h*c
2 楼
背景：工科2011年PhD，现在postdoc。
Paper 23，全英文，10篇一作；9月份交的时候93的citation。
Review 25
claim了老三样，authorship 和 review 都承认了，不承认contribution of major
significance
我怎么找不到IO number啊？
RFE 原文如下：
(V) Evidence of the beneficiary's original scientific, scholarly, artistic,
athletic, or business-related contributions of major significance in the
field.
The petitioner has provided letters from the following individuals:
这里列出我的推荐人姓名单位
This criterion has not been met because the evidence submitted does not show
that the beneficiary's contributions are considered to be of major
significance in the field of endeavor. Dr. XX has been an advisor and
colleague of the beneficiary at XX University from 2007 through 2011 when
the beneficiary received his Ph.D. This letter can provide important details
about the beneficiary's role in the research coordinated by Dr. XX, however
, it cannot form the cornerstone of a successful extraordinary ability claim
. Drs. XX, XXX, XXX, and XXX all state they were writing specifically in
support of the petitioner's application for permanent resident status, or to
express an assessment or evaluation of his research career. Even when
written by independent experts, letters solicited by an alien in support of
an immigration petition are of less weight than preexisting, independent
evidence of original contributions or major significance that one would
expect of an individual who has sustained national or international acclaim
at the very top of the field. To asssit in determining whether the
beneficiary's contributions are original and of major significance in the
field, the petitioner may submit:
-Objective documentary evidence of the significance of the beneficiary's
contribution to the field.
-Documentary evidence that people throughout the field currently consider
the beneficiary's work important.
- Testimony and/or support letters from experts which discuss the beneficary
's contributions of major significance.
- Evidence that the beneficiary's major significant contributions has
provoked widespread public commentary in the field or has been widely cited.
- Evidence of the beneficary's work being implemented by others. Possible
evidence may include but is not limited to:
- Contracts with companies using the beneficiary's products;
- Licensed technology being used by others;
- Patents currently utilized and shown to be significant to the field.
大家帮忙看看啊！ 帮忙出出主意！ 谢谢啦！
Paper 23，全英文，10篇一作；9月份交的时候93的citation。
Review 25
claim了老三样，authorship 和 review 都承认了，不承认contribution of major
significance
我怎么找不到IO number啊？
RFE 原文如下：
(V) Evidence of the beneficiary's original scientific, scholarly, artistic,
athletic, or business-related contributions of major significance in the
field.
The petitioner has provided letters from the following individuals:
这里列出我的推荐人姓名单位
This criterion has not been met because the evidence submitted does not show
that the beneficiary's contributions are considered to be of major
significance in the field of endeavor. Dr. XX has been an advisor and
colleague of the beneficiary at XX University from 2007 through 2011 when
the beneficiary received his Ph.D. This letter can provide important details
about the beneficiary's role in the research coordinated by Dr. XX, however
, it cannot form the cornerstone of a successful extraordinary ability claim
. Drs. XX, XXX, XXX, and XXX all state they were writing specifically in
support of the petitioner's application for permanent resident status, or to
express an assessment or evaluation of his research career. Even when
written by independent experts, letters solicited by an alien in support of
an immigration petition are of less weight than preexisting, independent
evidence of original contributions or major significance that one would
expect of an individual who has sustained national or international acclaim
at the very top of the field. To asssit in determining whether the
beneficiary's contributions are original and of major significance in the
field, the petitioner may submit:
-Objective documentary evidence of the significance of the beneficiary's
contribution to the field.
-Documentary evidence that people throughout the field currently consider
the beneficiary's work important.
- Testimony and/or support letters from experts which discuss the beneficary
's contributions of major significance.
- Evidence that the beneficiary's major significant contributions has
provoked widespread public commentary in the field or has been widely cited.
- Evidence of the beneficary's work being implemented by others. Possible
evidence may include but is not limited to:
- Contracts with companies using the beneficiary's products;
- Licensed technology being used by others;
- Patents currently utilized and shown to be significant to the field.
大家帮忙看看啊！ 帮忙出出主意！ 谢谢啦！
b*d
3 楼
IO number是在你收到的RFE的director签名的下面EX....后面的数字。
h*c
4 楼
哦 谢谢
那我的IO 是 EX 0535
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: IO number是在你收到的RFE的director签名的下面EX....后面的数字。
那我的IO 是 EX 0535
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: IO number是在你收到的RFE的director签名的下面EX....后面的数字。
b*d
5 楼
0535口碑不错哈～
0535: RFE (4), Denial (0), Approval (4), Withdraw (0), Pending (0)
不用担心，好好准备，会过的！
bless～
【在 h*****c 的大作中提到】
: 哦 谢谢
: 那我的IO 是 EX 0535
0535: RFE (4), Denial (0), Approval (4), Withdraw (0), Pending (0)
不用担心，好好准备，会过的！
bless～
【在 h*****c 的大作中提到】
: 哦 谢谢
: 那我的IO 是 EX 0535
w*u
6 楼
感觉你应该找些cite你文章的人，要强调，自从你发了啥文章以后，你的文章研究意义
深远重大，推荐人就开始关注你了，使劲吹，blabla,
深远重大，推荐人就开始关注你了，使劲吹，blabla,
h*c
7 楼
谢谢话
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: 0535口碑不错哈～
: 0535: RFE (4), Denial (0), Approval (4), Withdraw (0), Pending (0)
: 不用担心，好好准备，会过的！
: bless～
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: 0535口碑不错哈～
: 0535: RFE (4), Denial (0), Approval (4), Withdraw (0), Pending (0)
: 不用担心，好好准备，会过的！
: bless～
h*c
8 楼
嗯 好像IO 主要是不满意我的推荐信
看来要补充2封推荐信了
【在 w****u 的大作中提到】
: 感觉你应该找些cite你文章的人，要强调，自从你发了啥文章以后，你的文章研究意义
: 深远重大，推荐人就开始关注你了，使劲吹，blabla,
看来要补充2封推荐信了
【在 w****u 的大作中提到】
: 感觉你应该找些cite你文章的人，要强调，自从你发了啥文章以后，你的文章研究意义
: 深远重大，推荐人就开始关注你了，使劲吹，blabla,
L*S
9 楼
NSC这群混蛋呀。
Drs. XX, XXX, XXX, and XXX all state they were writing specifically in
support of the petitioner's application for permanent resident status, or to
express an assessment or evaluation of his research career. Even when
written by independent experts, letters solicited by an alien in support of
an immigration petition are of less weight than preexisting, independent
evidence of original contributions or major significance that one would
expect of an individual who has sustained national or international acclaim
at the very top of the field.
这都可以？！
Drs. XX, XXX, XXX, and XXX all state they were writing specifically in
support of the petitioner's application for permanent resident status, or to
express an assessment or evaluation of his research career. Even when
written by independent experts, letters solicited by an alien in support of
an immigration petition are of less weight than preexisting, independent
evidence of original contributions or major significance that one would
expect of an individual who has sustained national or international acclaim
at the very top of the field.
这都可以？！
L*S
10 楼
这是人话吗？
letters solicited by an alien in support of
an immigration petition are of less weight
推荐信都是因为申请绿卡才要的。谁闲着没事整天找人要推荐信玩？
to
of
acclaim
【在 L**S 的大作中提到】
: NSC这群混蛋呀。
: Drs. XX, XXX, XXX, and XXX all state they were writing specifically in
: support of the petitioner's application for permanent resident status, or to
: express an assessment or evaluation of his research career. Even when
: written by independent experts, letters solicited by an alien in support of
: an immigration petition are of less weight than preexisting, independent
: evidence of original contributions or major significance that one would
: expect of an individual who has sustained national or international acclaim
: at the very top of the field.
: 这都可以？！
letters solicited by an alien in support of
an immigration petition are of less weight
推荐信都是因为申请绿卡才要的。谁闲着没事整天找人要推荐信玩？
to
of
acclaim
【在 L**S 的大作中提到】
: NSC这群混蛋呀。
: Drs. XX, XXX, XXX, and XXX all state they were writing specifically in
: support of the petitioner's application for permanent resident status, or to
: express an assessment or evaluation of his research career. Even when
: written by independent experts, letters solicited by an alien in support of
: an immigration petition are of less weight than preexisting, independent
: evidence of original contributions or major significance that one would
: expect of an individual who has sustained national or international acclaim
: at the very top of the field.
: 这都可以？！
t*1
11 楼
加油， 一定能过
h*c
12 楼
是啊
我看到这段 简直是气晕了
非独立推荐信不算，独立推荐信也可以不算，那还怎么玩啊
【在 L**S 的大作中提到】
: 这是人话吗？
: letters solicited by an alien in support of
: an immigration petition are of less weight
: 推荐信都是因为申请绿卡才要的。谁闲着没事整天找人要推荐信玩？
:
: to
: of
: acclaim
我看到这段 简直是气晕了
非独立推荐信不算，独立推荐信也可以不算，那还怎么玩啊
【在 L**S 的大作中提到】
: 这是人话吗？
: letters solicited by an alien in support of
: an immigration petition are of less weight
: 推荐信都是因为申请绿卡才要的。谁闲着没事整天找人要推荐信玩？
:
: to
: of
: acclaim
c*8
13 楼
bless！！
h*c
14 楼
哎，其实我有至少2封独立推荐信就是这样吹的。
可是IO说 Even when written by independent experts, letters solicited by an
alien in support of an immigration petition are of less weight than
preexisting, independent evidence of original contributions of major
significance that one would expect of an individual who has sustained
national or international accliam at the very top of the field.
哎，这还怎么玩啊？
【在 w****u 的大作中提到】
: 感觉你应该找些cite你文章的人，要强调，自从你发了啥文章以后，你的文章研究意义
: 深远重大，推荐人就开始关注你了，使劲吹，blabla,
可是IO说 Even when written by independent experts, letters solicited by an
alien in support of an immigration petition are of less weight than
preexisting, independent evidence of original contributions of major
significance that one would expect of an individual who has sustained
national or international accliam at the very top of the field.
哎，这还怎么玩啊？
【在 w****u 的大作中提到】
: 感觉你应该找些cite你文章的人，要强调，自从你发了啥文章以后，你的文章研究意义
: 深远重大，推荐人就开始关注你了，使劲吹，blabla,
L*S
15 楼
平静下来思考，我觉得是这样的。
相对于其他客观证据，IO觉得推荐信的份量不如其他可观证据重要，因为毕竟推荐信也
都是主观写出来的。我相信IO们也明白律师帮忙起草推荐信这个行业潜规则。于是推荐
信越来越不值钱。
我觉得你应该挖掘其他的客观证据，比如别人在媒体网站或者paper里，对你工作的客
观评价。
不知道我理解的对不对。
不知道你的petition letter里面是如何提供这些证据的？
【在 h*****c 的大作中提到】
: 哎，其实我有至少2封独立推荐信就是这样吹的。
: 可是IO说 Even when written by independent experts, letters solicited by an
: alien in support of an immigration petition are of less weight than
: preexisting, independent evidence of original contributions of major
: significance that one would expect of an individual who has sustained
: national or international accliam at the very top of the field.
: 哎，这还怎么玩啊？
相对于其他客观证据，IO觉得推荐信的份量不如其他可观证据重要，因为毕竟推荐信也
都是主观写出来的。我相信IO们也明白律师帮忙起草推荐信这个行业潜规则。于是推荐
信越来越不值钱。
我觉得你应该挖掘其他的客观证据，比如别人在媒体网站或者paper里，对你工作的客
观评价。
不知道我理解的对不对。
不知道你的petition letter里面是如何提供这些证据的？
【在 h*****c 的大作中提到】
: 哎，其实我有至少2封独立推荐信就是这样吹的。
: 可是IO说 Even when written by independent experts, letters solicited by an
: alien in support of an immigration petition are of less weight than
: preexisting, independent evidence of original contributions of major
: significance that one would expect of an individual who has sustained
: national or international accliam at the very top of the field.
: 哎，这还怎么玩啊？
h*c
16 楼
多谢哈
对啊，我也感觉IO认为即使是独立推荐信也没有分量了
我的PL里面也提供了很多证据的。IO完全没有提这些啊，不知道是不是没有看。
要不你帮我看看PL呗？
【在 L**S 的大作中提到】
: 平静下来思考，我觉得是这样的。
: 相对于其他客观证据，IO觉得推荐信的份量不如其他可观证据重要，因为毕竟推荐信也
: 都是主观写出来的。我相信IO们也明白律师帮忙起草推荐信这个行业潜规则。于是推荐
: 信越来越不值钱。
: 我觉得你应该挖掘其他的客观证据，比如别人在媒体网站或者paper里，对你工作的客
: 观评价。
: 不知道我理解的对不对。
: 不知道你的petition letter里面是如何提供这些证据的？
对啊，我也感觉IO认为即使是独立推荐信也没有分量了
我的PL里面也提供了很多证据的。IO完全没有提这些啊，不知道是不是没有看。
要不你帮我看看PL呗？
【在 L**S 的大作中提到】
: 平静下来思考，我觉得是这样的。
: 相对于其他客观证据，IO觉得推荐信的份量不如其他可观证据重要，因为毕竟推荐信也
: 都是主观写出来的。我相信IO们也明白律师帮忙起草推荐信这个行业潜规则。于是推荐
: 信越来越不值钱。
: 我觉得你应该挖掘其他的客观证据，比如别人在媒体网站或者paper里，对你工作的客
: 观评价。
: 不知道我理解的对不对。
: 不知道你的petition letter里面是如何提供这些证据的？
n*u
17 楼
yechang? 加油!
等你的好消息啊
,
【在 h*****c 的大作中提到】
: 背景：工科2011年PhD，现在postdoc。
: Paper 23，全英文，10篇一作；9月份交的时候93的citation。
: Review 25
: claim了老三样，authorship 和 review 都承认了，不承认contribution of major
: significance
: 我怎么找不到IO number啊？
: RFE 原文如下：
: (V) Evidence of the beneficiary's original scientific, scholarly, artistic,
: athletic, or business-related contributions of major significance in the
: field.
等你的好消息啊
,
【在 h*****c 的大作中提到】
: 背景：工科2011年PhD，现在postdoc。
: Paper 23，全英文，10篇一作；9月份交的时候93的citation。
: Review 25
: claim了老三样，authorship 和 review 都承认了，不承认contribution of major
: significance
: 我怎么找不到IO number啊？
: RFE 原文如下：
: (V) Evidence of the beneficiary's original scientific, scholarly, artistic,
: athletic, or business-related contributions of major significance in the
: field.
L*L
18 楼
和我是同一个IO （535），这段话的措辞显然是模板和我的几乎一摸一样。 :(
感觉IO几乎没看我的材料，因为要求提供的哪些东西我已经提供了，而且还相当全面。
这一条被干掉最郁闷了，因为我自觉自己材料中这部分最齐备，而且最多时间精力的推
荐信都在这里。
感觉IO几乎没看我的材料，因为要求提供的哪些东西我已经提供了，而且还相当全面。
这一条被干掉最郁闷了，因为我自觉自己材料中这部分最齐备，而且最多时间精力的推
荐信都在这里。
h*c
19 楼
对啊
我也是大部分精力都放在contribution 这一部分。
证据也有很多，全部被无视了。
那你rfe交了么?
【在 L***L 的大作中提到】
: 和我是同一个IO （535），这段话的措辞显然是模板和我的几乎一摸一样。 :(
: 感觉IO几乎没看我的材料，因为要求提供的哪些东西我已经提供了，而且还相当全面。
: 这一条被干掉最郁闷了，因为我自觉自己材料中这部分最齐备，而且最多时间精力的推
: 荐信都在这里。
我也是大部分精力都放在contribution 这一部分。
证据也有很多，全部被无视了。
那你rfe交了么?
【在 L***L 的大作中提到】
: 和我是同一个IO （535），这段话的措辞显然是模板和我的几乎一摸一样。 :(
: 感觉IO几乎没看我的材料，因为要求提供的哪些东西我已经提供了，而且还相当全面。
: 这一条被干掉最郁闷了，因为我自觉自己材料中这部分最齐备，而且最多时间精力的推
: 荐信都在这里。
L*L
20 楼
还没交，正在痛苦琢磨中呢，可以一起同病相怜讨论下。 私信电话联系吧。
F*n
21 楼
Bless both of you!
【在 L***L 的大作中提到】
: 还没交，正在痛苦琢磨中呢，可以一起同病相怜讨论下。 私信电话联系吧。
【在 L***L 的大作中提到】
: 还没交，正在痛苦琢磨中呢，可以一起同病相怜讨论下。 私信电话联系吧。
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