m*1
2 楼
我从来都不爱看拉拉片,不过这个貌似是个正经导演拍的不错的片子,我也想看。。
d*0
5 楼
新片吗?
y*k
6 楼
Review of the movie from the writer
I consider that [director Abdellatif] Kechiche and I have contradictory
aesthetic approaches, perhaps complementary. The fashion in which he chose
to shoot these scenes is coherent with the rest of what he his creation.
Sure, to me it seems far away from my own method of creation and
representation, but it would be very silly of me to reject something on the
pretext that's it different from my own vision.
That's me as a writer. Now, as a lesbian...
It appears to me this was what was missing on the set: lesbians.
I don't know the sources of information for the director and the actresses (
who are all straight, unless proven otherwise) and I was never consulted
upstream. Maybe there was someone there to awkwardly imitate the possible
positions with their hands, and/or to show them some porn of so-called "
lesbians" (unfortunately it's hardly ever actually for a lesbian audience).
Because -- except for a few passages -- this is all that it brings to my
mind: a brutal and surgical display, exuberant and cold, of so-called
lesbian sex, which turned into porn, and me feel very ill at ease.
Especially when, in the middle of a movie theater, everyone was giggling.
The heteronormative laughed because they don't understand it and find the
scene ridiculous. The gay and queer people laughed because it's not
convincing, and found it ridiculous. And among the only people we didn't
hear giggling were the potential guys too busy feasting their eyes on an
incarnation of their fantasies on screen.
I totally get Kechiche's will to film pleasure. The way he filmed these
scenes is to me directly related to another scene, in which several
characters talk about the myth of the feminine orgasm, as...mystic and far
superior to the masculine one. But here we go, to sacralize once more
womanhood in such ways. I find it dangerous.
As a feminist and lesbian spectator, I can not endorse the direction
Kechiche took on these matters.
But I'm also looking forward to what other women will think about it. This
is simply my personal stance.
I consider that [director Abdellatif] Kechiche and I have contradictory
aesthetic approaches, perhaps complementary. The fashion in which he chose
to shoot these scenes is coherent with the rest of what he his creation.
Sure, to me it seems far away from my own method of creation and
representation, but it would be very silly of me to reject something on the
pretext that's it different from my own vision.
That's me as a writer. Now, as a lesbian...
It appears to me this was what was missing on the set: lesbians.
I don't know the sources of information for the director and the actresses (
who are all straight, unless proven otherwise) and I was never consulted
upstream. Maybe there was someone there to awkwardly imitate the possible
positions with their hands, and/or to show them some porn of so-called "
lesbians" (unfortunately it's hardly ever actually for a lesbian audience).
Because -- except for a few passages -- this is all that it brings to my
mind: a brutal and surgical display, exuberant and cold, of so-called
lesbian sex, which turned into porn, and me feel very ill at ease.
Especially when, in the middle of a movie theater, everyone was giggling.
The heteronormative laughed because they don't understand it and find the
scene ridiculous. The gay and queer people laughed because it's not
convincing, and found it ridiculous. And among the only people we didn't
hear giggling were the potential guys too busy feasting their eyes on an
incarnation of their fantasies on screen.
I totally get Kechiche's will to film pleasure. The way he filmed these
scenes is to me directly related to another scene, in which several
characters talk about the myth of the feminine orgasm, as...mystic and far
superior to the masculine one. But here we go, to sacralize once more
womanhood in such ways. I find it dangerous.
As a feminist and lesbian spectator, I can not endorse the direction
Kechiche took on these matters.
But I'm also looking forward to what other women will think about it. This
is simply my personal stance.
s*n
15 楼
也不是。 我说不上来。我想看的电影, 不仅停留在由于性取向有意思的方向,还有点
其他的东西。
你看过候麦的电影嘛?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006445/
【在 m******1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 你要的这种拉拉片有啊,kids are alright.
其他的东西。
你看过候麦的电影嘛?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006445/
【在 m******1 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 你要的这种拉拉片有啊,kids are alright.
m*1
17 楼
没看过候麦的电影,我觉得kids are alright就和性取向没有关系啊,讲的就是中年危
机、婚外情、母子(母女)关系、家庭教育。。。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 也不是。 我说不上来。我想看的电影, 不仅停留在由于性取向有意思的方向,还有点
: 其他的东西。
: 你看过候麦的电影嘛?
: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006445/
机、婚外情、母子(母女)关系、家庭教育。。。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 也不是。 我说不上来。我想看的电影, 不仅停留在由于性取向有意思的方向,还有点
: 其他的东西。
: 你看过候麦的电影嘛?
: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006445/
y*5
18 楼
看了kids are alright~
尘归尘,土归土,到了40,养两个娃,stright couple和same sex couple真的差不多
。。。
尘归尘,土归土,到了40,养两个娃,stright couple和same sex couple真的差不多
。。。
w*9
21 楼
我也没看过侯麦的电影,倒是看过特吕弗,德西卡,安东尼奥尼,塔可夫斯基的一些作
品。
比较喜欢德西卡和塔可夫斯基的电影。
Les片看的不到十部,嘿嘿(发现自我比较晚)。
看过的,觉得周美玲的《刺青》不错,电影不仅描写了同性之爱,还探索了记忆,创伤
,亲情等话题。她的《漂浪青春》也挺不错的。
许鞍华的《得闲炒饭》虽然少了些台湾文艺电影的清新之气,但对现实的描写还是很实
际的。
两个直男,一个les,一个bi之间的感情纠葛,及组成的家庭都真实有启发意义。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 也不是。 我说不上来。我想看的电影, 不仅停留在由于性取向有意思的方向,还有点
: 其他的东西。
: 你看过候麦的电影嘛?
: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006445/
品。
比较喜欢德西卡和塔可夫斯基的电影。
Les片看的不到十部,嘿嘿(发现自我比较晚)。
看过的,觉得周美玲的《刺青》不错,电影不仅描写了同性之爱,还探索了记忆,创伤
,亲情等话题。她的《漂浪青春》也挺不错的。
许鞍华的《得闲炒饭》虽然少了些台湾文艺电影的清新之气,但对现实的描写还是很实
际的。
两个直男,一个les,一个bi之间的感情纠葛,及组成的家庭都真实有启发意义。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 也不是。 我说不上来。我想看的电影, 不仅停留在由于性取向有意思的方向,还有点
: 其他的东西。
: 你看过候麦的电影嘛?
: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006445/
w*8
22 楼
http://www.hulu.com/movies/genres/gay-and-lesbian
很多LGBT片,免费的,不过没看到这部
很多LGBT片,免费的,不过没看到这部
c*d
23 楼
ding
X*H
24 楼
风头正劲啊,好想看,哪里有没?
m*1
25 楼
我从来都不爱看拉拉片,不过这个貌似是个正经导演拍的不错的片子,我也想看。。
d*0
28 楼
新片吗?
y*k
29 楼
Review of the movie from the writer
I consider that [director Abdellatif] Kechiche and I have contradictory
aesthetic approaches, perhaps complementary. The fashion in which he chose
to shoot these scenes is coherent with the rest of what he his creation.
Sure, to me it seems far away from my own method of creation and
representation, but it would be very silly of me to reject something on the
pretext that's it different from my own vision.
That's me as a writer. Now, as a lesbian...
It appears to me this was what was missing on the set: lesbians.
I don't know the sources of information for the director and the actresses (
who are all straight, unless proven otherwise) and I was never consulted
upstream. Maybe there was someone there to awkwardly imitate the possible
positions with their hands, and/or to show them some porn of so-called "
lesbians" (unfortunately it's hardly ever actually for a lesbian audience).
Because -- except for a few passages -- this is all that it brings to my
mind: a brutal and surgical display, exuberant and cold, of so-called
lesbian sex, which turned into porn, and me feel very ill at ease.
Especially when, in the middle of a movie theater, everyone was giggling.
The heteronormative laughed because they don't understand it and find the
scene ridiculous. The gay and queer people laughed because it's not
convincing, and found it ridiculous. And among the only people we didn't
hear giggling were the potential guys too busy feasting their eyes on an
incarnation of their fantasies on screen.
I totally get Kechiche's will to film pleasure. The way he filmed these
scenes is to me directly related to another scene, in which several
characters talk about the myth of the feminine orgasm, as...mystic and far
superior to the masculine one. But here we go, to sacralize once more
womanhood in such ways. I find it dangerous.
As a feminist and lesbian spectator, I can not endorse the direction
Kechiche took on these matters.
But I'm also looking forward to what other women will think about it. This
is simply my personal stance.
I consider that [director Abdellatif] Kechiche and I have contradictory
aesthetic approaches, perhaps complementary. The fashion in which he chose
to shoot these scenes is coherent with the rest of what he his creation.
Sure, to me it seems far away from my own method of creation and
representation, but it would be very silly of me to reject something on the
pretext that's it different from my own vision.
That's me as a writer. Now, as a lesbian...
It appears to me this was what was missing on the set: lesbians.
I don't know the sources of information for the director and the actresses (
who are all straight, unless proven otherwise) and I was never consulted
upstream. Maybe there was someone there to awkwardly imitate the possible
positions with their hands, and/or to show them some porn of so-called "
lesbians" (unfortunately it's hardly ever actually for a lesbian audience).
Because -- except for a few passages -- this is all that it brings to my
mind: a brutal and surgical display, exuberant and cold, of so-called
lesbian sex, which turned into porn, and me feel very ill at ease.
Especially when, in the middle of a movie theater, everyone was giggling.
The heteronormative laughed because they don't understand it and find the
scene ridiculous. The gay and queer people laughed because it's not
convincing, and found it ridiculous. And among the only people we didn't
hear giggling were the potential guys too busy feasting their eyes on an
incarnation of their fantasies on screen.
I totally get Kechiche's will to film pleasure. The way he filmed these
scenes is to me directly related to another scene, in which several
characters talk about the myth of the feminine orgasm, as...mystic and far
superior to the masculine one. But here we go, to sacralize once more
womanhood in such ways. I find it dangerous.
As a feminist and lesbian spectator, I can not endorse the direction
Kechiche took on these matters.
But I'm also looking forward to what other women will think about it. This
is simply my personal stance.
s*n
38 楼
也不是。 我说不上来。我想看的电影, 不仅停留在由于性取向有意思的方向,还有点
其他的东西。
你看过候麦的电影嘛?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006445/
【在 m******1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 你要的这种拉拉片有啊,kids are alright.
其他的东西。
你看过候麦的电影嘛?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006445/
【在 m******1 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 你要的这种拉拉片有啊,kids are alright.
m*1
40 楼
没看过候麦的电影,我觉得kids are alright就和性取向没有关系啊,讲的就是中年危
机、婚外情、母子(母女)关系、家庭教育。。。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 也不是。 我说不上来。我想看的电影, 不仅停留在由于性取向有意思的方向,还有点
: 其他的东西。
: 你看过候麦的电影嘛?
: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006445/
机、婚外情、母子(母女)关系、家庭教育。。。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 也不是。 我说不上来。我想看的电影, 不仅停留在由于性取向有意思的方向,还有点
: 其他的东西。
: 你看过候麦的电影嘛?
: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006445/
y*5
41 楼
看了kids are alright~
尘归尘,土归土,到了40,养两个娃,stright couple和same sex couple真的差不多
。。。
尘归尘,土归土,到了40,养两个娃,stright couple和same sex couple真的差不多
。。。
w*9
44 楼
我也没看过侯麦的电影,倒是看过特吕弗,德西卡,安东尼奥尼,塔可夫斯基的一些作
品。
比较喜欢德西卡和塔可夫斯基的电影。
Les片看的不到十部,嘿嘿(发现自我比较晚)。
看过的,觉得周美玲的《刺青》不错,电影不仅描写了同性之爱,还探索了记忆,创伤
,亲情等话题。她的《漂浪青春》也挺不错的。
许鞍华的《得闲炒饭》虽然少了些台湾文艺电影的清新之气,但对现实的描写还是很实
际的。
两个直男,一个les,一个bi之间的感情纠葛,及组成的家庭都真实有启发意义。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 也不是。 我说不上来。我想看的电影, 不仅停留在由于性取向有意思的方向,还有点
: 其他的东西。
: 你看过候麦的电影嘛?
: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006445/
品。
比较喜欢德西卡和塔可夫斯基的电影。
Les片看的不到十部,嘿嘿(发现自我比较晚)。
看过的,觉得周美玲的《刺青》不错,电影不仅描写了同性之爱,还探索了记忆,创伤
,亲情等话题。她的《漂浪青春》也挺不错的。
许鞍华的《得闲炒饭》虽然少了些台湾文艺电影的清新之气,但对现实的描写还是很实
际的。
两个直男,一个les,一个bi之间的感情纠葛,及组成的家庭都真实有启发意义。
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 也不是。 我说不上来。我想看的电影, 不仅停留在由于性取向有意思的方向,还有点
: 其他的东西。
: 你看过候麦的电影嘛?
: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006445/
w*8
45 楼
http://www.hulu.com/movies/genres/gay-and-lesbian
很多LGBT片,免费的,不过没看到这部
很多LGBT片,免费的,不过没看到这部
c*d
46 楼
ding
T*i
48 楼
很赞。
纽约已经上了。还看了她们的采访,真不错。
[发表自未名空间手机版 - m.mitbbs.com]
纽约已经上了。还看了她们的采访,真不错。
[发表自未名空间手机版 - m.mitbbs.com]
X*H
49 楼
大城市真好,像我就只能等amazon instant video或者netflix这种了。。。。。。。
。
。
T*n
54 楼
镜头还很晃,看完以后头痛了半天,
小清新 + 家庭中不可调和的阶级矛盾 + 拉拉做爱指南,,,,
如果去掉最后一项,连获金鸡奖的可能都没有吧,,,
小清新 + 家庭中不可调和的阶级矛盾 + 拉拉做爱指南,,,,
如果去掉最后一项,连获金鸡奖的可能都没有吧,,,
X*Y
56 楼
NYC west 4 有一家可以看 有同去的么
h*e
60 楼
艺术化的电影用生活化的方式表现出来,不太常见.
如前面所说的,她们之间的矛盾和是否同性没有那么大的关系,是精神追求层面的区别造
成了以后的割裂.
今晚IFC的电影后会有对Adele的访问,呵呵.
如前面所说的,她们之间的矛盾和是否同性没有那么大的关系,是精神追求层面的区别造
成了以后的割裂.
今晚IFC的电影后会有对Adele的访问,呵呵.
e*h
62 楼
太太牛掰了。
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.2.2
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVgec_iM3Pg
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.2.2
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVgec_iM3Pg
c*h
65 楼
比我想象中好挺多的,虽然看到那些sex镜头一只打哈欠想直接关了算了。 那90后演的
巨好阿。
巨好阿。
f*3
68 楼
去快播。
不过说实话,我看完就忘了。
不过说实话,我看完就忘了。
c*d
74 楼
性爱场面挺好,两个人身材恰到好处,养眼。不过阿黛尔那永远合不上的嘴太让人抓狂。
T*i
76 楼
很赞。
纽约已经上了。还看了她们的采访,真不错。
[发表自未名空间手机版 - m.mitbbs.com]
纽约已经上了。还看了她们的采访,真不错。
[发表自未名空间手机版 - m.mitbbs.com]
X*H
77 楼
大城市真好,像我就只能等amazon instant video或者netflix这种了。。。。。。。
。
。
T*n
82 楼
镜头还很晃,看完以后头痛了半天,
小清新 + 家庭中不可调和的阶级矛盾 + 拉拉做爱指南,,,,
如果去掉最后一项,连获金鸡奖的可能都没有吧,,,
小清新 + 家庭中不可调和的阶级矛盾 + 拉拉做爱指南,,,,
如果去掉最后一项,连获金鸡奖的可能都没有吧,,,
X*Y
84 楼
NYC west 4 有一家可以看 有同去的么
h*e
88 楼
艺术化的电影用生活化的方式表现出来,不太常见.
如前面所说的,她们之间的矛盾和是否同性没有那么大的关系,是精神追求层面的区别造
成了以后的割裂.
今晚IFC的电影后会有对Adele的访问,呵呵.
如前面所说的,她们之间的矛盾和是否同性没有那么大的关系,是精神追求层面的区别造
成了以后的割裂.
今晚IFC的电影后会有对Adele的访问,呵呵.
e*h
90 楼
太太牛掰了。
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.2.2
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVgec_iM3Pg
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.2.2
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVgec_iM3Pg
c*h
93 楼
比我想象中好挺多的,虽然看到那些sex镜头一只打哈欠想直接关了算了。 那90后演的
巨好阿。
巨好阿。
f*3
96 楼
去快播。
不过说实话,我看完就忘了。
不过说实话,我看完就忘了。
c*d
102 楼
性爱场面挺好,两个人身材恰到好处,养眼。不过阿黛尔那永远合不上的嘴太让人抓狂。
F*y
103 楼
名字就很美,内容更是不错,值得一看。
E*n
104 楼
HULU PLUS!
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