r*x
3 楼
怎么介绍呢?
我已婚,二十七八,不想破坏家,也不想放下女人,怎么办?
我已婚,二十七八,不想破坏家,也不想放下女人,怎么办?
y*k
5 楼
If you are ugly then please do everyone a favor and stay put.
If all you want is sex, 100 bucks go a long way in Las Vegas.
If you don't want to spend the money but you are super pretty you can
probably find a naive young T who's happy to be your weekend sex partner.
If you want more than just sex then you should find another married woman
who wants exactly what you want (i.e., have a lover but still remain married
).
Ethically speaking, if you are determined to stay married to a guy, you
should just bury your lesbian desire. Otherwise you'll almost certainly end
up hurting others just like in the vid below (scene starts at 11:55).
【在 r**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 怎么介绍呢?
: 我已婚,二十七八,不想破坏家,也不想放下女人,怎么办?
If all you want is sex, 100 bucks go a long way in Las Vegas.
If you don't want to spend the money but you are super pretty you can
probably find a naive young T who's happy to be your weekend sex partner.
If you want more than just sex then you should find another married woman
who wants exactly what you want (i.e., have a lover but still remain married
).
Ethically speaking, if you are determined to stay married to a guy, you
should just bury your lesbian desire. Otherwise you'll almost certainly end
up hurting others just like in the vid below (scene starts at 11:55).
【在 r**x 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 怎么介绍呢?
: 我已婚,二十七八,不想破坏家,也不想放下女人,怎么办?
s*n
11 楼
I think you are a bit too cruel, yoburtmilk.
I always thought, at least based on the movies you watched, you are tolerate
and compassionate.
First, you shouldn't use "ugly" as a classifier.
Or, you also shouldn't use "naive T" as an example.
It is way unnecessary and has nothing to do with the post.
I think even an ugly one could find happiness and is deserved to be loved.
Not anyone is as lucky as you or me or other lesbians on the board.
People are different.
Marriages mean different things to different people.
You might not know what she is going through.
I just watched the movie Amiee and Jagure. Lily was a married woman before
she met Felice.
Life can be uncontrollable.
Let LZ find her own way to balance her own life and hope she will find her
own happiness.
married
end
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: If you are ugly then please do everyone a favor and stay put.
: If all you want is sex, 100 bucks go a long way in Las Vegas.
: If you don't want to spend the money but you are super pretty you can
: probably find a naive young T who's happy to be your weekend sex partner.
: If you want more than just sex then you should find another married woman
: who wants exactly what you want (i.e., have a lover but still remain married
: ).
: Ethically speaking, if you are determined to stay married to a guy, you
: should just bury your lesbian desire. Otherwise you'll almost certainly end
: up hurting others just like in the vid below (scene starts at 11:55).
I always thought, at least based on the movies you watched, you are tolerate
and compassionate.
First, you shouldn't use "ugly" as a classifier.
Or, you also shouldn't use "naive T" as an example.
It is way unnecessary and has nothing to do with the post.
I think even an ugly one could find happiness and is deserved to be loved.
Not anyone is as lucky as you or me or other lesbians on the board.
People are different.
Marriages mean different things to different people.
You might not know what she is going through.
I just watched the movie Amiee and Jagure. Lily was a married woman before
she met Felice.
Life can be uncontrollable.
Let LZ find her own way to balance her own life and hope she will find her
own happiness.
married
end
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: If you are ugly then please do everyone a favor and stay put.
: If all you want is sex, 100 bucks go a long way in Las Vegas.
: If you don't want to spend the money but you are super pretty you can
: probably find a naive young T who's happy to be your weekend sex partner.
: If you want more than just sex then you should find another married woman
: who wants exactly what you want (i.e., have a lover but still remain married
: ).
: Ethically speaking, if you are determined to stay married to a guy, you
: should just bury your lesbian desire. Otherwise you'll almost certainly end
: up hurting others just like in the vid below (scene starts at 11:55).
w*r
13 楼
严重同意
tolerate
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I think you are a bit too cruel, yoburtmilk.
: I always thought, at least based on the movies you watched, you are tolerate
: and compassionate.
: First, you shouldn't use "ugly" as a classifier.
: Or, you also shouldn't use "naive T" as an example.
: It is way unnecessary and has nothing to do with the post.
: I think even an ugly one could find happiness and is deserved to be loved.
: Not anyone is as lucky as you or me or other lesbians on the board.
: People are different.
: Marriages mean different things to different people.
tolerate
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I think you are a bit too cruel, yoburtmilk.
: I always thought, at least based on the movies you watched, you are tolerate
: and compassionate.
: First, you shouldn't use "ugly" as a classifier.
: Or, you also shouldn't use "naive T" as an example.
: It is way unnecessary and has nothing to do with the post.
: I think even an ugly one could find happiness and is deserved to be loved.
: Not anyone is as lucky as you or me or other lesbians on the board.
: People are different.
: Marriages mean different things to different people.
w*r
14 楼
easy, buddy, no need to be this harsh
married
end
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: If you are ugly then please do everyone a favor and stay put.
: If all you want is sex, 100 bucks go a long way in Las Vegas.
: If you don't want to spend the money but you are super pretty you can
: probably find a naive young T who's happy to be your weekend sex partner.
: If you want more than just sex then you should find another married woman
: who wants exactly what you want (i.e., have a lover but still remain married
: ).
: Ethically speaking, if you are determined to stay married to a guy, you
: should just bury your lesbian desire. Otherwise you'll almost certainly end
: up hurting others just like in the vid below (scene starts at 11:55).
married
end
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: If you are ugly then please do everyone a favor and stay put.
: If all you want is sex, 100 bucks go a long way in Las Vegas.
: If you don't want to spend the money but you are super pretty you can
: probably find a naive young T who's happy to be your weekend sex partner.
: If you want more than just sex then you should find another married woman
: who wants exactly what you want (i.e., have a lover but still remain married
: ).
: Ethically speaking, if you are determined to stay married to a guy, you
: should just bury your lesbian desire. Otherwise you'll almost certainly end
: up hurting others just like in the vid below (scene starts at 11:55).
c*e
16 楼
我觉得这是两个问题 也是版上一直以来的一个误区
双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
ians另眼相看呢?
tolerate
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I think you are a bit too cruel, yoburtmilk.
: I always thought, at least based on the movies you watched, you are tolerate
: and compassionate.
: First, you shouldn't use "ugly" as a classifier.
: Or, you also shouldn't use "naive T" as an example.
: It is way unnecessary and has nothing to do with the post.
: I think even an ugly one could find happiness and is deserved to be loved.
: Not anyone is as lucky as you or me or other lesbians on the board.
: People are different.
: Marriages mean different things to different people.
双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
ians另眼相看呢?
tolerate
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I think you are a bit too cruel, yoburtmilk.
: I always thought, at least based on the movies you watched, you are tolerate
: and compassionate.
: First, you shouldn't use "ugly" as a classifier.
: Or, you also shouldn't use "naive T" as an example.
: It is way unnecessary and has nothing to do with the post.
: I think even an ugly one could find happiness and is deserved to be loved.
: Not anyone is as lucky as you or me or other lesbians on the board.
: People are different.
: Marriages mean different things to different people.
s*n
17 楼
我同意。
其实这么说很不公平。许多拉拉不也有可能劈腿吗? 只不过没有婚姻的束缚而已。 我
并不觉得一纸婚姻,就让一个人多了或少了束缚。不结婚也不代表不忠心于女朋友就要
减少道德谴责。
直说,一个人认定自己是拉拉, 并不愿意和男人结婚,并不等于一个人在道德上占任
何优势。
婚外恋, 和是否是拉拉,毫无关系。
)
有人
lesb
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得这是两个问题 也是版上一直以来的一个误区
: 双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
: 我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
: 而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
: 即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
: 所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
: ians另眼相看呢?
:
: tolerate
其实这么说很不公平。许多拉拉不也有可能劈腿吗? 只不过没有婚姻的束缚而已。 我
并不觉得一纸婚姻,就让一个人多了或少了束缚。不结婚也不代表不忠心于女朋友就要
减少道德谴责。
直说,一个人认定自己是拉拉, 并不愿意和男人结婚,并不等于一个人在道德上占任
何优势。
婚外恋, 和是否是拉拉,毫无关系。
)
有人
lesb
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得这是两个问题 也是版上一直以来的一个误区
: 双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
: 我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
: 而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
: 即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
: 所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
: ians另眼相看呢?
:
: tolerate
s*n
18 楼
我同意。
其实这么说很不公平。许多拉拉不也有可能劈腿吗? 只不过没有婚姻的束缚而已。 我
并不觉得一纸婚姻,就让一个人多了或少了束缚。不结婚也不代表不忠心于女朋友就要
减少道德谴责。
直说,一个人认定自己是拉拉, 并不愿意和男人结婚,并不等于一个人在道德上占任
何优势。
婚外恋, 和是否是拉拉,毫无关系。
)
有人
lesb
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得这是两个问题 也是版上一直以来的一个误区
: 双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
: 我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
: 而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
: 即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
: 所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
: ians另眼相看呢?
:
: tolerate
其实这么说很不公平。许多拉拉不也有可能劈腿吗? 只不过没有婚姻的束缚而已。 我
并不觉得一纸婚姻,就让一个人多了或少了束缚。不结婚也不代表不忠心于女朋友就要
减少道德谴责。
直说,一个人认定自己是拉拉, 并不愿意和男人结婚,并不等于一个人在道德上占任
何优势。
婚外恋, 和是否是拉拉,毫无关系。
)
有人
lesb
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得这是两个问题 也是版上一直以来的一个误区
: 双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
: 我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
: 而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
: 即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
: 所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
: ians另眼相看呢?
:
: tolerate
y*k
19 楼
K, I admit it wasn't nice to use "ugly" but it's the first word that came to
my mind when I read "不想破坏家,也不想放下女人". Not to be too cynical,
but what kind of oxymoron question is this?! If you wanna remain married to
a guy then there's no way you can have a woman on the side without breaking
the family. Unless of course, you are psychopathic and can turn a blind eye
to other's pain.
Whoever wrote the post is certainly not Lily. What she wants to be is more
like Katie in Tipping the velvet and Vita Sackville. Can you justify Katie
wanting to remain married to Walter while having Nan or Vita pretty much
ignoring her husband and son while having relationships with numerous women?
I know I cannot, even after considering the era they lived in. Maybe you
have a bigger heart than mine.
It's true everyone have the right to pursue happiness and is deserved to be
loved but at whose cost?
We are living in a time where modern family is on prime time and most people
hardly raise an eyebrow when you tell them you are gay. Still, we have some
twenty-seven old (it's not like she's 50 and didn't know it's okay to be
with a woman) here writing about wanting to stay married and have a lesbian
fling on the side. It's pure greedy and selfish. In fact, now that I think
about it, ugly is too light a word. Evil would have been more appropriate.
tolerate
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I think you are a bit too cruel, yoburtmilk.
: I always thought, at least based on the movies you watched, you are tolerate
: and compassionate.
: First, you shouldn't use "ugly" as a classifier.
: Or, you also shouldn't use "naive T" as an example.
: It is way unnecessary and has nothing to do with the post.
: I think even an ugly one could find happiness and is deserved to be loved.
: Not anyone is as lucky as you or me or other lesbians on the board.
: People are different.
: Marriages mean different things to different people.
my mind when I read "不想破坏家,也不想放下女人". Not to be too cynical,
but what kind of oxymoron question is this?! If you wanna remain married to
a guy then there's no way you can have a woman on the side without breaking
the family. Unless of course, you are psychopathic and can turn a blind eye
to other's pain.
Whoever wrote the post is certainly not Lily. What she wants to be is more
like Katie in Tipping the velvet and Vita Sackville. Can you justify Katie
wanting to remain married to Walter while having Nan or Vita pretty much
ignoring her husband and son while having relationships with numerous women?
I know I cannot, even after considering the era they lived in. Maybe you
have a bigger heart than mine.
It's true everyone have the right to pursue happiness and is deserved to be
loved but at whose cost?
We are living in a time where modern family is on prime time and most people
hardly raise an eyebrow when you tell them you are gay. Still, we have some
twenty-seven old (it's not like she's 50 and didn't know it's okay to be
with a woman) here writing about wanting to stay married and have a lesbian
fling on the side. It's pure greedy and selfish. In fact, now that I think
about it, ugly is too light a word. Evil would have been more appropriate.
tolerate
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I think you are a bit too cruel, yoburtmilk.
: I always thought, at least based on the movies you watched, you are tolerate
: and compassionate.
: First, you shouldn't use "ugly" as a classifier.
: Or, you also shouldn't use "naive T" as an example.
: It is way unnecessary and has nothing to do with the post.
: I think even an ugly one could find happiness and is deserved to be loved.
: Not anyone is as lucky as you or me or other lesbians on the board.
: People are different.
: Marriages mean different things to different people.
d*w
21 楼
这里有未成年吗?可以不同意,但貌似也没那个必要去批判,每个人都有自己的活法和
背后的故事。listen,observe,share,learn,but plz don't judge....
背后的故事。listen,observe,share,learn,but plz don't judge....
s*n
22 楼
我真不觉得楼主有你想的这么坏。
你不真的了解她的情况。
再说人家就是想了解情况。 也没诚心想骗谁。真说不上坏在哪里。你不接受她这样的
生活,过你自己的就好了。
楼主就是需要找到和自己情况差不多的人。 估计不在这里。
人都有有苦处的时候。
to
to
breaking
eye
women?
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: K, I admit it wasn't nice to use "ugly" but it's the first word that came to
: my mind when I read "不想破坏家,也不想放下女人". Not to be too cynical,
: but what kind of oxymoron question is this?! If you wanna remain married to
: a guy then there's no way you can have a woman on the side without breaking
: the family. Unless of course, you are psychopathic and can turn a blind eye
: to other's pain.
: Whoever wrote the post is certainly not Lily. What she wants to be is more
: like Katie in Tipping the velvet and Vita Sackville. Can you justify Katie
: wanting to remain married to Walter while having Nan or Vita pretty much
: ignoring her husband and son while having relationships with numerous women?
你不真的了解她的情况。
再说人家就是想了解情况。 也没诚心想骗谁。真说不上坏在哪里。你不接受她这样的
生活,过你自己的就好了。
楼主就是需要找到和自己情况差不多的人。 估计不在这里。
人都有有苦处的时候。
to
to
breaking
eye
women?
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: K, I admit it wasn't nice to use "ugly" but it's the first word that came to
: my mind when I read "不想破坏家,也不想放下女人". Not to be too cynical,
: but what kind of oxymoron question is this?! If you wanna remain married to
: a guy then there's no way you can have a woman on the side without breaking
: the family. Unless of course, you are psychopathic and can turn a blind eye
: to other's pain.
: Whoever wrote the post is certainly not Lily. What she wants to be is more
: like Katie in Tipping the velvet and Vita Sackville. Can you justify Katie
: wanting to remain married to Walter while having Nan or Vita pretty much
: ignoring her husband and son while having relationships with numerous women?
s*n
23 楼
因为众人都觉得自己不容易。 好不容易当了拉拉,受了这么多苦。却有人想啥都占着
。。。但是啥都占着容易阿。
个人认为爱有很多种。 也许有的女人对另一个女人有依恋和性的吸引,但是又放弃不
了自己的丈夫。 我没觉得这个又那么难以理解。
相反,这更让我觉得人性的复杂。 更让我觉得生活的不容易。 当自己有了说不出的苦
处, 我也可以告诉自己,世界不是黑白的。 只要真诚。。。
就想拉拉有时候爱上直人女孩子,很苦恼。 但多数情况下,还是很享受那种暧昧,即
使不能称为女朋友,想想也不错。人生太复杂了。
)
有人
lesb
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得这是两个问题 也是版上一直以来的一个误区
: 双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
: 我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
: 而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
: 即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
: 所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
: ians另眼相看呢?
:
: tolerate
。。。但是啥都占着容易阿。
个人认为爱有很多种。 也许有的女人对另一个女人有依恋和性的吸引,但是又放弃不
了自己的丈夫。 我没觉得这个又那么难以理解。
相反,这更让我觉得人性的复杂。 更让我觉得生活的不容易。 当自己有了说不出的苦
处, 我也可以告诉自己,世界不是黑白的。 只要真诚。。。
就想拉拉有时候爱上直人女孩子,很苦恼。 但多数情况下,还是很享受那种暧昧,即
使不能称为女朋友,想想也不错。人生太复杂了。
)
有人
lesb
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得这是两个问题 也是版上一直以来的一个误区
: 双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
: 我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
: 而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
: 即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
: 所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
: ians另眼相看呢?
:
: tolerate
s*n
24 楼
因为众人都觉得自己不容易。 好不容易当了拉拉,受了这么多苦。却有人想啥都占着
。。。但是啥都占着容易阿。
个人认为爱有很多种。 也许有的女人对另一个女人有依恋和性的吸引,但是又放弃不
了自己的丈夫。 我没觉得这个又那么难以理解。
相反,这更让我觉得人性的复杂。 更让我觉得生活的不容易。 当自己有了说不出的苦
处, 我也可以告诉自己,世界不是黑白的。 只要真诚。。。
就想拉拉有时候爱上直人女孩子,很苦恼。 但多数情况下,还是很享受那种暧昧,即
使不能称为女朋友,想想也不错。人生太复杂了。
)
有人
lesb
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得这是两个问题 也是版上一直以来的一个误区
: 双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
: 我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
: 而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
: 即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
: 所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
: ians另眼相看呢?
:
: tolerate
。。。但是啥都占着容易阿。
个人认为爱有很多种。 也许有的女人对另一个女人有依恋和性的吸引,但是又放弃不
了自己的丈夫。 我没觉得这个又那么难以理解。
相反,这更让我觉得人性的复杂。 更让我觉得生活的不容易。 当自己有了说不出的苦
处, 我也可以告诉自己,世界不是黑白的。 只要真诚。。。
就想拉拉有时候爱上直人女孩子,很苦恼。 但多数情况下,还是很享受那种暧昧,即
使不能称为女朋友,想想也不错。人生太复杂了。
)
有人
lesb
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得这是两个问题 也是版上一直以来的一个误区
: 双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
: 我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
: 而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
: 即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
: 所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
: ians另眼相看呢?
:
: tolerate
s*n
25 楼
我倒是很害怕那种,homophobic, 的已婚女人。
多点双性恋多好阿。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 因为众人都觉得自己不容易。 好不容易当了拉拉,受了这么多苦。却有人想啥都占着
: 。。。但是啥都占着容易阿。
: 个人认为爱有很多种。 也许有的女人对另一个女人有依恋和性的吸引,但是又放弃不
: 了自己的丈夫。 我没觉得这个又那么难以理解。
: 相反,这更让我觉得人性的复杂。 更让我觉得生活的不容易。 当自己有了说不出的苦
: 处, 我也可以告诉自己,世界不是黑白的。 只要真诚。。。
: 就想拉拉有时候爱上直人女孩子,很苦恼。 但多数情况下,还是很享受那种暧昧,即
: 使不能称为女朋友,想想也不错。人生太复杂了。
:
: )
多点双性恋多好阿。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 因为众人都觉得自己不容易。 好不容易当了拉拉,受了这么多苦。却有人想啥都占着
: 。。。但是啥都占着容易阿。
: 个人认为爱有很多种。 也许有的女人对另一个女人有依恋和性的吸引,但是又放弃不
: 了自己的丈夫。 我没觉得这个又那么难以理解。
: 相反,这更让我觉得人性的复杂。 更让我觉得生活的不容易。 当自己有了说不出的苦
: 处, 我也可以告诉自己,世界不是黑白的。 只要真诚。。。
: 就想拉拉有时候爱上直人女孩子,很苦恼。 但多数情况下,还是很享受那种暧昧,即
: 使不能称为女朋友,想想也不错。人生太复杂了。
:
: )
g*1
26 楼
楼主还没说几句,底下就先热闹了。要不等楼主来说说故事。
s*n
27 楼
Vita Sackville is the inspiration of Virginia Wolf. She has 1000 reasons to
seduce Virginia Woolf and perhaps gave her the real pleasure she deserved.
to
to
breaking
eye
women?
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: K, I admit it wasn't nice to use "ugly" but it's the first word that came to
: my mind when I read "不想破坏家,也不想放下女人". Not to be too cynical,
: but what kind of oxymoron question is this?! If you wanna remain married to
: a guy then there's no way you can have a woman on the side without breaking
: the family. Unless of course, you are psychopathic and can turn a blind eye
: to other's pain.
: Whoever wrote the post is certainly not Lily. What she wants to be is more
: like Katie in Tipping the velvet and Vita Sackville. Can you justify Katie
: wanting to remain married to Walter while having Nan or Vita pretty much
: ignoring her husband and son while having relationships with numerous women?
seduce Virginia Woolf and perhaps gave her the real pleasure she deserved.
to
to
breaking
eye
women?
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: K, I admit it wasn't nice to use "ugly" but it's the first word that came to
: my mind when I read "不想破坏家,也不想放下女人". Not to be too cynical,
: but what kind of oxymoron question is this?! If you wanna remain married to
: a guy then there's no way you can have a woman on the side without breaking
: the family. Unless of course, you are psychopathic and can turn a blind eye
: to other's pain.
: Whoever wrote the post is certainly not Lily. What she wants to be is more
: like Katie in Tipping the velvet and Vita Sackville. Can you justify Katie
: wanting to remain married to Walter while having Nan or Vita pretty much
: ignoring her husband and son while having relationships with numerous women?
s*n
30 楼
Ethically 是个很复杂的问题。
married
end
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: If you are ugly then please do everyone a favor and stay put.
: If all you want is sex, 100 bucks go a long way in Las Vegas.
: If you don't want to spend the money but you are super pretty you can
: probably find a naive young T who's happy to be your weekend sex partner.
: If you want more than just sex then you should find another married woman
: who wants exactly what you want (i.e., have a lover but still remain married
: ).
: Ethically speaking, if you are determined to stay married to a guy, you
: should just bury your lesbian desire. Otherwise you'll almost certainly end
: up hurting others just like in the vid below (scene starts at 11:55).
married
end
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: If you are ugly then please do everyone a favor and stay put.
: If all you want is sex, 100 bucks go a long way in Las Vegas.
: If you don't want to spend the money but you are super pretty you can
: probably find a naive young T who's happy to be your weekend sex partner.
: If you want more than just sex then you should find another married woman
: who wants exactly what you want (i.e., have a lover but still remain married
: ).
: Ethically speaking, if you are determined to stay married to a guy, you
: should just bury your lesbian desire. Otherwise you'll almost certainly end
: up hurting others just like in the vid below (scene starts at 11:55).
y*k
33 楼
Vita Sackville got tired of Virginia Woolf pretty quickly. The latter was
left devastated. It's true Vita inspired Virginia to write Orlando but does
that make it right for her to do what she did? World War II inspired a lot
of great literature and movies but does it make Hitler less of an evil?
In fact, Virginia Woolf didn't mention Vita in her inspired-me thank list
which made Vita's son pretty upset like he couldn't figure out why.
to
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Vita Sackville is the inspiration of Virginia Wolf. She has 1000 reasons to
: seduce Virginia Woolf and perhaps gave her the real pleasure she deserved.
:
: to
: to
: breaking
: eye
: women?
left devastated. It's true Vita inspired Virginia to write Orlando but does
that make it right for her to do what she did? World War II inspired a lot
of great literature and movies but does it make Hitler less of an evil?
In fact, Virginia Woolf didn't mention Vita in her inspired-me thank list
which made Vita's son pretty upset like he couldn't figure out why.
to
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Vita Sackville is the inspiration of Virginia Wolf. She has 1000 reasons to
: seduce Virginia Woolf and perhaps gave her the real pleasure she deserved.
:
: to
: to
: breaking
: eye
: women?
c*e
34 楼
Aight, here's my take. I'm not sure what the exact situation or puzzle bothe
rs LZ since she only briefly said it. But one thing I know is that she hasn'
t figured her life out yet. If you already have your life figured, good for
you.
Who wouldn't choose an easier life if there were a choice? living in a
better world, where doing things without having their motives questioned or
judged. However, life doesn't always go the way we plan out. Sometimes
people fight it,try and keep things the same with others, not let it throw
them off balance. Things can't go as we wish though, it's how we grow and
learn. And it must be painful to LZ, as well as everyone else in many terms.
So just let her speak.
to
to
breaking
eye
women?
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: K, I admit it wasn't nice to use "ugly" but it's the first word that came to
: my mind when I read "不想破坏家,也不想放下女人". Not to be too cynical,
: but what kind of oxymoron question is this?! If you wanna remain married to
: a guy then there's no way you can have a woman on the side without breaking
: the family. Unless of course, you are psychopathic and can turn a blind eye
: to other's pain.
: Whoever wrote the post is certainly not Lily. What she wants to be is more
: like Katie in Tipping the velvet and Vita Sackville. Can you justify Katie
: wanting to remain married to Walter while having Nan or Vita pretty much
: ignoring her husband and son while having relationships with numerous women?
rs LZ since she only briefly said it. But one thing I know is that she hasn'
t figured her life out yet. If you already have your life figured, good for
you.
Who wouldn't choose an easier life if there were a choice? living in a
better world, where doing things without having their motives questioned or
judged. However, life doesn't always go the way we plan out. Sometimes
people fight it,try and keep things the same with others, not let it throw
them off balance. Things can't go as we wish though, it's how we grow and
learn. And it must be painful to LZ, as well as everyone else in many terms.
So just let her speak.
to
to
breaking
eye
women?
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: K, I admit it wasn't nice to use "ugly" but it's the first word that came to
: my mind when I read "不想破坏家,也不想放下女人". Not to be too cynical,
: but what kind of oxymoron question is this?! If you wanna remain married to
: a guy then there's no way you can have a woman on the side without breaking
: the family. Unless of course, you are psychopathic and can turn a blind eye
: to other's pain.
: Whoever wrote the post is certainly not Lily. What she wants to be is more
: like Katie in Tipping the velvet and Vita Sackville. Can you justify Katie
: wanting to remain married to Walter while having Nan or Vita pretty much
: ignoring her husband and son while having relationships with numerous women?
s*n
35 楼
whatever. There is no "morality" involved here I dont' think. There are
many love affairs like this in human history. I won't try to judge them.
One can only be responsible for one's life. Trying to put morality onto
other people's life is hard.
does
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Vita Sackville got tired of Virginia Woolf pretty quickly. The latter was
: left devastated. It's true Vita inspired Virginia to write Orlando but does
: that make it right for her to do what she did? World War II inspired a lot
: of great literature and movies but does it make Hitler less of an evil?
: In fact, Virginia Woolf didn't mention Vita in her inspired-me thank list
: which made Vita's son pretty upset like he couldn't figure out why.
:
: to
many love affairs like this in human history. I won't try to judge them.
One can only be responsible for one's life. Trying to put morality onto
other people's life is hard.
does
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Vita Sackville got tired of Virginia Woolf pretty quickly. The latter was
: left devastated. It's true Vita inspired Virginia to write Orlando but does
: that make it right for her to do what she did? World War II inspired a lot
: of great literature and movies but does it make Hitler less of an evil?
: In fact, Virginia Woolf didn't mention Vita in her inspired-me thank list
: which made Vita's son pretty upset like he couldn't figure out why.
:
: to
s*n
36 楼
其实我以前也想的和酸奶差不多。 但是经历让我意识到,许多事情你是不能预测的,
很多情况是不能黑白分明的。关键是每个人的处境是差别很大的。 有些苦衷也许你根
本想不到。
最近看王小波的散文,我觉得王小波是真正的自由主义者, 他的观点和道德并不矛盾
,但是却非常宽容。 他看上去针砭时弊,实际是非常的辽阔自由,在人生不如意的时
候,看看王小波,真是高兴。
bothe
hasn'
for
thing
a
things
as
a
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Aight, here's my take. I'm not sure what the exact situation or puzzle bothe
: rs LZ since she only briefly said it. But one thing I know is that she hasn'
: t figured her life out yet. If you already have your life figured, good for
: you.
: Who wouldn't choose an easier life if there were a choice? living in a
: better world, where doing things without having their motives questioned or
: judged. However, life doesn't always go the way we plan out. Sometimes
: people fight it,try and keep things the same with others, not let it throw
: them off balance. Things can't go as we wish though, it's how we grow and
: learn. And it must be painful to LZ, as well as everyone else in many terms.
很多情况是不能黑白分明的。关键是每个人的处境是差别很大的。 有些苦衷也许你根
本想不到。
最近看王小波的散文,我觉得王小波是真正的自由主义者, 他的观点和道德并不矛盾
,但是却非常宽容。 他看上去针砭时弊,实际是非常的辽阔自由,在人生不如意的时
候,看看王小波,真是高兴。
bothe
hasn'
for
thing
a
things
as
a
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Aight, here's my take. I'm not sure what the exact situation or puzzle bothe
: rs LZ since she only briefly said it. But one thing I know is that she hasn'
: t figured her life out yet. If you already have your life figured, good for
: you.
: Who wouldn't choose an easier life if there were a choice? living in a
: better world, where doing things without having their motives questioned or
: judged. However, life doesn't always go the way we plan out. Sometimes
: people fight it,try and keep things the same with others, not let it throw
: them off balance. Things can't go as we wish though, it's how we grow and
: learn. And it must be painful to LZ, as well as everyone else in many terms.
s*n
37 楼
你说的不错。
bothe
hasn'
for
judged.
fight
balance.
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Aight, here's my take. I'm not sure what the exact situation or puzzle bothe
: rs LZ since she only briefly said it. But one thing I know is that she hasn'
: t figured her life out yet. If you already have your life figured, good for
: you.
: Who wouldn't choose an easier life if there were a choice? living in a
: better world, where doing things without having their motives questioned or
: judged. However, life doesn't always go the way we plan out. Sometimes
: people fight it,try and keep things the same with others, not let it throw
: them off balance. Things can't go as we wish though, it's how we grow and
: learn. And it must be painful to LZ, as well as everyone else in many terms.
bothe
hasn'
for
judged.
fight
balance.
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Aight, here's my take. I'm not sure what the exact situation or puzzle bothe
: rs LZ since she only briefly said it. But one thing I know is that she hasn'
: t figured her life out yet. If you already have your life figured, good for
: you.
: Who wouldn't choose an easier life if there were a choice? living in a
: better world, where doing things without having their motives questioned or
: judged. However, life doesn't always go the way we plan out. Sometimes
: people fight it,try and keep things the same with others, not let it throw
: them off balance. Things can't go as we wish though, it's how we grow and
: learn. And it must be painful to LZ, as well as everyone else in many terms.
s*n
38 楼
it is amazing... you watched all these erotic lesbian movies but still hold
pretty rigid morality. If you are truly so naive, maybe it is good for you
and I hope you will continue to enjoy your pure life. It is really a
blessing. I am serious. But not everyone could be this lucky.
does
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Vita Sackville got tired of Virginia Woolf pretty quickly. The latter was
: left devastated. It's true Vita inspired Virginia to write Orlando but does
: that make it right for her to do what she did? World War II inspired a lot
: of great literature and movies but does it make Hitler less of an evil?
: In fact, Virginia Woolf didn't mention Vita in her inspired-me thank list
: which made Vita's son pretty upset like he couldn't figure out why.
:
: to
pretty rigid morality. If you are truly so naive, maybe it is good for you
and I hope you will continue to enjoy your pure life. It is really a
blessing. I am serious. But not everyone could be this lucky.
does
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Vita Sackville got tired of Virginia Woolf pretty quickly. The latter was
: left devastated. It's true Vita inspired Virginia to write Orlando but does
: that make it right for her to do what she did? World War II inspired a lot
: of great literature and movies but does it make Hitler less of an evil?
: In fact, Virginia Woolf didn't mention Vita in her inspired-me thank list
: which made Vita's son pretty upset like he couldn't figure out why.
:
: to
e*h
40 楼
女人就是事多。 人家自个人的事。我们管得着嘛。
我觉的LZ这样最好找个和自己情况一样的。 不想离婚又想要女朋友的就好啦。这样的
应该有的。
我觉的LZ这样最好找个和自己情况一样的。 不想离婚又想要女朋友的就好啦。这样的
应该有的。
y*k
48 楼
You are missing my point.
First of all, you can't judge a person's moral ground based on whether they
watch erotic lesbian movies. Although in my case, it happens to true that I
love erotic lesbian movies and I'm also in NO way morally rigid.
If it's LZ's cup of tea to have sex with a woman while still married or even
having the husband watches or participates, good for her. I've gotta
nothing against it, whatsoever. In fact, if she records it and puts it up on
xtube, I might even grace the clip with 5 seconds of attention. But don't
look for your playmate in this board. LZ'll have better luck with Craigslist
.
You are blaming me for being not welcoming or tolerant enough. I'll tell you
what's going to happen if I do. Before you know it, some naive young T (for
the record, I don't regret using this term at all. You know how young
hearts are, especially T's. We think we are strong and capable of everything
. We think we can handle relationship with only sex like guys do. But the
truth is we often overestimate our "masculinity") falls for the trap. Put
aside the "eww" effect of having to share a V with a penis on a regular
basis or any of the hygienic concerns come with it, the young T will almost
certainly fall in love. If she pushes for more, she'll be fed the usual bs
of "I don't deserve you. You should go find someone else more like you. I
have a family. I can't break my family..." Yeah right, like she's doing a
favor to the T. Bollocks!
I kill every rat who dares set foot in my house. Does it make me intolerant
and not-welcoming? Hardly. If anything, I'm being protective of the young
and naive.
The bottom line is, you've gotta look at a person's intention. It makes all
the difference. A robbery hits upon you, you kill the robber. It's self
defense. Plan on killing someone and getting away with it, it's called
attempting murder. Fall in love with a woman by accident while still married
, though all parties involved still inevitably get hurt, is acceptable and
good for movies. Get out of your way to look for a lesbian love while
determined to stay married is one big rat I make my duty to sweep out of our
house.
hold
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: it is amazing... you watched all these erotic lesbian movies but still hold
: pretty rigid morality. If you are truly so naive, maybe it is good for you
: and I hope you will continue to enjoy your pure life. It is really a
: blessing. I am serious. But not everyone could be this lucky.
:
: does
First of all, you can't judge a person's moral ground based on whether they
watch erotic lesbian movies. Although in my case, it happens to true that I
love erotic lesbian movies and I'm also in NO way morally rigid.
If it's LZ's cup of tea to have sex with a woman while still married or even
having the husband watches or participates, good for her. I've gotta
nothing against it, whatsoever. In fact, if she records it and puts it up on
xtube, I might even grace the clip with 5 seconds of attention. But don't
look for your playmate in this board. LZ'll have better luck with Craigslist
.
You are blaming me for being not welcoming or tolerant enough. I'll tell you
what's going to happen if I do. Before you know it, some naive young T (for
the record, I don't regret using this term at all. You know how young
hearts are, especially T's. We think we are strong and capable of everything
. We think we can handle relationship with only sex like guys do. But the
truth is we often overestimate our "masculinity") falls for the trap. Put
aside the "eww" effect of having to share a V with a penis on a regular
basis or any of the hygienic concerns come with it, the young T will almost
certainly fall in love. If she pushes for more, she'll be fed the usual bs
of "I don't deserve you. You should go find someone else more like you. I
have a family. I can't break my family..." Yeah right, like she's doing a
favor to the T. Bollocks!
I kill every rat who dares set foot in my house. Does it make me intolerant
and not-welcoming? Hardly. If anything, I'm being protective of the young
and naive.
The bottom line is, you've gotta look at a person's intention. It makes all
the difference. A robbery hits upon you, you kill the robber. It's self
defense. Plan on killing someone and getting away with it, it's called
attempting murder. Fall in love with a woman by accident while still married
, though all parties involved still inevitably get hurt, is acceptable and
good for movies. Get out of your way to look for a lesbian love while
determined to stay married is one big rat I make my duty to sweep out of our
house.
hold
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: it is amazing... you watched all these erotic lesbian movies but still hold
: pretty rigid morality. If you are truly so naive, maybe it is good for you
: and I hope you will continue to enjoy your pure life. It is really a
: blessing. I am serious. But not everyone could be this lucky.
:
: does
z*e
49 楼
靠。。本来想跳进来看热闹的。。结果楼主已经跑了。。
我说,大家好歹阳谋一下,引蛇出动好勿啦
我说,大家好歹阳谋一下,引蛇出动好勿啦
c*e
50 楼
but looks like you already have their life story ploted.
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: You are missing my point.
: First of all, you can't judge a person's moral ground based on whether they
: watch erotic lesbian movies. Although in my case, it happens to true that I
: love erotic lesbian movies and I'm also in NO way morally rigid.
: If it's LZ's cup of tea to have sex with a woman while still married or even
: having the husband watches or participates, good for her. I've gotta
: nothing against it, whatsoever. In fact, if she records it and puts it up on
: xtube, I might even grace the clip with 5 seconds of attention. But don't
: look for your playmate in this board. LZ'll have better luck with Craigslist
: .
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: You are missing my point.
: First of all, you can't judge a person's moral ground based on whether they
: watch erotic lesbian movies. Although in my case, it happens to true that I
: love erotic lesbian movies and I'm also in NO way morally rigid.
: If it's LZ's cup of tea to have sex with a woman while still married or even
: having the husband watches or participates, good for her. I've gotta
: nothing against it, whatsoever. In fact, if she records it and puts it up on
: xtube, I might even grace the clip with 5 seconds of attention. But don't
: look for your playmate in this board. LZ'll have better luck with Craigslist
: .
L*y
51 楼
就算你 *推测* 的楼主的目的是对的,"young & naive" 的T真的需要你的保护吗?说
不定人家各取所需。说不定过度保护反而推迟了成熟所必须经历的伤害。
they
I
even
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.7
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: You are missing my point.
: First of all, you can't judge a person's moral ground based on whether they
: watch erotic lesbian movies. Although in my case, it happens to true that I
: love erotic lesbian movies and I'm also in NO way morally rigid.
: If it's LZ's cup of tea to have sex with a woman while still married or even
: having the husband watches or participates, good for her. I've gotta
: nothing against it, whatsoever. In fact, if she records it and puts it up on
: xtube, I might even grace the clip with 5 seconds of attention. But don't
: look for your playmate in this board. LZ'll have better luck with Craigslist
: .
不定人家各取所需。说不定过度保护反而推迟了成熟所必须经历的伤害。
they
I
even
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.7
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: You are missing my point.
: First of all, you can't judge a person's moral ground based on whether they
: watch erotic lesbian movies. Although in my case, it happens to true that I
: love erotic lesbian movies and I'm also in NO way morally rigid.
: If it's LZ's cup of tea to have sex with a woman while still married or even
: having the husband watches or participates, good for her. I've gotta
: nothing against it, whatsoever. In fact, if she records it and puts it up on
: xtube, I might even grace the clip with 5 seconds of attention. But don't
: look for your playmate in this board. LZ'll have better luck with Craigslist
: .
T*k
52 楼
n*h
70 楼
就知道这帖子会发展成道德争论帖
这世上有太多界定的“因该”和“不因该”,自己的事情自己做主吧
这世上有太多界定的“因该”和“不因该”,自己的事情自己做主吧
r*x
71 楼
没想到这个贴这么热闹,
不管你们是谅解还是鄙视,
事实上和我处境类似的,不少,
我已婚很多年了,一起生活的很和谐。
我也是婚后才知道自己也喜欢女人,具体原因就不说了,每个人都有自己的故事。
我不否认我是双,但自从喜欢上女人之后,我便不能接受男人了,唯一例外的,是老公。
如果时间能退回到结婚前,我当然想走一回义无反顾的les之路。
如今,我一直感到遗憾,心里有些空虚,
我想要个女人,可以沁我心脾,不用在一起,有一个精神寄托就可以。
呵呵,你们要说我是精神出轨,我也认了。
男人很难走进女人心里,很难懂女人想要什么。
不管你们是谅解还是鄙视,
事实上和我处境类似的,不少,
我已婚很多年了,一起生活的很和谐。
我也是婚后才知道自己也喜欢女人,具体原因就不说了,每个人都有自己的故事。
我不否认我是双,但自从喜欢上女人之后,我便不能接受男人了,唯一例外的,是老公。
如果时间能退回到结婚前,我当然想走一回义无反顾的les之路。
如今,我一直感到遗憾,心里有些空虚,
我想要个女人,可以沁我心脾,不用在一起,有一个精神寄托就可以。
呵呵,你们要说我是精神出轨,我也认了。
男人很难走进女人心里,很难懂女人想要什么。
n*h
72 楼
菇凉,你刚来发帖我就猜出7,8分了,虽然寥寥数语。
如果你能明确知道自己要什么,便可。
我和你情况相似,不同的是,我遇到了让我动心的人,她也是已婚。以前在这里发过帖
子,盖了栋高楼,后来我申请删除了,不是因为被拍,相反这里有一些很是善解人意的
女子,只是觉得自己的故事,还是不要挂在这么大的论坛上招摇。
预防针:有些事情,别人不明白不理解的,不用去说服别人,理解的自然会理解,跟个
人经历有关。
公。
【在 r**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 没想到这个贴这么热闹,
: 不管你们是谅解还是鄙视,
: 事实上和我处境类似的,不少,
: 我已婚很多年了,一起生活的很和谐。
: 我也是婚后才知道自己也喜欢女人,具体原因就不说了,每个人都有自己的故事。
: 我不否认我是双,但自从喜欢上女人之后,我便不能接受男人了,唯一例外的,是老公。
: 如果时间能退回到结婚前,我当然想走一回义无反顾的les之路。
: 如今,我一直感到遗憾,心里有些空虚,
: 我想要个女人,可以沁我心脾,不用在一起,有一个精神寄托就可以。
: 呵呵,你们要说我是精神出轨,我也认了。
如果你能明确知道自己要什么,便可。
我和你情况相似,不同的是,我遇到了让我动心的人,她也是已婚。以前在这里发过帖
子,盖了栋高楼,后来我申请删除了,不是因为被拍,相反这里有一些很是善解人意的
女子,只是觉得自己的故事,还是不要挂在这么大的论坛上招摇。
预防针:有些事情,别人不明白不理解的,不用去说服别人,理解的自然会理解,跟个
人经历有关。
公。
【在 r**x 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 没想到这个贴这么热闹,
: 不管你们是谅解还是鄙视,
: 事实上和我处境类似的,不少,
: 我已婚很多年了,一起生活的很和谐。
: 我也是婚后才知道自己也喜欢女人,具体原因就不说了,每个人都有自己的故事。
: 我不否认我是双,但自从喜欢上女人之后,我便不能接受男人了,唯一例外的,是老公。
: 如果时间能退回到结婚前,我当然想走一回义无反顾的les之路。
: 如今,我一直感到遗憾,心里有些空虚,
: 我想要个女人,可以沁我心脾,不用在一起,有一个精神寄托就可以。
: 呵呵,你们要说我是精神出轨,我也认了。
w*t
74 楼
人吧,都是有得有失的
可以幻想啥都拥有
不能全都拥有恰恰因为啥都想占着是不可能的
【在 r**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 没想到这个贴这么热闹,
: 不管你们是谅解还是鄙视,
: 事实上和我处境类似的,不少,
: 我已婚很多年了,一起生活的很和谐。
: 我也是婚后才知道自己也喜欢女人,具体原因就不说了,每个人都有自己的故事。
: 我不否认我是双,但自从喜欢上女人之后,我便不能接受男人了,唯一例外的,是老公。
: 如果时间能退回到结婚前,我当然想走一回义无反顾的les之路。
: 如今,我一直感到遗憾,心里有些空虚,
: 我想要个女人,可以沁我心脾,不用在一起,有一个精神寄托就可以。
: 呵呵,你们要说我是精神出轨,我也认了。
可以幻想啥都拥有
不能全都拥有恰恰因为啥都想占着是不可能的
【在 r**x 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 没想到这个贴这么热闹,
: 不管你们是谅解还是鄙视,
: 事实上和我处境类似的,不少,
: 我已婚很多年了,一起生活的很和谐。
: 我也是婚后才知道自己也喜欢女人,具体原因就不说了,每个人都有自己的故事。
: 我不否认我是双,但自从喜欢上女人之后,我便不能接受男人了,唯一例外的,是老公。
: 如果时间能退回到结婚前,我当然想走一回义无反顾的les之路。
: 如今,我一直感到遗憾,心里有些空虚,
: 我想要个女人,可以沁我心脾,不用在一起,有一个精神寄托就可以。
: 呵呵,你们要说我是精神出轨,我也认了。
g*1
96 楼
不是我打击你,跟女人在一起问题也很多,说不定还觉得男人更好了。既然你能接受老
公,看样子他人也不错,好好经营吧。不管男女,找到和谐的都很难。你对女人的情感
属于蜜月期,当然很美好。
要不去tianya看看les小说?
公。
【在 r**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 没想到这个贴这么热闹,
: 不管你们是谅解还是鄙视,
: 事实上和我处境类似的,不少,
: 我已婚很多年了,一起生活的很和谐。
: 我也是婚后才知道自己也喜欢女人,具体原因就不说了,每个人都有自己的故事。
: 我不否认我是双,但自从喜欢上女人之后,我便不能接受男人了,唯一例外的,是老公。
: 如果时间能退回到结婚前,我当然想走一回义无反顾的les之路。
: 如今,我一直感到遗憾,心里有些空虚,
: 我想要个女人,可以沁我心脾,不用在一起,有一个精神寄托就可以。
: 呵呵,你们要说我是精神出轨,我也认了。
公,看样子他人也不错,好好经营吧。不管男女,找到和谐的都很难。你对女人的情感
属于蜜月期,当然很美好。
要不去tianya看看les小说?
公。
【在 r**x 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 没想到这个贴这么热闹,
: 不管你们是谅解还是鄙视,
: 事实上和我处境类似的,不少,
: 我已婚很多年了,一起生活的很和谐。
: 我也是婚后才知道自己也喜欢女人,具体原因就不说了,每个人都有自己的故事。
: 我不否认我是双,但自从喜欢上女人之后,我便不能接受男人了,唯一例外的,是老公。
: 如果时间能退回到结婚前,我当然想走一回义无反顾的les之路。
: 如今,我一直感到遗憾,心里有些空虚,
: 我想要个女人,可以沁我心脾,不用在一起,有一个精神寄托就可以。
: 呵呵,你们要说我是精神出轨,我也认了。
r*x
109 楼
大家随便说没有关系
我也觉得自己这么做不好
但就是奢望遇到一个能理解的人呢
和我一样,已婚,
似闺蜜,无话不说,
互相分享各自的生活,相互鼓励
但也不会介意,有亲密的接触,
情到深处,一切都会自然而然
我也觉得自己这么做不好
但就是奢望遇到一个能理解的人呢
和我一样,已婚,
似闺蜜,无话不说,
互相分享各自的生活,相互鼓励
但也不会介意,有亲密的接触,
情到深处,一切都会自然而然
h*a
110 楼
己所不欲勿施于人。如果你能完全接受你丈夫在隔壁版发这样的帖子,有这样的想法,
继续做你想做的。
公。
【在 r**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 没想到这个贴这么热闹,
: 不管你们是谅解还是鄙视,
: 事实上和我处境类似的,不少,
: 我已婚很多年了,一起生活的很和谐。
: 我也是婚后才知道自己也喜欢女人,具体原因就不说了,每个人都有自己的故事。
: 我不否认我是双,但自从喜欢上女人之后,我便不能接受男人了,唯一例外的,是老公。
: 如果时间能退回到结婚前,我当然想走一回义无反顾的les之路。
: 如今,我一直感到遗憾,心里有些空虚,
: 我想要个女人,可以沁我心脾,不用在一起,有一个精神寄托就可以。
: 呵呵,你们要说我是精神出轨,我也认了。
继续做你想做的。
公。
【在 r**x 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 没想到这个贴这么热闹,
: 不管你们是谅解还是鄙视,
: 事实上和我处境类似的,不少,
: 我已婚很多年了,一起生活的很和谐。
: 我也是婚后才知道自己也喜欢女人,具体原因就不说了,每个人都有自己的故事。
: 我不否认我是双,但自从喜欢上女人之后,我便不能接受男人了,唯一例外的,是老公。
: 如果时间能退回到结婚前,我当然想走一回义无反顾的les之路。
: 如今,我一直感到遗憾,心里有些空虚,
: 我想要个女人,可以沁我心脾,不用在一起,有一个精神寄托就可以。
: 呵呵,你们要说我是精神出轨,我也认了。
e*e
117 楼
看了三年前的帖子,发现三年来我自己思想没什么改变嘛。。。
其实lz还挺诚实的,至少承认自己对家庭的态度,没给人false expectation。
每个人心里有有些不decent的想法,挺正常的。
在达到稳态之前,肯定要经过一些不稳态,
我真想看看第二集,第三集。结果每次第一集刚播出,大家就吵成一团了。。。
其实lz还挺诚实的,至少承认自己对家庭的态度,没给人false expectation。
每个人心里有有些不decent的想法,挺正常的。
在达到稳态之前,肯定要经过一些不稳态,
我真想看看第二集,第三集。结果每次第一集刚播出,大家就吵成一团了。。。
r*x
132 楼
我不太懂你们在说什么
可以说的直接一点吗?
可以说的直接一点吗?
w*t
154 楼
http://www.nipic.com/show/3/15/97f8c6e8f8ab92a7.html
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 给爷笑一个
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 给爷笑一个
c*e
155 楼
真乖 老人家牙口不错
【在 w****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: http://www.nipic.com/show/3/15/97f8c6e8f8ab92a7.html
【在 w****t 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: http://www.nipic.com/show/3/15/97f8c6e8f8ab92a7.html
e*e
157 楼
怎么没有人来讲自己的故事嘛。。。
S*a
160 楼
花脚猫mm,你讲的真是太好了,鼓掌!
c*e
163 楼
自己没有香艳的drama可讲 拿别人的故事来凑个数
我一个熟人 暂称B 一般crush on someone who's taken的反应都是stay away, move o
n, and wish herself g'luck on next one. 但机缘巧合B遇到了S,两人从一开始便相
谈甚欢 一见如故,用B的原话就是I knew there was sth. I had a feeling. 不过当时
两人各自都在relationship当中 B有女友 S也和男友Y在一起 并有其他诸事忙碌 没有保
持什么联系
大约一年后 B已是单身 出席朋友的b-day party 又遇到了S以及其fiance Y 在after p
arty上B喝大了 对S说出一年前就对其crush S只是回道 "cool, I'm flattered." 由于
醉了,B顺嘴跟了一句 "you should be, cuz I'm HOT." (作为旁人的我一直很诧异,
B看我眼里和hot不沾边,最多是个cute dork, S听到了竟然没被turn off)那晚S和Y把
B送回了家 不久之后他们还有其他朋友一起去camping时 B了解到Y是个很好的男生 两人
也成了很好的朋友 B说如果拿自己和Y比较 她最多做到Y的90% 尽管如此 B和S的关系还
是越来越紧密 甚至周围朋友都看出来了 一天晚上B和S单独去了市区的gay town 路人都
以为她们是一对 她们自己也不想去更正 两人手挽手 相拥着坐在街头许久 后来B告诉了
S对她的falling in love. S望着B问“那我们怎么办?”B顿了一下说“nothing.”B不
想S cheating on Y.
之后两人依然像以前一样做朋友 只是不再单独出行 一般都和Y还有其他朋友一起 B没有
觉得有什么不同 除了Y每次努力表现出得relaxed
最后一次他们一起喝酒到临晨 B和其他朋友去S家借宿 S和Y不知为何有些小争执 Y那晚
没有与其余人一起回S家 而是回了自己家 S当着所有人的面说“B,you can come slee
p in my room with me.”B装傻了一下没有去 第二天清晨S把睡梦中的B叫醒并给她了一
个大大的拥抱 然后说good-bye 她们没有再见过面 when it comes to relationship,
one is always protective and possesive of their partner. and it's not any on
e's best interest to allow the conjugal to cheat with you. It's not worth it
for her to do so. Plus Y is a great guy, they have been together for so lon
g.
摘一段别人的话:这么多年共同经营的那种相濡以沫谁也代替不了,即使自己很优秀也
很幸运,遇到另一个人并在一起,用心花时间去形成这种默契,那又如何,在这之前已
有了这种幸福,而且这是best scenario. 何必放弃了那么多年的感情也只是再去追求一
个未知数。人很贪婪,有了爱情还不够,还要激情,不安于那种心境如水的生活,老想
折腾出点浪花来证明自己还沸腾,但是任何激情四射都是归于波澜不兴,婚姻的实质就
是平平淡淡,所有的激情早晚有一天会退下去,但不是所有的激情都有造化变成爱情,
在转化成那种相濡以沫的亲情更是少之又少,这剩下来的这个才是这正的爱,有一得必
有一失,掂量掂量,自己眼下的生活和身边那个人,自己是不是生活在幸福当中,如果
觉得幸福在握,就把他/她攥紧,别弄丢了,别学狗熊掰棒子!
【在 e*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 怎么没有人来讲自己的故事嘛。。。
我一个熟人 暂称B 一般crush on someone who's taken的反应都是stay away, move o
n, and wish herself g'luck on next one. 但机缘巧合B遇到了S,两人从一开始便相
谈甚欢 一见如故,用B的原话就是I knew there was sth. I had a feeling. 不过当时
两人各自都在relationship当中 B有女友 S也和男友Y在一起 并有其他诸事忙碌 没有保
持什么联系
大约一年后 B已是单身 出席朋友的b-day party 又遇到了S以及其fiance Y 在after p
arty上B喝大了 对S说出一年前就对其crush S只是回道 "cool, I'm flattered." 由于
醉了,B顺嘴跟了一句 "you should be, cuz I'm HOT." (作为旁人的我一直很诧异,
B看我眼里和hot不沾边,最多是个cute dork, S听到了竟然没被turn off)那晚S和Y把
B送回了家 不久之后他们还有其他朋友一起去camping时 B了解到Y是个很好的男生 两人
也成了很好的朋友 B说如果拿自己和Y比较 她最多做到Y的90% 尽管如此 B和S的关系还
是越来越紧密 甚至周围朋友都看出来了 一天晚上B和S单独去了市区的gay town 路人都
以为她们是一对 她们自己也不想去更正 两人手挽手 相拥着坐在街头许久 后来B告诉了
S对她的falling in love. S望着B问“那我们怎么办?”B顿了一下说“nothing.”B不
想S cheating on Y.
之后两人依然像以前一样做朋友 只是不再单独出行 一般都和Y还有其他朋友一起 B没有
觉得有什么不同 除了Y每次努力表现出得relaxed
最后一次他们一起喝酒到临晨 B和其他朋友去S家借宿 S和Y不知为何有些小争执 Y那晚
没有与其余人一起回S家 而是回了自己家 S当着所有人的面说“B,you can come slee
p in my room with me.”B装傻了一下没有去 第二天清晨S把睡梦中的B叫醒并给她了一
个大大的拥抱 然后说good-bye 她们没有再见过面 when it comes to relationship,
one is always protective and possesive of their partner. and it's not any on
e's best interest to allow the conjugal to cheat with you. It's not worth it
for her to do so. Plus Y is a great guy, they have been together for so lon
g.
摘一段别人的话:这么多年共同经营的那种相濡以沫谁也代替不了,即使自己很优秀也
很幸运,遇到另一个人并在一起,用心花时间去形成这种默契,那又如何,在这之前已
有了这种幸福,而且这是best scenario. 何必放弃了那么多年的感情也只是再去追求一
个未知数。人很贪婪,有了爱情还不够,还要激情,不安于那种心境如水的生活,老想
折腾出点浪花来证明自己还沸腾,但是任何激情四射都是归于波澜不兴,婚姻的实质就
是平平淡淡,所有的激情早晚有一天会退下去,但不是所有的激情都有造化变成爱情,
在转化成那种相濡以沫的亲情更是少之又少,这剩下来的这个才是这正的爱,有一得必
有一失,掂量掂量,自己眼下的生活和身边那个人,自己是不是生活在幸福当中,如果
觉得幸福在握,就把他/她攥紧,别弄丢了,别学狗熊掰棒子!
【在 e*******e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 怎么没有人来讲自己的故事嘛。。。
g*1
164 楼
赞故事,这结局不错
1. 括号内有亮点
2. Y我老看成丫。。
o
当时
有保
p
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 自己没有香艳的drama可讲 拿别人的故事来凑个数
: 我一个熟人 暂称B 一般crush on someone who's taken的反应都是stay away, move o
: n, and wish herself g'luck on next one. 但机缘巧合B遇到了S,两人从一开始便相
: 谈甚欢 一见如故,用B的原话就是I knew there was sth. I had a feeling. 不过当时
: 两人各自都在relationship当中 B有女友 S也和男友Y在一起 并有其他诸事忙碌 没有保
: 持什么联系
: 大约一年后 B已是单身 出席朋友的b-day party 又遇到了S以及其fiance Y 在after p
: arty上B喝大了 对S说出一年前就对其crush S只是回道 "cool, I'm flattered." 由于
: 醉了,B顺嘴跟了一句 "you should be, cuz I'm HOT." (作为旁人的我一直很诧异,
: B看我眼里和hot不沾边,最多是个cute dork, S听到了竟然没被turn off)那晚S和Y把
1. 括号内有亮点
2. Y我老看成丫。。
o
当时
有保
p
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 自己没有香艳的drama可讲 拿别人的故事来凑个数
: 我一个熟人 暂称B 一般crush on someone who's taken的反应都是stay away, move o
: n, and wish herself g'luck on next one. 但机缘巧合B遇到了S,两人从一开始便相
: 谈甚欢 一见如故,用B的原话就是I knew there was sth. I had a feeling. 不过当时
: 两人各自都在relationship当中 B有女友 S也和男友Y在一起 并有其他诸事忙碌 没有保
: 持什么联系
: 大约一年后 B已是单身 出席朋友的b-day party 又遇到了S以及其fiance Y 在after p
: arty上B喝大了 对S说出一年前就对其crush S只是回道 "cool, I'm flattered." 由于
: 醉了,B顺嘴跟了一句 "you should be, cuz I'm HOT." (作为旁人的我一直很诧异,
: B看我眼里和hot不沾边,最多是个cute dork, S听到了竟然没被turn off)那晚S和Y把
L*y
170 楼
B很可爱!
o
当时
有保
p
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 自己没有香艳的drama可讲 拿别人的故事来凑个数
: 我一个熟人 暂称B 一般crush on someone who's taken的反应都是stay away, move o
: n, and wish herself g'luck on next one. 但机缘巧合B遇到了S,两人从一开始便相
: 谈甚欢 一见如故,用B的原话就是I knew there was sth. I had a feeling. 不过当时
: 两人各自都在relationship当中 B有女友 S也和男友Y在一起 并有其他诸事忙碌 没有保
: 持什么联系
: 大约一年后 B已是单身 出席朋友的b-day party 又遇到了S以及其fiance Y 在after p
: arty上B喝大了 对S说出一年前就对其crush S只是回道 "cool, I'm flattered." 由于
: 醉了,B顺嘴跟了一句 "you should be, cuz I'm HOT." (作为旁人的我一直很诧异,
: B看我眼里和hot不沾边,最多是个cute dork, S听到了竟然没被turn off)那晚S和Y把
o
当时
有保
p
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 自己没有香艳的drama可讲 拿别人的故事来凑个数
: 我一个熟人 暂称B 一般crush on someone who's taken的反应都是stay away, move o
: n, and wish herself g'luck on next one. 但机缘巧合B遇到了S,两人从一开始便相
: 谈甚欢 一见如故,用B的原话就是I knew there was sth. I had a feeling. 不过当时
: 两人各自都在relationship当中 B有女友 S也和男友Y在一起 并有其他诸事忙碌 没有保
: 持什么联系
: 大约一年后 B已是单身 出席朋友的b-day party 又遇到了S以及其fiance Y 在after p
: arty上B喝大了 对S说出一年前就对其crush S只是回道 "cool, I'm flattered." 由于
: 醉了,B顺嘴跟了一句 "you should be, cuz I'm HOT." (作为旁人的我一直很诧异,
: B看我眼里和hot不沾边,最多是个cute dork, S听到了竟然没被turn off)那晚S和Y把
R*G
173 楼
好良言难劝该死鬼。
这种小三小四的游戏中,青春美丽永远是王道
多拿镜子照照自己,若你真是倾国倾城,如何能沦落到需要纠结需要cheating? -----何
不仿埃及艳后,让情敌自己去争宠?
若长的很普通,洗洗睡吧。白日梦做多了不好。---------没办法,生活本来就是不
公平的。
这种小三小四的游戏中,青春美丽永远是王道
多拿镜子照照自己,若你真是倾国倾城,如何能沦落到需要纠结需要cheating? -----何
不仿埃及艳后,让情敌自己去争宠?
若长的很普通,洗洗睡吧。白日梦做多了不好。---------没办法,生活本来就是不
公平的。
R*G
174 楼
另外,纠正一点。Vita同学是花心大少,且男女通吃,不过,她至少保留了不cheating的
reputation。她和Harold本来就是开放婚姻,也从没承诺过要和Woolf同学白头谐老。
---------她初恋给了Violet,却遭背叛,至此以后,她的心有了安放之所,所以反
而得到了自由。
reputation。她和Harold本来就是开放婚姻,也从没承诺过要和Woolf同学白头谐老。
---------她初恋给了Violet,却遭背叛,至此以后,她的心有了安放之所,所以反
而得到了自由。
e*h
179 楼
好孩子, 摸摸你。
B难得啊。
that is what we should all do i think but truth is just a handful can do
what B did. ppl are so selfish to a extend that i just can not comprehend.
可能因为LZ是陌生人。我都没什么情绪。因为觉得THAT IS HOW THE WORLD IS。
o
当时
有保
p
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 自己没有香艳的drama可讲 拿别人的故事来凑个数
: 我一个熟人 暂称B 一般crush on someone who's taken的反应都是stay away, move o
: n, and wish herself g'luck on next one. 但机缘巧合B遇到了S,两人从一开始便相
: 谈甚欢 一见如故,用B的原话就是I knew there was sth. I had a feeling. 不过当时
: 两人各自都在relationship当中 B有女友 S也和男友Y在一起 并有其他诸事忙碌 没有保
: 持什么联系
: 大约一年后 B已是单身 出席朋友的b-day party 又遇到了S以及其fiance Y 在after p
: arty上B喝大了 对S说出一年前就对其crush S只是回道 "cool, I'm flattered." 由于
: 醉了,B顺嘴跟了一句 "you should be, cuz I'm HOT." (作为旁人的我一直很诧异,
: B看我眼里和hot不沾边,最多是个cute dork, S听到了竟然没被turn off)那晚S和Y把
B难得啊。
that is what we should all do i think but truth is just a handful can do
what B did. ppl are so selfish to a extend that i just can not comprehend.
可能因为LZ是陌生人。我都没什么情绪。因为觉得THAT IS HOW THE WORLD IS。
o
当时
有保
p
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 自己没有香艳的drama可讲 拿别人的故事来凑个数
: 我一个熟人 暂称B 一般crush on someone who's taken的反应都是stay away, move o
: n, and wish herself g'luck on next one. 但机缘巧合B遇到了S,两人从一开始便相
: 谈甚欢 一见如故,用B的原话就是I knew there was sth. I had a feeling. 不过当时
: 两人各自都在relationship当中 B有女友 S也和男友Y在一起 并有其他诸事忙碌 没有保
: 持什么联系
: 大约一年后 B已是单身 出席朋友的b-day party 又遇到了S以及其fiance Y 在after p
: arty上B喝大了 对S说出一年前就对其crush S只是回道 "cool, I'm flattered." 由于
: 醉了,B顺嘴跟了一句 "you should be, cuz I'm HOT." (作为旁人的我一直很诧异,
: B看我眼里和hot不沾边,最多是个cute dork, S听到了竟然没被turn off)那晚S和Y把
s*n
181 楼
"Get out of your way to look for a lesbian love while
determined to stay married is one big rat I make my duty to sweep out of our
house."
Not sure if LZ is that determined..... She is just not sure at this moment.
I guess you are principled. But i still would not quickly judge others'
situation.
they
I
even
on
Craigslist
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: You are missing my point.
: First of all, you can't judge a person's moral ground based on whether they
: watch erotic lesbian movies. Although in my case, it happens to true that I
: love erotic lesbian movies and I'm also in NO way morally rigid.
: If it's LZ's cup of tea to have sex with a woman while still married or even
: having the husband watches or participates, good for her. I've gotta
: nothing against it, whatsoever. In fact, if she records it and puts it up on
: xtube, I might even grace the clip with 5 seconds of attention. But don't
: look for your playmate in this board. LZ'll have better luck with Craigslist
: .
determined to stay married is one big rat I make my duty to sweep out of our
house."
Not sure if LZ is that determined..... She is just not sure at this moment.
I guess you are principled. But i still would not quickly judge others'
situation.
they
I
even
on
Craigslist
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: You are missing my point.
: First of all, you can't judge a person's moral ground based on whether they
: watch erotic lesbian movies. Although in my case, it happens to true that I
: love erotic lesbian movies and I'm also in NO way morally rigid.
: If it's LZ's cup of tea to have sex with a woman while still married or even
: having the husband watches or participates, good for her. I've gotta
: nothing against it, whatsoever. In fact, if she records it and puts it up on
: xtube, I might even grace the clip with 5 seconds of attention. But don't
: look for your playmate in this board. LZ'll have better luck with Craigslist
: .
a*7
185 楼
虽然没有过亲密身体接触,但S算是精神出轨了吧?
假如B是个男人的话,Y绝对不会那样大度
o
当时
有保
p
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 自己没有香艳的drama可讲 拿别人的故事来凑个数
: 我一个熟人 暂称B 一般crush on someone who's taken的反应都是stay away, move o
: n, and wish herself g'luck on next one. 但机缘巧合B遇到了S,两人从一开始便相
: 谈甚欢 一见如故,用B的原话就是I knew there was sth. I had a feeling. 不过当时
: 两人各自都在relationship当中 B有女友 S也和男友Y在一起 并有其他诸事忙碌 没有保
: 持什么联系
: 大约一年后 B已是单身 出席朋友的b-day party 又遇到了S以及其fiance Y 在after p
: arty上B喝大了 对S说出一年前就对其crush S只是回道 "cool, I'm flattered." 由于
: 醉了,B顺嘴跟了一句 "you should be, cuz I'm HOT." (作为旁人的我一直很诧异,
: B看我眼里和hot不沾边,最多是个cute dork, S听到了竟然没被turn off)那晚S和Y把
假如B是个男人的话,Y绝对不会那样大度
o
当时
有保
p
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 自己没有香艳的drama可讲 拿别人的故事来凑个数
: 我一个熟人 暂称B 一般crush on someone who's taken的反应都是stay away, move o
: n, and wish herself g'luck on next one. 但机缘巧合B遇到了S,两人从一开始便相
: 谈甚欢 一见如故,用B的原话就是I knew there was sth. I had a feeling. 不过当时
: 两人各自都在relationship当中 B有女友 S也和男友Y在一起 并有其他诸事忙碌 没有保
: 持什么联系
: 大约一年后 B已是单身 出席朋友的b-day party 又遇到了S以及其fiance Y 在after p
: arty上B喝大了 对S说出一年前就对其crush S只是回道 "cool, I'm flattered." 由于
: 醉了,B顺嘴跟了一句 "you should be, cuz I'm HOT." (作为旁人的我一直很诧异,
: B看我眼里和hot不沾边,最多是个cute dork, S听到了竟然没被turn off)那晚S和Y把
s*n
186 楼
在我眼里, 任何爱情都是美好的, 是不是能长久, 是缘分。珍惜心动的感觉。。。
如果不能实现,化成对艺术和对生活的爱和激情。。。
爱情和道德一点关系。
但是婚姻不一样。 她不仅是爱情,还有比爱情更深更长久的联系。。 和一个人厮守真
实可欲不可求的最美好的事情。
o
当时
有保
p
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 自己没有香艳的drama可讲 拿别人的故事来凑个数
: 我一个熟人 暂称B 一般crush on someone who's taken的反应都是stay away, move o
: n, and wish herself g'luck on next one. 但机缘巧合B遇到了S,两人从一开始便相
: 谈甚欢 一见如故,用B的原话就是I knew there was sth. I had a feeling. 不过当时
: 两人各自都在relationship当中 B有女友 S也和男友Y在一起 并有其他诸事忙碌 没有保
: 持什么联系
: 大约一年后 B已是单身 出席朋友的b-day party 又遇到了S以及其fiance Y 在after p
: arty上B喝大了 对S说出一年前就对其crush S只是回道 "cool, I'm flattered." 由于
: 醉了,B顺嘴跟了一句 "you should be, cuz I'm HOT." (作为旁人的我一直很诧异,
: B看我眼里和hot不沾边,最多是个cute dork, S听到了竟然没被turn off)那晚S和Y把
如果不能实现,化成对艺术和对生活的爱和激情。。。
爱情和道德一点关系。
但是婚姻不一样。 她不仅是爱情,还有比爱情更深更长久的联系。。 和一个人厮守真
实可欲不可求的最美好的事情。
o
当时
有保
p
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 自己没有香艳的drama可讲 拿别人的故事来凑个数
: 我一个熟人 暂称B 一般crush on someone who's taken的反应都是stay away, move o
: n, and wish herself g'luck on next one. 但机缘巧合B遇到了S,两人从一开始便相
: 谈甚欢 一见如故,用B的原话就是I knew there was sth. I had a feeling. 不过当时
: 两人各自都在relationship当中 B有女友 S也和男友Y在一起 并有其他诸事忙碌 没有保
: 持什么联系
: 大约一年后 B已是单身 出席朋友的b-day party 又遇到了S以及其fiance Y 在after p
: arty上B喝大了 对S说出一年前就对其crush S只是回道 "cool, I'm flattered." 由于
: 醉了,B顺嘴跟了一句 "you should be, cuz I'm HOT." (作为旁人的我一直很诧异,
: B看我眼里和hot不沾边,最多是个cute dork, S听到了竟然没被turn off)那晚S和Y把
e*h
188 楼
艾玛。 你这么激动。
难道你曾是some naive young T ?
RUN .....
they
I
even
on
Craigslist
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: You are missing my point.
: First of all, you can't judge a person's moral ground based on whether they
: watch erotic lesbian movies. Although in my case, it happens to true that I
: love erotic lesbian movies and I'm also in NO way morally rigid.
: If it's LZ's cup of tea to have sex with a woman while still married or even
: having the husband watches or participates, good for her. I've gotta
: nothing against it, whatsoever. In fact, if she records it and puts it up on
: xtube, I might even grace the clip with 5 seconds of attention. But don't
: look for your playmate in this board. LZ'll have better luck with Craigslist
: .
难道你曾是some naive young T ?
RUN .....
they
I
even
on
Craigslist
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: You are missing my point.
: First of all, you can't judge a person's moral ground based on whether they
: watch erotic lesbian movies. Although in my case, it happens to true that I
: love erotic lesbian movies and I'm also in NO way morally rigid.
: If it's LZ's cup of tea to have sex with a woman while still married or even
: having the husband watches or participates, good for her. I've gotta
: nothing against it, whatsoever. In fact, if she records it and puts it up on
: xtube, I might even grace the clip with 5 seconds of attention. But don't
: look for your playmate in this board. LZ'll have better luck with Craigslist
: .
y*k
199 楼
I'm emotional not because I have been an victim. In fact, my story has a
good ending. I'm emotional because I personally know of Ts who took their
hearts out for some married women only were left broken into pieces.
【在 e***h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 艾玛。 你这么激动。
: 难道你曾是some naive young T ?
: RUN .....
:
: they
: I
: even
: on
: Craigslist
good ending. I'm emotional because I personally know of Ts who took their
hearts out for some married women only were left broken into pieces.
【在 e***h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 艾玛。 你这么激动。
: 难道你曾是some naive young T ?
: RUN .....
:
: they
: I
: even
: on
: Craigslist
R*G
200 楼
你真是个拎不清。呵呵。 Woolf也是开放婚姻,所以,也不是cheater。
其实,我对MULTIGAMY没什么感觉。我朋友中有这么样的万人迷,周围好几个围着为
她争风吃醋,却又能相安无事。---------因为她一早示下,这个是你情我愿,哪个
如果独占欲太强,就只有立刻出局。
但是,对于普通人来说,保持小三小四,很多人靠的是CHEATING。天涯中的那些已
婚拉拉,大部分人都这样。若是她们的老公知道了,死活不肯离婚指天画地表忠心
的,也是她们。
cheater就没什么好说了,贱就一个字。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 你们为什么不说WOOLF 自己也是结了婚的女人,但同时渴望女人的爱,但是也同时维系
: 了婚姻。
:
: cheating的
其实,我对MULTIGAMY没什么感觉。我朋友中有这么样的万人迷,周围好几个围着为
她争风吃醋,却又能相安无事。---------因为她一早示下,这个是你情我愿,哪个
如果独占欲太强,就只有立刻出局。
但是,对于普通人来说,保持小三小四,很多人靠的是CHEATING。天涯中的那些已
婚拉拉,大部分人都这样。若是她们的老公知道了,死活不肯离婚指天画地表忠心
的,也是她们。
cheater就没什么好说了,贱就一个字。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 你们为什么不说WOOLF 自己也是结了婚的女人,但同时渴望女人的爱,但是也同时维系
: 了婚姻。
:
: cheating的
e*h
203 楼
理解。理解。我也一样,我恨不得那刀伦了cheaters.
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I'm emotional not because I have been an victim. In fact, my story has a
: good ending. I'm emotional because I personally know of Ts who took their
: hearts out for some married women only were left broken into pieces.
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I'm emotional not because I have been an victim. In fact, my story has a
: good ending. I'm emotional because I personally know of Ts who took their
: hearts out for some married women only were left broken into pieces.
e*e
207 楼
赞!
这个故事不错。这样子ending以后还能有个美好的回忆,真交往了,基本结局都很狗血。
o
当时
有保
p
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 自己没有香艳的drama可讲 拿别人的故事来凑个数
: 我一个熟人 暂称B 一般crush on someone who's taken的反应都是stay away, move o
: n, and wish herself g'luck on next one. 但机缘巧合B遇到了S,两人从一开始便相
: 谈甚欢 一见如故,用B的原话就是I knew there was sth. I had a feeling. 不过当时
: 两人各自都在relationship当中 B有女友 S也和男友Y在一起 并有其他诸事忙碌 没有保
: 持什么联系
: 大约一年后 B已是单身 出席朋友的b-day party 又遇到了S以及其fiance Y 在after p
: arty上B喝大了 对S说出一年前就对其crush S只是回道 "cool, I'm flattered." 由于
: 醉了,B顺嘴跟了一句 "you should be, cuz I'm HOT." (作为旁人的我一直很诧异,
: B看我眼里和hot不沾边,最多是个cute dork, S听到了竟然没被turn off)那晚S和Y把
这个故事不错。这样子ending以后还能有个美好的回忆,真交往了,基本结局都很狗血。
o
当时
有保
p
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 自己没有香艳的drama可讲 拿别人的故事来凑个数
: 我一个熟人 暂称B 一般crush on someone who's taken的反应都是stay away, move o
: n, and wish herself g'luck on next one. 但机缘巧合B遇到了S,两人从一开始便相
: 谈甚欢 一见如故,用B的原话就是I knew there was sth. I had a feeling. 不过当时
: 两人各自都在relationship当中 B有女友 S也和男友Y在一起 并有其他诸事忙碌 没有保
: 持什么联系
: 大约一年后 B已是单身 出席朋友的b-day party 又遇到了S以及其fiance Y 在after p
: arty上B喝大了 对S说出一年前就对其crush S只是回道 "cool, I'm flattered." 由于
: 醉了,B顺嘴跟了一句 "you should be, cuz I'm HOT." (作为旁人的我一直很诧异,
: B看我眼里和hot不沾边,最多是个cute dork, S听到了竟然没被turn off)那晚S和Y把
y*k
208 楼
a*y
209 楼
有些人就是享受拥有小三小四那种集万千宠爱于一身的感觉吧
其实也挺正常的
只是这种感觉如果建立在cheating的基础上,就显得很。。无耻了。。
从另一个角度来说,这种人在拉拉界有市场,也是件挺悲哀的事 谁让市场不liquid呢
【在 R*****G 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 你真是个拎不清。呵呵。 Woolf也是开放婚姻,所以,也不是cheater。
: 其实,我对MULTIGAMY没什么感觉。我朋友中有这么样的万人迷,周围好几个围着为
: 她争风吃醋,却又能相安无事。---------因为她一早示下,这个是你情我愿,哪个
: 如果独占欲太强,就只有立刻出局。
: 但是,对于普通人来说,保持小三小四,很多人靠的是CHEATING。天涯中的那些已
: 婚拉拉,大部分人都这样。若是她们的老公知道了,死活不肯离婚指天画地表忠心
: 的,也是她们。
: cheater就没什么好说了,贱就一个字。
其实也挺正常的
只是这种感觉如果建立在cheating的基础上,就显得很。。无耻了。。
从另一个角度来说,这种人在拉拉界有市场,也是件挺悲哀的事 谁让市场不liquid呢
【在 R*****G 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 你真是个拎不清。呵呵。 Woolf也是开放婚姻,所以,也不是cheater。
: 其实,我对MULTIGAMY没什么感觉。我朋友中有这么样的万人迷,周围好几个围着为
: 她争风吃醋,却又能相安无事。---------因为她一早示下,这个是你情我愿,哪个
: 如果独占欲太强,就只有立刻出局。
: 但是,对于普通人来说,保持小三小四,很多人靠的是CHEATING。天涯中的那些已
: 婚拉拉,大部分人都这样。若是她们的老公知道了,死活不肯离婚指天画地表忠心
: 的,也是她们。
: cheater就没什么好说了,贱就一个字。
y*k
210 楼
There's a different between what you hope or think or read about love and
what you experience.
It's like the beautiful death scene in the movies. The heroine gets hit by
an arrow. The camera zooms in on a small blood stain on her chest. The dot
slowly grows larger, maximizing the contrast between her white dress and the
redness of the blood. The camera then focuses on her face. Her big round
eyes are filled with tears and reflections of her lover crying for help. She
falls, so very gracefully, onto the ground covered by maple leaves. In the
end, the scene zooms out, giving you the sensation of a soul fleeing the
body.
In reality. An arrow goes through a girl's chest. Blood gushes out. She is
seized by pain. She falls like a rock, big bumps where her head hits the
ground. She dies.
For someone who's only seen the movie, they'll tell you death is beautiful.
They might even consider it a great experience to die.
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 在我眼里, 任何爱情都是美好的, 是不是能长久, 是缘分。珍惜心动的感觉。。。
: 如果不能实现,化成对艺术和对生活的爱和激情。。。
: 爱情和道德一点关系。
: 但是婚姻不一样。 她不仅是爱情,还有比爱情更深更长久的联系。。 和一个人厮守真
: 实可欲不可求的最美好的事情。
:
: o
: 当时
: 有保
: p
what you experience.
It's like the beautiful death scene in the movies. The heroine gets hit by
an arrow. The camera zooms in on a small blood stain on her chest. The dot
slowly grows larger, maximizing the contrast between her white dress and the
redness of the blood. The camera then focuses on her face. Her big round
eyes are filled with tears and reflections of her lover crying for help. She
falls, so very gracefully, onto the ground covered by maple leaves. In the
end, the scene zooms out, giving you the sensation of a soul fleeing the
body.
In reality. An arrow goes through a girl's chest. Blood gushes out. She is
seized by pain. She falls like a rock, big bumps where her head hits the
ground. She dies.
For someone who's only seen the movie, they'll tell you death is beautiful.
They might even consider it a great experience to die.
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 在我眼里, 任何爱情都是美好的, 是不是能长久, 是缘分。珍惜心动的感觉。。。
: 如果不能实现,化成对艺术和对生活的爱和激情。。。
: 爱情和道德一点关系。
: 但是婚姻不一样。 她不仅是爱情,还有比爱情更深更长久的联系。。 和一个人厮守真
: 实可欲不可求的最美好的事情。
:
: o
: 当时
: 有保
: p
e*e
211 楼
想起来,前一阵那个帖子T傻,钱多,速来。。
lz莫非受了什么启发?
lz莫非受了什么启发?
e*e
213 楼
这种是比较可耻的,我同意。
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I don't agree. 周瑜黄盖 had a mutual understanding and they know what they
: are in for. From what I understand, my friend was deceived big time. The
: married woman gave her all sorts of false hope and she's done it to many
: other Ts most of whom fell to her trap on this board.
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I don't agree. 周瑜黄盖 had a mutual understanding and they know what they
: are in for. From what I understand, my friend was deceived big time. The
: married woman gave her all sorts of false hope and she's done it to many
: other Ts most of whom fell to her trap on this board.
t*a
215 楼
曝ID 没欺骗才是周瑜黄盖
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I don't agree. 周瑜黄盖 had a mutual understanding and they know what they
: are in for. From what I understand, my friend was deceived big time. The
: married woman gave her all sorts of false hope and she's done it to many
: other Ts most of whom fell to her trap on this board.
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I don't agree. 周瑜黄盖 had a mutual understanding and they know what they
: are in for. From what I understand, my friend was deceived big time. The
: married woman gave her all sorts of false hope and she's done it to many
: other Ts most of whom fell to her trap on this board.
c*e
221 楼
I feel sorry for what ur friend been through, but again that's just one
possibility for this kind situation. there are many other possibilities.
actually, a lot of them I heard that they had very clear visual on
themselves, including 周瑜黄盖,而且互为周瑜黄盖,各取所需而已。
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I don't agree. 周瑜黄盖 had a mutual understanding and they know what they
: are in for. From what I understand, my friend was deceived big time. The
: married woman gave her all sorts of false hope and she's done it to many
: other Ts most of whom fell to her trap on this board.
possibility for this kind situation. there are many other possibilities.
actually, a lot of them I heard that they had very clear visual on
themselves, including 周瑜黄盖,而且互为周瑜黄盖,各取所需而已。
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I don't agree. 周瑜黄盖 had a mutual understanding and they know what they
: are in for. From what I understand, my friend was deceived big time. The
: married woman gave her all sorts of false hope and she's done it to many
: other Ts most of whom fell to her trap on this board.
z*e
223 楼
先顶后看。。
o
当时
有保
p
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 自己没有香艳的drama可讲 拿别人的故事来凑个数
: 我一个熟人 暂称B 一般crush on someone who's taken的反应都是stay away, move o
: n, and wish herself g'luck on next one. 但机缘巧合B遇到了S,两人从一开始便相
: 谈甚欢 一见如故,用B的原话就是I knew there was sth. I had a feeling. 不过当时
: 两人各自都在relationship当中 B有女友 S也和男友Y在一起 并有其他诸事忙碌 没有保
: 持什么联系
: 大约一年后 B已是单身 出席朋友的b-day party 又遇到了S以及其fiance Y 在after p
: arty上B喝大了 对S说出一年前就对其crush S只是回道 "cool, I'm flattered." 由于
: 醉了,B顺嘴跟了一句 "you should be, cuz I'm HOT." (作为旁人的我一直很诧异,
: B看我眼里和hot不沾边,最多是个cute dork, S听到了竟然没被turn off)那晚S和Y把
o
当时
有保
p
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 自己没有香艳的drama可讲 拿别人的故事来凑个数
: 我一个熟人 暂称B 一般crush on someone who's taken的反应都是stay away, move o
: n, and wish herself g'luck on next one. 但机缘巧合B遇到了S,两人从一开始便相
: 谈甚欢 一见如故,用B的原话就是I knew there was sth. I had a feeling. 不过当时
: 两人各自都在relationship当中 B有女友 S也和男友Y在一起 并有其他诸事忙碌 没有保
: 持什么联系
: 大约一年后 B已是单身 出席朋友的b-day party 又遇到了S以及其fiance Y 在after p
: arty上B喝大了 对S说出一年前就对其crush S只是回道 "cool, I'm flattered." 由于
: 醉了,B顺嘴跟了一句 "you should be, cuz I'm HOT." (作为旁人的我一直很诧异,
: B看我眼里和hot不沾边,最多是个cute dork, S听到了竟然没被turn off)那晚S和Y把
G*i
234 楼
还是这里水大
好看
好看
R*G
246 楼
如果是六七十年代的LES,对自己的性向缺乏了解,结婚后,倒是会忽然发现自己处
于一个delimma。八十年代后,再拿这个理由退逶,也太土了吧。
在不涉及爱情的前提下,这个所谓关系,就是算计,既然算计,当然有输赢。
爱情是不会有输赢的。--------不好拿这两件事混说。
每次看到已婚拉拉过来拿爱情说事--------真的,请不要拿爱情说事,你那些cheating来
cheating去的东东,就别拿来侮辱别人的智商了。
于一个delimma。八十年代后,再拿这个理由退逶,也太土了吧。
在不涉及爱情的前提下,这个所谓关系,就是算计,既然算计,当然有输赢。
爱情是不会有输赢的。--------不好拿这两件事混说。
每次看到已婚拉拉过来拿爱情说事--------真的,请不要拿爱情说事,你那些cheating来
cheating去的东东,就别拿来侮辱别人的智商了。
s*n
247 楼
I live for beautiful things. Not for some rigid morality the society or
someone impose one.
the
She
the
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: There's a different between what you hope or think or read about love and
: what you experience.
: It's like the beautiful death scene in the movies. The heroine gets hit by
: an arrow. The camera zooms in on a small blood stain on her chest. The dot
: slowly grows larger, maximizing the contrast between her white dress and the
: redness of the blood. The camera then focuses on her face. Her big round
: eyes are filled with tears and reflections of her lover crying for help. She
: falls, so very gracefully, onto the ground covered by maple leaves. In the
: end, the scene zooms out, giving you the sensation of a soul fleeing the
: body.
someone impose one.
the
She
the
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: There's a different between what you hope or think or read about love and
: what you experience.
: It's like the beautiful death scene in the movies. The heroine gets hit by
: an arrow. The camera zooms in on a small blood stain on her chest. The dot
: slowly grows larger, maximizing the contrast between her white dress and the
: redness of the blood. The camera then focuses on her face. Her big round
: eyes are filled with tears and reflections of her lover crying for help. She
: falls, so very gracefully, onto the ground covered by maple leaves. In the
: end, the scene zooms out, giving you the sensation of a soul fleeing the
: body.
e*h
250 楼
爆ID。老大发包子。哈哈
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I don't agree. 周瑜黄盖 had a mutual understanding and they know what they
: are in for. From what I understand, my friend was deceived big time. The
: married woman gave her all sorts of false hope and she's done it to many
: other Ts most of whom fell to her trap on this board.
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I don't agree. 周瑜黄盖 had a mutual understanding and they know what they
: are in for. From what I understand, my friend was deceived big time. The
: married woman gave her all sorts of false hope and she's done it to many
: other Ts most of whom fell to her trap on this board.
a*7
254 楼
这个还真是拉拉版历久不衰的热门话题,每次一出现都得发大水
看完了发现只有版主讲了一个故事而且还是个相对美好的结局
这帖已经泛滥了LZ也不晓得跑哪去了,要是LZ还想听故事的话,我倒是可以供献几个
看完了发现只有版主讲了一个故事而且还是个相对美好的结局
这帖已经泛滥了LZ也不晓得跑哪去了,要是LZ还想听故事的话,我倒是可以供献几个
e*h
259 楼
我还不认识有结婚的拉拉。朋友的朋友也没听说过。
听LD说过,她多年前聚会时见过一个40多岁的结婚多年有孩子的拉拉。
人家也很坦诚,说这么年过去完成了人生必经的完成的责任,也对得起丈夫和父母了。
孩子也大了。 可以寻找自己的要的生活,但是同时也没必要离婚。
听LD说过,她多年前聚会时见过一个40多岁的结婚多年有孩子的拉拉。
人家也很坦诚,说这么年过去完成了人生必经的完成的责任,也对得起丈夫和父母了。
孩子也大了。 可以寻找自己的要的生活,但是同时也没必要离婚。
a*7
261 楼
好吧,有人愿意听我就讲讲呗,不过不是现在,今晚下班之后再讲 :)
e*h
272 楼
EVIL也不至于。
就是自私呗。
to
to
breaking
eye
women?
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: K, I admit it wasn't nice to use "ugly" but it's the first word that came to
: my mind when I read "不想破坏家,也不想放下女人". Not to be too cynical,
: but what kind of oxymoron question is this?! If you wanna remain married to
: a guy then there's no way you can have a woman on the side without breaking
: the family. Unless of course, you are psychopathic and can turn a blind eye
: to other's pain.
: Whoever wrote the post is certainly not Lily. What she wants to be is more
: like Katie in Tipping the velvet and Vita Sackville. Can you justify Katie
: wanting to remain married to Walter while having Nan or Vita pretty much
: ignoring her husband and son while having relationships with numerous women?
就是自私呗。
to
to
breaking
eye
women?
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: K, I admit it wasn't nice to use "ugly" but it's the first word that came to
: my mind when I read "不想破坏家,也不想放下女人". Not to be too cynical,
: but what kind of oxymoron question is this?! If you wanna remain married to
: a guy then there's no way you can have a woman on the side without breaking
: the family. Unless of course, you are psychopathic and can turn a blind eye
: to other's pain.
: Whoever wrote the post is certainly not Lily. What she wants to be is more
: like Katie in Tipping the velvet and Vita Sackville. Can you justify Katie
: wanting to remain married to Walter while having Nan or Vita pretty much
: ignoring her husband and son while having relationships with numerous women?
e*h
276 楼
女人哦。天生爱做梦。
e*e
279 楼
比闺蜜跟多一点什么的那种介于暧昧/姐妹/情人的关系么?
女人呀,到底想要什么呢?
女人呀,到底想要什么呢?
s*n
292 楼
I agree with what you said. I need to modify my statement:
首先,道德和社会规范不一样。 道德是个人的, 个人针对个人良心的审判, 是审美
的一部分。
而社会规范,和美没有关系, 和道德差异很大。
但是许多人把道德和社会规范混淆, 比如以前,通奸要被杀死, 等。 婚外恋,笼统
来说,是破坏了社会规范,但是是不是触及道德,我觉得是另一回事。
还有, 我个人认为,一个人只能约束自己的道德。 对别人的行为道德谴责,有时候是
一件可笑的事情。
【在 R*****G 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 黑格尔曾经批判过康德所谓的自然美,并指出:美,是主体和客体交流并共同创造
: 的产物。所以,美不可能脱离日常生活经验而存在,美本身,包含了我们的道德判
: 断。
首先,道德和社会规范不一样。 道德是个人的, 个人针对个人良心的审判, 是审美
的一部分。
而社会规范,和美没有关系, 和道德差异很大。
但是许多人把道德和社会规范混淆, 比如以前,通奸要被杀死, 等。 婚外恋,笼统
来说,是破坏了社会规范,但是是不是触及道德,我觉得是另一回事。
还有, 我个人认为,一个人只能约束自己的道德。 对别人的行为道德谴责,有时候是
一件可笑的事情。
【在 R*****G 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 黑格尔曾经批判过康德所谓的自然美,并指出:美,是主体和客体交流并共同创造
: 的产物。所以,美不可能脱离日常生活经验而存在,美本身,包含了我们的道德判
: 断。
R*G
297 楼
哈哈,你的哲学素养不够阿。--------有关道德的哲学源流,各种观点针锋相对,早
已涵盖了我们今天的讨论。---------所以说,太阳底下无新事。
当年狂飙运动,就曾旗帜鲜明的反对社会的虚伪道德。以Mill为代表信奉的快乐原
则,即是鼓励个人追求快乐的最大化,反对虚伪的基督道德。但是Mill预设的前提,
却是不损害别人的利益。----------Cheating即是损害了别人的利益,因为此行为
抹煞了配偶的知情权。即使有些cheater假惺惺的说:这是为对方考虑。这个Mill也
早已有了预防,因为快乐原则的前提,即是承认每个人都是自己利益的最好捍卫者,
知情权体现对每个人的平等尊重。
一句话总结:骗子没有行骗的自由,旁人有批判揭穿骗子的权利。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I agree with what you said. I need to modify my statement:
: 首先,道德和社会规范不一样。 道德是个人的, 个人针对个人良心的审判, 是审美
: 的一部分。
: 而社会规范,和美没有关系, 和道德差异很大。
: 但是许多人把道德和社会规范混淆, 比如以前,通奸要被杀死, 等。 婚外恋,笼统
: 来说,是破坏了社会规范,但是是不是触及道德,我觉得是另一回事。
: 还有, 我个人认为,一个人只能约束自己的道德。 对别人的行为道德谴责,有时候是
: 一件可笑的事情。
已涵盖了我们今天的讨论。---------所以说,太阳底下无新事。
当年狂飙运动,就曾旗帜鲜明的反对社会的虚伪道德。以Mill为代表信奉的快乐原
则,即是鼓励个人追求快乐的最大化,反对虚伪的基督道德。但是Mill预设的前提,
却是不损害别人的利益。----------Cheating即是损害了别人的利益,因为此行为
抹煞了配偶的知情权。即使有些cheater假惺惺的说:这是为对方考虑。这个Mill也
早已有了预防,因为快乐原则的前提,即是承认每个人都是自己利益的最好捍卫者,
知情权体现对每个人的平等尊重。
一句话总结:骗子没有行骗的自由,旁人有批判揭穿骗子的权利。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I agree with what you said. I need to modify my statement:
: 首先,道德和社会规范不一样。 道德是个人的, 个人针对个人良心的审判, 是审美
: 的一部分。
: 而社会规范,和美没有关系, 和道德差异很大。
: 但是许多人把道德和社会规范混淆, 比如以前,通奸要被杀死, 等。 婚外恋,笼统
: 来说,是破坏了社会规范,但是是不是触及道德,我觉得是另一回事。
: 还有, 我个人认为,一个人只能约束自己的道德。 对别人的行为道德谴责,有时候是
: 一件可笑的事情。
R*G
298 楼
300
Cap to Spartans!
Cap to Spartans!
c*e
299 楼
每个定义或标准 都有可能有灰色地带 someone would abuse it. 但不能因此而否定全
部
【在 R*****G 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 哈哈,你的哲学素养不够阿。--------有关道德的哲学源流,各种观点针锋相对,早
: 已涵盖了我们今天的讨论。---------所以说,太阳底下无新事。
: 当年狂飙运动,就曾旗帜鲜明的反对社会的虚伪道德。以Mill为代表信奉的快乐原
: 则,即是鼓励个人追求快乐的最大化,反对虚伪的基督道德。但是Mill预设的前提,
: 却是不损害别人的利益。----------Cheating即是损害了别人的利益,因为此行为
: 抹煞了配偶的知情权。即使有些cheater假惺惺的说:这是为对方考虑。这个Mill也
: 早已有了预防,因为快乐原则的前提,即是承认每个人都是自己利益的最好捍卫者,
: 知情权体现对每个人的平等尊重。
: 一句话总结:骗子没有行骗的自由,旁人有批判揭穿骗子的权利。
部
【在 R*****G 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 哈哈,你的哲学素养不够阿。--------有关道德的哲学源流,各种观点针锋相对,早
: 已涵盖了我们今天的讨论。---------所以说,太阳底下无新事。
: 当年狂飙运动,就曾旗帜鲜明的反对社会的虚伪道德。以Mill为代表信奉的快乐原
: 则,即是鼓励个人追求快乐的最大化,反对虚伪的基督道德。但是Mill预设的前提,
: 却是不损害别人的利益。----------Cheating即是损害了别人的利益,因为此行为
: 抹煞了配偶的知情权。即使有些cheater假惺惺的说:这是为对方考虑。这个Mill也
: 早已有了预防,因为快乐原则的前提,即是承认每个人都是自己利益的最好捍卫者,
: 知情权体现对每个人的平等尊重。
: 一句话总结:骗子没有行骗的自由,旁人有批判揭穿骗子的权利。
R*G
300 楼
300, finally.
G*i
301 楼
好好看
爱你~
【在 R*****G 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 哈哈,你的哲学素养不够阿。--------有关道德的哲学源流,各种观点针锋相对,早
: 已涵盖了我们今天的讨论。---------所以说,太阳底下无新事。
: 当年狂飙运动,就曾旗帜鲜明的反对社会的虚伪道德。以Mill为代表信奉的快乐原
: 则,即是鼓励个人追求快乐的最大化,反对虚伪的基督道德。但是Mill预设的前提,
: 却是不损害别人的利益。----------Cheating即是损害了别人的利益,因为此行为
: 抹煞了配偶的知情权。即使有些cheater假惺惺的说:这是为对方考虑。这个Mill也
: 早已有了预防,因为快乐原则的前提,即是承认每个人都是自己利益的最好捍卫者,
: 知情权体现对每个人的平等尊重。
: 一句话总结:骗子没有行骗的自由,旁人有批判揭穿骗子的权利。
爱你~
【在 R*****G 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 哈哈,你的哲学素养不够阿。--------有关道德的哲学源流,各种观点针锋相对,早
: 已涵盖了我们今天的讨论。---------所以说,太阳底下无新事。
: 当年狂飙运动,就曾旗帜鲜明的反对社会的虚伪道德。以Mill为代表信奉的快乐原
: 则,即是鼓励个人追求快乐的最大化,反对虚伪的基督道德。但是Mill预设的前提,
: 却是不损害别人的利益。----------Cheating即是损害了别人的利益,因为此行为
: 抹煞了配偶的知情权。即使有些cheater假惺惺的说:这是为对方考虑。这个Mill也
: 早已有了预防,因为快乐原则的前提,即是承认每个人都是自己利益的最好捍卫者,
: 知情权体现对每个人的平等尊重。
: 一句话总结:骗子没有行骗的自由,旁人有批判揭穿骗子的权利。
e*e
302 楼
我觉得spinoza的意思是,受害者有权去批评骗子,旁观者不应该
还有,如果cheating的事情还没有发生之前,只是有这个意向的时候,该不该被指责
再有,我觉得中国人对于‘情妇’和‘情人’的概念其实跟西方是有一点差别的。。
中国人的传统里,要么是妾,要么是偷,光明正大的情人好像不常见。
【在 R*****G 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 哈哈,你的哲学素养不够阿。--------有关道德的哲学源流,各种观点针锋相对,早
: 已涵盖了我们今天的讨论。---------所以说,太阳底下无新事。
: 当年狂飙运动,就曾旗帜鲜明的反对社会的虚伪道德。以Mill为代表信奉的快乐原
: 则,即是鼓励个人追求快乐的最大化,反对虚伪的基督道德。但是Mill预设的前提,
: 却是不损害别人的利益。----------Cheating即是损害了别人的利益,因为此行为
: 抹煞了配偶的知情权。即使有些cheater假惺惺的说:这是为对方考虑。这个Mill也
: 早已有了预防,因为快乐原则的前提,即是承认每个人都是自己利益的最好捍卫者,
: 知情权体现对每个人的平等尊重。
: 一句话总结:骗子没有行骗的自由,旁人有批判揭穿骗子的权利。
还有,如果cheating的事情还没有发生之前,只是有这个意向的时候,该不该被指责
再有,我觉得中国人对于‘情妇’和‘情人’的概念其实跟西方是有一点差别的。。
中国人的传统里,要么是妾,要么是偷,光明正大的情人好像不常见。
【在 R*****G 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 哈哈,你的哲学素养不够阿。--------有关道德的哲学源流,各种观点针锋相对,早
: 已涵盖了我们今天的讨论。---------所以说,太阳底下无新事。
: 当年狂飙运动,就曾旗帜鲜明的反对社会的虚伪道德。以Mill为代表信奉的快乐原
: 则,即是鼓励个人追求快乐的最大化,反对虚伪的基督道德。但是Mill预设的前提,
: 却是不损害别人的利益。----------Cheating即是损害了别人的利益,因为此行为
: 抹煞了配偶的知情权。即使有些cheater假惺惺的说:这是为对方考虑。这个Mill也
: 早已有了预防,因为快乐原则的前提,即是承认每个人都是自己利益的最好捍卫者,
: 知情权体现对每个人的平等尊重。
: 一句话总结:骗子没有行骗的自由,旁人有批判揭穿骗子的权利。
R*G
308 楼
年纪渐长,我发现,经过一番远足,画一个圆,我最终还是发觉自己同意卢梭,去相
信人性的高贵,将这个当成生活的支点。 尼玛,基督的人性全然败坏论,真是个特
别下贱的思想 ---------让奴才臣服,却让恶者更加肆虐。我也开始能理解Mill 和
伏尔泰对基督教的坚持不懈的讨伐了。
也同意康德,信奉:我头上的星光,和我心中的道德法则。
信人性的高贵,将这个当成生活的支点。 尼玛,基督的人性全然败坏论,真是个特
别下贱的思想 ---------让奴才臣服,却让恶者更加肆虐。我也开始能理解Mill 和
伏尔泰对基督教的坚持不懈的讨伐了。
也同意康德,信奉:我头上的星光,和我心中的道德法则。
R*G
345 楼
看来颜子他老人家不混论坛了,若搁当年,他还不得俯冲过来,对俺的立论一阵左砍
右剁? ---------靠,真想知道,这家伙修为现在如何了。
右剁? ---------靠,真想知道,这家伙修为现在如何了。
e*h
352 楼
老ID们,大家记不记的好多年前,有个已婚的拉拉上来发帖“劝告”大家转直,因为她
就心力交瘁的交往过6个女朋友,结果不是被劈腿,要不就是处不下去, 后来就结婚了
,觉的跟丈夫相处更轻松,完全不争吵。什么什么的。
这帖子还找得到嘛
就心力交瘁的交往过6个女朋友,结果不是被劈腿,要不就是处不下去, 后来就结婚了
,觉的跟丈夫相处更轻松,完全不争吵。什么什么的。
这帖子还找得到嘛
s*n
376 楼
我不懂哲学。我只是实在不愿意评价我不了解的事情,特别是借助”道德“ 的幌子。
是否损害别人的利益,真不是你能简单评价的。
这样空洞的谈话很没意思。 其实,生活能教会我们一切。
我只是想说,对于我自己,我希望我有准则, 对于别人的事情,我宁可做到更宽容。
【在 R*****G 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 哈哈,你的哲学素养不够阿。--------有关道德的哲学源流,各种观点针锋相对,早
: 已涵盖了我们今天的讨论。---------所以说,太阳底下无新事。
: 当年狂飙运动,就曾旗帜鲜明的反对社会的虚伪道德。以Mill为代表信奉的快乐原
: 则,即是鼓励个人追求快乐的最大化,反对虚伪的基督道德。但是Mill预设的前提,
: 却是不损害别人的利益。----------Cheating即是损害了别人的利益,因为此行为
: 抹煞了配偶的知情权。即使有些cheater假惺惺的说:这是为对方考虑。这个Mill也
: 早已有了预防,因为快乐原则的前提,即是承认每个人都是自己利益的最好捍卫者,
: 知情权体现对每个人的平等尊重。
: 一句话总结:骗子没有行骗的自由,旁人有批判揭穿骗子的权利。
是否损害别人的利益,真不是你能简单评价的。
这样空洞的谈话很没意思。 其实,生活能教会我们一切。
我只是想说,对于我自己,我希望我有准则, 对于别人的事情,我宁可做到更宽容。
【在 R*****G 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 哈哈,你的哲学素养不够阿。--------有关道德的哲学源流,各种观点针锋相对,早
: 已涵盖了我们今天的讨论。---------所以说,太阳底下无新事。
: 当年狂飙运动,就曾旗帜鲜明的反对社会的虚伪道德。以Mill为代表信奉的快乐原
: 则,即是鼓励个人追求快乐的最大化,反对虚伪的基督道德。但是Mill预设的前提,
: 却是不损害别人的利益。----------Cheating即是损害了别人的利益,因为此行为
: 抹煞了配偶的知情权。即使有些cheater假惺惺的说:这是为对方考虑。这个Mill也
: 早已有了预防,因为快乐原则的前提,即是承认每个人都是自己利益的最好捍卫者,
: 知情权体现对每个人的平等尊重。
: 一句话总结:骗子没有行骗的自由,旁人有批判揭穿骗子的权利。
c*e
377 楼
这个楼 水都清了 只剩下十几页
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/LES/108253.html
【在 e***h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: ID 是那个啊。 找不到啊
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/LES/108253.html
【在 e***h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: ID 是那个啊。 找不到啊
e*e
379 楼
还是google好用,找到了: 一个弯久必直的故事
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/LES/108253.html
【在 e***h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: ID 是那个啊。 找不到啊
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/LES/108253.html
【在 e***h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: ID 是那个啊。 找不到啊
n*h
391 楼
扯什么黑格尔老子宇宙道德的?别说社会道德,就说自然科学,今天说宇宙是无穷的明
天说宇宙之外还有更宏观的世界也未可定。自己认准的东西自己遵守就行,顶多看见别
人轨道不同站出来说一声自己观点,非要执著的想去说服别人,太狭隘。
所以我一直说,我无德无能,所以我不参与道德辩论。
说大道理想给lz黄钟大吕的效果?我说了那么多实惠的就事论事的小道理lz并没有回应
。我看lz是一心想试一试并在此征友?我表示理解并祝lz好运,如果lz夫妇和将来的‘
闺蜜’夫妇都能快乐到老,即使没有真相大白的一天,就我鄙薄的道德水准来看,也是
上上策,好过一个成天忧心忡忡想出轨的妻子和一对因此不快乐的夫妻。
天说宇宙之外还有更宏观的世界也未可定。自己认准的东西自己遵守就行,顶多看见别
人轨道不同站出来说一声自己观点,非要执著的想去说服别人,太狭隘。
所以我一直说,我无德无能,所以我不参与道德辩论。
说大道理想给lz黄钟大吕的效果?我说了那么多实惠的就事论事的小道理lz并没有回应
。我看lz是一心想试一试并在此征友?我表示理解并祝lz好运,如果lz夫妇和将来的‘
闺蜜’夫妇都能快乐到老,即使没有真相大白的一天,就我鄙薄的道德水准来看,也是
上上策,好过一个成天忧心忡忡想出轨的妻子和一对因此不快乐的夫妻。
e*e
393 楼
剃头挑子一头热,我们围观群众多投入呀,lz倒是没了
不过没关系,你说的话,lz肯定读啦,我们也看啦,还有很多潜水员都看见啦,不会浪
费滴
【在 n******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 扯什么黑格尔老子宇宙道德的?别说社会道德,就说自然科学,今天说宇宙是无穷的明
: 天说宇宙之外还有更宏观的世界也未可定。自己认准的东西自己遵守就行,顶多看见别
: 人轨道不同站出来说一声自己观点,非要执著的想去说服别人,太狭隘。
: 所以我一直说,我无德无能,所以我不参与道德辩论。
: 说大道理想给lz黄钟大吕的效果?我说了那么多实惠的就事论事的小道理lz并没有回应
: 。我看lz是一心想试一试并在此征友?我表示理解并祝lz好运,如果lz夫妇和将来的‘
: 闺蜜’夫妇都能快乐到老,即使没有真相大白的一天,就我鄙薄的道德水准来看,也是
: 上上策,好过一个成天忧心忡忡想出轨的妻子和一对因此不快乐的夫妻。
不过没关系,你说的话,lz肯定读啦,我们也看啦,还有很多潜水员都看见啦,不会浪
费滴
【在 n******h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 扯什么黑格尔老子宇宙道德的?别说社会道德,就说自然科学,今天说宇宙是无穷的明
: 天说宇宙之外还有更宏观的世界也未可定。自己认准的东西自己遵守就行,顶多看见别
: 人轨道不同站出来说一声自己观点,非要执著的想去说服别人,太狭隘。
: 所以我一直说,我无德无能,所以我不参与道德辩论。
: 说大道理想给lz黄钟大吕的效果?我说了那么多实惠的就事论事的小道理lz并没有回应
: 。我看lz是一心想试一试并在此征友?我表示理解并祝lz好运,如果lz夫妇和将来的‘
: 闺蜜’夫妇都能快乐到老,即使没有真相大白的一天,就我鄙薄的道德水准来看,也是
: 上上策,好过一个成天忧心忡忡想出轨的妻子和一对因此不快乐的夫妻。
e*e
394 楼
有人抱怨这个版都是熟人自己玩,其实也没错,
本来拉拉人数少,就需要大家互相support,慢慢就变熟了呗
可惜感情爱情就那么些话题,聊了几年都聊完了
偶尔来个新人,可惜问的无非还是那几个老问题
大家七嘴八舌,完全在不同的level说话,其实挺好玩的 :)
其实也真是讲不出什么新观点。。。 然后就歪楼纯聊天了
本来拉拉人数少,就需要大家互相support,慢慢就变熟了呗
可惜感情爱情就那么些话题,聊了几年都聊完了
偶尔来个新人,可惜问的无非还是那几个老问题
大家七嘴八舌,完全在不同的level说话,其实挺好玩的 :)
其实也真是讲不出什么新观点。。。 然后就歪楼纯聊天了
s*n
395 楼
赞!
可能做为科学家我知道没啥事儿能在有生之年找到答案的。可是也不能不找,只是越找
越觉得自己啥也不知道,所以得谦虚。。。 扯远了。
说实话,人生短暂。享乐最重要。
【在 n******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 扯什么黑格尔老子宇宙道德的?别说社会道德,就说自然科学,今天说宇宙是无穷的明
: 天说宇宙之外还有更宏观的世界也未可定。自己认准的东西自己遵守就行,顶多看见别
: 人轨道不同站出来说一声自己观点,非要执著的想去说服别人,太狭隘。
: 所以我一直说,我无德无能,所以我不参与道德辩论。
: 说大道理想给lz黄钟大吕的效果?我说了那么多实惠的就事论事的小道理lz并没有回应
: 。我看lz是一心想试一试并在此征友?我表示理解并祝lz好运,如果lz夫妇和将来的‘
: 闺蜜’夫妇都能快乐到老,即使没有真相大白的一天,就我鄙薄的道德水准来看,也是
: 上上策,好过一个成天忧心忡忡想出轨的妻子和一对因此不快乐的夫妻。
可能做为科学家我知道没啥事儿能在有生之年找到答案的。可是也不能不找,只是越找
越觉得自己啥也不知道,所以得谦虚。。。 扯远了。
说实话,人生短暂。享乐最重要。
【在 n******h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 扯什么黑格尔老子宇宙道德的?别说社会道德,就说自然科学,今天说宇宙是无穷的明
: 天说宇宙之外还有更宏观的世界也未可定。自己认准的东西自己遵守就行,顶多看见别
: 人轨道不同站出来说一声自己观点,非要执著的想去说服别人,太狭隘。
: 所以我一直说,我无德无能,所以我不参与道德辩论。
: 说大道理想给lz黄钟大吕的效果?我说了那么多实惠的就事论事的小道理lz并没有回应
: 。我看lz是一心想试一试并在此征友?我表示理解并祝lz好运,如果lz夫妇和将来的‘
: 闺蜜’夫妇都能快乐到老,即使没有真相大白的一天,就我鄙薄的道德水准来看,也是
: 上上策,好过一个成天忧心忡忡想出轨的妻子和一对因此不快乐的夫妻。
L*y
403 楼
受不了了。楼主骗什么了?你这发散得也忒不严谨了。还哲学素养呢。哲学个扫把,速
养个笤帚
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.7
【在 R*****G 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 哈哈,你的哲学素养不够阿。--------有关道德的哲学源流,各种观点针锋相对,早
: 已涵盖了我们今天的讨论。---------所以说,太阳底下无新事。
: 当年狂飙运动,就曾旗帜鲜明的反对社会的虚伪道德。以Mill为代表信奉的快乐原
: 则,即是鼓励个人追求快乐的最大化,反对虚伪的基督道德。但是Mill预设的前提,
: 却是不损害别人的利益。----------Cheating即是损害了别人的利益,因为此行为
: 抹煞了配偶的知情权。即使有些cheater假惺惺的说:这是为对方考虑。这个Mill也
: 早已有了预防,因为快乐原则的前提,即是承认每个人都是自己利益的最好捍卫者,
: 知情权体现对每个人的平等尊重。
: 一句话总结:骗子没有行骗的自由,旁人有批判揭穿骗子的权利。
养个笤帚
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.7
【在 R*****G 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 哈哈,你的哲学素养不够阿。--------有关道德的哲学源流,各种观点针锋相对,早
: 已涵盖了我们今天的讨论。---------所以说,太阳底下无新事。
: 当年狂飙运动,就曾旗帜鲜明的反对社会的虚伪道德。以Mill为代表信奉的快乐原
: 则,即是鼓励个人追求快乐的最大化,反对虚伪的基督道德。但是Mill预设的前提,
: 却是不损害别人的利益。----------Cheating即是损害了别人的利益,因为此行为
: 抹煞了配偶的知情权。即使有些cheater假惺惺的说:这是为对方考虑。这个Mill也
: 早已有了预防,因为快乐原则的前提,即是承认每个人都是自己利益的最好捍卫者,
: 知情权体现对每个人的平等尊重。
: 一句话总结:骗子没有行骗的自由,旁人有批判揭穿骗子的权利。
n*h
413 楼
呵呵,忽然想起,别说100年50年前,就是今天,还有好多人不能接受同性恋,觉得对
同性产生爱恋以及有性趣是变态的不道德的,来这里的就算不是拉拉也是有拉拉情节的
吧,你觉得自己不道德还是变态?你和一个女人上床确认关系客观上说是不是危害社会
了?我看是,别的不说就说你阻止了人类繁衍进程,不是么,少了两个自然繁衍后代的
母体。
因为懂得所以慈悲,不懂同性感情的人骂你变态你接受不?如果接受,变态者不要职责
别人,没有立场。如果不接受,也不能理解别人的情感,那么起码多些同理心,大道理
成年人会不懂?哪个正常家庭出来的中国人不是“三纲五常”教育起来的。
同性产生爱恋以及有性趣是变态的不道德的,来这里的就算不是拉拉也是有拉拉情节的
吧,你觉得自己不道德还是变态?你和一个女人上床确认关系客观上说是不是危害社会
了?我看是,别的不说就说你阻止了人类繁衍进程,不是么,少了两个自然繁衍后代的
母体。
因为懂得所以慈悲,不懂同性感情的人骂你变态你接受不?如果接受,变态者不要职责
别人,没有立场。如果不接受,也不能理解别人的情感,那么起码多些同理心,大道理
成年人会不懂?哪个正常家庭出来的中国人不是“三纲五常”教育起来的。
e*e
414 楼
没有人是完人,这世界上没谁的屁股是干净的
变态也有权利指责别人
反过来,要说宽容呢,不光同性恋要宽容,所有人都应该更宽容
你的逻辑是:被骂的人要额外更加宽容 -- 因为你懂得被骂的滋味
这个让人看了心里多少不是滋味吧。。。
【在 n******h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 呵呵,忽然想起,别说100年50年前,就是今天,还有好多人不能接受同性恋,觉得对
: 同性产生爱恋以及有性趣是变态的不道德的,来这里的就算不是拉拉也是有拉拉情节的
: 吧,你觉得自己不道德还是变态?你和一个女人上床确认关系客观上说是不是危害社会
: 了?我看是,别的不说就说你阻止了人类繁衍进程,不是么,少了两个自然繁衍后代的
: 母体。
: 因为懂得所以慈悲,不懂同性感情的人骂你变态你接受不?如果接受,变态者不要职责
: 别人,没有立场。如果不接受,也不能理解别人的情感,那么起码多些同理心,大道理
: 成年人会不懂?哪个正常家庭出来的中国人不是“三纲五常”教育起来的。
变态也有权利指责别人
反过来,要说宽容呢,不光同性恋要宽容,所有人都应该更宽容
你的逻辑是:被骂的人要额外更加宽容 -- 因为你懂得被骂的滋味
这个让人看了心里多少不是滋味吧。。。
【在 n******h 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 呵呵,忽然想起,别说100年50年前,就是今天,还有好多人不能接受同性恋,觉得对
: 同性产生爱恋以及有性趣是变态的不道德的,来这里的就算不是拉拉也是有拉拉情节的
: 吧,你觉得自己不道德还是变态?你和一个女人上床确认关系客观上说是不是危害社会
: 了?我看是,别的不说就说你阻止了人类繁衍进程,不是么,少了两个自然繁衍后代的
: 母体。
: 因为懂得所以慈悲,不懂同性感情的人骂你变态你接受不?如果接受,变态者不要职责
: 别人,没有立场。如果不接受,也不能理解别人的情感,那么起码多些同理心,大道理
: 成年人会不懂?哪个正常家庭出来的中国人不是“三纲五常”教育起来的。
G*i
427 楼
r*x
428 楼
你们同时有女伴吗?
没有的话,会找吗?
有的话,怎么处理和家庭的关系?
有没有已婚的姐姐来说说自己的故事?
没有的话,会找吗?
有的话,怎么处理和家庭的关系?
有没有已婚的姐姐来说说自己的故事?
r*x
430 楼
怎么介绍呢?
我已婚,二十七八,不想破坏家,也不想放下女人,怎么办?
我已婚,二十七八,不想破坏家,也不想放下女人,怎么办?
y*k
432 楼
If you are ugly then please do everyone a favor and stay put.
If all you want is sex, 100 bucks go a long way in Las Vegas.
If you don't want to spend the money but you are super pretty you can
probably find a naive young T who's happy to be your weekend sex partner.
If you want more than just sex then you should find another married woman
who wants exactly what you want (i.e., have a lover but still remain married
).
Ethically speaking, if you are determined to stay married to a guy, you
should just bury your lesbian desire. Otherwise you'll almost certainly end
up hurting others just like in the vid below (scene starts at 11:55).
【在 r**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 怎么介绍呢?
: 我已婚,二十七八,不想破坏家,也不想放下女人,怎么办?
If all you want is sex, 100 bucks go a long way in Las Vegas.
If you don't want to spend the money but you are super pretty you can
probably find a naive young T who's happy to be your weekend sex partner.
If you want more than just sex then you should find another married woman
who wants exactly what you want (i.e., have a lover but still remain married
).
Ethically speaking, if you are determined to stay married to a guy, you
should just bury your lesbian desire. Otherwise you'll almost certainly end
up hurting others just like in the vid below (scene starts at 11:55).
【在 r**x 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 怎么介绍呢?
: 我已婚,二十七八,不想破坏家,也不想放下女人,怎么办?
s*n
438 楼
I think you are a bit too cruel, yoburtmilk.
I always thought, at least based on the movies you watched, you are tolerate
and compassionate.
First, you shouldn't use "ugly" as a classifier.
Or, you also shouldn't use "naive T" as an example.
It is way unnecessary and has nothing to do with the post.
I think even an ugly one could find happiness and is deserved to be loved.
Not anyone is as lucky as you or me or other lesbians on the board.
People are different.
Marriages mean different things to different people.
You might not know what she is going through.
I just watched the movie Amiee and Jagure. Lily was a married woman before
she met Felice.
Life can be uncontrollable.
Let LZ find her own way to balance her own life and hope she will find her
own happiness.
married
end
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: If you are ugly then please do everyone a favor and stay put.
: If all you want is sex, 100 bucks go a long way in Las Vegas.
: If you don't want to spend the money but you are super pretty you can
: probably find a naive young T who's happy to be your weekend sex partner.
: If you want more than just sex then you should find another married woman
: who wants exactly what you want (i.e., have a lover but still remain married
: ).
: Ethically speaking, if you are determined to stay married to a guy, you
: should just bury your lesbian desire. Otherwise you'll almost certainly end
: up hurting others just like in the vid below (scene starts at 11:55).
I always thought, at least based on the movies you watched, you are tolerate
and compassionate.
First, you shouldn't use "ugly" as a classifier.
Or, you also shouldn't use "naive T" as an example.
It is way unnecessary and has nothing to do with the post.
I think even an ugly one could find happiness and is deserved to be loved.
Not anyone is as lucky as you or me or other lesbians on the board.
People are different.
Marriages mean different things to different people.
You might not know what she is going through.
I just watched the movie Amiee and Jagure. Lily was a married woman before
she met Felice.
Life can be uncontrollable.
Let LZ find her own way to balance her own life and hope she will find her
own happiness.
married
end
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: If you are ugly then please do everyone a favor and stay put.
: If all you want is sex, 100 bucks go a long way in Las Vegas.
: If you don't want to spend the money but you are super pretty you can
: probably find a naive young T who's happy to be your weekend sex partner.
: If you want more than just sex then you should find another married woman
: who wants exactly what you want (i.e., have a lover but still remain married
: ).
: Ethically speaking, if you are determined to stay married to a guy, you
: should just bury your lesbian desire. Otherwise you'll almost certainly end
: up hurting others just like in the vid below (scene starts at 11:55).
w*r
440 楼
严重同意
tolerate
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I think you are a bit too cruel, yoburtmilk.
: I always thought, at least based on the movies you watched, you are tolerate
: and compassionate.
: First, you shouldn't use "ugly" as a classifier.
: Or, you also shouldn't use "naive T" as an example.
: It is way unnecessary and has nothing to do with the post.
: I think even an ugly one could find happiness and is deserved to be loved.
: Not anyone is as lucky as you or me or other lesbians on the board.
: People are different.
: Marriages mean different things to different people.
tolerate
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I think you are a bit too cruel, yoburtmilk.
: I always thought, at least based on the movies you watched, you are tolerate
: and compassionate.
: First, you shouldn't use "ugly" as a classifier.
: Or, you also shouldn't use "naive T" as an example.
: It is way unnecessary and has nothing to do with the post.
: I think even an ugly one could find happiness and is deserved to be loved.
: Not anyone is as lucky as you or me or other lesbians on the board.
: People are different.
: Marriages mean different things to different people.
w*r
441 楼
easy, buddy, no need to be this harsh
married
end
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: If you are ugly then please do everyone a favor and stay put.
: If all you want is sex, 100 bucks go a long way in Las Vegas.
: If you don't want to spend the money but you are super pretty you can
: probably find a naive young T who's happy to be your weekend sex partner.
: If you want more than just sex then you should find another married woman
: who wants exactly what you want (i.e., have a lover but still remain married
: ).
: Ethically speaking, if you are determined to stay married to a guy, you
: should just bury your lesbian desire. Otherwise you'll almost certainly end
: up hurting others just like in the vid below (scene starts at 11:55).
married
end
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: If you are ugly then please do everyone a favor and stay put.
: If all you want is sex, 100 bucks go a long way in Las Vegas.
: If you don't want to spend the money but you are super pretty you can
: probably find a naive young T who's happy to be your weekend sex partner.
: If you want more than just sex then you should find another married woman
: who wants exactly what you want (i.e., have a lover but still remain married
: ).
: Ethically speaking, if you are determined to stay married to a guy, you
: should just bury your lesbian desire. Otherwise you'll almost certainly end
: up hurting others just like in the vid below (scene starts at 11:55).
c*e
443 楼
我觉得这是两个问题 也是版上一直以来的一个误区
双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
ians另眼相看呢?
tolerate
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I think you are a bit too cruel, yoburtmilk.
: I always thought, at least based on the movies you watched, you are tolerate
: and compassionate.
: First, you shouldn't use "ugly" as a classifier.
: Or, you also shouldn't use "naive T" as an example.
: It is way unnecessary and has nothing to do with the post.
: I think even an ugly one could find happiness and is deserved to be loved.
: Not anyone is as lucky as you or me or other lesbians on the board.
: People are different.
: Marriages mean different things to different people.
双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
ians另眼相看呢?
tolerate
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I think you are a bit too cruel, yoburtmilk.
: I always thought, at least based on the movies you watched, you are tolerate
: and compassionate.
: First, you shouldn't use "ugly" as a classifier.
: Or, you also shouldn't use "naive T" as an example.
: It is way unnecessary and has nothing to do with the post.
: I think even an ugly one could find happiness and is deserved to be loved.
: Not anyone is as lucky as you or me or other lesbians on the board.
: People are different.
: Marriages mean different things to different people.
s*n
444 楼
我同意。
其实这么说很不公平。许多拉拉不也有可能劈腿吗? 只不过没有婚姻的束缚而已。 我
并不觉得一纸婚姻,就让一个人多了或少了束缚。不结婚也不代表不忠心于女朋友就要
减少道德谴责。
直说,一个人认定自己是拉拉, 并不愿意和男人结婚,并不等于一个人在道德上占任
何优势。
婚外恋, 和是否是拉拉,毫无关系。
)
有人
lesb
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得这是两个问题 也是版上一直以来的一个误区
: 双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
: 我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
: 而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
: 即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
: 所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
: ians另眼相看呢?
:
: tolerate
其实这么说很不公平。许多拉拉不也有可能劈腿吗? 只不过没有婚姻的束缚而已。 我
并不觉得一纸婚姻,就让一个人多了或少了束缚。不结婚也不代表不忠心于女朋友就要
减少道德谴责。
直说,一个人认定自己是拉拉, 并不愿意和男人结婚,并不等于一个人在道德上占任
何优势。
婚外恋, 和是否是拉拉,毫无关系。
)
有人
lesb
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得这是两个问题 也是版上一直以来的一个误区
: 双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
: 我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
: 而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
: 即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
: 所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
: ians另眼相看呢?
:
: tolerate
s*n
445 楼
我同意。
其实这么说很不公平。许多拉拉不也有可能劈腿吗? 只不过没有婚姻的束缚而已。 我
并不觉得一纸婚姻,就让一个人多了或少了束缚。不结婚也不代表不忠心于女朋友就要
减少道德谴责。
直说,一个人认定自己是拉拉, 并不愿意和男人结婚,并不等于一个人在道德上占任
何优势。
婚外恋, 和是否是拉拉,毫无关系。
)
有人
lesb
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得这是两个问题 也是版上一直以来的一个误区
: 双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
: 我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
: 而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
: 即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
: 所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
: ians另眼相看呢?
:
: tolerate
其实这么说很不公平。许多拉拉不也有可能劈腿吗? 只不过没有婚姻的束缚而已。 我
并不觉得一纸婚姻,就让一个人多了或少了束缚。不结婚也不代表不忠心于女朋友就要
减少道德谴责。
直说,一个人认定自己是拉拉, 并不愿意和男人结婚,并不等于一个人在道德上占任
何优势。
婚外恋, 和是否是拉拉,毫无关系。
)
有人
lesb
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得这是两个问题 也是版上一直以来的一个误区
: 双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
: 我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
: 而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
: 即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
: 所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
: ians另眼相看呢?
:
: tolerate
y*k
446 楼
K, I admit it wasn't nice to use "ugly" but it's the first word that came to
my mind when I read "不想破坏家,也不想放下女人". Not to be too cynical,
but what kind of oxymoron question is this?! If you wanna remain married to
a guy then there's no way you can have a woman on the side without breaking
the family. Unless of course, you are psychopathic and can turn a blind eye
to other's pain.
Whoever wrote the post is certainly not Lily. What she wants to be is more
like Katie in Tipping the velvet and Vita Sackville. Can you justify Katie
wanting to remain married to Walter while having Nan or Vita pretty much
ignoring her husband and son while having relationships with numerous women?
I know I cannot, even after considering the era they lived in. Maybe you
have a bigger heart than mine.
It's true everyone have the right to pursue happiness and is deserved to be
loved but at whose cost?
We are living in a time where modern family is on prime time and most people
hardly raise an eyebrow when you tell them you are gay. Still, we have some
twenty-seven old (it's not like she's 50 and didn't know it's okay to be
with a woman) here writing about wanting to stay married and have a lesbian
fling on the side. It's pure greedy and selfish. In fact, now that I think
about it, ugly is too light a word. Evil would have been more appropriate.
tolerate
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I think you are a bit too cruel, yoburtmilk.
: I always thought, at least based on the movies you watched, you are tolerate
: and compassionate.
: First, you shouldn't use "ugly" as a classifier.
: Or, you also shouldn't use "naive T" as an example.
: It is way unnecessary and has nothing to do with the post.
: I think even an ugly one could find happiness and is deserved to be loved.
: Not anyone is as lucky as you or me or other lesbians on the board.
: People are different.
: Marriages mean different things to different people.
my mind when I read "不想破坏家,也不想放下女人". Not to be too cynical,
but what kind of oxymoron question is this?! If you wanna remain married to
a guy then there's no way you can have a woman on the side without breaking
the family. Unless of course, you are psychopathic and can turn a blind eye
to other's pain.
Whoever wrote the post is certainly not Lily. What she wants to be is more
like Katie in Tipping the velvet and Vita Sackville. Can you justify Katie
wanting to remain married to Walter while having Nan or Vita pretty much
ignoring her husband and son while having relationships with numerous women?
I know I cannot, even after considering the era they lived in. Maybe you
have a bigger heart than mine.
It's true everyone have the right to pursue happiness and is deserved to be
loved but at whose cost?
We are living in a time where modern family is on prime time and most people
hardly raise an eyebrow when you tell them you are gay. Still, we have some
twenty-seven old (it's not like she's 50 and didn't know it's okay to be
with a woman) here writing about wanting to stay married and have a lesbian
fling on the side. It's pure greedy and selfish. In fact, now that I think
about it, ugly is too light a word. Evil would have been more appropriate.
tolerate
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I think you are a bit too cruel, yoburtmilk.
: I always thought, at least based on the movies you watched, you are tolerate
: and compassionate.
: First, you shouldn't use "ugly" as a classifier.
: Or, you also shouldn't use "naive T" as an example.
: It is way unnecessary and has nothing to do with the post.
: I think even an ugly one could find happiness and is deserved to be loved.
: Not anyone is as lucky as you or me or other lesbians on the board.
: People are different.
: Marriages mean different things to different people.
d*w
448 楼
这里有未成年吗?可以不同意,但貌似也没那个必要去批判,每个人都有自己的活法和
背后的故事。listen,observe,share,learn,but plz don't judge....
背后的故事。listen,observe,share,learn,but plz don't judge....
s*n
449 楼
我真不觉得楼主有你想的这么坏。
你不真的了解她的情况。
再说人家就是想了解情况。 也没诚心想骗谁。真说不上坏在哪里。你不接受她这样的
生活,过你自己的就好了。
楼主就是需要找到和自己情况差不多的人。 估计不在这里。
人都有有苦处的时候。
to
to
breaking
eye
women?
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: K, I admit it wasn't nice to use "ugly" but it's the first word that came to
: my mind when I read "不想破坏家,也不想放下女人". Not to be too cynical,
: but what kind of oxymoron question is this?! If you wanna remain married to
: a guy then there's no way you can have a woman on the side without breaking
: the family. Unless of course, you are psychopathic and can turn a blind eye
: to other's pain.
: Whoever wrote the post is certainly not Lily. What she wants to be is more
: like Katie in Tipping the velvet and Vita Sackville. Can you justify Katie
: wanting to remain married to Walter while having Nan or Vita pretty much
: ignoring her husband and son while having relationships with numerous women?
你不真的了解她的情况。
再说人家就是想了解情况。 也没诚心想骗谁。真说不上坏在哪里。你不接受她这样的
生活,过你自己的就好了。
楼主就是需要找到和自己情况差不多的人。 估计不在这里。
人都有有苦处的时候。
to
to
breaking
eye
women?
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: K, I admit it wasn't nice to use "ugly" but it's the first word that came to
: my mind when I read "不想破坏家,也不想放下女人". Not to be too cynical,
: but what kind of oxymoron question is this?! If you wanna remain married to
: a guy then there's no way you can have a woman on the side without breaking
: the family. Unless of course, you are psychopathic and can turn a blind eye
: to other's pain.
: Whoever wrote the post is certainly not Lily. What she wants to be is more
: like Katie in Tipping the velvet and Vita Sackville. Can you justify Katie
: wanting to remain married to Walter while having Nan or Vita pretty much
: ignoring her husband and son while having relationships with numerous women?
s*n
450 楼
因为众人都觉得自己不容易。 好不容易当了拉拉,受了这么多苦。却有人想啥都占着
。。。但是啥都占着容易阿。
个人认为爱有很多种。 也许有的女人对另一个女人有依恋和性的吸引,但是又放弃不
了自己的丈夫。 我没觉得这个又那么难以理解。
相反,这更让我觉得人性的复杂。 更让我觉得生活的不容易。 当自己有了说不出的苦
处, 我也可以告诉自己,世界不是黑白的。 只要真诚。。。
就想拉拉有时候爱上直人女孩子,很苦恼。 但多数情况下,还是很享受那种暧昧,即
使不能称为女朋友,想想也不错。人生太复杂了。
)
有人
lesb
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得这是两个问题 也是版上一直以来的一个误区
: 双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
: 我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
: 而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
: 即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
: 所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
: ians另眼相看呢?
:
: tolerate
。。。但是啥都占着容易阿。
个人认为爱有很多种。 也许有的女人对另一个女人有依恋和性的吸引,但是又放弃不
了自己的丈夫。 我没觉得这个又那么难以理解。
相反,这更让我觉得人性的复杂。 更让我觉得生活的不容易。 当自己有了说不出的苦
处, 我也可以告诉自己,世界不是黑白的。 只要真诚。。。
就想拉拉有时候爱上直人女孩子,很苦恼。 但多数情况下,还是很享受那种暧昧,即
使不能称为女朋友,想想也不错。人生太复杂了。
)
有人
lesb
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得这是两个问题 也是版上一直以来的一个误区
: 双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
: 我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
: 而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
: 即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
: 所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
: ians另眼相看呢?
:
: tolerate
s*n
451 楼
因为众人都觉得自己不容易。 好不容易当了拉拉,受了这么多苦。却有人想啥都占着
。。。但是啥都占着容易阿。
个人认为爱有很多种。 也许有的女人对另一个女人有依恋和性的吸引,但是又放弃不
了自己的丈夫。 我没觉得这个又那么难以理解。
相反,这更让我觉得人性的复杂。 更让我觉得生活的不容易。 当自己有了说不出的苦
处, 我也可以告诉自己,世界不是黑白的。 只要真诚。。。
就想拉拉有时候爱上直人女孩子,很苦恼。 但多数情况下,还是很享受那种暧昧,即
使不能称为女朋友,想想也不错。人生太复杂了。
)
有人
lesb
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得这是两个问题 也是版上一直以来的一个误区
: 双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
: 我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
: 而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
: 即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
: 所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
: ians另眼相看呢?
:
: tolerate
。。。但是啥都占着容易阿。
个人认为爱有很多种。 也许有的女人对另一个女人有依恋和性的吸引,但是又放弃不
了自己的丈夫。 我没觉得这个又那么难以理解。
相反,这更让我觉得人性的复杂。 更让我觉得生活的不容易。 当自己有了说不出的苦
处, 我也可以告诉自己,世界不是黑白的。 只要真诚。。。
就想拉拉有时候爱上直人女孩子,很苦恼。 但多数情况下,还是很享受那种暧昧,即
使不能称为女朋友,想想也不错。人生太复杂了。
)
有人
lesb
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得这是两个问题 也是版上一直以来的一个误区
: 双性恋 或已婚拉拉 ≠ polygamy/多夫多妻制
: 我个人不反对双性恋或已婚拉拉 相反我觉得她们本来就属于LGBT Community
: 而版上很多人反对她们的原因多数是 既定认为她们必然劈腿多脚踩多只船(polygamy)
: 即使连普通交友或发帖聊天也算在内(个人觉得很可笑) 可却忘了这种行为发生在所有人
: 所有性取向中 发生的几率也不分伯仲吧 问题是众人又为何单单对bi or married lesb
: ians另眼相看呢?
:
: tolerate
s*n
452 楼
我倒是很害怕那种,homophobic, 的已婚女人。
多点双性恋多好阿。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 因为众人都觉得自己不容易。 好不容易当了拉拉,受了这么多苦。却有人想啥都占着
: 。。。但是啥都占着容易阿。
: 个人认为爱有很多种。 也许有的女人对另一个女人有依恋和性的吸引,但是又放弃不
: 了自己的丈夫。 我没觉得这个又那么难以理解。
: 相反,这更让我觉得人性的复杂。 更让我觉得生活的不容易。 当自己有了说不出的苦
: 处, 我也可以告诉自己,世界不是黑白的。 只要真诚。。。
: 就想拉拉有时候爱上直人女孩子,很苦恼。 但多数情况下,还是很享受那种暧昧,即
: 使不能称为女朋友,想想也不错。人生太复杂了。
:
: )
多点双性恋多好阿。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 因为众人都觉得自己不容易。 好不容易当了拉拉,受了这么多苦。却有人想啥都占着
: 。。。但是啥都占着容易阿。
: 个人认为爱有很多种。 也许有的女人对另一个女人有依恋和性的吸引,但是又放弃不
: 了自己的丈夫。 我没觉得这个又那么难以理解。
: 相反,这更让我觉得人性的复杂。 更让我觉得生活的不容易。 当自己有了说不出的苦
: 处, 我也可以告诉自己,世界不是黑白的。 只要真诚。。。
: 就想拉拉有时候爱上直人女孩子,很苦恼。 但多数情况下,还是很享受那种暧昧,即
: 使不能称为女朋友,想想也不错。人生太复杂了。
:
: )
g*1
453 楼
楼主还没说几句,底下就先热闹了。要不等楼主来说说故事。
s*n
454 楼
Vita Sackville is the inspiration of Virginia Wolf. She has 1000 reasons to
seduce Virginia Woolf and perhaps gave her the real pleasure she deserved.
to
to
breaking
eye
women?
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: K, I admit it wasn't nice to use "ugly" but it's the first word that came to
: my mind when I read "不想破坏家,也不想放下女人". Not to be too cynical,
: but what kind of oxymoron question is this?! If you wanna remain married to
: a guy then there's no way you can have a woman on the side without breaking
: the family. Unless of course, you are psychopathic and can turn a blind eye
: to other's pain.
: Whoever wrote the post is certainly not Lily. What she wants to be is more
: like Katie in Tipping the velvet and Vita Sackville. Can you justify Katie
: wanting to remain married to Walter while having Nan or Vita pretty much
: ignoring her husband and son while having relationships with numerous women?
seduce Virginia Woolf and perhaps gave her the real pleasure she deserved.
to
to
breaking
eye
women?
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: K, I admit it wasn't nice to use "ugly" but it's the first word that came to
: my mind when I read "不想破坏家,也不想放下女人". Not to be too cynical,
: but what kind of oxymoron question is this?! If you wanna remain married to
: a guy then there's no way you can have a woman on the side without breaking
: the family. Unless of course, you are psychopathic and can turn a blind eye
: to other's pain.
: Whoever wrote the post is certainly not Lily. What she wants to be is more
: like Katie in Tipping the velvet and Vita Sackville. Can you justify Katie
: wanting to remain married to Walter while having Nan or Vita pretty much
: ignoring her husband and son while having relationships with numerous women?
s*n
457 楼
Ethically 是个很复杂的问题。
married
end
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: If you are ugly then please do everyone a favor and stay put.
: If all you want is sex, 100 bucks go a long way in Las Vegas.
: If you don't want to spend the money but you are super pretty you can
: probably find a naive young T who's happy to be your weekend sex partner.
: If you want more than just sex then you should find another married woman
: who wants exactly what you want (i.e., have a lover but still remain married
: ).
: Ethically speaking, if you are determined to stay married to a guy, you
: should just bury your lesbian desire. Otherwise you'll almost certainly end
: up hurting others just like in the vid below (scene starts at 11:55).
married
end
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: If you are ugly then please do everyone a favor and stay put.
: If all you want is sex, 100 bucks go a long way in Las Vegas.
: If you don't want to spend the money but you are super pretty you can
: probably find a naive young T who's happy to be your weekend sex partner.
: If you want more than just sex then you should find another married woman
: who wants exactly what you want (i.e., have a lover but still remain married
: ).
: Ethically speaking, if you are determined to stay married to a guy, you
: should just bury your lesbian desire. Otherwise you'll almost certainly end
: up hurting others just like in the vid below (scene starts at 11:55).
y*k
460 楼
Vita Sackville got tired of Virginia Woolf pretty quickly. The latter was
left devastated. It's true Vita inspired Virginia to write Orlando but does
that make it right for her to do what she did? World War II inspired a lot
of great literature and movies but does it make Hitler less of an evil?
In fact, Virginia Woolf didn't mention Vita in her inspired-me thank list
which made Vita's son pretty upset like he couldn't figure out why.
to
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Vita Sackville is the inspiration of Virginia Wolf. She has 1000 reasons to
: seduce Virginia Woolf and perhaps gave her the real pleasure she deserved.
:
: to
: to
: breaking
: eye
: women?
left devastated. It's true Vita inspired Virginia to write Orlando but does
that make it right for her to do what she did? World War II inspired a lot
of great literature and movies but does it make Hitler less of an evil?
In fact, Virginia Woolf didn't mention Vita in her inspired-me thank list
which made Vita's son pretty upset like he couldn't figure out why.
to
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Vita Sackville is the inspiration of Virginia Wolf. She has 1000 reasons to
: seduce Virginia Woolf and perhaps gave her the real pleasure she deserved.
:
: to
: to
: breaking
: eye
: women?
c*e
461 楼
Aight, here's my take. I'm not sure what the exact situation or puzzle bothe
rs LZ since she only briefly said it. But one thing I know is that she hasn'
t figured her life out yet. If you already have your life figured, good for
you.
Who wouldn't choose an easier life if there were a choice? living in a
better world, where doing things without having their motives questioned or
judged. However, life doesn't always go the way we plan out. Sometimes
people fight it,try and keep things the same with others, not let it throw
them off balance. Things can't go as we wish though, it's how we grow and
learn. And it must be painful to LZ, as well as everyone else in many terms.
So just let her speak.
to
to
breaking
eye
women?
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: K, I admit it wasn't nice to use "ugly" but it's the first word that came to
: my mind when I read "不想破坏家,也不想放下女人". Not to be too cynical,
: but what kind of oxymoron question is this?! If you wanna remain married to
: a guy then there's no way you can have a woman on the side without breaking
: the family. Unless of course, you are psychopathic and can turn a blind eye
: to other's pain.
: Whoever wrote the post is certainly not Lily. What she wants to be is more
: like Katie in Tipping the velvet and Vita Sackville. Can you justify Katie
: wanting to remain married to Walter while having Nan or Vita pretty much
: ignoring her husband and son while having relationships with numerous women?
rs LZ since she only briefly said it. But one thing I know is that she hasn'
t figured her life out yet. If you already have your life figured, good for
you.
Who wouldn't choose an easier life if there were a choice? living in a
better world, where doing things without having their motives questioned or
judged. However, life doesn't always go the way we plan out. Sometimes
people fight it,try and keep things the same with others, not let it throw
them off balance. Things can't go as we wish though, it's how we grow and
learn. And it must be painful to LZ, as well as everyone else in many terms.
So just let her speak.
to
to
breaking
eye
women?
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: K, I admit it wasn't nice to use "ugly" but it's the first word that came to
: my mind when I read "不想破坏家,也不想放下女人". Not to be too cynical,
: but what kind of oxymoron question is this?! If you wanna remain married to
: a guy then there's no way you can have a woman on the side without breaking
: the family. Unless of course, you are psychopathic and can turn a blind eye
: to other's pain.
: Whoever wrote the post is certainly not Lily. What she wants to be is more
: like Katie in Tipping the velvet and Vita Sackville. Can you justify Katie
: wanting to remain married to Walter while having Nan or Vita pretty much
: ignoring her husband and son while having relationships with numerous women?
s*n
462 楼
whatever. There is no "morality" involved here I dont' think. There are
many love affairs like this in human history. I won't try to judge them.
One can only be responsible for one's life. Trying to put morality onto
other people's life is hard.
does
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Vita Sackville got tired of Virginia Woolf pretty quickly. The latter was
: left devastated. It's true Vita inspired Virginia to write Orlando but does
: that make it right for her to do what she did? World War II inspired a lot
: of great literature and movies but does it make Hitler less of an evil?
: In fact, Virginia Woolf didn't mention Vita in her inspired-me thank list
: which made Vita's son pretty upset like he couldn't figure out why.
:
: to
many love affairs like this in human history. I won't try to judge them.
One can only be responsible for one's life. Trying to put morality onto
other people's life is hard.
does
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Vita Sackville got tired of Virginia Woolf pretty quickly. The latter was
: left devastated. It's true Vita inspired Virginia to write Orlando but does
: that make it right for her to do what she did? World War II inspired a lot
: of great literature and movies but does it make Hitler less of an evil?
: In fact, Virginia Woolf didn't mention Vita in her inspired-me thank list
: which made Vita's son pretty upset like he couldn't figure out why.
:
: to
s*n
463 楼
其实我以前也想的和酸奶差不多。 但是经历让我意识到,许多事情你是不能预测的,
很多情况是不能黑白分明的。关键是每个人的处境是差别很大的。 有些苦衷也许你根
本想不到。
最近看王小波的散文,我觉得王小波是真正的自由主义者, 他的观点和道德并不矛盾
,但是却非常宽容。 他看上去针砭时弊,实际是非常的辽阔自由,在人生不如意的时
候,看看王小波,真是高兴。
bothe
hasn'
for
thing
a
things
as
a
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Aight, here's my take. I'm not sure what the exact situation or puzzle bothe
: rs LZ since she only briefly said it. But one thing I know is that she hasn'
: t figured her life out yet. If you already have your life figured, good for
: you.
: Who wouldn't choose an easier life if there were a choice? living in a
: better world, where doing things without having their motives questioned or
: judged. However, life doesn't always go the way we plan out. Sometimes
: people fight it,try and keep things the same with others, not let it throw
: them off balance. Things can't go as we wish though, it's how we grow and
: learn. And it must be painful to LZ, as well as everyone else in many terms.
很多情况是不能黑白分明的。关键是每个人的处境是差别很大的。 有些苦衷也许你根
本想不到。
最近看王小波的散文,我觉得王小波是真正的自由主义者, 他的观点和道德并不矛盾
,但是却非常宽容。 他看上去针砭时弊,实际是非常的辽阔自由,在人生不如意的时
候,看看王小波,真是高兴。
bothe
hasn'
for
thing
a
things
as
a
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Aight, here's my take. I'm not sure what the exact situation or puzzle bothe
: rs LZ since she only briefly said it. But one thing I know is that she hasn'
: t figured her life out yet. If you already have your life figured, good for
: you.
: Who wouldn't choose an easier life if there were a choice? living in a
: better world, where doing things without having their motives questioned or
: judged. However, life doesn't always go the way we plan out. Sometimes
: people fight it,try and keep things the same with others, not let it throw
: them off balance. Things can't go as we wish though, it's how we grow and
: learn. And it must be painful to LZ, as well as everyone else in many terms.
s*n
464 楼
你说的不错。
bothe
hasn'
for
judged.
fight
balance.
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Aight, here's my take. I'm not sure what the exact situation or puzzle bothe
: rs LZ since she only briefly said it. But one thing I know is that she hasn'
: t figured her life out yet. If you already have your life figured, good for
: you.
: Who wouldn't choose an easier life if there were a choice? living in a
: better world, where doing things without having their motives questioned or
: judged. However, life doesn't always go the way we plan out. Sometimes
: people fight it,try and keep things the same with others, not let it throw
: them off balance. Things can't go as we wish though, it's how we grow and
: learn. And it must be painful to LZ, as well as everyone else in many terms.
bothe
hasn'
for
judged.
fight
balance.
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Aight, here's my take. I'm not sure what the exact situation or puzzle bothe
: rs LZ since she only briefly said it. But one thing I know is that she hasn'
: t figured her life out yet. If you already have your life figured, good for
: you.
: Who wouldn't choose an easier life if there were a choice? living in a
: better world, where doing things without having their motives questioned or
: judged. However, life doesn't always go the way we plan out. Sometimes
: people fight it,try and keep things the same with others, not let it throw
: them off balance. Things can't go as we wish though, it's how we grow and
: learn. And it must be painful to LZ, as well as everyone else in many terms.
s*n
465 楼
it is amazing... you watched all these erotic lesbian movies but still hold
pretty rigid morality. If you are truly so naive, maybe it is good for you
and I hope you will continue to enjoy your pure life. It is really a
blessing. I am serious. But not everyone could be this lucky.
does
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Vita Sackville got tired of Virginia Woolf pretty quickly. The latter was
: left devastated. It's true Vita inspired Virginia to write Orlando but does
: that make it right for her to do what she did? World War II inspired a lot
: of great literature and movies but does it make Hitler less of an evil?
: In fact, Virginia Woolf didn't mention Vita in her inspired-me thank list
: which made Vita's son pretty upset like he couldn't figure out why.
:
: to
pretty rigid morality. If you are truly so naive, maybe it is good for you
and I hope you will continue to enjoy your pure life. It is really a
blessing. I am serious. But not everyone could be this lucky.
does
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Vita Sackville got tired of Virginia Woolf pretty quickly. The latter was
: left devastated. It's true Vita inspired Virginia to write Orlando but does
: that make it right for her to do what she did? World War II inspired a lot
: of great literature and movies but does it make Hitler less of an evil?
: In fact, Virginia Woolf didn't mention Vita in her inspired-me thank list
: which made Vita's son pretty upset like he couldn't figure out why.
:
: to
e*h
467 楼
女人就是事多。 人家自个人的事。我们管得着嘛。
我觉的LZ这样最好找个和自己情况一样的。 不想离婚又想要女朋友的就好啦。这样的
应该有的。
我觉的LZ这样最好找个和自己情况一样的。 不想离婚又想要女朋友的就好啦。这样的
应该有的。
y*k
475 楼
You are missing my point.
First of all, you can't judge a person's moral ground based on whether they
watch erotic lesbian movies. Although in my case, it happens to true that I
love erotic lesbian movies and I'm also in NO way morally rigid.
If it's LZ's cup of tea to have sex with a woman while still married or even
having the husband watches or participates, good for her. I've gotta
nothing against it, whatsoever. In fact, if she records it and puts it up on
xtube, I might even grace the clip with 5 seconds of attention. But don't
look for your playmate in this board. LZ'll have better luck with Craigslist
.
You are blaming me for being not welcoming or tolerant enough. I'll tell you
what's going to happen if I do. Before you know it, some naive young T (for
the record, I don't regret using this term at all. You know how young
hearts are, especially T's. We think we are strong and capable of everything
. We think we can handle relationship with only sex like guys do. But the
truth is we often overestimate our "masculinity") falls for the trap. Put
aside the "eww" effect of having to share a V with a penis on a regular
basis or any of the hygienic concerns come with it, the young T will almost
certainly fall in love. If she pushes for more, she'll be fed the usual bs
of "I don't deserve you. You should go find someone else more like you. I
have a family. I can't break my family..." Yeah right, like she's doing a
favor to the T. Bollocks!
I kill every rat who dares set foot in my house. Does it make me intolerant
and not-welcoming? Hardly. If anything, I'm being protective of the young
and naive.
The bottom line is, you've gotta look at a person's intention. It makes all
the difference. A robbery hits upon you, you kill the robber. It's self
defense. Plan on killing someone and getting away with it, it's called
attempting murder. Fall in love with a woman by accident while still married
, though all parties involved still inevitably get hurt, is acceptable and
good for movies. Get out of your way to look for a lesbian love while
determined to stay married is one big rat I make my duty to sweep out of our
house.
hold
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: it is amazing... you watched all these erotic lesbian movies but still hold
: pretty rigid morality. If you are truly so naive, maybe it is good for you
: and I hope you will continue to enjoy your pure life. It is really a
: blessing. I am serious. But not everyone could be this lucky.
:
: does
First of all, you can't judge a person's moral ground based on whether they
watch erotic lesbian movies. Although in my case, it happens to true that I
love erotic lesbian movies and I'm also in NO way morally rigid.
If it's LZ's cup of tea to have sex with a woman while still married or even
having the husband watches or participates, good for her. I've gotta
nothing against it, whatsoever. In fact, if she records it and puts it up on
xtube, I might even grace the clip with 5 seconds of attention. But don't
look for your playmate in this board. LZ'll have better luck with Craigslist
.
You are blaming me for being not welcoming or tolerant enough. I'll tell you
what's going to happen if I do. Before you know it, some naive young T (for
the record, I don't regret using this term at all. You know how young
hearts are, especially T's. We think we are strong and capable of everything
. We think we can handle relationship with only sex like guys do. But the
truth is we often overestimate our "masculinity") falls for the trap. Put
aside the "eww" effect of having to share a V with a penis on a regular
basis or any of the hygienic concerns come with it, the young T will almost
certainly fall in love. If she pushes for more, she'll be fed the usual bs
of "I don't deserve you. You should go find someone else more like you. I
have a family. I can't break my family..." Yeah right, like she's doing a
favor to the T. Bollocks!
I kill every rat who dares set foot in my house. Does it make me intolerant
and not-welcoming? Hardly. If anything, I'm being protective of the young
and naive.
The bottom line is, you've gotta look at a person's intention. It makes all
the difference. A robbery hits upon you, you kill the robber. It's self
defense. Plan on killing someone and getting away with it, it's called
attempting murder. Fall in love with a woman by accident while still married
, though all parties involved still inevitably get hurt, is acceptable and
good for movies. Get out of your way to look for a lesbian love while
determined to stay married is one big rat I make my duty to sweep out of our
house.
hold
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: it is amazing... you watched all these erotic lesbian movies but still hold
: pretty rigid morality. If you are truly so naive, maybe it is good for you
: and I hope you will continue to enjoy your pure life. It is really a
: blessing. I am serious. But not everyone could be this lucky.
:
: does
z*e
476 楼
靠。。本来想跳进来看热闹的。。结果楼主已经跑了。。
我说,大家好歹阳谋一下,引蛇出动好勿啦
我说,大家好歹阳谋一下,引蛇出动好勿啦
c*e
477 楼
but looks like you already have their life story ploted.
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: You are missing my point.
: First of all, you can't judge a person's moral ground based on whether they
: watch erotic lesbian movies. Although in my case, it happens to true that I
: love erotic lesbian movies and I'm also in NO way morally rigid.
: If it's LZ's cup of tea to have sex with a woman while still married or even
: having the husband watches or participates, good for her. I've gotta
: nothing against it, whatsoever. In fact, if she records it and puts it up on
: xtube, I might even grace the clip with 5 seconds of attention. But don't
: look for your playmate in this board. LZ'll have better luck with Craigslist
: .
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: You are missing my point.
: First of all, you can't judge a person's moral ground based on whether they
: watch erotic lesbian movies. Although in my case, it happens to true that I
: love erotic lesbian movies and I'm also in NO way morally rigid.
: If it's LZ's cup of tea to have sex with a woman while still married or even
: having the husband watches or participates, good for her. I've gotta
: nothing against it, whatsoever. In fact, if she records it and puts it up on
: xtube, I might even grace the clip with 5 seconds of attention. But don't
: look for your playmate in this board. LZ'll have better luck with Craigslist
: .
L*y
478 楼
就算你 *推测* 的楼主的目的是对的,"young & naive" 的T真的需要你的保护吗?说
不定人家各取所需。说不定过度保护反而推迟了成熟所必须经历的伤害。
they
I
even
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.7
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: You are missing my point.
: First of all, you can't judge a person's moral ground based on whether they
: watch erotic lesbian movies. Although in my case, it happens to true that I
: love erotic lesbian movies and I'm also in NO way morally rigid.
: If it's LZ's cup of tea to have sex with a woman while still married or even
: having the husband watches or participates, good for her. I've gotta
: nothing against it, whatsoever. In fact, if she records it and puts it up on
: xtube, I might even grace the clip with 5 seconds of attention. But don't
: look for your playmate in this board. LZ'll have better luck with Craigslist
: .
不定人家各取所需。说不定过度保护反而推迟了成熟所必须经历的伤害。
they
I
even
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.7
【在 y********k 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: You are missing my point.
: First of all, you can't judge a person's moral ground based on whether they
: watch erotic lesbian movies. Although in my case, it happens to true that I
: love erotic lesbian movies and I'm also in NO way morally rigid.
: If it's LZ's cup of tea to have sex with a woman while still married or even
: having the husband watches or participates, good for her. I've gotta
: nothing against it, whatsoever. In fact, if she records it and puts it up on
: xtube, I might even grace the clip with 5 seconds of attention. But don't
: look for your playmate in this board. LZ'll have better luck with Craigslist
: .
T*k
479 楼
n*h
497 楼
就知道这帖子会发展成道德争论帖
这世上有太多界定的“因该”和“不因该”,自己的事情自己做主吧
这世上有太多界定的“因该”和“不因该”,自己的事情自己做主吧
r*x
498 楼
没想到这个贴这么热闹,
不管你们是谅解还是鄙视,
事实上和我处境类似的,不少,
我已婚很多年了,一起生活的很和谐。
我也是婚后才知道自己也喜欢女人,具体原因就不说了,每个人都有自己的故事。
我不否认我是双,但自从喜欢上女人之后,我便不能接受男人了,唯一例外的,是老公。
如果时间能退回到结婚前,我当然想走一回义无反顾的les之路。
如今,我一直感到遗憾,心里有些空虚,
我想要个女人,可以沁我心脾,不用在一起,有一个精神寄托就可以。
呵呵,你们要说我是精神出轨,我也认了。
男人很难走进女人心里,很难懂女人想要什么。
不管你们是谅解还是鄙视,
事实上和我处境类似的,不少,
我已婚很多年了,一起生活的很和谐。
我也是婚后才知道自己也喜欢女人,具体原因就不说了,每个人都有自己的故事。
我不否认我是双,但自从喜欢上女人之后,我便不能接受男人了,唯一例外的,是老公。
如果时间能退回到结婚前,我当然想走一回义无反顾的les之路。
如今,我一直感到遗憾,心里有些空虚,
我想要个女人,可以沁我心脾,不用在一起,有一个精神寄托就可以。
呵呵,你们要说我是精神出轨,我也认了。
男人很难走进女人心里,很难懂女人想要什么。
n*h
499 楼
菇凉,你刚来发帖我就猜出7,8分了,虽然寥寥数语。
如果你能明确知道自己要什么,便可。
我和你情况相似,不同的是,我遇到了让我动心的人,她也是已婚。以前在这里发过帖
子,盖了栋高楼,后来我申请删除了,不是因为被拍,相反这里有一些很是善解人意的
女子,只是觉得自己的故事,还是不要挂在这么大的论坛上招摇。
预防针:有些事情,别人不明白不理解的,不用去说服别人,理解的自然会理解,跟个
人经历有关。
公。
【在 r**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 没想到这个贴这么热闹,
: 不管你们是谅解还是鄙视,
: 事实上和我处境类似的,不少,
: 我已婚很多年了,一起生活的很和谐。
: 我也是婚后才知道自己也喜欢女人,具体原因就不说了,每个人都有自己的故事。
: 我不否认我是双,但自从喜欢上女人之后,我便不能接受男人了,唯一例外的,是老公。
: 如果时间能退回到结婚前,我当然想走一回义无反顾的les之路。
: 如今,我一直感到遗憾,心里有些空虚,
: 我想要个女人,可以沁我心脾,不用在一起,有一个精神寄托就可以。
: 呵呵,你们要说我是精神出轨,我也认了。
如果你能明确知道自己要什么,便可。
我和你情况相似,不同的是,我遇到了让我动心的人,她也是已婚。以前在这里发过帖
子,盖了栋高楼,后来我申请删除了,不是因为被拍,相反这里有一些很是善解人意的
女子,只是觉得自己的故事,还是不要挂在这么大的论坛上招摇。
预防针:有些事情,别人不明白不理解的,不用去说服别人,理解的自然会理解,跟个
人经历有关。
公。
【在 r**x 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 没想到这个贴这么热闹,
: 不管你们是谅解还是鄙视,
: 事实上和我处境类似的,不少,
: 我已婚很多年了,一起生活的很和谐。
: 我也是婚后才知道自己也喜欢女人,具体原因就不说了,每个人都有自己的故事。
: 我不否认我是双,但自从喜欢上女人之后,我便不能接受男人了,唯一例外的,是老公。
: 如果时间能退回到结婚前,我当然想走一回义无反顾的les之路。
: 如今,我一直感到遗憾,心里有些空虚,
: 我想要个女人,可以沁我心脾,不用在一起,有一个精神寄托就可以。
: 呵呵,你们要说我是精神出轨,我也认了。
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