to read PE books. The purpose of reading PE books
was to understand INTERVIEWER's conversation and their technology in onsite
interview. I read around 10 books about reservoir simulation one month
before the onsite interview. After onsite interview,i almost forgot
everything.
To make your research substantial and creative, i think is the main thing to
get your offer. of course, you have to pratice pre
【在 l**********i 的大作中提到】
: Thank you for ur reply. I am very appreciated if you write more about
: your experience in Chinese. I wonder how you improve your background in
: PE in order to persuade them that your research is useful for them.
: I just began to my research in Non-Darcy flow modeling, I found that my
: work mainly focused on mathematics, solving equations. I do not know
: what is my strength because I have little idea about basic knowledge of
: PE.
:
: will
: got
invitation, did i begin to read PE books. The purpose of reading PE books
was to understand INTERVIEWER's conversation and their technology in onsite
interview. I read around 10 books about reservoir simulation one month
before the onsite interview. After onsite interview,i almost forgot
everything.
To make your research substantial and creative, i think is the main thing to
get your offer. of course, you have to pratice pre
【在 l**********i 的大作中提到】
: Thank you for ur reply. I am very appreciated if you write more about
: your experience in Chinese. I wonder how you improve your background in
: PE in order to persuade them that your research is useful for them.
: I just began to my research in Non-Darcy flow modeling, I found that my
: work mainly focused on mathematics, solving equations. I do not know
: what is my strength because I have little idea about basic knowledge of
: PE.
:
: will
: got
r*e
41 楼
If the reason drives you to seek jobs in E&P is only money, you'd better
keep away from it. You will get "hurt". Only ones with right attitude and
passion can earn a successful career in E&P.
keep away from it. You will get "hurt". Only ones with right attitude and
passion can earn a successful career in E&P.
y*a
42 楼
First I need to congrate your achievement.
Second, noting that Galtech alone will produce more PhDs in ChE than all
PhDs in PE combined in the US, it would be realsitic that most (but
comparing to the total body of ChE, still very small) ChE graduates will NOT
launch a job in upstream yet they are willing to do so (you are talented in
a good school at least, but not all people are so lucky). Comparable,
there is an article reporting the outlook for petroleum engineering
graduates, that most pe
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: Hi you dont have to learn PE so early. It is only after i got onsite
: invitation, did i begin to read PE books. The purpose of reading PE books
: was to understand INTERVIEWER's conversation and their technology in onsite
: interview. I read around 10 books about reservoir simulation one month
: before the onsite interview. After onsite interview,i almost forgot
: everything.
: To make your research substantial and creative, i think is the main thing to
: get your offer. of course, you have to pratice pre
Second, noting that Galtech alone will produce more PhDs in ChE than all
PhDs in PE combined in the US, it would be realsitic that most (but
comparing to the total body of ChE, still very small) ChE graduates will NOT
launch a job in upstream yet they are willing to do so (you are talented in
a good school at least, but not all people are so lucky). Comparable,
there is an article reporting the outlook for petroleum engineering
graduates, that most pe
【在 b*******r 的大作中提到】
: Hi you dont have to learn PE so early. It is only after i got onsite
: invitation, did i begin to read PE books. The purpose of reading PE books
: was to understand INTERVIEWER's conversation and their technology in onsite
: interview. I read around 10 books about reservoir simulation one month
: before the onsite interview. After onsite interview,i almost forgot
: everything.
: To make your research substantial and creative, i think is the main thing to
: get your offer. of course, you have to pratice pre
l*i
43 楼
I begin to consider change to PE program....so few for ChE....
NOT
in
this
lack
,
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: First I need to congrate your achievement.
: Second, noting that Galtech alone will produce more PhDs in ChE than all
: PhDs in PE combined in the US, it would be realsitic that most (but
: comparing to the total body of ChE, still very small) ChE graduates will NOT
: launch a job in upstream yet they are willing to do so (you are talented in
: a good school at least, but not all people are so lucky). Comparable,
: there is an article reporting the outlook for petroleum engineering
: graduates, that most pe
NOT
in
this
lack
,
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: First I need to congrate your achievement.
: Second, noting that Galtech alone will produce more PhDs in ChE than all
: PhDs in PE combined in the US, it would be realsitic that most (but
: comparing to the total body of ChE, still very small) ChE graduates will NOT
: launch a job in upstream yet they are willing to do so (you are talented in
: a good school at least, but not all people are so lucky). Comparable,
: there is an article reporting the outlook for petroleum engineering
: graduates, that most pe
b*d
44 楼
Your logic is flawed....you are assuming all chemical engineering students
want to apply for a job in upstream? That is so not true. For petroleum
engineers, upstream is the ONLY place they can go…and if they get laid off
10 years into their career, they will be screwed. Upstream is known for its
volatility and that’s a big downside to a lot of people. I know quite a
few people who got laid off from the big O&C in the early 90s and they could
not find another job in the same field. They the
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: First I need to congrate your achievement.
: Second, noting that Galtech alone will produce more PhDs in ChE than all
: PhDs in PE combined in the US, it would be realsitic that most (but
: comparing to the total body of ChE, still very small) ChE graduates will NOT
: launch a job in upstream yet they are willing to do so (you are talented in
: a good school at least, but not all people are so lucky). Comparable,
: there is an article reporting the outlook for petroleum engineering
: graduates, that most pe
want to apply for a job in upstream? That is so not true. For petroleum
engineers, upstream is the ONLY place they can go…and if they get laid off
10 years into their career, they will be screwed. Upstream is known for its
volatility and that’s a big downside to a lot of people. I know quite a
few people who got laid off from the big O&C in the early 90s and they could
not find another job in the same field. They the
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: First I need to congrate your achievement.
: Second, noting that Galtech alone will produce more PhDs in ChE than all
: PhDs in PE combined in the US, it would be realsitic that most (but
: comparing to the total body of ChE, still very small) ChE graduates will NOT
: launch a job in upstream yet they are willing to do so (you are talented in
: a good school at least, but not all people are so lucky). Comparable,
: there is an article reporting the outlook for petroleum engineering
: graduates, that most pe
s*s
45 楼
很精彩的讨论。
我是chemical engineering Ph.D, 但是我不是做模拟的。在我看来，chemical
engieering的范围太广了！
我是chemical engineering Ph.D, 但是我不是做模拟的。在我看来，chemical
engieering的范围太广了！
k*n
46 楼
All the above discussions are so insightful, and many thanks for your
valuable imputs. Currently I am a postdoctoral researcher in Chemical
Engineering Department. Because of my project, I am working with some people
from petroleum engineering, focusing on the the enhanced oil recovery
utilizing emulsion techniques. Before I started my postdoc one year ago, I
got my Ph.D in physical chemistry from a U.S university. Along with the
cooperation with the PE guys, I have some interest on the reservio
valuable imputs. Currently I am a postdoctoral researcher in Chemical
Engineering Department. Because of my project, I am working with some people
from petroleum engineering, focusing on the the enhanced oil recovery
utilizing emulsion techniques. Before I started my postdoc one year ago, I
got my Ph.D in physical chemistry from a U.S university. Along with the
cooperation with the PE guys, I have some interest on the reservio
k*n
47 楼
i dont know if you can find a reservoir engineer job. because 1) you dont
have an engineering degree. 2) you are not confident and dont know what
you can do.
even after many years of hard study on your new dgree, say, petroleum
engineering, your resume will look very negative, showing that a person with
a phd. and postdoctoral experinece cannot even land a job and repeatedly
waste his time on pursuing another degree........
i noticed that petroleum egnineer in this thread do not know what th
【在 k*******n 的大作中提到】
: All the above discussions are so insightful, and many thanks for your
: valuable imputs. Currently I am a postdoctoral researcher in Chemical
: Engineering Department. Because of my project, I am working with some people
: from petroleum engineering, focusing on the the enhanced oil recovery
: utilizing emulsion techniques. Before I started my postdoc one year ago, I
: got my Ph.D in physical chemistry from a U.S university. Along with the
: cooperation with the PE guys, I have some interest on the reservio
have an engineering degree. 2) you are not confident and dont know what
you can do.
even after many years of hard study on your new dgree, say, petroleum
engineering, your resume will look very negative, showing that a person with
a phd. and postdoctoral experinece cannot even land a job and repeatedly
waste his time on pursuing another degree........
i noticed that petroleum egnineer in this thread do not know what th
【在 k*******n 的大作中提到】
: All the above discussions are so insightful, and many thanks for your
: valuable imputs. Currently I am a postdoctoral researcher in Chemical
: Engineering Department. Because of my project, I am working with some people
: from petroleum engineering, focusing on the the enhanced oil recovery
: utilizing emulsion techniques. Before I started my postdoc one year ago, I
: got my Ph.D in physical chemistry from a U.S university. Along with the
: cooperation with the PE guys, I have some interest on the reservio
r*e
48 楼
很难，化学的博士想申请工程院的Master一般是不予考虑的，因为你没有工程方面的背
景。这个和你从本科开始申请完全不一样的。
people
is
suitable
【在 k*******n 的大作中提到】
: All the above discussions are so insightful, and many thanks for your
: valuable imputs. Currently I am a postdoctoral researcher in Chemical
: Engineering Department. Because of my project, I am working with some people
: from petroleum engineering, focusing on the the enhanced oil recovery
: utilizing emulsion techniques. Before I started my postdoc one year ago, I
: got my Ph.D in physical chemistry from a U.S university. Along with the
: cooperation with the PE guys, I have some interest on the reservio
景。这个和你从本科开始申请完全不一样的。
people
is
suitable
【在 k*******n 的大作中提到】
: All the above discussions are so insightful, and many thanks for your
: valuable imputs. Currently I am a postdoctoral researcher in Chemical
: Engineering Department. Because of my project, I am working with some people
: from petroleum engineering, focusing on the the enhanced oil recovery
: utilizing emulsion techniques. Before I started my postdoc one year ago, I
: got my Ph.D in physical chemistry from a U.S university. Along with the
: cooperation with the PE guys, I have some interest on the reservio
o*5
49 楼
请问正常年份，石油公司大概能招多少人？ 每年石油工程的毕业生大概有多少？
companies.
afloat
going
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: Totally agree with g&g role although myself is an engineer.
: Regarding the stupidity, that is largely because of the nature of companies.
: Public companies are responsible for the shareholders, and if they are
: more conservative (e.g. in laying off ppl and keep bottomline), the stock
: price would drop, and thus the executives are under pressure and ppl would
: go to other companies that are willing to keep bottomline. Large NOC, in
: oil downturn, need to pump more oil out-of-ground to keep the nati
companies.
afloat
going
【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: Totally agree with g&g role although myself is an engineer.
: Regarding the stupidity, that is largely because of the nature of companies.
: Public companies are responsible for the shareholders, and if they are
: more conservative (e.g. in laying off ppl and keep bottomline), the stock
: price would drop, and thus the executives are under pressure and ppl would
: go to other companies that are willing to keep bottomline. Large NOC, in
: oil downturn, need to pump more oil out-of-ground to keep the nati
p*y
50 楼
The market is still pretty quiet as far as I can tell. Hopefully the warmer
weather brings a hotter market for us.
weather brings a hotter market for us.
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