k*e
9 楼
nonsense.
DBA requires all kinds of certificate and strong background to do it good.
not like regular fast-trained developer who got his skills from dummies book.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: not 100% true,
: DBA 工作更清闲,更不容易被裁 might be true.
: salary wise, since developers need higher degree.
: senior level or above, developer could be higher.
DBA requires all kinds of certificate and strong background to do it good.
not like regular fast-trained developer who got his skills from dummies book.
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: not 100% true,
: DBA 工作更清闲,更不容易被裁 might be true.
: salary wise, since developers need higher degree.
: senior level or above, developer could be higher.
k*e
10 楼
aglee.
There are more developer positions than DBA.
while developer positions starts from 32k here. DBA position starts from 50k.
average developer is around 60k here, while DBA is about 70k+.
that's why I said DBA holds a little higher salary, usually.
【在 O*******A 的大作中提到】
:
: The ratio of DBA to developer position in a company is roughly 1 to 100.
: There fore there are more develoepr positions than DBA.
: Thanks!
: OracleDBA
There are more developer positions than DBA.
while developer positions starts from 32k here. DBA position starts from 50k.
average developer is around 60k here, while DBA is about 70k+.
that's why I said DBA holds a little higher salary, usually.
【在 O*******A 的大作中提到】
:
: The ratio of DBA to developer position in a company is roughly 1 to 100.
: There fore there are more develoepr positions than DBA.
: Thanks!
: OracleDBA
x*e
11 楼
if you look at my post carefully, you might stop yourself from being such
arrogant.
if you are comparing senior DBA and entry level developer, we can stop here.
if you can get a "fast-trained developer" to be hired as a senior developer
without being laid off right after, and think it is "regular", I have
nothing to say.
generally, DBA does not require any certification at all. all the
requirement is an associate level degree and many years of experience.
with the same level of experience/educat
【在 k********e 的大作中提到】
: nonsense.
: DBA requires all kinds of certificate and strong background to do it good.
: not like regular fast-trained developer who got his skills from dummies book.
arrogant.
if you are comparing senior DBA and entry level developer, we can stop here.
if you can get a "fast-trained developer" to be hired as a senior developer
without being laid off right after, and think it is "regular", I have
nothing to say.
generally, DBA does not require any certification at all. all the
requirement is an associate level degree and many years of experience.
with the same level of experience/educat
【在 k********e 的大作中提到】
: nonsense.
: DBA requires all kinds of certificate and strong background to do it good.
: not like regular fast-trained developer who got his skills from dummies book.
k*e
12 楼
中国人说中文吧。看起来方便些。
我不是闭门造车看了几篇文章就信口胡说的。
我两者都找过。都从入门开始看。平均junior developer是40k, junior DBA是50k.
后来我也找过senior, 平均developer 65k, DBA是75k.
这就是我为什么说DBA比同档次的developer要高半级。
原理很简单,developer position太多,公司里面多你一个不多,少你一个不少。
而DBA是mission critical的职位,关系到公司正常运转维护和SLA,出了问题动辄
会让公司损失数十万上百万。而这样的职位又相对少的多,公司数据库核心掌握在
少数1-2个DBA手里,所以一个称职的DBA公司会愿意千方百计保留,愿意花大价钱。
我所说的,都是大公司专职DBA。你如果认为小公司那些既是developer又是DBA的
也能叫DBA的话....呵呵。
奉劝立志当DBA的人胸,要想当好DBA, 当那种公司要求你留下来可以不惜代价的DBA,
专职DBA都用不上的地方就不要去了。
here.
developer
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: if you look at my post carefully, you might stop yourself from being such
: arrogant.
: if you are comparing senior DBA and entry level developer, we can stop here.
: if you can get a "fast-trained developer" to be hired as a senior developer
: without being laid off right after, and think it is "regular", I have
: nothing to say.
: generally, DBA does not require any certification at all. all the
: requirement is an associate level degree and many years of experience.
: with the same level of experience/educat
我不是闭门造车看了几篇文章就信口胡说的。
我两者都找过。都从入门开始看。平均junior developer是40k, junior DBA是50k.
后来我也找过senior, 平均developer 65k, DBA是75k.
这就是我为什么说DBA比同档次的developer要高半级。
原理很简单,developer position太多,公司里面多你一个不多,少你一个不少。
而DBA是mission critical的职位,关系到公司正常运转维护和SLA,出了问题动辄
会让公司损失数十万上百万。而这样的职位又相对少的多,公司数据库核心掌握在
少数1-2个DBA手里,所以一个称职的DBA公司会愿意千方百计保留,愿意花大价钱。
我所说的,都是大公司专职DBA。你如果认为小公司那些既是developer又是DBA的
也能叫DBA的话....呵呵。
奉劝立志当DBA的人胸,要想当好DBA, 当那种公司要求你留下来可以不惜代价的DBA,
专职DBA都用不上的地方就不要去了。
here.
developer
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: if you look at my post carefully, you might stop yourself from being such
: arrogant.
: if you are comparing senior DBA and entry level developer, we can stop here.
: if you can get a "fast-trained developer" to be hired as a senior developer
: without being laid off right after, and think it is "regular", I have
: nothing to say.
: generally, DBA does not require any certification at all. all the
: requirement is an associate level degree and many years of experience.
: with the same level of experience/educat
c*n
13 楼
当然DBA!不过压力很大。。。特别是女DBA
m*y
14 楼
我觉得还是不一定吧。 DBA固然很重要,但是要搭起好的数据库结构还是需要很多的经
验,要是数据库本身不好维护再好也没用。还有我不知道你在哪里,好像你说的薪水有
点低。我们小公司在中南部senior的 db developer都有10万左右或是
以上吧。
【在 k********e 的大作中提到】
: 中国人说中文吧。看起来方便些。
: 我不是闭门造车看了几篇文章就信口胡说的。
: 我两者都找过。都从入门开始看。平均junior developer是40k, junior DBA是50k.
: 后来我也找过senior, 平均developer 65k, DBA是75k.
: 这就是我为什么说DBA比同档次的developer要高半级。
: 原理很简单,developer position太多,公司里面多你一个不多,少你一个不少。
: 而DBA是mission critical的职位,关系到公司正常运转维护和SLA,出了问题动辄
: 会让公司损失数十万上百万。而这样的职位又相对少的多,公司数据库核心掌握在
: 少数1-2个DBA手里,所以一个称职的DBA公司会愿意千方百计保留,愿意花大价钱。
: 我所说的,都是大公司专职DBA。你如果认为小公司那些既是developer又是DBA的
验,要是数据库本身不好维护再好也没用。还有我不知道你在哪里,好像你说的薪水有
点低。我们小公司在中南部senior的 db developer都有10万左右或是
以上吧。
【在 k********e 的大作中提到】
: 中国人说中文吧。看起来方便些。
: 我不是闭门造车看了几篇文章就信口胡说的。
: 我两者都找过。都从入门开始看。平均junior developer是40k, junior DBA是50k.
: 后来我也找过senior, 平均developer 65k, DBA是75k.
: 这就是我为什么说DBA比同档次的developer要高半级。
: 原理很简单,developer position太多,公司里面多你一个不多,少你一个不少。
: 而DBA是mission critical的职位,关系到公司正常运转维护和SLA,出了问题动辄
: 会让公司损失数十万上百万。而这样的职位又相对少的多,公司数据库核心掌握在
: 少数1-2个DBA手里,所以一个称职的DBA公司会愿意千方百计保留,愿意花大价钱。
: 我所说的,都是大公司专职DBA。你如果认为小公司那些既是developer又是DBA的
k*s
16 楼
要想成为一个好的DBA,需要精通很多知识的。当然也有那种一般水平的dba,就是在一
个很稳定的系统上面做做备份,分配一下用户。当数据库出问题的时候,dba水平的高
低就体现出来了。推荐大家看看eygle或者tom kyte的文章吧。
个很稳定的系统上面做做备份,分配一下用户。当数据库出问题的时候,dba水平的高
低就体现出来了。推荐大家看看eygle或者tom kyte的文章吧。
z*u
17 楼
The ratio of DBA to Developer is 1 to 100.
DBA job is more critical then developer in many situation.
Get DBA job if you can, because DBA will worth more after you have more and
more years experience.
How do I know it?
I have been work as a Sr. Developer, and a Sr. DBA, and DBA manager in many
large ans small companies.
Come to learn Oracle 10g DBA skills:
http://amieeister.homeunix.com
Thanks!
DBA job is more critical then developer in many situation.
Get DBA job if you can, because DBA will worth more after you have more and
more years experience.
How do I know it?
I have been work as a Sr. Developer, and a Sr. DBA, and DBA manager in many
large ans small companies.
Come to learn Oracle 10g DBA skills:
http://amieeister.homeunix.com
Thanks!
u*u
20 楼
The ratio of DBA to Developer is 1 to 100.
DBA job is more critical then developer in many situation.
Get DBA job if you can, because DBA will worth more after you have more and
more years experience.
How do I know it?
I have been work as a Sr. Developer, and a Sr. DBA, and DBA manager in many
large and small USA companies.
Come to learn Oracle 11g DBA skills:
http://amieeister.homeunix.com
Thanks!
DBA job is more critical then developer in many situation.
Get DBA job if you can, because DBA will worth more after you have more and
more years experience.
How do I know it?
I have been work as a Sr. Developer, and a Sr. DBA, and DBA manager in many
large and small USA companies.
Come to learn Oracle 11g DBA skills:
http://amieeister.homeunix.com
Thanks!
S*k
25 楼
坚决不做DBA,还是多活几年重要。
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