c*y
2 楼
Hi I am doing research as a postdoctroal fellow:
Status: H1b
Arriving date: December 2nd, 2010
Never left America after arriving.
I am going to use treaty (artical 19) for tax return, but I am resident
already due to the 183 days rule. I know as a researcher for public interest
, I am still OK to use treaty based examption. but,
What form should I use? 1040-NR or 1040A?
One of my colleage has the same situation as me, but he used 1040-NR last
year and got 100% refund.
Status: H1b
Arriving date: December 2nd, 2010
Never left America after arriving.
I am going to use treaty (artical 19) for tax return, but I am resident
already due to the 183 days rule. I know as a researcher for public interest
, I am still OK to use treaty based examption. but,
What form should I use? 1040-NR or 1040A?
One of my colleage has the same situation as me, but he used 1040-NR last
year and got 100% refund.
r*n
3 楼
很多人不理解为什么停止处理新申请是件好事情,因为大多数人不理解USCIS, NVC,
DOS之间的关系。
举个例子:
比如8,9月剩下13000名额,其中USCIS可以批准的demand只有10000,那它只能获得
10000,剩下3000归NVC(发放到海外大使馆)。如果NVC根据它的数据发现海外大使馆到
2009年1月1日总共才有3000个demand,那最后9月的排期就会到2009年1月1日,虽然美国
境内的AOS总共才有10000人而且不能批准最新递交的485,但是海外大使馆会用掉剩下
的名额,剩下的越多,排期前进的越多。等新的财年开始,就又根据AOS 485数量回调。
That's why NVC (National Visa Center) has sent tons of fee notice to EB2 from April.
To add two things:
1.this is why 2007.07 event happened 4 years ago.
because in 2007.07, there were not enough 485-AOS cases ready to use visa number, Mr.O pushed PD to current in order to let the NVC center to distribute visa numbers to consulates oversea. 17K Indian EB3 got green cards in 2 months.
2.difference between DOS demand table and USCIS inventory data
First, DOS's demand data is referring to the cases that have been ready to consume visa numbers. The newly submitted cases are not ready, so they are not demand.
Second, USCIS's inventory data is referring to the cases that they have sent out receipts. Basically these cases may not be ready to use visa numbers. In fact USCIS inventory data in June still has 20k EB1 and EB2 ROW, but these cases are not ready to consume visa numbers, so they are not demand.
DOS之间的关系。
举个例子:
比如8,9月剩下13000名额,其中USCIS可以批准的demand只有10000,那它只能获得
10000,剩下3000归NVC(发放到海外大使馆)。如果NVC根据它的数据发现海外大使馆到
2009年1月1日总共才有3000个demand,那最后9月的排期就会到2009年1月1日,虽然美国
境内的AOS总共才有10000人而且不能批准最新递交的485,但是海外大使馆会用掉剩下
的名额,剩下的越多,排期前进的越多。等新的财年开始,就又根据AOS 485数量回调。
That's why NVC (National Visa Center) has sent tons of fee notice to EB2 from April.
To add two things:
1.this is why 2007.07 event happened 4 years ago.
because in 2007.07, there were not enough 485-AOS cases ready to use visa number, Mr.O pushed PD to current in order to let the NVC center to distribute visa numbers to consulates oversea. 17K Indian EB3 got green cards in 2 months.
2.difference between DOS demand table and USCIS inventory data
First, DOS's demand data is referring to the cases that have been ready to consume visa numbers. The newly submitted cases are not ready, so they are not demand.
Second, USCIS's inventory data is referring to the cases that they have sent out receipts. Basically these cases may not be ready to use visa numbers. In fact USCIS inventory data in June still has 20k EB1 and EB2 ROW, but these cases are not ready to consume visa numbers, so they are not demand.
o*3
4 楼
同问
P*1
5 楼
1040+8833
s*7
6 楼
火箭。。好象形势对09年以后的很不乐观阿。。。该死我家pd是09年1月的。。会不会
又像07年7月以后一样拖个4年再交485。。那样就好悲催了
我家ld也好多年没回去了。。我也等着485上班呢。。。怕怕阿怕怕。。。09年的pd,
你伤不起阿。。有木有!有木有!!!
调。
from April.
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 很多人不理解为什么停止处理新申请是件好事情,因为大多数人不理解USCIS, NVC,
: DOS之间的关系。
: 举个例子:
: 比如8,9月剩下13000名额,其中USCIS可以批准的demand只有10000,那它只能获得
: 10000,剩下3000归NVC(发放到海外大使馆)。如果NVC根据它的数据发现海外大使馆到
: 2009年1月1日总共才有3000个demand,那最后9月的排期就会到2009年1月1日,虽然美国
: 境内的AOS总共才有10000人而且不能批准最新递交的485,但是海外大使馆会用掉剩下
: 的名额,剩下的越多,排期前进的越多。等新的财年开始,就又根据AOS 485数量回调。
: That's why NVC (National Visa Center) has sent tons of fee notice to EB2 from April.
: To add two things:
又像07年7月以后一样拖个4年再交485。。那样就好悲催了
我家ld也好多年没回去了。。我也等着485上班呢。。。怕怕阿怕怕。。。09年的pd,
你伤不起阿。。有木有!有木有!!!
调。
from April.
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 很多人不理解为什么停止处理新申请是件好事情,因为大多数人不理解USCIS, NVC,
: DOS之间的关系。
: 举个例子:
: 比如8,9月剩下13000名额,其中USCIS可以批准的demand只有10000,那它只能获得
: 10000,剩下3000归NVC(发放到海外大使馆)。如果NVC根据它的数据发现海外大使馆到
: 2009年1月1日总共才有3000个demand,那最后9月的排期就会到2009年1月1日,虽然美国
: 境内的AOS总共才有10000人而且不能批准最新递交的485,但是海外大使馆会用掉剩下
: 的名额,剩下的越多,排期前进的越多。等新的财年开始,就又根据AOS 485数量回调。
: That's why NVC (National Visa Center) has sent tons of fee notice to EB2 from April.
: To add two things:
f*n
7 楼
no
r*n
9 楼
If more spill over can be generated in this summer, they have to allocate
the extra number to NVC, you may get a chance to submit 485. It depends how
many visa numbers NVC can get.
Even if you can't submit 485 this summer, you will be able to submit it next
summer. Next year I expect at least 25k spill over. 4 years waiting is
impossible.
【在 s******7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 火箭。。好象形势对09年以后的很不乐观阿。。。该死我家pd是09年1月的。。会不会
: 又像07年7月以后一样拖个4年再交485。。那样就好悲催了
: 我家ld也好多年没回去了。。我也等着485上班呢。。。怕怕阿怕怕。。。09年的pd,
: 你伤不起阿。。有木有!有木有!!!
:
: 调。
: from April.
the extra number to NVC, you may get a chance to submit 485. It depends how
many visa numbers NVC can get.
Even if you can't submit 485 this summer, you will be able to submit it next
summer. Next year I expect at least 25k spill over. 4 years waiting is
impossible.
【在 s******7 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 火箭。。好象形势对09年以后的很不乐观阿。。。该死我家pd是09年1月的。。会不会
: 又像07年7月以后一样拖个4年再交485。。那样就好悲催了
: 我家ld也好多年没回去了。。我也等着485上班呢。。。怕怕阿怕怕。。。09年的pd,
: 你伤不起阿。。有木有!有木有!!!
:
: 调。
: from April.
s*7
11 楼
谢谢你的分析。。
今年夏天也不奢望了。。明年summer如果能交上485。。给你一个大大大的包子!!!
how
next
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: If more spill over can be generated in this summer, they have to allocate
: the extra number to NVC, you may get a chance to submit 485. It depends how
: many visa numbers NVC can get.
: Even if you can't submit 485 this summer, you will be able to submit it next
: summer. Next year I expect at least 25k spill over. 4 years waiting is
: impossible.
今年夏天也不奢望了。。明年summer如果能交上485。。给你一个大大大的包子!!!
how
next
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: If more spill over can be generated in this summer, they have to allocate
: the extra number to NVC, you may get a chance to submit 485. It depends how
: many visa numbers NVC can get.
: Even if you can't submit 485 this summer, you will be able to submit it next
: summer. Next year I expect at least 25k spill over. 4 years waiting is
: impossible.
N*r
12 楼
同谢了!!!
PD08/2009,守望中。。。
PD08/2009,守望中。。。
a*n
14 楼
版主,这个可以 mark 吧。这是非常专业的知识,
we don't see this often; it's first time i've ever
known at least.
we don't see this often; it's first time i've ever
known at least.
f*s
15 楼
那按照这个解释就不会有spillover流到EB3了因为多余的visa全会被分配到NVC -海外
EB2.可以这么理解吗?
EB2.可以这么理解吗?
r*n
16 楼
originally I had similar misunderstandings.......
after detailed research, I found the spill over will not go to EB3 or minmum
will go to EB3.
NVC has sent invitations to many people to submit fee, some people with PD
2008 also got notices already.
Apparently NVC started this action after DOS realized the huge number of
spill overs this year in this April. NVC sent tons of emails in this April.
【在 f********s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 那按照这个解释就不会有spillover流到EB3了因为多余的visa全会被分配到NVC -海外
: EB2.可以这么理解吗?
after detailed research, I found the spill over will not go to EB3 or minmum
will go to EB3.
NVC has sent invitations to many people to submit fee, some people with PD
2008 also got notices already.
Apparently NVC started this action after DOS realized the huge number of
spill overs this year in this April. NVC sent tons of emails in this April.
【在 f********s 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 那按照这个解释就不会有spillover流到EB3了因为多余的visa全会被分配到NVC -海外
: EB2.可以这么理解吗?
j*e
17 楼
Consular Processing的人从PD current到被批中间间隔有多少时间?如果他们PD一到
就能批,那如果9月排期到09年,那些Consular Processing PD在08,09年的人立即就
能批的话,岂不是插队插到了大批07 PWMB的人前面?
就能批,那如果9月排期到09年,那些Consular Processing PD在08,09年的人立即就
能批的话,岂不是插队插到了大批07 PWMB的人前面?
a*n
19 楼
can we interpret this as that the PD will for sure move
beyond 2008.1.1 this FY?
"some people with PD 2008 also got notices already"
minmum
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: originally I had similar misunderstandings.......
: after detailed research, I found the spill over will not go to EB3 or minmum
: will go to EB3.
: NVC has sent invitations to many people to submit fee, some people with PD
: 2008 also got notices already.
: Apparently NVC started this action after DOS realized the huge number of
: spill overs this year in this April. NVC sent tons of emails in this April.
beyond 2008.1.1 this FY?
"some people with PD 2008 also got notices already"
minmum
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: originally I had similar misunderstandings.......
: after detailed research, I found the spill over will not go to EB3 or minmum
: will go to EB3.
: NVC has sent invitations to many people to submit fee, some people with PD
: 2008 also got notices already.
: Apparently NVC started this action after DOS realized the huge number of
: spill overs this year in this April. NVC sent tons of emails in this April.
r*n
21 楼
not a sure thing, usually NVC sent out fee notice within 12 months period.
as far as PD 2008 can be current by the next April, they can not be blamed.
My persional opinion is that they will definitely move to 2008 in this
summer.
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: can we interpret this as that the PD will for sure move
: beyond 2008.1.1 this FY?
: "some people with PD 2008 also got notices already"
:
: minmum
as far as PD 2008 can be current by the next April, they can not be blamed.
My persional opinion is that they will definitely move to 2008 in this
summer.
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: can we interpret this as that the PD will for sure move
: beyond 2008.1.1 this FY?
: "some people with PD 2008 also got notices already"
:
: minmum
r*n
22 楼
It is very likely that some people with PD 2008 will get GC through consular
processing in this summer especially Indian EB2 because many Indian EB2
chose consular processing option. Indians got 17k EB3 in 2007 summer. Many
of these got GC by consular processing.
As far as I know, very few Chinese choose consular processing.
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 如果Consular Processing的人确实PD一到就能批,而今年又确实有大量SO会浪费,那
: 奥本确有可能把大把名额送给PD 08,09 的Consular Processing EB2.
processing in this summer especially Indian EB2 because many Indian EB2
chose consular processing option. Indians got 17k EB3 in 2007 summer. Many
of these got GC by consular processing.
As far as I know, very few Chinese choose consular processing.
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 如果Consular Processing的人确实PD一到就能批,而今年又确实有大量SO会浪费,那
: 奥本确有可能把大把名额送给PD 08,09 的Consular Processing EB2.
a*n
23 楼
485 processing requires name check etc. and that's the main reason why it wo
n't be immediately approved. CP doesn't need to go through this process ?
consular
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: It is very likely that some people with PD 2008 will get GC through consular
: processing in this summer especially Indian EB2 because many Indian EB2
: chose consular processing option. Indians got 17k EB3 in 2007 summer. Many
: of these got GC by consular processing.
: As far as I know, very few Chinese choose consular processing.
n't be immediately approved. CP doesn't need to go through this process ?
consular
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: It is very likely that some people with PD 2008 will get GC through consular
: processing in this summer especially Indian EB2 because many Indian EB2
: chose consular processing option. Indians got 17k EB3 in 2007 summer. Many
: of these got GC by consular processing.
: As far as I know, very few Chinese choose consular processing.
i*r
24 楼
如您所说,如果排期在9月份到达Q22008,那么是不是Q3,Q42008的和2009年的PD都得
等到12年夏天才能交485了?
那这样08年Q1Q2其实要比08年Q3Q4早一年叫485和拿到绿卡啊。差别也太大了吧?
我正好是Q3 2008的,早知道提前几个月交Perm了。
how
next
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: If more spill over can be generated in this summer, they have to allocate
: the extra number to NVC, you may get a chance to submit 485. It depends how
: many visa numbers NVC can get.
: Even if you can't submit 485 this summer, you will be able to submit it next
: summer. Next year I expect at least 25k spill over. 4 years waiting is
: impossible.
等到12年夏天才能交485了?
那这样08年Q1Q2其实要比08年Q3Q4早一年叫485和拿到绿卡啊。差别也太大了吧?
我正好是Q3 2008的,早知道提前几个月交Perm了。
how
next
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: If more spill over can be generated in this summer, they have to allocate
: the extra number to NVC, you may get a chance to submit 485. It depends how
: many visa numbers NVC can get.
: Even if you can't submit 485 this summer, you will be able to submit it next
: summer. Next year I expect at least 25k spill over. 4 years waiting is
: impossible.
a*n
25 楼
It's life, unfortunately
But I don't think most Q1Q2 2008 ppl will have a chance to get gc this
summer. You submi
t 485 in Sep and there is only one month for your PD to be current - it's ba
rely enough to clear the name check.
I am not sure if the name check thing also applies to CP processing
【在 i*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 如您所说,如果排期在9月份到达Q22008,那么是不是Q3,Q42008的和2009年的PD都得
: 等到12年夏天才能交485了?
: 那这样08年Q1Q2其实要比08年Q3Q4早一年叫485和拿到绿卡啊。差别也太大了吧?
: 我正好是Q3 2008的,早知道提前几个月交Perm了。
:
: how
: next
But I don't think most Q1Q2 2008 ppl will have a chance to get gc this
summer. You submi
t 485 in Sep and there is only one month for your PD to be current - it's ba
rely enough to clear the name check.
I am not sure if the name check thing also applies to CP processing
【在 i*****r 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 如您所说,如果排期在9月份到达Q22008,那么是不是Q3,Q42008的和2009年的PD都得
: 等到12年夏天才能交485了?
: 那这样08年Q1Q2其实要比08年Q3Q4早一年叫485和拿到绿卡啊。差别也太大了吧?
: 我正好是Q3 2008的,早知道提前几个月交Perm了。
:
: how
: next
j*e
26 楼
NVC(consular processing)的官方统计数据在此http://travel.state.gov/pdf/WaitingListItem.pdf,第8页
截至去年11/1,等候广州领事处理的EB2-C一共有1022,等候领事处理的印度EB-2一共
有3350,这里面包括所有PD 2006-2010的case。CP的量不是很大,所以如果奥本要把大
量SO给CP的Eb2,那真的是ALL C都有可能。
网上找到一个Consular Processing tracker:
http://www.immihelp.com/tracker/greencard-trackers/consular-pro 里面有很多CP的关键日期,不是很懂,不知道是否CP的case都是PD current以后马上就绿的?
截至去年11/1,等候广州领事处理的EB2-C一共有1022,等候领事处理的印度EB-2一共
有3350,这里面包括所有PD 2006-2010的case。CP的量不是很大,所以如果奥本要把大
量SO给CP的Eb2,那真的是ALL C都有可能。
网上找到一个Consular Processing tracker:
http://www.immihelp.com/tracker/greencard-trackers/consular-pro 里面有很多CP的关键日期,不是很懂,不知道是否CP的case都是PD current以后马上就绿的?
a*n
27 楼
Mark ba
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: NVC(consular processing)的官方统计数据在此http://travel.state.gov/pdf/WaitingListItem.pdf,第8页
: 截至去年11/1,等候广州领事处理的EB2-C一共有1022,等候领事处理的印度EB-2一共
: 有3350,这里面包括所有PD 2006-2010的case。CP的量不是很大,所以如果奥本要把大
: 量SO给CP的Eb2,那真的是ALL C都有可能。
: 网上找到一个Consular Processing tracker:
: http://www.immihelp.com/tracker/greencard-trackers/consular-pro 里面有很多CP的关键日期,不是很懂,不知道是否CP的case都是PD current以后马上就绿的?
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: NVC(consular processing)的官方统计数据在此http://travel.state.gov/pdf/WaitingListItem.pdf,第8页
: 截至去年11/1,等候广州领事处理的EB2-C一共有1022,等候领事处理的印度EB-2一共
: 有3350,这里面包括所有PD 2006-2010的case。CP的量不是很大,所以如果奥本要把大
: 量SO给CP的Eb2,那真的是ALL C都有可能。
: 网上找到一个Consular Processing tracker:
: http://www.immihelp.com/tracker/greencard-trackers/consular-pro 里面有很多CP的关键日期,不是很懂,不知道是否CP的case都是PD current以后马上就绿的?
r*n
28 楼
no, once you are notified to go to do interviews in consulates, a visa
number has been assigned to you. by this way, they can use these visa
numbers quickly. Once you finish your interview, they will do name check and
issue you a green card. If your case is denied, they will get this visa
number back, but it's very rare.
they have a system to estimate the demand. once 140 is approved, your
information has been forwarded into their system if you choose CP option.
They estimate the total visa number VS the demand in their system every
month. They send out fee notices once they forecast your PD will be current
soon.
Generally speaking, CP processing is faster than 485.
ba
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: It's life, unfortunately
: But I don't think most Q1Q2 2008 ppl will have a chance to get gc this
: summer. You submi
: t 485 in Sep and there is only one month for your PD to be current - it's ba
: rely enough to clear the name check.
: I am not sure if the name check thing also applies to CP processing
number has been assigned to you. by this way, they can use these visa
numbers quickly. Once you finish your interview, they will do name check and
issue you a green card. If your case is denied, they will get this visa
number back, but it's very rare.
they have a system to estimate the demand. once 140 is approved, your
information has been forwarded into their system if you choose CP option.
They estimate the total visa number VS the demand in their system every
month. They send out fee notices once they forecast your PD will be current
soon.
Generally speaking, CP processing is faster than 485.
ba
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: It's life, unfortunately
: But I don't think most Q1Q2 2008 ppl will have a chance to get gc this
: summer. You submi
: t 485 in Sep and there is only one month for your PD to be current - it's ba
: rely enough to clear the name check.
: I am not sure if the name check thing also applies to CP processing
j*e
29 楼
那CP的人从PD current到interview中间间隔一般多久?
另外take a visa number不代表他占用了这个visa number,如果最后interview下来被
拒签,那这个visa number应该还要吐出来,不会就此浪费吧?
and
current
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: no, once you are notified to go to do interviews in consulates, a visa
: number has been assigned to you. by this way, they can use these visa
: numbers quickly. Once you finish your interview, they will do name check and
: issue you a green card. If your case is denied, they will get this visa
: number back, but it's very rare.
: they have a system to estimate the demand. once 140 is approved, your
: information has been forwarded into their system if you choose CP option.
: They estimate the total visa number VS the demand in their system every
: month. They send out fee notices once they forecast your PD will be current
: soon.
另外take a visa number不代表他占用了这个visa number,如果最后interview下来被
拒签,那这个visa number应该还要吐出来,不会就此浪费吧?
and
current
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: no, once you are notified to go to do interviews in consulates, a visa
: number has been assigned to you. by this way, they can use these visa
: numbers quickly. Once you finish your interview, they will do name check and
: issue you a green card. If your case is denied, they will get this visa
: number back, but it's very rare.
: they have a system to estimate the demand. once 140 is approved, your
: information has been forwarded into their system if you choose CP option.
: They estimate the total visa number VS the demand in their system every
: month. They send out fee notices once they forecast your PD will be current
: soon.
L*s
32 楼
又没说停止哪个国家的申请,等排期的是开心了,那那些刚毕业的呢..
E*5
33 楼
和我律师说的一样。
不过,我的律师说从485申请转CP是可以的,但是这个申请要花很长时间(几个月)处
理,在她看来不太好。所以她是建议我们一开始就选CP。CP转485是非常方便的,没什
么特别的程序,PD current后,在美国国内直接交485就可以从CP转过来。
另外,我的律师的观点是CP被拒是很罕见的,比如资料作假。
and
current
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: no, once you are notified to go to do interviews in consulates, a visa
: number has been assigned to you. by this way, they can use these visa
: numbers quickly. Once you finish your interview, they will do name check and
: issue you a green card. If your case is denied, they will get this visa
: number back, but it's very rare.
: they have a system to estimate the demand. once 140 is approved, your
: information has been forwarded into their system if you choose CP option.
: They estimate the total visa number VS the demand in their system every
: month. They send out fee notices once they forecast your PD will be current
: soon.
不过,我的律师说从485申请转CP是可以的,但是这个申请要花很长时间(几个月)处
理,在她看来不太好。所以她是建议我们一开始就选CP。CP转485是非常方便的,没什
么特别的程序,PD current后,在美国国内直接交485就可以从CP转过来。
另外,我的律师的观点是CP被拒是很罕见的,比如资料作假。
and
current
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: no, once you are notified to go to do interviews in consulates, a visa
: number has been assigned to you. by this way, they can use these visa
: numbers quickly. Once you finish your interview, they will do name check and
: issue you a green card. If your case is denied, they will get this visa
: number back, but it's very rare.
: they have a system to estimate the demand. once 140 is approved, your
: information has been forwarded into their system if you choose CP option.
: They estimate the total visa number VS the demand in their system every
: month. They send out fee notices once they forecast your PD will be current
: soon.
p*e
34 楼
有点不懂,你说海外大使馆会用掉剩下的名额,
举个例子
排期比如set 到 2008年6月
USCIS只能批到2007年8月的,因为后面递交485都不能批
但是NVC 能批07年8月后的?
thanks
调。
EB2 from April.
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 很多人不理解为什么停止处理新申请是件好事情,因为大多数人不理解USCIS, NVC,
: DOS之间的关系。
: 举个例子:
: 比如8,9月剩下13000名额,其中USCIS可以批准的demand只有10000,那它只能获得
: 10000,剩下3000归NVC(发放到海外大使馆)。如果NVC根据它的数据发现海外大使馆到
: 2009年1月1日总共才有3000个demand,那最后9月的排期就会到2009年1月1日,虽然美国
: 境内的AOS总共才有10000人而且不能批准最新递交的485,但是海外大使馆会用掉剩下
: 的名额,剩下的越多,排期前进的越多。等新的财年开始,就又根据AOS 485数量回调。
: That's why NVC (National Visa Center) has sent tons of fee notice to EB2 from April.
: To add two things:
举个例子
排期比如set 到 2008年6月
USCIS只能批到2007年8月的,因为后面递交485都不能批
但是NVC 能批07年8月后的?
thanks
调。
EB2 from April.
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 很多人不理解为什么停止处理新申请是件好事情,因为大多数人不理解USCIS, NVC,
: DOS之间的关系。
: 举个例子:
: 比如8,9月剩下13000名额,其中USCIS可以批准的demand只有10000,那它只能获得
: 10000,剩下3000归NVC(发放到海外大使馆)。如果NVC根据它的数据发现海外大使馆到
: 2009年1月1日总共才有3000个demand,那最后9月的排期就会到2009年1月1日,虽然美国
: 境内的AOS总共才有10000人而且不能批准最新递交的485,但是海外大使馆会用掉剩下
: 的名额,剩下的越多,排期前进的越多。等新的财年开始,就又根据AOS 485数量回调。
: That's why NVC (National Visa Center) has sent tons of fee notice to EB2 from April.
: To add two things:
r*n
36 楼
yes, it is faster to get GC from CP processing. CP processing also has very
high approval rate. It is chosen in 140 step.
It's easy to change from CP processing to AOS, but it's difficult to change
from AOS to CP.
Once the inteview is finished, the visa number is used. Although usually you
have to wait one more month for name check, CP processing has lower denial
rate. So basically almost every visa number allocated to CP processing is
consumed by FY 2012. If it is denied, then the visa number will be retracted.
【在 p***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 有点不懂,你说海外大使馆会用掉剩下的名额,
: 举个例子
: 排期比如set 到 2008年6月
: USCIS只能批到2007年8月的,因为后面递交485都不能批
: 但是NVC 能批07年8月后的?
: thanks
:
: 调。
: EB2 from April.
high approval rate. It is chosen in 140 step.
It's easy to change from CP processing to AOS, but it's difficult to change
from AOS to CP.
Once the inteview is finished, the visa number is used. Although usually you
have to wait one more month for name check, CP processing has lower denial
rate. So basically almost every visa number allocated to CP processing is
consumed by FY 2012. If it is denied, then the visa number will be retracted.
【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 有点不懂,你说海外大使馆会用掉剩下的名额,
: 举个例子
: 排期比如set 到 2008年6月
: USCIS只能批到2007年8月的,因为后面递交485都不能批
: 但是NVC 能批07年8月后的?
: thanks
:
: 调。
: EB2 from April.
p*e
37 楼
恩,火箭扇子解释一下豁然开朗呵呵
p*e
38 楼
有个问题,那USCIS 485的数据,有包括这些CP的吗?
a*n
43 楼
NVC(consular processing)的官方统计数据在此http://travel.state.gov/pdf/Wait
ingL
istItem.pdf,第8页
截至去年11/1,等候广州领事处理的EB2-C一共有1022,等候领事处理的印度EB-2一共
有3350,这里面包括所有PD 2006-2010的case。CP的量不是很大,所以如果奥本要把大
量SO给CP的Eb2,那真的是ALL C都有可能。
网上找到一个Consular Processing tracker:
http://www.immihelp.com/tracker/greencard-trackers/consular-pro
er.d
o 里面有很多CP的关键日期,不是很懂,不知道是否CP的case都是PD current以后马上
就绿
的?
【在 p***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 但是应该包括在PERM的 DATA里面吧,这样可以从那里扣除一点数量呵呵
ingL
istItem.pdf,第8页
截至去年11/1,等候广州领事处理的EB2-C一共有1022,等候领事处理的印度EB-2一共
有3350,这里面包括所有PD 2006-2010的case。CP的量不是很大,所以如果奥本要把大
量SO给CP的Eb2,那真的是ALL C都有可能。
网上找到一个Consular Processing tracker:
http://www.immihelp.com/tracker/greencard-trackers/consular-pro
er.d
o 里面有很多CP的关键日期,不是很懂,不知道是否CP的case都是PD current以后马上
就绿
的?
【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 但是应该包括在PERM的 DATA里面吧,这样可以从那里扣除一点数量呵呵
p*e
44 楼
C 的可能性可能不大吧
track
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: NVC(consular processing)的官方统计数据在此http://travel.state.gov/pdf/Wait
: ingL
: istItem.pdf,第8页
: 截至去年11/1,等候广州领事处理的EB2-C一共有1022,等候领事处理的印度EB-2一共
: 有3350,这里面包括所有PD 2006-2010的case。CP的量不是很大,所以如果奥本要把大
: 量SO给CP的Eb2,那真的是ALL C都有可能。
: 网上找到一个Consular Processing tracker:
: http://www.immihelp.com/tracker/greencard-trackers/consular-pro
: er.d
: o 里面有很多CP的关键日期,不是很懂,不知道是否CP的case都是PD current以后马上
track
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: NVC(consular processing)的官方统计数据在此http://travel.state.gov/pdf/Wait
: ingL
: istItem.pdf,第8页
: 截至去年11/1,等候广州领事处理的EB2-C一共有1022,等候领事处理的印度EB-2一共
: 有3350,这里面包括所有PD 2006-2010的case。CP的量不是很大,所以如果奥本要把大
: 量SO给CP的Eb2,那真的是ALL C都有可能。
: 网上找到一个Consular Processing tracker:
: http://www.immihelp.com/tracker/greencard-trackers/consular-pro
: er.d
: o 里面有很多CP的关键日期,不是很懂,不知道是否CP的case都是PD current以后马上
a*l
46 楼
It seems very reasonable that 2008 pd can be current in 12 months,even with
the worst-cast prediction.
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: not a sure thing, usually NVC sent out fee notice within 12 months period.
: as far as PD 2008 can be current by the next April, they can not be blamed.
: My persional opinion is that they will definitely move to 2008 in this
: summer.
the worst-cast prediction.
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: not a sure thing, usually NVC sent out fee notice within 12 months period.
: as far as PD 2008 can be current by the next April, they can not be blamed.
: My persional opinion is that they will definitely move to 2008 in this
: summer.
a*n
47 楼
why
? even suppose this year's SO is 36000
It's just enough to clear until 07/07
29000 485 pending + 4000 PWMB + 1000 or so CP
From 07/07 to 08 there are quite a lot C&I 485 to be filed according to PERM
data; and you definitely need another huge SO to consume these 485/cp next
year - will next year have another huge SO ? This is far from certain.
with
【在 a****l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: It seems very reasonable that 2008 pd can be current in 12 months,even with
: the worst-cast prediction.
? even suppose this year's SO is 36000
It's just enough to clear until 07/07
29000 485 pending + 4000 PWMB + 1000 or so CP
From 07/07 to 08 there are quite a lot C&I 485 to be filed according to PERM
data; and you definitely need another huge SO to consume these 485/cp next
year - will next year have another huge SO ? This is far from certain.
with
【在 a****l 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: It seems very reasonable that 2008 pd can be current in 12 months,even with
: the worst-cast prediction.
a*l
49 楼
simply, it moved 14 months in fy2010, and probably the same for fy2011, so
very possible another 12 months in fy2012, which put it in the mid-2008.
PERM
next
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: why
: ? even suppose this year's SO is 36000
: It's just enough to clear until 07/07
: 29000 485 pending + 4000 PWMB + 1000 or so CP
: From 07/07 to 08 there are quite a lot C&I 485 to be filed according to PERM
: data; and you definitely need another huge SO to consume these 485/cp next
: year - will next year have another huge SO ? This is far from certain.
:
: with
very possible another 12 months in fy2012, which put it in the mid-2008.
PERM
next
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: why
: ? even suppose this year's SO is 36000
: It's just enough to clear until 07/07
: 29000 485 pending + 4000 PWMB + 1000 or so CP
: From 07/07 to 08 there are quite a lot C&I 485 to be filed according to PERM
: data; and you definitely need another huge SO to consume these 485/cp next
: year - will next year have another huge SO ? This is far from certain.
:
: with
h*8
50 楼
mark, 大赞
版主应该加入精华区或者置顶
调。
from April.
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 很多人不理解为什么停止处理新申请是件好事情,因为大多数人不理解USCIS, NVC,
: DOS之间的关系。
: 举个例子:
: 比如8,9月剩下13000名额,其中USCIS可以批准的demand只有10000,那它只能获得
: 10000,剩下3000归NVC(发放到海外大使馆)。如果NVC根据它的数据发现海外大使馆到
: 2009年1月1日总共才有3000个demand,那最后9月的排期就会到2009年1月1日,虽然美国
: 境内的AOS总共才有10000人而且不能批准最新递交的485,但是海外大使馆会用掉剩下
: 的名额,剩下的越多,排期前进的越多。等新的财年开始,就又根据AOS 485数量回调。
: That's why NVC (National Visa Center) has sent tons of fee notice to EB2 from April.
: To add two things:
版主应该加入精华区或者置顶
调。
from April.
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 很多人不理解为什么停止处理新申请是件好事情,因为大多数人不理解USCIS, NVC,
: DOS之间的关系。
: 举个例子:
: 比如8,9月剩下13000名额,其中USCIS可以批准的demand只有10000,那它只能获得
: 10000,剩下3000归NVC(发放到海外大使馆)。如果NVC根据它的数据发现海外大使馆到
: 2009年1月1日总共才有3000个demand,那最后9月的排期就会到2009年1月1日,虽然美国
: 境内的AOS总共才有10000人而且不能批准最新递交的485,但是海外大使馆会用掉剩下
: 的名额,剩下的越多,排期前进的越多。等新的财年开始,就又根据AOS 485数量回调。
: That's why NVC (National Visa Center) has sent tons of fee notice to EB2 from April.
: To add two things:
B*r
51 楼
再问一下rocketfans,既然CP的好处这么多,优势很明显,那为什么大家还要走485的
路呢?另外,申请CP这条路有没有特殊要求?
路呢?另外,申请CP这条路有没有特殊要求?
r*n
56 楼
yes, some people's attorney did choose CP option for them.
One concern is travel cost. You have to travel and stay abroad for at least
1-2 months. Most of the companies don't like that and they chose 485 for
their own interests. The companies are blood suckers and laywers only work
for companies.
便。
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 但CP如果排期一到就能绿的话,要AP,EAD有啥用呢?直接就绿了。尤其像9月如果放大
: 水,照你所说,08,09PD的人如果当初选择CP,直接就能绿,比选择485的同时期PD的
: 人早绿1年都有可能。
: 而且如果不想回国签证,排期到的时候直接在美国递485,转回485方式就行了,很方便。
: 这样看,140的时候选择CP应该是最佳选项。
One concern is travel cost. You have to travel and stay abroad for at least
1-2 months. Most of the companies don't like that and they chose 485 for
their own interests. The companies are blood suckers and laywers only work
for companies.
便。
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 但CP如果排期一到就能绿的话,要AP,EAD有啥用呢?直接就绿了。尤其像9月如果放大
: 水,照你所说,08,09PD的人如果当初选择CP,直接就能绿,比选择485的同时期PD的
: 人早绿1年都有可能。
: 而且如果不想回国签证,排期到的时候直接在美国递485,转回485方式就行了,很方便。
: 这样看,140的时候选择CP应该是最佳选项。
F*1
57 楼
Mark, please! I don't wanne be PWMB
j*e
58 楼
只要排期有大进大退,版上等卡的诸位必有一部分成为新一批的PWMB。除非ALL C,那
么还没来本版的小弟小妹们将成为新一批的PWMB。
么还没来本版的小弟小妹们将成为新一批的PWMB。
g*e
60 楼
好文章,mark之后好好读读。
r*n
66 楼
the issue is that how to define "大进大退"?
I don't think moving to 2008 is a big jump at all.
They have to get more cases prepared for next year's spill over.
Otherwise visas will go to EB3.
It will be too late to start accepting new cases in the next year.
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 只要排期有大进大退,版上等卡的诸位必有一部分成为新一批的PWMB。除非ALL C,那
: 么还没来本版的小弟小妹们将成为新一批的PWMB。
I don't think moving to 2008 is a big jump at all.
They have to get more cases prepared for next year's spill over.
Otherwise visas will go to EB3.
It will be too late to start accepting new cases in the next year.
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 只要排期有大进大退,版上等卡的诸位必有一部分成为新一批的PWMB。除非ALL C,那
: 么还没来本版的小弟小妹们将成为新一批的PWMB。
E*5
69 楼
我们选了CP , PD 2008,Aug, 还没收到缴费通知,所以应该不会到Q3,2008. 我是这
么猜的。估计最晚划到Q2,2008.
Q2,2008后的还是该干嘛干嘛去吧。
么猜的。估计最晚划到Q2,2008.
Q2,2008后的还是该干嘛干嘛去吧。
j*e
72 楼
我觉得"大进大退"可以这样定义,当排期前进到某一点又倒退,倒退后慢慢再前进回到
原先最高点的时候,两次排期高点相隔超过9个月,就算"大进大退"。当然这个9个月,是见仁见智的,有人可能觉得12个月才算。
如果很快就爬回来,比如两三个月就爬回原点,肯定无所谓。
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: the issue is that how to define "大进大退"?
: I don't think moving to 2008 is a big jump at all.
: They have to get more cases prepared for next year's spill over.
: Otherwise visas will go to EB3.
: It will be too late to start accepting new cases in the next year.
原先最高点的时候,两次排期高点相隔超过9个月,就算"大进大退"。当然这个9个月,是见仁见智的,有人可能觉得12个月才算。
如果很快就爬回来,比如两三个月就爬回原点,肯定无所谓。
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: the issue is that how to define "大进大退"?
: I don't think moving to 2008 is a big jump at all.
: They have to get more cases prepared for next year's spill over.
: Otherwise visas will go to EB3.
: It will be too late to start accepting new cases in the next year.
S*r
74 楼
since there won't be too many PWMBers left for 2007 PD?
Is it correct to assume that how fast the VB progress after the retrogress
next FY will largely depend on how long it takes USCIS to pre-adjudicate the
newly accepted I-485s?
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: In Oct VB, it may go back to May 2007, but it will progress fast.
Is it correct to assume that how fast the VB progress after the retrogress
next FY will largely depend on how long it takes USCIS to pre-adjudicate the
newly accepted I-485s?
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: In Oct VB, it may go back to May 2007, but it will progress fast.
r*n
75 楼
It is decided by Mr.O.
Ideally they should allocate the numbers evenly every month, but they always
allocate a huge number of numbers in the last quarter. They have to prepare
enough cases to consume those numbers in the last quarter.
Yes, it is great to move forward month by month, but Mr.O does not allow us
to use spill over on a quarter basis, he only wants to create these high
points in every summer.
It's the visa allocation method that caused these issues.
In addition, 2007.07 event caused big number of PWMB, but the reason was
that PERM could not get approved quickly enough. Some people have PD of May
2007, but his/her PERM was not approved and then he/she missed the gate.
However, now almost all the 2008 PERM have been processed, nobody will miss
this gate any more if he/she has access to Internet.
,是见仁见智的,有人可能觉得12个月才算。
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得"大进大退"可以这样定义,当排期前进到某一点又倒退,倒退后慢慢再前进回到
: 原先最高点的时候,两次排期高点相隔超过9个月,就算"大进大退"。当然这个9个月,是见仁见智的,有人可能觉得12个月才算。
: 如果很快就爬回来,比如两三个月就爬回原点,肯定无所谓。
Ideally they should allocate the numbers evenly every month, but they always
allocate a huge number of numbers in the last quarter. They have to prepare
enough cases to consume those numbers in the last quarter.
Yes, it is great to move forward month by month, but Mr.O does not allow us
to use spill over on a quarter basis, he only wants to create these high
points in every summer.
It's the visa allocation method that caused these issues.
In addition, 2007.07 event caused big number of PWMB, but the reason was
that PERM could not get approved quickly enough. Some people have PD of May
2007, but his/her PERM was not approved and then he/she missed the gate.
However, now almost all the 2008 PERM have been processed, nobody will miss
this gate any more if he/she has access to Internet.
,是见仁见智的,有人可能觉得12个月才算。
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得"大进大退"可以这样定义,当排期前进到某一点又倒退,倒退后慢慢再前进回到
: 原先最高点的时候,两次排期高点相隔超过9个月,就算"大进大退"。当然这个9个月,是见仁见智的,有人可能觉得12个月才算。
: 如果很快就爬回来,比如两三个月就爬回原点,肯定无所谓。
r*n
76 楼
1. PWMB demand will be the key. I believe they will try to process all the
PWMB demand first. I estimate around 1000 China EB2 has PD earlier than
August 2007 and missed the boat. The first quarter will focus on the cases
between 05/2007 to 08/2007. Then they will move forward to approve the cases
between 08/2007-10/2007, another 1000 demand, etc........
2. They will definitely pre-adjudicate all the cases next FY, but they may
only approve the people with earlier PD in 2007 in the first 3 quarters. I
estimate totally there are 3k-4k China EB2 demand with PD of 2007.
3. The last quarter of FY 2012 (next summer), they will approve all the 2008
cases that are ready (around 2k-3k), along with the Indian EB2 demand (much
bigger).
the
【在 S*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: since there won't be too many PWMBers left for 2007 PD?
: Is it correct to assume that how fast the VB progress after the retrogress
: next FY will largely depend on how long it takes USCIS to pre-adjudicate the
: newly accepted I-485s?
PWMB demand first. I estimate around 1000 China EB2 has PD earlier than
August 2007 and missed the boat. The first quarter will focus on the cases
between 05/2007 to 08/2007. Then they will move forward to approve the cases
between 08/2007-10/2007, another 1000 demand, etc........
2. They will definitely pre-adjudicate all the cases next FY, but they may
only approve the people with earlier PD in 2007 in the first 3 quarters. I
estimate totally there are 3k-4k China EB2 demand with PD of 2007.
3. The last quarter of FY 2012 (next summer), they will approve all the 2008
cases that are ready (around 2k-3k), along with the Indian EB2 demand (much
bigger).
the
【在 S*******r 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: since there won't be too many PWMBers left for 2007 PD?
: Is it correct to assume that how fast the VB progress after the retrogress
: next FY will largely depend on how long it takes USCIS to pre-adjudicate the
: newly accepted I-485s?
r*n
78 楼
It is bad, but why?
the root of this is that Mr.O does not allocate the spill over based on a
quarter basis.
If he can allocate the spill over on a quarter basis, they can move the PD
slowly and steadily.
Q2
PWMB
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 如果划到08年Q2,又倒退回07年Q3,然后慢慢爬,等一年以后爬回原地的时候,08 Q2
: 的人都已经预批了,排期一到就能批,而刚好错过的人连485都还没递,你说这批PWMB
: 的人是不是亏了?
the root of this is that Mr.O does not allocate the spill over based on a
quarter basis.
If he can allocate the spill over on a quarter basis, they can move the PD
slowly and steadily.
Q2
PWMB
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 如果划到08年Q2,又倒退回07年Q3,然后慢慢爬,等一年以后爬回原地的时候,08 Q2
: 的人都已经预批了,排期一到就能批,而刚好错过的人连485都还没递,你说这批PWMB
: 的人是不是亏了?
i*r
79 楼
但是假设9月份大门开到08年6月,那么08年6月之前的9月份就可以交485,那么08年6月
以后的批
准的140就至少要到09年夏天才能交485了?那这部分人岂不又成了新的PWMB了?
尤其是08年7月份的人,比08年6月份的整整晚至少一年啊,这多亏啊。
最好是大门开到07/07以后所有140已经批准的人。
always
prepare
us
May
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: It is decided by Mr.O.
: Ideally they should allocate the numbers evenly every month, but they always
: allocate a huge number of numbers in the last quarter. They have to prepare
: enough cases to consume those numbers in the last quarter.
: Yes, it is great to move forward month by month, but Mr.O does not allow us
: to use spill over on a quarter basis, he only wants to create these high
: points in every summer.
: It's the visa allocation method that caused these issues.
: In addition, 2007.07 event caused big number of PWMB, but the reason was
: that PERM could not get approved quickly enough. Some people have PD of May
以后的批
准的140就至少要到09年夏天才能交485了?那这部分人岂不又成了新的PWMB了?
尤其是08年7月份的人,比08年6月份的整整晚至少一年啊,这多亏啊。
最好是大门开到07/07以后所有140已经批准的人。
always
prepare
us
May
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: It is decided by Mr.O.
: Ideally they should allocate the numbers evenly every month, but they always
: allocate a huge number of numbers in the last quarter. They have to prepare
: enough cases to consume those numbers in the last quarter.
: Yes, it is great to move forward month by month, but Mr.O does not allow us
: to use spill over on a quarter basis, he only wants to create these high
: points in every summer.
: It's the visa allocation method that caused these issues.
: In addition, 2007.07 event caused big number of PWMB, but the reason was
: that PERM could not get approved quickly enough. Some people have PD of May
i*r
80 楼
但是假设9月份大门开到08年6月,那么08年6月之前的9月份就可以交485,那么08年6月
以后的批
准的140就至少要到09年夏天才能交485了?那这部分人岂不又成了新的PWMB了?
尤其是08年7月份的人,比08年6月份的整整晚至少一年啊,这多亏啊。
最好是大门开到07/07以后所有140已经批准的人。
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: It is bad, but why?
: the root of this is that Mr.O does not allocate the spill over based on a
: quarter basis.
: If he can allocate the spill over on a quarter basis, they can move the PD
: slowly and steadily.
:
: Q2
: PWMB
以后的批
准的140就至少要到09年夏天才能交485了?那这部分人岂不又成了新的PWMB了?
尤其是08年7月份的人,比08年6月份的整整晚至少一年啊,这多亏啊。
最好是大门开到07/07以后所有140已经批准的人。
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: It is bad, but why?
: the root of this is that Mr.O does not allocate the spill over based on a
: quarter basis.
: If he can allocate the spill over on a quarter basis, they can move the PD
: slowly and steadily.
:
: Q2
: PWMB
r*n
81 楼
it depends on how you define PWMB.
almost every 2008 China PERM has been processed and they are ready to submit
485 whenever the gate is open.
the reason for PWMB in 2007 was that some folks didn't get PERM approved yet
when they opened the gate.
Now I think 99% China PERM with PD 2008 have been processed.It's hard to
believe that their cases are still pending.
As far as your PERM is approved, you can submit 485. It has nothing to do
with 140.
【在 i*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 但是假设9月份大门开到08年6月,那么08年6月之前的9月份就可以交485,那么08年6月
: 以后的批
: 准的140就至少要到09年夏天才能交485了?那这部分人岂不又成了新的PWMB了?
: 尤其是08年7月份的人,比08年6月份的整整晚至少一年啊,这多亏啊。
: 最好是大门开到07/07以后所有140已经批准的人。
almost every 2008 China PERM has been processed and they are ready to submit
485 whenever the gate is open.
the reason for PWMB in 2007 was that some folks didn't get PERM approved yet
when they opened the gate.
Now I think 99% China PERM with PD 2008 have been processed.It's hard to
believe that their cases are still pending.
As far as your PERM is approved, you can submit 485. It has nothing to do
with 140.
【在 i*****r 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 但是假设9月份大门开到08年6月,那么08年6月之前的9月份就可以交485,那么08年6月
: 以后的批
: 准的140就至少要到09年夏天才能交485了?那这部分人岂不又成了新的PWMB了?
: 尤其是08年7月份的人,比08年6月份的整整晚至少一年啊,这多亏啊。
: 最好是大门开到07/07以后所有140已经批准的人。
r*n
82 楼
It is good to open the gate to all the EB2, but the chance is very small.
Our discussion should be based on the reality, not our ideal situation.
【在 i*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 但是假设9月份大门开到08年6月,那么08年6月之前的9月份就可以交485,那么08年6月
: 以后的批
: 准的140就至少要到09年夏天才能交485了?那这部分人岂不又成了新的PWMB了?
: 尤其是08年7月份的人,比08年6月份的整整晚至少一年啊,这多亏啊。
: 最好是大门开到07/07以后所有140已经批准的人。
Our discussion should be based on the reality, not our ideal situation.
【在 i*****r 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 但是假设9月份大门开到08年6月,那么08年6月之前的9月份就可以交485,那么08年6月
: 以后的批
: 准的140就至少要到09年夏天才能交485了?那这部分人岂不又成了新的PWMB了?
: 尤其是08年7月份的人,比08年6月份的整整晚至少一年啊,这多亏啊。
: 最好是大门开到07/07以后所有140已经批准的人。
f*u
83 楼
求current.
P*S
85 楼
虽然现在好消息不断,但有人想C也太理想化了,都只从EB2的角度考虑。
USCIS现在办新交的EAD和AP都是free。要是PD 2011年485交上四年才批,USCIS岂不白
干三四次EAD和AP renew?
USCIS最近正在哭穷。08年PD的还是先pray USCIS快点涨钱吧。这样九月PD进多一些,
USCIS至少不会反对。
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: It is good to open the gate to all the EB2, but the chance is very small.
: Our discussion should be based on the reality, not our ideal situation.
USCIS现在办新交的EAD和AP都是free。要是PD 2011年485交上四年才批,USCIS岂不白
干三四次EAD和AP renew?
USCIS最近正在哭穷。08年PD的还是先pray USCIS快点涨钱吧。这样九月PD进多一些,
USCIS至少不会反对。
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: It is good to open the gate to all the EB2, but the chance is very small.
: Our discussion should be based on the reality, not our ideal situation.
d*p
86 楼
CP actually has to set up in person interview in addition to background
check, I don't see how CP can consume many SO.... I believe many visa
numbers allocated to CP will be wasted
check, I don't see how CP can consume many SO.... I believe many visa
numbers allocated to CP will be wasted
g*3
89 楼
mark
p*j
91 楼
学习一下
a*n
92 楼
could someone clarify: do PWMB include PDs up until 8/31/07, or only till 7/31/
07?
cases
2008
much
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 1. PWMB demand will be the key. I believe they will try to process all the
: PWMB demand first. I estimate around 1000 China EB2 has PD earlier than
: August 2007 and missed the boat. The first quarter will focus on the cases
: between 05/2007 to 08/2007. Then they will move forward to approve the cases
: between 08/2007-10/2007, another 1000 demand, etc........
: 2. They will definitely pre-adjudicate all the cases next FY, but they may
: only approve the people with earlier PD in 2007 in the first 3 quarters. I
: estimate totally there are 3k-4k China EB2 demand with PD of 2007.
: 3. The last quarter of FY 2012 (next summer), they will approve all the 2008
: cases that are ready (around 2k-3k), along with the Indian EB2 demand (much
07?
cases
2008
much
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 1. PWMB demand will be the key. I believe they will try to process all the
: PWMB demand first. I estimate around 1000 China EB2 has PD earlier than
: August 2007 and missed the boat. The first quarter will focus on the cases
: between 05/2007 to 08/2007. Then they will move forward to approve the cases
: between 08/2007-10/2007, another 1000 demand, etc........
: 2. They will definitely pre-adjudicate all the cases next FY, but they may
: only approve the people with earlier PD in 2007 in the first 3 quarters. I
: estimate totally there are 3k-4k China EB2 demand with PD of 2007.
: 3. The last quarter of FY 2012 (next summer), they will approve all the 2008
: cases that are ready (around 2k-3k), along with the Indian EB2 demand (much
s*g
93 楼
学习了,谢谢!
调。
from April.
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 很多人不理解为什么停止处理新申请是件好事情,因为大多数人不理解USCIS, NVC,
: DOS之间的关系。
: 举个例子:
: 比如8,9月剩下13000名额,其中USCIS可以批准的demand只有10000,那它只能获得
: 10000,剩下3000归NVC(发放到海外大使馆)。如果NVC根据它的数据发现海外大使馆到
: 2009年1月1日总共才有3000个demand,那最后9月的排期就会到2009年1月1日,虽然美国
: 境内的AOS总共才有10000人而且不能批准最新递交的485,但是海外大使馆会用掉剩下
: 的名额,剩下的越多,排期前进的越多。等新的财年开始,就又根据AOS 485数量回调。
: That's why NVC (National Visa Center) has sent tons of fee notice to EB2 from April.
: To add two things:
调。
from April.
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 很多人不理解为什么停止处理新申请是件好事情,因为大多数人不理解USCIS, NVC,
: DOS之间的关系。
: 举个例子:
: 比如8,9月剩下13000名额,其中USCIS可以批准的demand只有10000,那它只能获得
: 10000,剩下3000归NVC(发放到海外大使馆)。如果NVC根据它的数据发现海外大使馆到
: 2009年1月1日总共才有3000个demand,那最后9月的排期就会到2009年1月1日,虽然美国
: 境内的AOS总共才有10000人而且不能批准最新递交的485,但是海外大使馆会用掉剩下
: 的名额,剩下的越多,排期前进的越多。等新的财年开始,就又根据AOS 485数量回调。
: That's why NVC (National Visa Center) has sent tons of fee notice to EB2 from April.
: To add two things:
j*e
94 楼
几个原因:
1.USCIS比较傻,所有PD到的人如果一起交的485,之后排期如果没有倒退,那它是
randomly处理的。比如07,08,09年的PD如果在9月一起递485,如果之后排期原地不动
,而不是倒退,那USCIS就随机批,09的就可能比07的先批。
2.奥本比较傻,把一年的名额分成12份,每个月EB2-C大概有250个名额(不考虑SO),
如果不倒退,USCIS会超量批准。
3.移民法规定,每年的名额要分成4个季度来检验,每个季度不能超过一定的限额,如
果不倒退,第一季度就可能超限额。
4.奥本不懂控制理论,一次放太多人进去,造成后面不得不倒退。
【在 f*c 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 有个不明白的:
: 为啥10月要再次倒退而不是停止不前?有啥区别?
:
: MAY07
1.USCIS比较傻,所有PD到的人如果一起交的485,之后排期如果没有倒退,那它是
randomly处理的。比如07,08,09年的PD如果在9月一起递485,如果之后排期原地不动
,而不是倒退,那USCIS就随机批,09的就可能比07的先批。
2.奥本比较傻,把一年的名额分成12份,每个月EB2-C大概有250个名额(不考虑SO),
如果不倒退,USCIS会超量批准。
3.移民法规定,每年的名额要分成4个季度来检验,每个季度不能超过一定的限额,如
果不倒退,第一季度就可能超限额。
4.奥本不懂控制理论,一次放太多人进去,造成后面不得不倒退。
【在 f*c 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 有个不明白的:
: 为啥10月要再次倒退而不是停止不前?有啥区别?
:
: MAY07
A*r
95 楼
mark
least
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: yes, some people's attorney did choose CP option for them.
: One concern is travel cost. You have to travel and stay abroad for at least
: 1-2 months. Most of the companies don't like that and they chose 485 for
: their own interests. The companies are blood suckers and laywers only work
: for companies.
:
: 便。
least
【在 r********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: yes, some people's attorney did choose CP option for them.
: One concern is travel cost. You have to travel and stay abroad for at least
: 1-2 months. Most of the companies don't like that and they chose 485 for
: their own interests. The companies are blood suckers and laywers only work
: for companies.
:
: 便。
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