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d*n
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孕期见红的血是什么颜色,内裤上有一点点的浅黄色,不知道是不是血?
谢谢大家。
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l*n
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看到有人问,写写看法。
谈DRYS,就必须要提到它的两块业务,和最近的事件
1,Dry bulk shipping市场不容乐观,2011年新船下海会是已有船只的23.3%,2012年
是17.7%,这对BDI压力很大,需求上虽然中国进口也在增加但是远没有供应方增加的快
。这块大概2年内都不会有太大起色。
2,Drilling 这是DRYS最近两年唯一的看点,最近该签的合同都签了,只有2011年9月
下海的Mykonos还没有合同,签合同问题应该不大,但是消息出来应该还有段日子(个
人猜测在4月份左右,根据是以往签合同与新船Deliever的时间差,同时Drilling市场
比较乐观)。这块最近2-3个月应该不会有更好的消息出来了。所以,股价向上的空间
不大。
3, 最近的事件就是指向Tanker转型啦。
弊大于利,因为Tanker虽然没有干货shipping那么紧张,但是也处于供应上升期,船只
数量粗算下来未来两年增加24%(这点是我以前没有看到的)。先不说Tanker和
Drilling是否存在Synergy,单从供求来看不理想。
此外就是负债了,买12个tankers的除了drilling constract来的钱以外,还差不少,
另外drilling shipsdelivery的也要交不少钱,这些钱怎么来,说是靠贷款,但是Drys
有At the market offering的历史,他们很有可能悄悄地增发,稀释当前股东的权益。
另外,大盘一直在上升,对Drys股价的压力也比较大----这也是我去年底以来的观点,
我也是在去年底卖掉了手上大多数drys。个人感觉,如果drys不下降到一个非常便宜的
价格,我是不会再入手的。
目前我手上还有5%左右的Drys。
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h*y
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: hellowhy (夹死do it), 信区: Military
标 题: 杨澜大姐背Marc Jacobs包中弹了,上NPR新闻头条了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Mar 13 15:28:13 2012, 美东)
Beijing Bling: Wealth On Display In China's Congress
http://tinyurl.com/7pd4qy6
March 13, 2012
A leather belt from Hermes priced at almost $1,000 — nearly a year's salary
for the average Chinese farmer. A bright pink, $2,000 trouser suit from
Emilio Pucci. A red snakeskin Celine handbag that costs $4,500.
These weren't items at a fashion show, but luxury goods spotted on delegates
hurrying to China's annual legislative assembly sessions.
Li Xiaolin, daughter of former Chinese Premier Li Peng, attends the opening
ceremony of the CPPCC in Beijing, March 3, 2012. Her suit — by Italian
designer Emilio Pucci — is estimated to cost $2,000.
Liao Pan/ColorChinaPhoto/AP
Li Xiaolin, daughter of former Chinese Premier Li Peng, attends the opening
ceremony of the CPPCC in Beijing, March 3, 2012. Her suit — by Italian
designer Emilio Pucci — is estimated to cost $2,000.
The casual toting of such exorbitantly expensive clothing and accessories
illustrates China's ever-widening wealth gap. And it also underpins claims
that the country's legislative body — more or less a rubber stamp for
government policy — is becoming a "rich man's club."
"When I first saw so many delegates wearing luxury items, my first response
is to wonder whether they could come up with proposals concerning the bitter
lives of ordinary people," says a 23-year-old photo editor, who asked that
her name not be disclosed. The photo editor was the first to collate and
post the photos online, but said she wasn't making a statement against rich
people, she was simply raising her concerns regarding corruption.
"China doesn't really have a transparent and just system of supervision,
such as publicizing officials' wealth," she says. "The most obvious and
effective way of doing this is seeing what they're wearing, especially
luxury items which are not necessities."
There was public outrage at "Beijing Fashion Week," as netizens
sarcastically called the annual meeting of the legislative assembly. It
prompted an order from the Communist Party's Central Propaganda Department
not to hype the "gourmet food," clothing or accessories of the deputies.
But the truth is the National People's Congress, or NPC, includes some of
China's richest people. This is partly because being a legislator or
government adviser is only a part-time commitment, so many also hold high-
paying jobs. It also stems from the decision 10 years ago by Communist Party
Secretary-general Jiang Zemin to allow capitalists into the party.
Delegate and Hong Kong cosmetics entrepreneur Cheng Ming Ming carries a
Louis Vuitton Alma handbag and wears a fur coat in Beijing, on March 3. Her
bag is said to be worth $2,500.
Qian Xiaodun/Imaginechina/AP
Delegate and Hong Kong cosmetics entrepreneur Cheng Ming Ming carries a
Louis Vuitton Alma handbag and wears a fur coat in Beijing, on March 3. Her
bag is said to be worth $2,500.
Wealth Concentrated In Few Hands
Rupert Hoogewerf, publisher of the Hurun list of the 1,000 richest Chinese,
says a recent report by his group showed that the top 70 NPC delegates are
probably richer than the entire U.S. Congress. This, he says, is "rather
ironic considering China is a developing country and the U.S. is the most
developed country in the world."
In fact, the wealthiest 70 delegates are worth $89 billion. According to
Bloomberg News, that's 11 times the net worth of the entire U.S. Congress,
plus the U.S. president, his Cabinet and justices of the Supreme Court.
"It's very much a chicken-and-egg scenario: is it because they're rich that
they become powerful? Or is that they're powerful that they become rich?"
asks Hoogewerf. "The general consensus is that it tends to be that they've
been successful individuals in their business world, and therefore they've
been co-opted into the top political advisory boards."
Hoogewerf's research found that 152 of the richest 1,000 Chinese held a seat
on one of these top advisory bodies, with their wealth amounting to 44
percent of the total wealth of everyone on the rich list. And the wealthier
the person, the more likely they are to hold political office.
All this adds to the criticism that the NPC has become a club for the
wealthy. It's criticism that Cao Zhaoyang, an NPC delegate and chairman of
the board at Aeolus, a company that makes car tires, denies.
"My company has 3,000 workers, and I have dealings with them every day, so I
need to know what they're thinking. I also need to know what the bosses
think, and what the state thinks," Cao says. "So we, as a class, have our
advantages. But it's an exaggeration to call it a rich man's club."
But others, even those who are wealthy, disagree.
"Most of those who attend the meetings are either wealthy or powerful,"
property tycoon Ren Zhiqiang wrote on his microblog. "They are defending
vested interests; the rest are toadies. There are only a few outspoken
deputies, who are there to perform a show for the media and public."
Delegates wear the traditional garb of their ethnic minority — the Burberry
bag at left (estimated cost: $800) notwithstanding — in Beijing on March 3.
Enlarge David Gray/Reuters /Landov
Delegates wear the traditional garb of their ethnic minority — the Burberry
bag at left (estimated cost: $800) notwithstanding — in Beijing on March 3.
Few Rich Representing The Vast Poor
How the changing composition of the bodies affects debate is clear; four
years ago, China's second-richest woman, Zhang Yin, who was then a deputy to
the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC) advisory
body, proposed three "pro-rich" amendments to the law, including reducing
personal income tax for the super-rich.
There are questions whether wealthy deputies would vote against their own
interests, when it comes to issues like a property tax or a law forcing
officials to disclose their own assets.
However, overshadowing the NPC's wealth is its sister body, the CPPCC, which
has just finished its annual session. According to Hurun, it is even
wealthier than the NPC, with the richest 70 members owning assets averaging
$1.5 billion each. Their wealth has increased by 14 percent in the past year
, driven up by skyrocketing land prices and company stock offerings.
Huang Shaoliang is a real estate tycoon, the 797th richest person in China
and a CPPCC deputy. He believes that rich people could be good for the
advisory body.
"I don't think it's true that the body doesn't represent disadvantaged
groups. It's the opposite. It's more representative," he says. "We dare to
speak more and speak the truth."
But netizens don't agree, writing a satirical song that mocks the powerful
and wealthy delegates for "singing happy songs" and suggesting proposals
that don't go anywhere.
For all the power and wealth co-opted into China's congresses, it's a common
belief they're simply rubber stamps for government policy. As the song's
lyrics have it, the wealthy delegates "sing songs of praise and lie about
the future."
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r*f
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血要么鲜红,要么凝固成褐色。
浅黄色怎么可能啊

【在 d******n 的大作中提到】
: 孕期见红的血是什么颜色,内裤上有一点点的浅黄色,不知道是不是血?
: 谢谢大家。

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g*4
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ding
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p*2
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salary
delegates
She lied,
说自己不是美国籍,从来没有拿过绿卡。。。
后来又出来承认说虽是美国籍,但出身在中国!
对她的以前诸多美好印象轰然倒塌
貌似买买提上对这件事没什么讨论,国内倒是闹翻了!

【在 h******y 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
: 发信人: hellowhy (夹死do it), 信区: Military
: 标 题: 杨澜大姐背Marc Jacobs包中弹了,上NPR新闻头条了
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Mar 13 15:28:13 2012, 美东)
: Beijing Bling: Wealth On Display In China's Congress
: http://tinyurl.com/7pd4qy6
: March 13, 2012
: A leather belt from Hermes priced at almost $1,000 — nearly a year's salary
: for the average Chinese farmer. A bright pink, $2,000 trouser suit from
: Emilio Pucci. A red snakeskin Celine handbag that costs $4,500.

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n*a
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It is normal! No problem!

【在 d******n 的大作中提到】
: 孕期见红的血是什么颜色,内裤上有一点点的浅黄色,不知道是不是血?
: 谢谢大家。

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g*4
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现在drys真便宜。可入。你认为呢?
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f*r
9
我们普通工作的人都买得起,人家都代表了为什么不用。而且那个国家的代表是代表穷
人的?
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d*n
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问题是我也搞不清是不是血。。。。。。
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l*n
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这两天的价钱还不错,不过我还没有买,我上面辛苦码字列的那几条,还没有改变啊。
大盘不回调到一个相对便宜的价位,我暂时都不会买个股,因为我的Holding Period比
较长,不做swing trade。所以即便同是4.7,对你来说便宜,对我却不一定,因为你回
头5.2就卖了,然后等便宜了再买,我会一直等到合理的价位再入手。
另外,还有很多便宜的股票可以选择,不必在一棵树上吊死。

【在 g********4 的大作中提到】
: 现在drys真便宜。可入。你认为呢?
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S*P
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她的外套颜色配这个包挺好的
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d*n
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有点像褐色,很少很少,不知道是不是血, 需要去见医生么?
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r*w
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就是做长线吗

【在 l***n 的大作中提到】
: 这两天的价钱还不错,不过我还没有买,我上面辛苦码字列的那几条,还没有改变啊。
: 大盘不回调到一个相对便宜的价位,我暂时都不会买个股,因为我的Holding Period比
: 较长,不做swing trade。所以即便同是4.7,对你来说便宜,对我却不一定,因为你回
: 头5.2就卖了,然后等便宜了再买,我会一直等到合理的价位再入手。
: 另外,还有很多便宜的股票可以选择,不必在一棵树上吊死。

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m*m
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不就是个包吗真是的。。。。
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m*t
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bleeding是鲜红的,和月经一样。spotting是褐色的。浅黄色应该没事儿。

【在 d******n 的大作中提到】
: 孕期见红的血是什么颜色,内裤上有一点点的浅黄色,不知道是不是血?
: 谢谢大家。

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l*n
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对呀,不过我做长线的技巧不好,拿到的价位总是偏高一些。

【在 r******w 的大作中提到】
: 就是做长线吗
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t*e
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杨澜背这个包没什么大不了的吧。。。
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q*i
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如果这个颜色是怀孕前没有看到过的, 并且是怀孕后第一次见到的,跟以前的颜色不
同,那就紧密检测。
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g*4
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drys可以做长线吗?
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g*e
21
虽然赞同文中说的,但是美国的议员们不也一样是富人阶层?
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h*2
22
你是多少周了? 如果是怀孕初期,可能正常。
不过,如果担心,还是卧床休息一天。我刚开始的时候也见过有点黄,有点褐色的。分
不出来是不是
血。周末在家躺了两天,就好了。

【在 d******n 的大作中提到】
: 孕期见红的血是什么颜色,内裤上有一点点的浅黄色,不知道是不是血?
: 谢谢大家。

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h*n
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DRYS 大概是这次大调整中发行股票最多的公司了。
还有任何一个dilute超过DRYS的公司吗?

【在 g********4 的大作中提到】
: drys可以做长线吗?
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l*s
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哪一位是劳动人民的代表?
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c*e
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我也是先是有点黄,然后变褐,或变红。卧床休息休息就好。
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t*g
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感谢! 感谢 lucan (采菊东篱者);
感谢hatwin (傻就一个字).
收藏!
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l*s
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EN
卖菜大妈的包都是LV

【在 f*******r 的大作中提到】
: 我们普通工作的人都买得起,人家都代表了为什么不用。而且那个国家的代表是代表穷
: 人的?

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p*e
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should be OK.
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g*4
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陆灿系很好的人呐!
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o*y
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杨澜足够能背这个包了吧
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L*3
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老陆做长线为啥不分批买呢?4.7应该是一个相对低点了,俺进了支小分队,再低再上
支支队。
所谓合理的价位都是相对的,要结合大盘,个股基本面和近期股价区间看。
老陆还有啥便宜的好股推荐?

【在 l***n 的大作中提到】
: 这两天的价钱还不错,不过我还没有买,我上面辛苦码字列的那几条,还没有改变啊。
: 大盘不回调到一个相对便宜的价位,我暂时都不会买个股,因为我的Holding Period比
: 较长,不做swing trade。所以即便同是4.7,对你来说便宜,对我却不一定,因为你回
: 头5.2就卖了,然后等便宜了再买,我会一直等到合理的价位再入手。
: 另外,还有很多便宜的股票可以选择,不必在一棵树上吊死。

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B*l
32
是要大家都穿以纯和gap么
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l*n
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我手里已经有一些Drys了,去年底没有卖掉的。不过trading是我的弱项,所以谨慎点
没坏处。我在看一些TA的indicator,似乎Drys还没有到超卖的地步。
你说的对,合理价位是相对的。我看大盘还是偏高,最近所谓的调整都是小打小闹的样
子。所以我没有信心让大部队前进。
至于好股推荐么,我不推荐股票,因为每个人的risk/reward都不一样,所以你看有人
抱着AAPL, CAT就很高兴了,而有些人在玩LDK,MY这样的股票。投资的策略和投资者的
性格,需求,长项都是有关系的。
今天NOK跌了个3%就有人开始骂人,哇,我当时手里那个WNR, LVS,上上下下10%,一
天啊,我要是当时推荐了WNR,还不被人抄家了,嘿嘿。
不过既然兄台问起,我也不可以当作没听到,我在观察的几个股票:
Sector Turnaround Bet
PRGN, DRYS:唯一的突破点就是亚洲对Commodity的需求复苏,并且澳洲的洪水问题处
理好。
Company Turnaround Bet
S, AMD, EK: 都各自有非常明显的问题,Sprint流失客户,没有苹果的产品,4G网络的
竞争加剧,AMD管理层动荡,EK传统FEPG缩水,margin下降(受银价影响),还有CDG(
数码相机)受到Sony, Canon的挤压,转型困扰中。
Sector Bet
C,KEY,ETFC:金融应该不会有跳水,但是yield curve也不会有太多upward调整,所以
短期也不期望太高的收益,不过长期来看是挺好的投资。
AMR,DAL:这两个公司没有太多地参与到去年航空版块的rally,我个人觉得主要是
pension压力比较大,个人更喜欢DAL,因为labor union在其公司的影响力不是很大,
有利于降低人工成本(航空有和人工是航空业最大的两个成本)。
MY:我对renewable energy里的风能比较看好,因为风能的成本偏低,在Obama大力推
行新能源的政策下,很多Utility公司更愿意买相对便宜的新能源。不过我不知道MY有
多少客户在美国,所以还在研究中。另外如果Feed in tariff通过了议会,那么Solar
就有一波了,业界人士告诉我未来几年的事情了,不会是最近。
HRB:价位还算合适,而且我觉得RAL的减少对HRB的核心业务影响没有那么大,价值低
估了。
GT:我对轮胎市场开始感兴趣了。
总体来看,都是在猜,在赌,兄台要是有兴趣也可以赌上一手。

【在 L*****3 的大作中提到】
: 老陆做长线为啥不分批买呢?4.7应该是一个相对低点了,俺进了支小分队,再低再上
: 支支队。
: 所谓合理的价位都是相对的,要结合大盘,个股基本面和近期股价区间看。
: 老陆还有啥便宜的好股推荐?

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L*e
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原以为杨澜为避嫌故意挑了个不太起眼的包来背呢~
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r*m
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nice, mark, mark!

【在 l***n 的大作中提到】
: 我手里已经有一些Drys了,去年底没有卖掉的。不过trading是我的弱项,所以谨慎点
: 没坏处。我在看一些TA的indicator,似乎Drys还没有到超卖的地步。
: 你说的对,合理价位是相对的。我看大盘还是偏高,最近所谓的调整都是小打小闹的样
: 子。所以我没有信心让大部队前进。
: 至于好股推荐么,我不推荐股票,因为每个人的risk/reward都不一样,所以你看有人
: 抱着AAPL, CAT就很高兴了,而有些人在玩LDK,MY这样的股票。投资的策略和投资者的
: 性格,需求,长项都是有关系的。
: 今天NOK跌了个3%就有人开始骂人,哇,我当时手里那个WNR, LVS,上上下下10%,一
: 天啊,我要是当时推荐了WNR,还不被人抄家了,嘿嘿。
: 不过既然兄台问起,我也不可以当作没听到,我在观察的几个股票:

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b*l
36
我感觉她背这个包算是很低调了,她想背比这个贵10,20倍的包也背得起啊。
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r*m
37
by the way, I am accumulating stocks in the shipping sector now, including
PRGN, GNK, BALT and DRYS. I feel this is close to low point for the sector,
a perfect storm after the Korean company went belly up.
For alternative energy, the solar/wind story is far from over, though the
road could be bumpy. I am looking at STP, JASO ann APWR. For a no-brainer
play, just buy TAN on any deep dip.
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b*n
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她做媒体的,背这个包包很合情理啊~~
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L*3
39
陆兄高见,俺今后还要多多讨教!

【在 l***n 的大作中提到】
: 我手里已经有一些Drys了,去年底没有卖掉的。不过trading是我的弱项,所以谨慎点
: 没坏处。我在看一些TA的indicator,似乎Drys还没有到超卖的地步。
: 你说的对,合理价位是相对的。我看大盘还是偏高,最近所谓的调整都是小打小闹的样
: 子。所以我没有信心让大部队前进。
: 至于好股推荐么,我不推荐股票,因为每个人的risk/reward都不一样,所以你看有人
: 抱着AAPL, CAT就很高兴了,而有些人在玩LDK,MY这样的股票。投资的策略和投资者的
: 性格,需求,长项都是有关系的。
: 今天NOK跌了个3%就有人开始骂人,哇,我当时手里那个WNR, LVS,上上下下10%,一
: 天啊,我要是当时推荐了WNR,还不被人抄家了,嘿嘿。
: 不过既然兄台问起,我也不可以当作没听到,我在观察的几个股票:

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m*2
40
人家是中国的奥普拉,就算送现场观众人手一个也送的起。米帝也跟着起什么仇富的哄
啊,真是。
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g*4
41
难道还要下一腿?昨天在4.90处加仓drys有误,把子弹打光了。
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l*n
42
帮主可真是high risk tolerance,敢问一下帮主的turnover是多少,一个季度有多少
个trade
我在dry bulk sector上还在犹豫,主要价格上还是不能让我下决心,比如PRGN,当前
的Dividend yield要是到了8%,我会更有动力买进,因为我觉得这只股票今年真是不会
有什么作为,明后年也许会不错。
至于太阳能,哇,浮动可是真够厉害的,赶上LVS了,我搞不清楚他们怎么赚钱,而且
个人觉得市场的进入屏障不是很高,LDK的老板以前就是一个倒买倒卖的,结果借了点
钱就开始做太阳能板,多晶片了,而且中国货以便宜著称。于是我觉得如果这个行业真
得很赚钱,那么别人想做也不难。一些公司可以从供应链开始延伸,从下游向上游,或
者反之。另外人民币汇率上调,他们的价格在国际市场上也会降低竞争性。更重要的是
,就我所知,美国新能源市场,太阳能的价格太高了,和风能比起来。任重而道远啊,
我就不掺和了。

,

【在 r*m 的大作中提到】
: by the way, I am accumulating stocks in the shipping sector now, including
: PRGN, GNK, BALT and DRYS. I feel this is close to low point for the sector,
: a perfect storm after the Korean company went belly up.
: For alternative energy, the solar/wind story is far from over, though the
: road could be bumpy. I am looking at STP, JASO ann APWR. For a no-brainer
: play, just buy TAN on any deep dip.

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l*n
43
我不是很清楚Drys发行了多少股票,不过我知道他们做了ATM offering,可以看看
Price to book ratio就可以比较客观地看看equity稀释的情况,目前是0.5X, 我觉得
问题倒不是很大。
稀释股权的确是比较让人沮丧的事情,但是重要的是看他们发行新股来的钱怎么花了,
入股长期来看提升equity value还是好的。
DRYS处于一个转型期,需要钱啊,虽然很多分析师对其管理层这方面的能力不是很看好
,但是我觉得如果能挺过这一段bumpy road,未来是不错的。我近期的concern是目前
管理层要如何finance tanker business,而且tanker ships最近供应量增加的也挺多
,真希望Drys可以悠着点来啊。

【在 h****n 的大作中提到】
: DRYS 大概是这次大调整中发行股票最多的公司了。
: 还有任何一个dilute超过DRYS的公司吗?

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l*n
44
不敢,我不是说了,都在猜么,做了多少分析,到最后都是在赌大小。
但是不做分析的话,最后自己在赌了啥都不知道。
所以我一般在赌场也就玩玩slots, craps和black jack,知道自己在玩啥,其他的搞
不懂,就不玩啦,呵呵。

【在 L*****3 的大作中提到】
: 陆兄高见,俺今后还要多多讨教!
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s*u
45
good post.

【在 l***n 的大作中提到】
: 看到有人问,写写看法。
: 谈DRYS,就必须要提到它的两块业务,和最近的事件
: 1,Dry bulk shipping市场不容乐观,2011年新船下海会是已有船只的23.3%,2012年
: 是17.7%,这对BDI压力很大,需求上虽然中国进口也在增加但是远没有供应方增加的快
: 。这块大概2年内都不会有太大起色。
: 2,Drilling 这是DRYS最近两年唯一的看点,最近该签的合同都签了,只有2011年9月
: 下海的Mykonos还没有合同,签合同问题应该不大,但是消息出来应该还有段日子(个
: 人猜测在4月份左右,根据是以往签合同与新船Deliever的时间差,同时Drilling市场
: 比较乐观)。这块最近2-3个月应该不会有更好的消息出来了。所以,股价向上的空间
: 不大。

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w*1
46
赞呀,这线里的帖子真好。

Drys

【在 l***n 的大作中提到】
: 看到有人问,写写看法。
: 谈DRYS,就必须要提到它的两块业务,和最近的事件
: 1,Dry bulk shipping市场不容乐观,2011年新船下海会是已有船只的23.3%,2012年
: 是17.7%,这对BDI压力很大,需求上虽然中国进口也在增加但是远没有供应方增加的快
: 。这块大概2年内都不会有太大起色。
: 2,Drilling 这是DRYS最近两年唯一的看点,最近该签的合同都签了,只有2011年9月
: 下海的Mykonos还没有合同,签合同问题应该不大,但是消息出来应该还有段日子(个
: 人猜测在4月份左右,根据是以往签合同与新船Deliever的时间差,同时Drilling市场
: 比较乐观)。这块最近2-3个月应该不会有更好的消息出来了。所以,股价向上的空间
: 不大。

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k*n
47
股版真是卧虎藏龙呀,哈哈哈~
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k*n
48
青蛙蝌蚪们,多关注关注本贴,不总是说没癖渴没癖渴吗?这下癖渴不就来了,哈哈哈
~
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l*n
49
谢谢版主支持,收到好多好多包子,呵呵,发财了的感觉。
不过我不是在提供picks,只是提供一些思考的角度,赌大小罢了。各位别把我捧上去
,然后在棒杀,小弟刚刚出走江湖,如履薄冰。

【在 k*******n 的大作中提到】
: 青蛙蝌蚪们,多关注关注本贴,不总是说没癖渴没癖渴吗?这下癖渴不就来了,哈哈哈
: ~

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r*m
50
To Lucan:
I usually use small positions to bet on high risk (high beta) stocks. The
shipping sector is the one I am most heavily loaded right now. My turn over
on this sector is actually pretty low recently. The reason is ironical: it
keeps going down without any decent pop. I buy low, buy lower, but so far no
opportunity to sell high. I have the gut to get into this loser sector
because:
1. I don't see a significant chance that any of the ship owner companies
going bankrupt any time soon. Many of them have long term contracts to cover
a large portion of the available shipping days.
2. Most of them are cash flow positive
3. PRGN, SBLK etc have 6% or high dividend
4. DRYS has UDW rig part that is worth sth.
5. GNK is a well run company with PE around 3
6. BDI is at rock bottom, the current shipping rate is not sustainable.
7. We just had the perfect storm: over supply of new builds, worry about
China tightening and slow down, flood down-under, and that Korean company in
receivership.
8. Last but not least: I made some money from shipping sector before, I hope
my luck could go on.

【在 l***n 的大作中提到】
: 帮主可真是high risk tolerance,敢问一下帮主的turnover是多少,一个季度有多少
: 个trade
: 我在dry bulk sector上还在犹豫,主要价格上还是不能让我下决心,比如PRGN,当前
: 的Dividend yield要是到了8%,我会更有动力买进,因为我觉得这只股票今年真是不会
: 有什么作为,明后年也许会不错。
: 至于太阳能,哇,浮动可是真够厉害的,赶上LVS了,我搞不清楚他们怎么赚钱,而且
: 个人觉得市场的进入屏障不是很高,LDK的老板以前就是一个倒买倒卖的,结果借了点
: 钱就开始做太阳能板,多晶片了,而且中国货以便宜著称。于是我觉得如果这个行业真
: 得很赚钱,那么别人想做也不难。一些公司可以从供应链开始延伸,从下游向上游,或
: 者反之。另外人民币汇率上调,他们的价格在国际市场上也会降低竞争性。更重要的是

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k*n
51
过谦了过谦了~

【在 l***n 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢版主支持,收到好多好多包子,呵呵,发财了的感觉。
: 不过我不是在提供picks,只是提供一些思考的角度,赌大小罢了。各位别把我捧上去
: ,然后在棒杀,小弟刚刚出走江湖,如履薄冰。

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l*n
52
All are very good points to start positions in dry bulk.
I changed my impression after reading your post though. I may have higher
risk tolerance than you do. I don't diversify my portfolio and usually I
only have several holdings. My turnover is very low and I am a follower of
buy-and-hold style. Not that I believe this style can make more profits, but
I have constraints from my employer and other aspects of my life.
Good post. I enjoy it.

over
it
no
cover

【在 r*m 的大作中提到】
: To Lucan:
: I usually use small positions to bet on high risk (high beta) stocks. The
: shipping sector is the one I am most heavily loaded right now. My turn over
: on this sector is actually pretty low recently. The reason is ironical: it
: keeps going down without any decent pop. I buy low, buy lower, but so far no
: opportunity to sell high. I have the gut to get into this loser sector
: because:
: 1. I don't see a significant chance that any of the ship owner companies
: going bankrupt any time soon. Many of them have long term contracts to cover
: a large portion of the available shipping days.

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t*g
53
青蛙拜谢 lucan大牛 与 rim帮主。
请多关照!
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r*m
54
today is pretty cool.
the market is down big, but DRYS and PRGN wake up, despite the still falling
BDI.
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g*4
55
走在上班的路上我在想是否买买提把drys给提起来的这个问题。说不定是因为这个帖子
哦!
发信人: rim (可乐会捂帮帮主), 信区: Stock
标 题: Re: 关于DRYS
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jan 28 11:42:13 2011, 美东)
today is pretty cool.
the market is down big, but DRYS and PRGN wake up, despite the still falling
BDI.
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g*p
56
One reason for today's up in shipping sector is the fear for potential
disruption of traffic through the Suez due to the events in Egypt.
I like shipping, too, but would only do quick trading until things become
more clear in China.

falling

【在 r*m 的大作中提到】
: today is pretty cool.
: the market is down big, but DRYS and PRGN wake up, despite the still falling
: BDI.

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g*p
57
What's happening in Egypt may very well spread across the middle-east.
Therefore I think crude will go up in the short term.

【在 g**p 的大作中提到】
: One reason for today's up in shipping sector is the fear for potential
: disruption of traffic through the Suez due to the events in Egypt.
: I like shipping, too, but would only do quick trading until things become
: more clear in China.
:
: falling

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c*1
58
good post

【在 l***n 的大作中提到】
: 看到有人问,写写看法。
: 谈DRYS,就必须要提到它的两块业务,和最近的事件
: 1,Dry bulk shipping市场不容乐观,2011年新船下海会是已有船只的23.3%,2012年
: 是17.7%,这对BDI压力很大,需求上虽然中国进口也在增加但是远没有供应方增加的快
: 。这块大概2年内都不会有太大起色。
: 2,Drilling 这是DRYS最近两年唯一的看点,最近该签的合同都签了,只有2011年9月
: 下海的Mykonos还没有合同,签合同问题应该不大,但是消息出来应该还有段日子(个
: 人猜测在4月份左右,根据是以往签合同与新船Deliever的时间差,同时Drilling市场
: 比较乐观)。这块最近2-3个月应该不会有更好的消息出来了。所以,股价向上的空间
: 不大。

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