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485 RFE, 中间有gap怎么办？

485 RFE, 中间有gap怎么办？# Immigration - 落地生根

N*g2011-08-09 07:08

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c*y2011-08-09 07:08

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我LP是主申请人，绿卡刚批下来，我的485被RFE了，要求提供6年前一段时间的status.
当时我opt5月到期，我拖到11月才转F-2。现在要当时5月到第二年4月的status. 这个
有没有什么好的办法啊？先谢了

f*e2011-08-09 07:08

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are you in USA when your OPT expired before you transfer to F2?

c*y2011-08-09 07:08

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yes, I was in the US since my graduation.

f*e2011-08-09 07:08

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That is difficult, why you did not leave USA or apply F2 status change
before your OPT expire? I know, if you illegally stay in USA for some days,
I forget the number, your 485 will be denied. Not sure your case. You should
provide evidence to convince IO that you are legally staying in USA.

c*y2011-08-09 07:08

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当时没想到要出境，因为听说OPT还有grace period time,而且大约在9月底初交的申请
...

f*e2011-08-09 07:08

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then, what you need to do is to present your F2 application receipt in
September. And the F-1 OPT I-20 form which shows the 60 days grace period.
But, you stay illegally too long time, your F1 expire May, it took you 4
months to submit F2 application, I can only say you are too crazy.

c*y2011-08-09 07:08

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actually I can't remember the exact days now. I need to go back to check
some receipts. My opt expired May 31 that year. I submitted my application
for status change from F-1 to F-2 about Sept. 2 or 3 and it was approved in
Oct. I remember the grace period was three months.
Between May and Sept. I also submitted H1B application and got denied.
Anyway, thanks for your answers.

f*e2011-08-09 07:08

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then, find all receipts that you submitted for H1B, F2 which shows you had
applied, since you could stay legally if you submit these applications.
These receipts are important to support you. good luck

d*i2011-08-09 07:08

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那交上所有的申请收据，包括H1B的。

P*y2011-08-09 07:08

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opt的grace period是2个月
你要不问问律师吧

status.

【在 c****y 的大作中提到】

: 我LP是主申请人，绿卡刚批下来，我的485被RFE了，要求提供6年前一段时间的status.
: 当时我opt5月到期，我拖到11月才转F-2。现在要当时5月到第二年4月的status. 这个
: 有没有什么好的办法啊？先谢了

n*e2011-08-09 07:08

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From May 31, you have the grace period to cover status 2/3 month.
Then,you had legally status between your H1B application and deny.
Did you submit F1-F2 application before you get H1B deny? If yes, no gap.
you should be fine.

in

【在 c****y 的大作中提到】

: actually I can't remember the exact days now. I need to go back to check
: some receipts. My opt expired May 31 that year. I submitted my application
: for status change from F-1 to F-2 about Sept. 2 or 3 and it was approved in
: Oct. I remember the grace period was three months.
: Between May and Sept. I also submitted H1B application and got denied.
: Anyway, thanks for your answers.

w*m2011-08-09 07:08

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Seems if <=180 days, you will be fine. But must file a form to waive
More than 180 days, u are in trouble
If u go out of US and get another visa back, the above 2 cases are fine

status.

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w*m2011-08-09 07:08

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Seems grace period does not mean u r legal if u still stay in US
grace period is the time u can pack your stuff and leave US

【在 n********e 的大作中提到】

: From May 31, you have the grace period to cover status 2/3 month.
: Then,you had legally status between your H1B application and deny.
: Did you submit F1-F2 application before you get H1B deny? If yes, no gap.
: you should be fine.
:
: in

j*42011-08-09 07:08

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Did you leave US and apply a visa re-enter US after that period? If yes, you
are fine and just respond with a letter citing items from section 245(k).
if no, I would suggest you to find a good lawyer first and bring all your I-
797 receipts, approval/denial notices to see him/her. Good luck!

status.

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w*m2011-08-09 07:08

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you misunderstood 245(k). if "left US and applied a visa re-enter US after
that period", no need to file 245(k).
if didn't left US and applied a visa re-enter US, and <= 180 days, need to
file 245(k).
if didn't left US and applied a visa re-enter US, and > 180 days, have to
leave US, otherwise may be rejected.
"A foreign national who makes use of Section 245(k) normally has violated
the terms of their status for 180 days or less from the time of their last
lawful admission."

you

I-

【在 j******4 的大作中提到】

: Did you leave US and apply a visa re-enter US after that period? If yes, you
: are fine and just respond with a letter citing items from section 245(k).
: if no, I would suggest you to find a good lawyer first and bring all your I-
: 797 receipts, approval/denial notices to see him/her. Good luck!
:
: status.

j*42011-08-09 07:08

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According to 245(k), illegal stay only counts for the period after LZ last
lawful admission into US. Some IO may overlook the time of the applicant's
last entry, and my post was just to reminder LZ about this.
Anyway, I don't think there are any other regulations other than 245(k) can
help with such a case.

【在 w*********m 的大作中提到】

: you misunderstood 245(k). if "left US and applied a visa re-enter US after
: that period", no need to file 245(k).
: if didn't left US and applied a visa re-enter US, and <= 180 days, need to
: file 245(k).
: if didn't left US and applied a visa re-enter US, and > 180 days, have to
: leave US, otherwise may be rejected.
: "A foreign national who makes use of Section 245(k) normally has violated
: the terms of their status for 180 days or less from the time of their last
: lawful admission."
:

c*y2011-08-09 07:08

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你们搞的太专业了，什么245k，从来没有听说过啊

k*r2011-08-09 07:08

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245K只能COVER你最后入境后的out of status180天. out of status包括身份失效和非
法打工. 从你写的来说, 你确实OOS超过180天了.
看来这个IO是盯上你了, 也许律师可以帮你...(虽然我觉得这个也很难).
如果在交485前,出境一次再取得签证回美, 基本就可以把你以前的OOS洗白了.
现在只有看你运气了, Bless !

status.

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c*y2011-08-09 07:08

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被你吓死了，我准备明天早上把这几个文件发给律师算了。。。

【在 k*******r 的大作中提到】

: 245K只能COVER你最后入境后的out of status180天. out of status包括身份失效和非
: 法打工. 从你写的来说, 你确实OOS超过180天了.
: 看来这个IO是盯上你了, 也许律师可以帮你...(虽然我觉得这个也很难).
: 如果在交485前,出境一次再取得签证回美, 基本就可以把你以前的OOS洗白了.
: 现在只有看你运气了, Bless !
:
: status.

c*y2011-08-09 07:08

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大哥，你这个180天怎么算的？难道我中间的H1B时间算out of status?

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l*y2011-08-09 07:08

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bless~
其实，在转身份期间应该是可以合法呆在美国的
只不过你之前的合法身份过期了一两天。。
没事，别怕，跟律师谈一下吧

【在 c****y 的大作中提到】

:
: 大哥，你这个180天怎么算的？难道我中间的H1B时间算out of status?

k*r2011-08-09 07:08

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你的CASE比较复杂啦. 一般说来H1B pending是算合法停留时间的,但是H1B被拒了, 我
个人的看法(不一定正确啦)是算OUT OF STATUS的.

【在 c****y 的大作中提到】

:
: 大哥，你这个180天怎么算的？难道我中间的H1B时间算out of status?

c*y2011-08-09 07:08

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但是我H1B悲剧之前，F2已经开始申请了阿，难道这个不算？

【在 k*******r 的大作中提到】

: 你的CASE比较复杂啦. 一般说来H1B pending是算合法停留时间的,但是H1B被拒了, 我
: 个人的看法(不一定正确啦)是算OUT OF STATUS的.

k*r2011-08-09 07:08

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我说过了, 你的CASE太复杂了.
算与不算, 你得找出条款来. 你申请H1B已经在OPT GRACE PERIOD之后了.我也搞不清你的OOS如何来算.
我同意了, IO不同意也不行呀.
其实老印论坛里面的复杂case还要多.
take it seriously.

【在 c****y 的大作中提到】

:
: 但是我H1B悲剧之前，F2已经开始申请了阿，难道这个不算？

k*r2011-08-09 07:08

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皮匠博客里面有这篇文章, 对你也许有点用.
http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/immigration/366189.html

status.

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m*n2011-08-09 07:08

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nice really usful information

【在 k*******r 的大作中提到】

: 皮匠博客里面有这篇文章, 对你也许有点用.
: http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/immigration/366189.html
:
: status.

g*x2011-08-09 07:08

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我觉得楼主的情况很复杂，说实话很危险，要认真对待，还是找个好一点的律师把。
在美国保持合法身份的关键是，每一个身份失效前，要提交下一个转换身份（COS）的
申请，要环环相扣，对于最后485的影响是，身份失效不能超过180天（使用245k）。
这个case相当于三个环，F1-〉H1B-〉F2，关键是环扣上了没。
我的理解是，
首先，H1B的申请(9/2)已经晚于OPT的grace period (8/30),严格来说身份已经开始失
效，H1B pending 期间不能算合法，所以一直到F2开始之前都是unauthorized stay。
这个环没有扣上。
第二，按照皮匠的说法，在第一个申请pending时提交第二个申请，如果第一个申请批
准了，那没有问题，但如果第一个申请被拒，那么第二个申请也会变成无效。楼主在
H1B pending时交的F2,H1B后来被拒，严格说这个F2也有问题，但是移民局自己批的事
情，应该不会去追究了。
如果楼主能证明H1B申请是在opt失效之前就提交，可能还有些帮助。
当年如果回国签F2的话，曾经的身份失效可以抹去，这个时候还是找个好的律师吧，
回复这个RFE很重要，后果可以很严重。
我不是想危言耸听，只是想让楼主知道可能的最坏结果。当然希望你们顺利解决这个暂
时的问题，早日拿到绿卡。

status.

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