谁来解读一下今天新发布的H4信息# EB23 - 劳工卡
q*t
1 楼
a*r
2 楼
看着像是11月要出台取消H4 EAD的Rule初稿，让公众提意见和建议。因为要等至少60天
之后，才能出台Final Rule。估计在2019年初，才有可能正式取消H4 EAD。有需要申请
H4 EAD和延期的，要抓紧时间想办法了。
201810
【在 q*t 的大作中提到】
: 似乎说下个月就要取消h4 ead？
: https://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAgendaViewRule?RIN=1615-AC15&pubId=201810
之后，才能出台Final Rule。估计在2019年初，才有可能正式取消H4 EAD。有需要申请
H4 EAD和延期的，要抓紧时间想办法了。
201810
【在 q*t 的大作中提到】
: 似乎说下个月就要取消h4 ead？
: https://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAgendaViewRule?RIN=1615-AC15&pubId=201810
t*f
3 楼
请问你的意思是现在有的可以接着用到过期？ 我看华人上讨论说一旦通过，所有立刻
停止。听起来太吓人了，我的明年九月过期，本来想着到那个时候485肯定交了，现在
觉得有点危险。
【在 a****r 的大作中提到】
: 看着像是11月要出台取消H4 EAD的Rule初稿，让公众提意见和建议。因为要等至少60天
: 之后，才能出台Final Rule。估计在2019年初，才有可能正式取消H4 EAD。有需要申请
: H4 EAD和延期的，要抓紧时间想办法了。
:
: 201810
停止。听起来太吓人了，我的明年九月过期，本来想着到那个时候485肯定交了，现在
觉得有点危险。
【在 a****r 的大作中提到】
: 看着像是11月要出台取消H4 EAD的Rule初稿，让公众提意见和建议。因为要等至少60天
: 之后，才能出台Final Rule。估计在2019年初，才有可能正式取消H4 EAD。有需要申请
: H4 EAD和延期的，要抓紧时间想办法了。
:
: 201810
v*2
4 楼
一般来说现有的EAD都是可以用到过期的。除非这个法案有什么特别说明。
【在 t**f 的大作中提到】
: 请问你的意思是现在有的可以接着用到过期？ 我看华人上讨论说一旦通过，所有立刻
: 停止。听起来太吓人了，我的明年九月过期，本来想着到那个时候485肯定交了，现在
: 觉得有点危险。
【在 t**f 的大作中提到】
: 请问你的意思是现在有的可以接着用到过期？ 我看华人上讨论说一旦通过，所有立刻
: 停止。听起来太吓人了，我的明年九月过期，本来想着到那个时候485肯定交了，现在
: 觉得有点危险。
k*u
5 楼
前段时间参加单位（学校）邀请来的律所做报告，说的是很有可能是已有的用到过期，
但是final rule出来之前谁也不知道。
但是final rule出来之前谁也不知道。
n*l
6 楼
DHS anticipates that there would be two primary impacts that DHS can
estimate and quantify: the cost-savings accruing to forgone future filings
by certain H-4 dependent spouses, and labor turnover costs that employers of
H-4 workers could incur when their employees’ EADs are terminated. Some U.
S. workers would benefit from this proposed rule by having a better chance
at obtaining jobs that some of the population of the H-4 workers currently
hold, as the proposed rule would no longer allow H-4 workers to enter the
labor market early.
原文里提到了terminated，而不是expired。貌似有可能直接终止？
【在 a****r 的大作中提到】
: 看着像是11月要出台取消H4 EAD的Rule初稿，让公众提意见和建议。因为要等至少60天
: 之后，才能出台Final Rule。估计在2019年初，才有可能正式取消H4 EAD。有需要申请
: H4 EAD和延期的，要抓紧时间想办法了。
:
: 201810
estimate and quantify: the cost-savings accruing to forgone future filings
by certain H-4 dependent spouses, and labor turnover costs that employers of
H-4 workers could incur when their employees’ EADs are terminated. Some U.
S. workers would benefit from this proposed rule by having a better chance
at obtaining jobs that some of the population of the H-4 workers currently
hold, as the proposed rule would no longer allow H-4 workers to enter the
labor market early.
原文里提到了terminated，而不是expired。貌似有可能直接终止？
【在 a****r 的大作中提到】
: 看着像是11月要出台取消H4 EAD的Rule初稿，让公众提意见和建议。因为要等至少60天
: 之后，才能出台Final Rule。估计在2019年初，才有可能正式取消H4 EAD。有需要申请
: H4 EAD和延期的，要抓紧时间想办法了。
:
: 201810
l*l
7 楼
这两天看到有说，不会全面取消，但会限制可以申请h4 ead条件。
a*t
8 楼
这个请问在哪里看到的？
: 这两天看到有说，不会全面取消，但会限制可以申请h4 ead条件。
【在 l**********l 的大作中提到】
: 这两天看到有说，不会全面取消，但会限制可以申请h4 ead条件。
: 这两天看到有说，不会全面取消，但会限制可以申请h4 ead条件。
【在 l**********l 的大作中提到】
: 这两天看到有说，不会全面取消，但会限制可以申请h4 ead条件。
l*l
9 楼
https://insights.dice.com/2018/10/02/work-ban-h-4-visa-holders-arrive-3-
months/
In a Sept. 21 court filing, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)
clarified that timeline, pending final clearances and approvals by officials
from DHS, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), and the White
House Office of Management and Budget (OMB). “DHS is making solid and swift
progress in proposing to remove from its regulations certain H-4 spouses of
H-1B nonimmigrants as a class of aliens eligible for employment
authorization,” the filing reads; in theory, the timeline may extend
further if OMB needs additional time to review.
说的是certain h-4 spouses, 意思就是不是一棒子全部打死？
【在 a**********t 的大作中提到】
: 这个请问在哪里看到的？
:
:
: 这两天看到有说，不会全面取消，但会限制可以申请h4 ead条件。
:
months/
In a Sept. 21 court filing, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)
clarified that timeline, pending final clearances and approvals by officials
from DHS, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), and the White
House Office of Management and Budget (OMB). “DHS is making solid and swift
progress in proposing to remove from its regulations certain H-4 spouses of
H-1B nonimmigrants as a class of aliens eligible for employment
authorization,” the filing reads; in theory, the timeline may extend
further if OMB needs additional time to review.
说的是certain h-4 spouses, 意思就是不是一棒子全部打死？
【在 a**********t 的大作中提到】
: 这个请问在哪里看到的？
:
:
: 这两天看到有说，不会全面取消，但会限制可以申请h4 ead条件。
:
S*k
10 楼
我约莫着和DACA一样吧，新的不接了，旧的直接用到过期。
要不是怎么着 USCIS还一个一个退申请费？把那些有H4EAD正在工作的人从大公司马上
layoff摘出来？这有点惨无人道吧。
要不是怎么着 USCIS还一个一个退申请费？把那些有H4EAD正在工作的人从大公司马上
layoff摘出来？这有点惨无人道吧。
S*k
11 楼
我约莫着和DACA一样吧，新的不接了，旧的直接用到过期。
要不是怎么着 USCIS还一个一个退申请费？把那些有H4EAD正在工作的人从大公司马上
layoff摘出来？这有点惨无人道吧。
要不是怎么着 USCIS还一个一个退申请费？把那些有H4EAD正在工作的人从大公司马上
layoff摘出来？这有点惨无人道吧。
c*d
12 楼
这个“certain”字眼嘛，本来就不是所有的H4 spouse可以申请EAD的。需要H1B另一半
的140 approve了才行。
The H4 visa based EAD is available only to spouses of H-1 visa holders who
fall into one of following two categories:
H-1B spouse must be the beneficiary of an approved I-140, petition for
immigrant worker. ...
H-1B spouse must have extended H1B status beyond the initial 6 years under
AC-21 rule in one year increments.
【在 l**********l 的大作中提到】
: https://insights.dice.com/2018/10/02/work-ban-h-4-visa-holders-arrive-3-
: months/
: In a Sept. 21 court filing, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)
: clarified that timeline, pending final clearances and approvals by officials
: from DHS, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), and the White
: House Office of Management and Budget (OMB). “DHS is making solid and swift
: progress in proposing to remove from its regulations certain H-4 spouses of
: H-1B nonimmigrants as a class of aliens eligible for employment
: authorization,” the filing reads; in theory, the timeline may extend
: further if OMB needs additional time to review.
的140 approve了才行。
The H4 visa based EAD is available only to spouses of H-1 visa holders who
fall into one of following two categories:
H-1B spouse must be the beneficiary of an approved I-140, petition for
immigrant worker. ...
H-1B spouse must have extended H1B status beyond the initial 6 years under
AC-21 rule in one year increments.
【在 l**********l 的大作中提到】
: https://insights.dice.com/2018/10/02/work-ban-h-4-visa-holders-arrive-3-
: months/
: In a Sept. 21 court filing, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)
: clarified that timeline, pending final clearances and approvals by officials
: from DHS, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), and the White
: House Office of Management and Budget (OMB). “DHS is making solid and swift
: progress in proposing to remove from its regulations certain H-4 spouses of
: H-1B nonimmigrants as a class of aliens eligible for employment
: authorization,” the filing reads; in theory, the timeline may extend
: further if OMB needs additional time to review.
a*r
13 楼
My understanding:
Not all H-4s are eligible for H-4 EAD. The "certain H-4 spouses" refer to
H-1B with an approved 140, which cover all current H-4 EAD holders.
officials
White
swift
of
【在 l**********l 的大作中提到】
: https://insights.dice.com/2018/10/02/work-ban-h-4-visa-holders-arrive-3-
: months/
: In a Sept. 21 court filing, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)
: clarified that timeline, pending final clearances and approvals by officials
: from DHS, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), and the White
: House Office of Management and Budget (OMB). “DHS is making solid and swift
: progress in proposing to remove from its regulations certain H-4 spouses of
: H-1B nonimmigrants as a class of aliens eligible for employment
: authorization,” the filing reads; in theory, the timeline may extend
: further if OMB needs additional time to review.
Not all H-4s are eligible for H-4 EAD. The "certain H-4 spouses" refer to
H-1B with an approved 140, which cover all current H-4 EAD holders.
officials
White
swift
of
【在 l**********l 的大作中提到】
: https://insights.dice.com/2018/10/02/work-ban-h-4-visa-holders-arrive-3-
: months/
: In a Sept. 21 court filing, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)
: clarified that timeline, pending final clearances and approvals by officials
: from DHS, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), and the White
: House Office of Management and Budget (OMB). “DHS is making solid and swift
: progress in proposing to remove from its regulations certain H-4 spouses of
: H-1B nonimmigrants as a class of aliens eligible for employment
: authorization,” the filing reads; in theory, the timeline may extend
: further if OMB needs additional time to review.
s*f
14 楼
title写的很明确了: "Removing H-4 Dependent Spouses from the Class of Aliens
Eligible for Employment Authorization"
就是把
H4排除出去
Eligible for Employment Authorization"
就是把
H4排除出去
a*r
15 楼
USCIS will get tons of lawsuits if they revoke all approved H-4 EADs. I don'
t believe USCIS will do it.
【在 t**f 的大作中提到】
: 请问你的意思是现在有的可以接着用到过期？ 我看华人上讨论说一旦通过，所有立刻
: 停止。听起来太吓人了，我的明年九月过期，本来想着到那个时候485肯定交了，现在
: 觉得有点危险。
t believe USCIS will do it.
【在 t**f 的大作中提到】
: 请问你的意思是现在有的可以接着用到过期？ 我看华人上讨论说一旦通过，所有立刻
: 停止。听起来太吓人了，我的明年九月过期，本来想着到那个时候485肯定交了，现在
: 觉得有点危险。
w*4
16 楼
不能再申请新的应该是最有可能的，立即废除所有已经发出去的可能性很小
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