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v*i
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这个是说Greece 这次是不会default了吗?
http://www.cnbc.com/id/43449610
A restructuring of Greece's 340 billion euro ($481.5 billion) debt is not on
the agenda and would damage the country's credibility on bond markets, the
European Union's internal markets commissioner said on Saturday.
Forcing Greece's private creditors to take part in an upcoming aid package
would count as a restructuring and is not being considered either, Michel
Barnier told Europe 1 radio.
"This question of a restructuring ... is not on the table," he said. "It
would only postpone the problem and in the wake of a restructuring Greece
would face exactly the same difficulties and would no longer have any
credibility to borrow."
Greece's embattled prime minister on Friday sacrificed his finance minister
to force through an unpopular austerity plan and avert bankruptcy, while EU
powers Germany and France promised to go on funding Athens.
Citing German and French backing for a plan to involve private bondholders
such as banks on a purely voluntary basis, Barnier said: "To impose an
effort would be to acknowledge a restructuring and that is not on the agenda
."
Describing Greece as a country that had been badly run and had lived above
its means, Barnier said the solution was a "collective" effort to
successfully thrash out the details of a new rescue plan in the coming weeks.
"We don't have the right to draw blank cheques on the back of future
generations," he said. "The work is to continue over the coming weeks."
Bond markets remain spooked by fears of a Greek default and most economists
are overwhelmingly sceptical that Greece can ever repay its debts in full.
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J*3
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第一,严枪不能消除恐怖分子,他们依然可用炸弹。
这个论点没错,只是不足以成为不严枪的理由,因为严枪(禁冲锋枪等重型杀伤武器和
严管普通枪支)的目的是为了让有群杀动机的人难度更大,从而对具有各种群杀动机的
预谋和实施能更有效的查防,更好地保护无辜民众的安全。
事实说明几次大的群杀事件都是用的AR-15半自动冲锋枪,而且市场上很容易购买。人
群中有再多的英雄和能者都无法抵制这种武器,警察的难度也大,所以伤亡惨重。
炸弹已经是禁止出售的,当然对非法渠道需要严加控制,不应因严枪而消除对使用其它
武器的警惕,所以政治家不应以此为由阻碍严枪。
第二, 如果不能将恐怖袭击者扩大到针对所有的穆斯林人,那么也同样不能因坏人用
枪而禁止好人。这种对等论理不能说完全有错。
对个人自由的限制要根据造成社会和他人生命影响的程度和利弊分析而定,不能以个人
的绝对自由为标准。个人拥有重型杀伤武器对无辜民众的危害,对社会的稳定安全造成
的威胁要大于个人拥有它所带来的益处。至少现实多例事实说明了这一点。 相反地,
如果将个人的恐怖行为扩大到针对整个宗教和民族反而会造成更多的社会矛盾,增加仇
恨,而不是减少矛盾,对社会和谐稳定安全造成更大范围的威胁。从因果层面来分析,
这种对等推理结论相反。
因此,Huckabee 反对严枪的两条理由都不充分。
Huckabee是典型的Arkansas社会垃圾
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v*i
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没人知道吗?

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【在 v**********i 的大作中提到】
: 这个是说Greece 这次是不会default了吗?
: http://www.cnbc.com/id/43449610
: A restructuring of Greece's 340 billion euro ($481.5 billion) debt is not on
: the agenda and would damage the country's credibility on bond markets, the
: European Union's internal markets commissioner said on Saturday.
: Forcing Greece's private creditors to take part in an upcoming aid package
: would count as a restructuring and is not being considered either, Michel
: Barnier told Europe 1 radio.
: "This question of a restructuring ... is not on the table," he said. "It
: would only postpone the problem and in the wake of a restructuring Greece

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j*b
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大概是这个意思吧。过一年债券到期之后再重新来一遍。

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【在 v**********i 的大作中提到】
: 这个是说Greece 这次是不会default了吗?
: http://www.cnbc.com/id/43449610
: A restructuring of Greece's 340 billion euro ($481.5 billion) debt is not on
: the agenda and would damage the country's credibility on bond markets, the
: European Union's internal markets commissioner said on Saturday.
: Forcing Greece's private creditors to take part in an upcoming aid package
: would count as a restructuring and is not being considered either, Michel
: Barnier told Europe 1 radio.
: "This question of a restructuring ... is not on the table," he said. "It
: would only postpone the problem and in the wake of a restructuring Greece

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s*n
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It means Ecb and IMF will have to bail out Greece. All rating agencies
already said restructuring will be considered default and will trigger
downgrades.
It's several hundred billion euros, and if this is done, then they have to do it for all PIGS likely. Europe is in deep deep
shit. But short term there should be some relief to European stocks, especially banks, because they won't be required
to take haircuts.
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v*i
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they have germany to pick up the bill, no worries.

do it for all PIGS likely. Europe is in deep deep
especially banks, because they won't be required

【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: It means Ecb and IMF will have to bail out Greece. All rating agencies
: already said restructuring will be considered default and will trigger
: downgrades.
: It's several hundred billion euros, and if this is done, then they have to do it for all PIGS likely. Europe is in deep deep
: shit. But short term there should be some relief to European stocks, especially banks, because they won't be required
: to take haircuts.

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