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t*m2011-09-16 07:09

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各位兄弟姐妹，帮忙拿个主意吧。
在审一个澳洲大牛的文章（某期刊主编），里面提到他们的模拟工作应用了我的模型，
得到了很好的结果。
这两天就要file Eb1b了，已经等不到他的文章发表了。
如果把这个大牛的草稿直接当引用证明交上去，是不是会被RFE呀？可是不讲又很可惜
。因为他们组去年的文章还说该这项模拟工作目前最大的困难就是在哪一块还缺少合适
的模型，结果他这个文章正好用我的模型补上了这个缺，而且效果还很好。。。
各位大侠，有没有什么高见呀，帮忙拿个主意吧。小弟谢过了～～～

N*Z2011-09-16 07:09

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可以列上，打印画出引用你的部分，说明是你身的文章。
不觉的能rfe什么。
我有一个引用也是身的时发现的，这是我被邀身的原因，很正常。

t*m2011-09-16 07:09

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那真是太好了。
太谢谢了。那我就放心大胆地用了。

【在 N*Z 的大作中提到】

: 可以列上，打印画出引用你的部分，说明是你身的文章。
: 不觉的能rfe什么。
: 我有一个引用也是身的时发现的，这是我被邀身的原因，很正常。

d*32011-09-16 07:09

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小心喽，注意看你收到的稿子上有没有写‘保密，仅供审稿’，

【在 t******m 的大作中提到】

: 各位兄弟姐妹，帮忙拿个主意吧。
: 在审一个澳洲大牛的文章（某期刊主编），里面提到他们的模拟工作应用了我的模型，
: 得到了很好的结果。
: 这两天就要file Eb1b了，已经等不到他的文章发表了。
: 如果把这个大牛的草稿直接当引用证明交上去，是不是会被RFE呀？可是不讲又很可惜
: 。因为他们组去年的文章还说该这项模拟工作目前最大的困难就是在哪一块还缺少合适
: 的模型，结果他这个文章正好用我的模型补上了这个缺，而且效果还很好。。。
: 各位大侠，有没有什么高见呀，帮忙拿个主意吧。小弟谢过了～～～

B*n2011-09-16 07:09

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I am not sure this is a good idea, and one more citation doesn't make much
difference.
Better ask for reference letter from that guy. Draft the letter in a way
that he/she is to know you are reviewing his paper...

【在 N*Z 的大作中提到】

: 可以列上，打印画出引用你的部分，说明是你身的文章。
: 不觉的能rfe什么。
: 我有一个引用也是身的时发现的，这是我被邀身的原因，很正常。

e*r2011-09-16 07:09

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Re 这个.效果一样,还没有破坏保密协议

【在 B**n 的大作中提到】

: I am not sure this is a good idea, and one more citation doesn't make much
: difference.
: Better ask for reference letter from that guy. Draft the letter in a way
: that he/she is to know you are reviewing his paper...

b*r2011-09-16 07:09

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not a good idea at all.

T*y2011-09-16 07:09

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This is not good, because there's conflict of interest.
The authors may feel that you were threatening them to have to write you a
good letter.
Or, the journal, if finding it out, may argue that you give a pass to this
manuscript, because they agreed with your request, but not because the
manuscript was worth publishing.

【在 B**n 的大作中提到】

T*y2011-09-16 07:09

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Don't put it in "Citation", because it is NOT a citation, yet.
Put it in the "Other" category. Print out the review invitation clearly
indicating the manuscript title and the authors, if possible, and the
manuscript pages talking about your work. Say something like your work is
continuing to make important impact, etc, which is a very good evidence of
your sustainable impact.

【在 t******m 的大作中提到】

n*p2011-09-16 07:09

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I had exactly the same situation. A theoretical result in my
paper was used in a manuscript I reviewed to justify their numerical
simulations.
What I did was to put such information in a recommendation letter
from a independent expert (not authors of that manuscript). You
are not supposed to contact those authors about anything of that
manuscript.
The good thing for my situation is, those authors put the preprint
on their webpage, so it is open to the public.

【在 T*******y 的大作中提到】

: Don't put it in "Citation", because it is NOT a citation, yet.
: Put it in the "Other" category. Print out the review invitation clearly
: indicating the manuscript title and the authors, if possible, and the
: manuscript pages talking about your work. Say something like your work is
: continuing to make important impact, etc, which is a very good evidence of
: your sustainable impact.

w*e2011-09-16 07:09

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Be professional.
You cannot contact with the author anyway.
It is not YET a citation.

t*m2011-09-16 07:09

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My greatest thanks to your all.
Though several different answers, but I know all of you are trying your best
to help me.
I'll consider all of the suggestions from your guys carefully and go ahead.
Bunch of thanks. Really helpful

【在 w****e 的大作中提到】

: Be professional.
: You cannot contact with the author anyway.
: It is not YET a citation.

B*n2011-09-16 07:09

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Writing to authors about their manuscript under your review isn't too much a
big deal.
Your commitment is not to release the paper to the public, and be fair with
the scientific content etc. I didn't see any requirement restraining
communication between reviewer and author. For your case, as long as their
work is indeed about your model, and you want to chat with author for some
green card letter which is nothing to do with research and publication. I
don't see any problem there. Reviewer only gives comment and suggestion. By
definition reviewer isn't the judge, it's editor.
In fact there are always debates whether reviewer's name and comment shall
be open as well. See Biology Direct for example.
If you really care, you can finish your review first, send them to back to
the journal, then write to daniu for reference letter. Say "by chance, i
got to know your recent work... i am impressed ... and happy to see my
model contributes... "