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倪海厦: 癌症細胞與腫瘤在哪重要嗎?

倪海厦: 癌症細胞與腫瘤在哪重要嗎?# ChineseMed - 中医

L*D2009-03-03 08:03

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http://www.hantang.com/chinese/ch_Articles/cancerlocation.htm
癌症細胞與腫瘤在哪重要嗎?
中西醫學之不同處是西醫是微視醫學(micro) , 中醫是巨視醫學(macro)二者有極
端不同的見解 , 因此中西醫在ㄧ起會成為雞同鴉講 , 西醫學因為主張微視 , 所以非
常注重疾病在哪裡 , 但是為了知道在哪裡 , 所以開發出許多儀器如超音波掃描 , X光
機等 , 以及為了能夠使癌症顯示在片子上 , 就必須先在病人身上注射ㄧ些能夠在放射
線下顯露蹤跡的顯影劑 , 找出來之後再決定是否開刀或是做化療或是放射療 , 甚至合
併ㄧ起來使用 , 由於過於注重癌腫瘤在哪與如何才能夠殺死它 , 因此病人從西醫診斷
開始就已經受到許多傷害了 , 尤其是CT-Scan或PET-Scan根本就等於是癌症製造機 ,
這種可以殺死你的敵人機器 , 卻被用來給自己同胞 , 你認為呢? 如果你認為西醫可以
治好癌症的話 , 你去試試看 , 我告訴你 , 當你死的時候 , 並非死於癌症的 , 而是
死在化療或鈷六十照射或手術之下的 , 這類極霸道的

L*D2009-03-03 08:03

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http://www.hantang.com/chinese/ch_cm/cm-007.htm
中醫之胃癰與癥痼(類似於西醫之惡性淋巴病、胃癌)
人的身體分兩大循環系統 [1]血液循環系統 [2]水道系統，為何須要此二系
統呢？因為有水，再有營養互相配合，這是任何生物賴以為生的必要條件，人類如此，
動植物亦如此，舉凡地球上所有生物，包含virus與cancer，tumor都須要此二者，缺一
不可。人體的這二大系統主導著生命的延續，東方醫學是巨視醫學，它看整體，直接面
對病人，並聆聽病人的陳述，体內發出的訊息，經由病人口述的感覺，包括肉體上疼痛
，精神上的變化等，從而細察出病源所在，直接與病人面對面，這是最直接，最近距離
的接觸。西方醫學是微視醫學，它藉由儀器，X光片，驗血報告等資料，進而診斷病人
，是間接的，較遠距離的，西醫被訓練起來解讀照片及驗血報告，往往忽略病人的感覺
與存在，對病人視而不見，因此只能得到片斷的資料，絕大多數的病都不知因何而來。
東方醫學認為，一個人水道系統的正常與血液循環系統的正常，則癌症不生
，癌並非毒，它的由來，只是

h*92009-03-03 08:03

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十分的搞笑。下面这段话适合任何疾病。如此说来，中医诊断还望闻问切干么？知道别
人不舒服不就行了，还问哪里不舒服/哪里疼痒或怎么个疼痒干么？什么病，都搞全身
平衡不得了？管它病灶病因在那里是什么？
一个只有一个老美病人评价的针灸医生说的话实在不靠谱。
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第一是中醫根本不是很在乎
癌症在哪? 因為中醫在乎的是全身應該都沒有癌症才是 , 所以我們治療時 , 是採全身
求得平衡的治療法則 , 同時加強病人的胃口 , 使病人保持良好的體力 , 以應付此嚴
重的疾病 , 所以是治療與強身相輔相成的同時進行式的全身療法 , 所以到底癌症在哪
是確實位置並不是很重要的

h*i2009-03-03 08:03

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我也当成笑话读读。看了作者从来没有学习过医学，什么都是洋玩意儿，什么都是致
命的。治疗癌症就是加强胃口，保持体力，为什么年轻人身强力壮也有癌症？为什么有
乳腺癌，宫颈癌？为什么吸烟导致肺癌？是不是使劲吃，就可以随便吸烟啦？

m*n2009-03-03 08:03

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He is so true on CT-Scan.
Most Chinese patients were scared of X-ray examination but easily hoaxed to
"advanced" CT-Scans. But one CT equates with 14 times of X-ray examination,
anyone object?
I also read clinical advice on prevetion on breast cancer. The "best method"
, is to scan a woman's breast often to discover early symptons, best Once a
Month.
Haha, once a month X-ray or mass destruction CT, even no breast cancer will
get breast cancer.
Any western medicine fans disagree? What advice you

m*n2009-03-03 08:03

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n*12009-03-03 08:03

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Eric Hall published a paper in NEJM 2008 said that CT scan abusing cause the
cancer. However, a lot of physicians disagree that and showed proof that CT
scan did not cause the cancer. The reason is that CT scan may cause the
cancer for patient after 20 years, but the other radiation from earth, sun
and water may also contribute to the cancer.
I think CT scan help the patients a lot. You should be cautious if you are
under 10 years old to take CT scan. You will be ok if you are over 30 years
old.

a*72009-03-03 08:03

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to
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method"
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I don't know where did you read this "clinical advice", but it seems like
you provide misinformation again, either on purpose or because you didn't
understand what you read.
See http://www.breastcancer.org/symptoms/
"Breast self-exam should be part of your monthly health care routine, and
you should visit your doctor if you experience breast changes. If you're
over 40 or at a high risk for the disease, you should also have an annual
mammogram and physical exam by a doctor. The ea

【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】

: He is so true on CT-Scan.
: Most Chinese patients were scared of X-ray examination but easily hoaxed to
: "advanced" CT-Scans. But one CT equates with 14 times of X-ray examination,
: anyone object?
: I also read clinical advice on prevetion on breast cancer. The "best method"
: , is to scan a woman's breast often to discover early symptons, best Once a
: Month.
: Haha, once a month X-ray or mass destruction CT, even no breast cancer will
: get breast cancer.
: Any western medicine fans disagree? What advice you

m*n2009-03-03 08:03

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but it seems like
you provide misinformation again, either on purpose or because you didn't
understand what you read.
Well, some doctors maintain this idea that CT-scan shall be conducted
monthly.
Even more than this, I once read an magazine with innovative technologies.
One is some scan built within bath tubs to detect breast images and send it
to doctor.
Anyway, prevelance of CT-Scans are partly due to misinformation of doctors
to patients. If patients get to know one CT-Scan is 14 X-rays, the

a*72009-03-03 08:03

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Any source? I don't quite believe so.
it
Again, any source?
probably
For what small symptoms do doctors recommend CT? It's not only harmful (how
harmful I don't know), but also expensive. I don't think a reasonable doctor
will recommend it for small symptoms.

【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】

: but it seems like
: you provide misinformation again, either on purpose or because you didn't
: understand what you read.
: Well, some doctors maintain this idea that CT-scan shall be conducted
: monthly.
: Even more than this, I once read an magazine with innovative technologies.
: One is some scan built within bath tubs to detect breast images and send it
: to doctor.
: Anyway, prevelance of CT-Scans are partly due to misinformation of doctors
: to patients. If patients get to know one CT-Scan is 14 X-rays, the

m*n2009-03-03 08:03

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"Breast self-exam" includes a few simple steps, all can be done by the women
themselves at home. There's no CT or any other "scan" involved.
Ok, I may be misinformed here.
But could you tell us how to perform that monthly test?
For what small symptoms do doctors recommend CT? It's not only harmful (how
harmful I don't know), but also expensive. I don't think a reasonable doctor
will recommend it for small symptoms.
>>>You think. You think. I already heard some doctors saying CT is good and
preci