请问微电的phd，方向device fabrication，毕业都什么出路？# EE - 电子工程
r*5
1 楼
燕落柳梢
后庭碧草
夏月春桃
看尽落英
翩飞斜里入凤巢
霞光晚照
对酒请知客
都道闲情太少
雨后青石道
苔绿还复沾衣帽
独自醉倒
琵琶小调
婉指娥眉笑
忘却一生骄傲
哪堪寂寥
只想温柔缠绕
后庭碧草
夏月春桃
看尽落英
翩飞斜里入凤巢
霞光晚照
对酒请知客
都道闲情太少
雨后青石道
苔绿还复沾衣帽
独自醉倒
琵琶小调
婉指娥眉笑
忘却一生骄傲
哪堪寂寥
只想温柔缠绕
G*O
2 楼
【 以下文字转载自 shopping 讨论区 】
发信人: GTO (欧叔), 信区: shopping
标 题: 请大家推荐一个装在xp home上的remote desktop server软件吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Mar 21 00:15:07 2009), 站内
谢谢！
发信人: GTO (欧叔), 信区: shopping
标 题: 请大家推荐一个装在xp home上的remote desktop server软件吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Mar 21 00:15:07 2009), 站内
谢谢！
o*l
3 楼
IN windows 7, if I get the process id,
how to figure out who start the process?
Thanks!
how to figure out who start the process?
Thanks!
y*u
4 楼
可能非常弱的问题，但是我就是不知道为啥啊。
我需要运行一个m file,每次需要输入一些参数，用了一些input句子。一般是运行得好
好的。但有的时候在command window输入参数并回车后，它就不往下执行了，就看到光
标在那闪啊闪的，这个时候无论我按回车，按ctl+C，甚至按右上角的X想将matlab整个
关闭，都没反应。只能用任务管理器来关。然后重启matlab。这到底是为啥啊？而且这
个问题好像跟input也没有关系，我在程序最后是画一张图出来，有时是运行到画图那
一步之前就停顿了，还是光标闪啊闪，然后不proceed，没反应了。我因为需要重复run
这个程序，结果run几次吧就出现一次这个问题，到底是什么原因呢？
update: 应该是跟excel有关的问题，我在这两个地方分别用到了xlswrite和xlsread。
我需要运行一个m file,每次需要输入一些参数，用了一些input句子。一般是运行得好
好的。但有的时候在command window输入参数并回车后，它就不往下执行了，就看到光
标在那闪啊闪的，这个时候无论我按回车，按ctl+C，甚至按右上角的X想将matlab整个
关闭，都没反应。只能用任务管理器来关。然后重启matlab。这到底是为啥啊？而且这
个问题好像跟input也没有关系，我在程序最后是画一张图出来，有时是运行到画图那
一步之前就停顿了，还是光标闪啊闪，然后不proceed，没反应了。我因为需要重复run
这个程序，结果run几次吧就出现一次这个问题，到底是什么原因呢？
update: 应该是跟excel有关的问题，我在这两个地方分别用到了xlswrite和xlsread。
z*c
5 楼
Academics Without Academia
by Gary North
by Gary North
DIGG THIS
From time to time, I get a letter from some aspiring academic who wants to
know whether he should go on to a Ph.D. in economics. He wants to know where
he can get a Ph.D. in Austrian economics.
Occasionally, he wants to know if an MBA would be better than a Ph.D. in
economics.
While my degree is in American history, with my concentration in colonial
America, I rarely receive an inquiry about whether a Ph.D. in history would
be wise, nor does anyone ask me which specialty or which university.
I have a stock reply to these inquiries.
Why do you want a Ph.D?
What are your career plans?
Is a Ph.D. required for this career?
Why do you think the post-1968 Ph.D. glut is over?
What college wants to hire an Austrian School economist?
Why do you think a college will be looking in 3 years?
Why won't it hire an Ivy League Ph.D.? Or a Chicago grad?
Do you plan to work for a tax-funded school?
If so, why?
There are a series of mistakes in the minds of most would-be Ph.D. students.
The main one is some version of the labor theory of value. They assume that
if they work hard enough, and jump through enough academic hoops, some
college will hire them.
They do not begin as entrepreneurs. They do not ask the key question: "What
is the likely state of the market in three or four years for holders of a Ph
.D. in the field that I want to earn mine in?" Why not? Because they do not
see economic value as something imputed by buyers of the services supplied
by holders of a Ph.D. They see consumer demand as somehow generated by the
work it takes to earn a Ph.D.
Someone interested in free market economics should understand this. Someone
interested in Austrian School economics should see it, for Austrian
economics focuses, above all, on two concepts: (1) subjective economic value
as imputed by consumers; (2) the entrepreneur as the person who deals with
present uncertainty about the future condition of a market.
MOTIVATION
Forty years ago, I was sitting in an evening seminar for graduate students.
The teacher — I forget who — asked a question: "Why do you want to get a
Ph.D.?" I don't recall what I said. I do recall what Gordon Geddes said: "I
like to read. If I can get hired as a professor, I will get paid to read."
That made sense.
Gordon earned his Ph.D. He did not wind up as a professor. His wife, who
holds an M.A. in English, got hired at a community college. She did get paid
to read books and grade papers. Finally, they retired. Now they both get
paid to read: pensions. Sometimes our plans take more time to execute than
we think.
The primary goal of every career should be to help members of a targeted
market to improve their lifestyles. For non-charitable careers, this means
that the people must be persuaded to pay for services rendered.
If you like to read books, as I do, find a service that will enable you to
transform book-reading into income. This will force you to read certain
kinds of books, but for confirmed readers, this is not a major liability.
So, your motivation should be service, but service governed by two limiting
factors: doing something you like to do at a price you are willing to accept
. There is usually a trade-off between these two. Maybe for Michael Jordan
there was no trade-off, but now he is too old to do what he did before. He
suffered a loss, though perhaps not a financial loss, given his success as a
businessman.
SCHOLARSHIP
You don't need a Ph.D. to be a scholar. You need one to be hired by a
university that will pay you. But the odds against getting hired full-time
by a university are high. This has been true since 1969 in most fields.
If you are a good writer, you can write your way into any field. You may not
be able to get published in peer-reviewed journals, but if you make a
breakthrough, you can get your story to interested people through the Web.
The gatekeepers now guard gates for which the walls no longer are
impenetrable.
If you discover something unique, post your findings on-line. Establish the
date of publication this way. Your academic competitors must wait until
their peer-reviewed papers get through a committee and into print. This is
fine for government-funded grants and tenure-track career strategies, but
who cares? This is for papers that will not be read, implemented, or
footnoted. A major breakthrough will be cited and implemented.
The only peer review that counts in the world of scholarship is peer
implementation and acceptance, not some committee's acceptance of an article
that never gets read. Peer-reviewed articles count for academia. They do
not count for academics.
Marx never got hired by a university. Neither did Freud. They changed the
world.
Milton Friedman got famous because of Capitalism and Freedom and Free to
Choose, especially the PBS TV series. Neither book would have counted for
tenure. He established his professional reputation with a co-authored book,
A Monetary History of the United States (1963). His co-author, Anna J.
Schwartz, joined the staff of the National Bureau of Economic Research in
1941. She got paid to read. That helped, but it was her work, not her
employer, that made her famous.
If you are not good enough to write your way to money and influence, then a
Ph.D. will only provide a high-risk hunting license for a lifetime job in a
no-name college, where you will be paid to teach bored students who will not
recall your name 40 years later. Or even 20 years later. Or maybe next
semester.
Think of Ben Stein's teacher in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. "Anyone? Anyone?"
That is your future.
THE MBA
The MBA, academically, is useless. Unless you attend one of the top half
dozen schools, it will not pay off. This is the dirty little secret of the
business schools.
The pay-off for the Big Six is the Rolodex factor. The schools are Harvard,
Chicago, Stanford, MIT, Kellogg (Northwestern), and Wharton (U of
Pennsylvania). You meet people who are on fast tracks. One of them may be
able to help you land a good entry-level job.
After these schools, you are on your own. With well over 100,000 MBA's, the
market is glutted.
If your employer will pay for it, fine. But why should he? You may quit
because some other employer thinks your MBA means something.
If you have a degree in a non-business field, such as chemical engineering,
then an MBA might look attractive. It might mean that you can talk to
engineers and managers. But top MBA programs, other than Harvard's, are so
heavily theoretical and mathematical, that chemical engineers do not have to
learn to communicate with businessmen.
The MBA suffers from the same problem that all professional schools do. The
degree is awarded by academics, not by people who have competed successfully
in a competitive free market. The universities screen in terms of writing
unreadable papers, not making a profit. Rodney Dangerfield got it right in
Back to School.
CONCLUSION
If you want to get paid to read, academia is for you. If you want to get
paid to communicate ideas, find buyers who are paying. Then find out what
they are paying for. Then specialize here. But you must learn marketing.
Remember the words of the late Mac Ross: "If you build a better mousetrap
and don't have a marketing program, you will die alone and broke with a
garage full of mousetraps."
by Gary North
by Gary North
DIGG THIS
From time to time, I get a letter from some aspiring academic who wants to
know whether he should go on to a Ph.D. in economics. He wants to know where
he can get a Ph.D. in Austrian economics.
Occasionally, he wants to know if an MBA would be better than a Ph.D. in
economics.
While my degree is in American history, with my concentration in colonial
America, I rarely receive an inquiry about whether a Ph.D. in history would
be wise, nor does anyone ask me which specialty or which university.
I have a stock reply to these inquiries.
Why do you want a Ph.D?
What are your career plans?
Is a Ph.D. required for this career?
Why do you think the post-1968 Ph.D. glut is over?
What college wants to hire an Austrian School economist?
Why do you think a college will be looking in 3 years?
Why won't it hire an Ivy League Ph.D.? Or a Chicago grad?
Do you plan to work for a tax-funded school?
If so, why?
There are a series of mistakes in the minds of most would-be Ph.D. students.
The main one is some version of the labor theory of value. They assume that
if they work hard enough, and jump through enough academic hoops, some
college will hire them.
They do not begin as entrepreneurs. They do not ask the key question: "What
is the likely state of the market in three or four years for holders of a Ph
.D. in the field that I want to earn mine in?" Why not? Because they do not
see economic value as something imputed by buyers of the services supplied
by holders of a Ph.D. They see consumer demand as somehow generated by the
work it takes to earn a Ph.D.
Someone interested in free market economics should understand this. Someone
interested in Austrian School economics should see it, for Austrian
economics focuses, above all, on two concepts: (1) subjective economic value
as imputed by consumers; (2) the entrepreneur as the person who deals with
present uncertainty about the future condition of a market.
MOTIVATION
Forty years ago, I was sitting in an evening seminar for graduate students.
The teacher — I forget who — asked a question: "Why do you want to get a
Ph.D.?" I don't recall what I said. I do recall what Gordon Geddes said: "I
like to read. If I can get hired as a professor, I will get paid to read."
That made sense.
Gordon earned his Ph.D. He did not wind up as a professor. His wife, who
holds an M.A. in English, got hired at a community college. She did get paid
to read books and grade papers. Finally, they retired. Now they both get
paid to read: pensions. Sometimes our plans take more time to execute than
we think.
The primary goal of every career should be to help members of a targeted
market to improve their lifestyles. For non-charitable careers, this means
that the people must be persuaded to pay for services rendered.
If you like to read books, as I do, find a service that will enable you to
transform book-reading into income. This will force you to read certain
kinds of books, but for confirmed readers, this is not a major liability.
So, your motivation should be service, but service governed by two limiting
factors: doing something you like to do at a price you are willing to accept
. There is usually a trade-off between these two. Maybe for Michael Jordan
there was no trade-off, but now he is too old to do what he did before. He
suffered a loss, though perhaps not a financial loss, given his success as a
businessman.
SCHOLARSHIP
You don't need a Ph.D. to be a scholar. You need one to be hired by a
university that will pay you. But the odds against getting hired full-time
by a university are high. This has been true since 1969 in most fields.
If you are a good writer, you can write your way into any field. You may not
be able to get published in peer-reviewed journals, but if you make a
breakthrough, you can get your story to interested people through the Web.
The gatekeepers now guard gates for which the walls no longer are
impenetrable.
If you discover something unique, post your findings on-line. Establish the
date of publication this way. Your academic competitors must wait until
their peer-reviewed papers get through a committee and into print. This is
fine for government-funded grants and tenure-track career strategies, but
who cares? This is for papers that will not be read, implemented, or
footnoted. A major breakthrough will be cited and implemented.
The only peer review that counts in the world of scholarship is peer
implementation and acceptance, not some committee's acceptance of an article
that never gets read. Peer-reviewed articles count for academia. They do
not count for academics.
Marx never got hired by a university. Neither did Freud. They changed the
world.
Milton Friedman got famous because of Capitalism and Freedom and Free to
Choose, especially the PBS TV series. Neither book would have counted for
tenure. He established his professional reputation with a co-authored book,
A Monetary History of the United States (1963). His co-author, Anna J.
Schwartz, joined the staff of the National Bureau of Economic Research in
1941. She got paid to read. That helped, but it was her work, not her
employer, that made her famous.
If you are not good enough to write your way to money and influence, then a
Ph.D. will only provide a high-risk hunting license for a lifetime job in a
no-name college, where you will be paid to teach bored students who will not
recall your name 40 years later. Or even 20 years later. Or maybe next
semester.
Think of Ben Stein's teacher in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. "Anyone? Anyone?"
That is your future.
THE MBA
The MBA, academically, is useless. Unless you attend one of the top half
dozen schools, it will not pay off. This is the dirty little secret of the
business schools.
The pay-off for the Big Six is the Rolodex factor. The schools are Harvard,
Chicago, Stanford, MIT, Kellogg (Northwestern), and Wharton (U of
Pennsylvania). You meet people who are on fast tracks. One of them may be
able to help you land a good entry-level job.
After these schools, you are on your own. With well over 100,000 MBA's, the
market is glutted.
If your employer will pay for it, fine. But why should he? You may quit
because some other employer thinks your MBA means something.
If you have a degree in a non-business field, such as chemical engineering,
then an MBA might look attractive. It might mean that you can talk to
engineers and managers. But top MBA programs, other than Harvard's, are so
heavily theoretical and mathematical, that chemical engineers do not have to
learn to communicate with businessmen.
The MBA suffers from the same problem that all professional schools do. The
degree is awarded by academics, not by people who have competed successfully
in a competitive free market. The universities screen in terms of writing
unreadable papers, not making a profit. Rodney Dangerfield got it right in
Back to School.
CONCLUSION
If you want to get paid to read, academia is for you. If you want to get
paid to communicate ideas, find buyers who are paying. Then find out what
they are paying for. Then specialize here. But you must learn marketing.
Remember the words of the late Mac Ross: "If you build a better mousetrap
and don't have a marketing program, you will die alone and broke with a
garage full of mousetraps."
a*u
6 楼
看版上以前的一些帖子，貌似在美国工作不好找。不知在国内或者新加坡好找工作不？
不太明白这个方向毕业出来一般都做什么工作？
国内本科物理，现在刚开始在新加坡读device的master，有点感觉从一个坑到了另外一
个坑。
女友目前在北美phd，在这呆着不爽死了，肯定要适当时候最好是尽快搞到北美去，目
前比较合适的申请也就是计算凝聚态物理和ee的device方向，或者自费去读点master项
目。不知大家对device这个方向怎么看，如果都是坑的话，我宁愿往physics里扎，好
歹编程计算比clean room里舒服。
恳请给点意见，谢谢。
不太明白这个方向毕业出来一般都做什么工作？
国内本科物理，现在刚开始在新加坡读device的master，有点感觉从一个坑到了另外一
个坑。
女友目前在北美phd，在这呆着不爽死了，肯定要适当时候最好是尽快搞到北美去，目
前比较合适的申请也就是计算凝聚态物理和ee的device方向，或者自费去读点master项
目。不知大家对device这个方向怎么看，如果都是坑的话，我宁愿往physics里扎，好
歹编程计算比clean room里舒服。
恳请给点意见，谢谢。
N*D
7 楼
vnc
v*r
8 楼
sc queryex
【在 o*****l 的大作中提到】
: IN windows 7, if I get the process id,
: how to figure out who start the process?
: Thanks!
【在 o*****l 的大作中提到】
: IN windows 7, if I get the process id,
: how to figure out who start the process?
: Thanks!
k*g
9 楼
run
If you have MATLAB support, try open a support request.
If you are employed (paid) by a research center, and the problem arises from
work performed for your employer. The research center may have technical
staff (苦B学生) to help troubleshoot these issues.
Otherwise, you'll have to troubleshoot the same way a programmer does.
(Steps for narrowing down the problem in the MATLAB code)
Set a breakpoint in the MATLAB program, and step through it line by line.
Repeat as many times as needed, and notice any recurring pattern of the
failure.
(Steps for Windows troubleshooting)
(1) Download Process Explorer from http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx
This is a more powerful type of task manager.
(2) Click on the MATLAB process and see which threads are running or stuck.
(3) From the thread, get a stack trace.
(4) If you have MATLAB support, open a request and provide the MATLAB source
code, the data, and the process stack trace.
Alternatively, if you know how to get a memory dump from it, that's another
way to troubleshoot a nonresponsive program.
【在 y****u 的大作中提到】
: 可能非常弱的问题，但是我就是不知道为啥啊。
: 我需要运行一个m file,每次需要输入一些参数，用了一些input句子。一般是运行得好
: 好的。但有的时候在command window输入参数并回车后，它就不往下执行了，就看到光
: 标在那闪啊闪的，这个时候无论我按回车，按ctl+C，甚至按右上角的X想将matlab整个
: 关闭，都没反应。只能用任务管理器来关。然后重启matlab。这到底是为啥啊？而且这
: 个问题好像跟input也没有关系，我在程序最后是画一张图出来，有时是运行到画图那
: 一步之前就停顿了，还是光标闪啊闪，然后不proceed，没反应了。我因为需要重复run
: 这个程序，结果run几次吧就出现一次这个问题，到底是什么原因呢？
: update: 应该是跟excel有关的问题，我在这两个地方分别用到了xlswrite和xlsread。
H*l
10 楼
还是读物理把
等你毕业的时候，美国还有没有fab都是问题，赫赫
现在开始劝退device physics/fabrication方向把。。。。
【在 a*******u 的大作中提到】
: 看版上以前的一些帖子，貌似在美国工作不好找。不知在国内或者新加坡好找工作不？
: 不太明白这个方向毕业出来一般都做什么工作？
: 国内本科物理，现在刚开始在新加坡读device的master，有点感觉从一个坑到了另外一
: 个坑。
: 女友目前在北美phd，在这呆着不爽死了，肯定要适当时候最好是尽快搞到北美去，目
: 前比较合适的申请也就是计算凝聚态物理和ee的device方向，或者自费去读点master项
: 目。不知大家对device这个方向怎么看，如果都是坑的话，我宁愿往physics里扎，好
: 歹编程计算比clean room里舒服。
: 恳请给点意见，谢谢。
等你毕业的时候，美国还有没有fab都是问题，赫赫
现在开始劝退device physics/fabrication方向把。。。。
【在 a*******u 的大作中提到】
: 看版上以前的一些帖子，貌似在美国工作不好找。不知在国内或者新加坡好找工作不？
: 不太明白这个方向毕业出来一般都做什么工作？
: 国内本科物理，现在刚开始在新加坡读device的master，有点感觉从一个坑到了另外一
: 个坑。
: 女友目前在北美phd，在这呆着不爽死了，肯定要适当时候最好是尽快搞到北美去，目
: 前比较合适的申请也就是计算凝聚态物理和ee的device方向，或者自费去读点master项
: 目。不知大家对device这个方向怎么看，如果都是坑的话，我宁愿往physics里扎，好
: 歹编程计算比clean room里舒服。
: 恳请给点意见，谢谢。
G*O
11 楼
free的嘛？谢谢
【在 N**D 的大作中提到】
: vnc
【在 N**D 的大作中提到】
: vnc
k*g
12 楼
run
If you have MATLAB support, try open a support request.
If you are employed (paid) by a research center, and the problem arises from
work performed for your employer. The research center may have technical
staff (苦B学生) to help troubleshoot these issues.
Otherwise, you'll have to troubleshoot the same way a programmer does.
(Steps for narrowing down the problem in the MATLAB code)
Set a breakpoint in the MATLAB program, and step through it line by line.
Repeat as many times as needed, and notice any recurring pattern of the
failure.
(Steps for Windows troubleshooting)
(1) Download Process Explorer from http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx
This is a more powerful type of task manager.
(2) Click on the MATLAB process and see which threads are running or stuck.
(3) From the thread, get a stack trace.
(4) If you have MATLAB support, open a request and provide the MATLAB source
code, the data, and the process stack trace.
Alternatively, if you know how to get a memory dump from it, that's another
way to troubleshoot a nonresponsive program.
【在 y****u 的大作中提到】
: 可能非常弱的问题，但是我就是不知道为啥啊。
: 我需要运行一个m file,每次需要输入一些参数，用了一些input句子。一般是运行得好
: 好的。但有的时候在command window输入参数并回车后，它就不往下执行了，就看到光
: 标在那闪啊闪的，这个时候无论我按回车，按ctl+C，甚至按右上角的X想将matlab整个
: 关闭，都没反应。只能用任务管理器来关。然后重启matlab。这到底是为啥啊？而且这
: 个问题好像跟input也没有关系，我在程序最后是画一张图出来，有时是运行到画图那
: 一步之前就停顿了，还是光标闪啊闪，然后不proceed，没反应了。我因为需要重复run
: 这个程序，结果run几次吧就出现一次这个问题，到底是什么原因呢？
: update: 应该是跟excel有关的问题，我在这两个地方分别用到了xlswrite和xlsread。
g*y
13 楼
为啥做fab未来这么惨？就目前看来，实验凝聚态phd做做device什么的，最起码找
industry工作没啥问题啊？难道金融危机美国不搞器件研发不搞技术革新了，那岂不是
死的更快更惨。
industry工作没啥问题啊？难道金融危机美国不搞器件研发不搞技术革新了，那岂不是
死的更快更惨。
N*D
14 楼
.try this:
http://www.realvnc.com/products/download.html
【在 G*O 的大作中提到】
: free的嘛？谢谢
http://www.realvnc.com/products/download.html
【在 G*O 的大作中提到】
: free的嘛？谢谢
c*l
15 楼
搞研究，但是fab本身都去亚洲了
【在 g*******y 的大作中提到】
: 为啥做fab未来这么惨？就目前看来，实验凝聚态phd做做device什么的，最起码找
: industry工作没啥问题啊？难道金融危机美国不搞器件研发不搞技术革新了，那岂不是
: 死的更快更惨。
【在 g*******y 的大作中提到】
: 为啥做fab未来这么惨？就目前看来，实验凝聚态phd做做device什么的，最起码找
: industry工作没啥问题啊？难道金融危机美国不搞器件研发不搞技术革新了，那岂不是
: 死的更快更惨。
G*O
16 楼
多谢NYPD大侠，很神奇。
很好用，就是传输的速度比remote desktop差些。
【在 N**D 的大作中提到】
: .try this:
: http://www.realvnc.com/products/download.html
很好用，就是传输的速度比remote desktop差些。
【在 N**D 的大作中提到】
: .try this:
: http://www.realvnc.com/products/download.html
j*n
17 楼
为什么fab要去亚洲？就为了省几个人工钱？但是亚洲有几个国家能自产半导体工艺设
备（不算日本哦）？要是把fab都迁往新马台，还要辗转从欧美进口半导体工艺设备，
日常维护、零配件都还要从欧美进口，岂不花费更大？再说，亚洲现在的人工成本也一
直看涨。我不同意美国的半导体行业会完全fabless化，毕竟process是核心技术。
【在 c*******l 的大作中提到】
: 搞研究，但是fab本身都去亚洲了
备（不算日本哦）？要是把fab都迁往新马台，还要辗转从欧美进口半导体工艺设备，
日常维护、零配件都还要从欧美进口，岂不花费更大？再说，亚洲现在的人工成本也一
直看涨。我不同意美国的半导体行业会完全fabless化，毕竟process是核心技术。
【在 c*******l 的大作中提到】
: 搞研究，但是fab本身都去亚洲了
r*y
18 楼
teamviewer最好
【在 G*O 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 shopping 讨论区 】
: 发信人: GTO (欧叔), 信区: shopping
: 标 题: 请大家推荐一个装在xp home上的remote desktop server软件吧
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Mar 21 00:15:07 2009), 站内
: 谢谢！
【在 G*O 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 shopping 讨论区 】
: 发信人: GTO (欧叔), 信区: shopping
: 标 题: 请大家推荐一个装在xp home上的remote desktop server软件吧
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Mar 21 00:15:07 2009), 站内
: 谢谢！
x*y
19 楼
No matter you agree with it or not, it's happenin...
【在 j****n 的大作中提到】
: 为什么fab要去亚洲？就为了省几个人工钱？但是亚洲有几个国家能自产半导体工艺设
: 备（不算日本哦）？要是把fab都迁往新马台，还要辗转从欧美进口半导体工艺设备，
: 日常维护、零配件都还要从欧美进口，岂不花费更大？再说，亚洲现在的人工成本也一
: 直看涨。我不同意美国的半导体行业会完全fabless化，毕竟process是核心技术。
g*n
20 楼
我也刚要推荐这个，而且都不用安装。
【在 r****y 的大作中提到】
: teamviewer最好
【在 r****y 的大作中提到】
: teamviewer最好
H*l
21 楼
哥们，你在TOP10干啥都没关系
xerox PARC,IBM T.J.Waston，JPL,Army research lab，boeing spectrolab总是要人
的。。。
咱搓，咱退了。。。。
这本不是一个要争吵的问题，个人的看法和选择了
很多人，比如我，没那个智商作科研，退了对我们来说，未必不是一条好路
【在 j****n 的大作中提到】
: 为什么fab要去亚洲？就为了省几个人工钱？但是亚洲有几个国家能自产半导体工艺设
: 备（不算日本哦）？要是把fab都迁往新马台，还要辗转从欧美进口半导体工艺设备，
: 日常维护、零配件都还要从欧美进口，岂不花费更大？再说，亚洲现在的人工成本也一
: 直看涨。我不同意美国的半导体行业会完全fabless化，毕竟process是核心技术。
xerox PARC,IBM T.J.Waston，JPL,Army research lab，boeing spectrolab总是要人
的。。。
咱搓，咱退了。。。。
这本不是一个要争吵的问题，个人的看法和选择了
很多人，比如我，没那个智商作科研，退了对我们来说，未必不是一条好路
【在 j****n 的大作中提到】
: 为什么fab要去亚洲？就为了省几个人工钱？但是亚洲有几个国家能自产半导体工艺设
: 备（不算日本哦）？要是把fab都迁往新马台，还要辗转从欧美进口半导体工艺设备，
: 日常维护、零配件都还要从欧美进口，岂不花费更大？再说，亚洲现在的人工成本也一
: 直看涨。我不同意美国的半导体行业会完全fabless化，毕竟process是核心技术。
r*y
22 楼
PC版的teamviewer还不错，但是我发现mac版的teamviewer有不少问题：
第一，会出现session id和password正确但是连不上的情况（即使不使用UDP端口）
第二，多次尝试会导致远端teamviewer出错退出，然后没法再试
【在 g****n 的大作中提到】
: 我也刚要推荐这个，而且都不用安装。
第一，会出现session id和password正确但是连不上的情况（即使不使用UDP端口）
第二，多次尝试会导致远端teamviewer出错退出，然后没法再试
【在 g****n 的大作中提到】
: 我也刚要推荐这个，而且都不用安装。
p*f
23 楼
张忠谋说过，以后就三个公司有fab, Intel, TSMC 和 Samsung,呵呵。 这周AMD把
fab spin off了。
【在 j****n 的大作中提到】
: 为什么fab要去亚洲？就为了省几个人工钱？但是亚洲有几个国家能自产半导体工艺设
: 备（不算日本哦）？要是把fab都迁往新马台，还要辗转从欧美进口半导体工艺设备，
: 日常维护、零配件都还要从欧美进口，岂不花费更大？再说，亚洲现在的人工成本也一
: 直看涨。我不同意美国的半导体行业会完全fabless化，毕竟process是核心技术。
fab spin off了。
【在 j****n 的大作中提到】
: 为什么fab要去亚洲？就为了省几个人工钱？但是亚洲有几个国家能自产半导体工艺设
: 备（不算日本哦）？要是把fab都迁往新马台，还要辗转从欧美进口半导体工艺设备，
: 日常维护、零配件都还要从欧美进口，岂不花费更大？再说，亚洲现在的人工成本也一
: 直看涨。我不同意美国的半导体行业会完全fabless化，毕竟process是核心技术。
M*y
24 楼
AMD已经分了吗？
【在 p****f 的大作中提到】
: 张忠谋说过，以后就三个公司有fab, Intel, TSMC 和 Samsung,呵呵。 这周AMD把
: fab spin off了。
【在 p****f 的大作中提到】
: 张忠谋说过，以后就三个公司有fab, Intel, TSMC 和 Samsung,呵呵。 这周AMD把
: fab spin off了。
c*l
25 楼
y
【在 M***y 的大作中提到】
: AMD已经分了吗？
【在 M***y 的大作中提到】
: AMD已经分了吗？
e*n
26 楼
难道现在的
AMD
成了
软件公司?
【在 M***y 的大作中提到】
: AMD已经分了吗？
AMD
成了
软件公司?
【在 M***y 的大作中提到】
: AMD已经分了吗？
a*i
27 楼
no, I heard AMD separate FAB from research dept
【在 e*******n 的大作中提到】
: 难道现在的
: AMD
: 成了
: 软件公司?
【在 e*******n 的大作中提到】
: 难道现在的
: AMD
: 成了
: 软件公司?
t*o
28 楼
Yep. The new fabrication-oriented company is The Foundry Company, and its
website is New Global Foundry.
【在 a*******i 的大作中提到】
: no, I heard AMD separate FAB from research dept
website is New Global Foundry.
【在 a*******i 的大作中提到】
: no, I heard AMD separate FAB from research dept
z*a
29 楼
那做device是不是需要citizenship 和 Green Card？
z*a
30 楼
那做device是不是需要citizenship 和 Green Card？
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