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大家都实习用OPT还是CPT？

大家都实习用OPT还是CPT？# Law - 律师事务所

p*a2007-09-05 07:09

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我是半路出家的JD,OPT以前毕业时已经用了现在只有CPT.但是系里很变态的规定拿学分
实习就不可以拿钱。目前为止我知道的除了public interest以外的实习都是要发工资
的,想做义工都不行。这样子我就只能做public service/clerk了，不用说进law firm
，就是给教授做RA都不可以。郁闷～，这样的话读这个jd还有什么意思？大家有出出主
意我有什么办法可以搞到实习？有人听说过不给实习生发工资的law firm吗？

y*w2007-09-05 07:09

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是系里很变态的规定拿学分
实习就不可以拿钱
please!!! that's called externship, not intern. also in some states, you can
get paid when you are doing externship, as long as the wage does not exceed
certain amount (which is very low actually).

p*a2007-09-05 07:09

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CPT理论上说不都是externship吗？但是实际上很多系都可以让学生拿CPT去自己找的公
司实习挣钱的啊。其实我不在乎实习挣不挣钱，关键是公司不要义工。这样一来，我就
失去了进公司做实习的机会，以后毕业找firm的工作会很受影响。系里说给学分就不能
拿钱是ABA的规定，但是我没有查到。是不是真有这么条规定啊？

can
exceed

【在 y*w 的大作中提到】

: 是系里很变态的规定拿学分
: 实习就不可以拿钱
: please!!! that's called externship, not intern. also in some states, you can
: get paid when you are doing externship, as long as the wage does not exceed
: certain amount (which is very low actually).

y*w2007-09-05 07:09

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CPT理论上说不都是externship吗？ -- why?

【在 p**a 的大作中提到】

: CPT理论上说不都是externship吗？但是实际上很多系都可以让学生拿CPT去自己找的公
: 司实习挣钱的啊。其实我不在乎实习挣不挣钱，关键是公司不要义工。这样一来，我就
: 失去了进公司做实习的机会，以后毕业找firm的工作会很受影响。系里说给学分就不能
: 拿钱是ABA的规定，但是我没有查到。是不是真有这么条规定啊？
:
: can
: exceed

c*r2007-09-05 07:09

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What the fvck!?
Is this true? Better get to the bottom of it. I am in the same situation
though I am not in Law school yet.
Please don't let this be true.
What ABA regulation covers CPT? Where to look?

c*r2007-09-05 07:09

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Found the following from a law school, does it help?
Curricular Practical Training (CPT)
Work experience is an important part of a law school program and may be
considered Curricular Practical Training (CPT). Work experience includes
alternate work-study programs, internships,cooperative education programs,
and practicum experiences. The practical training must be required for the
student’s program, or the student must be enrolled in an official practicum
course where the student will receive ac

p*a2007-09-05 07:09

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Externship: a training program that is part of a course of study of an
educational institution and is taken in private business

【在 y*w 的大作中提到】

: CPT理论上说不都是externship吗？ -- why?

p*a2007-09-05 07:09

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Thanks. It looks like that the "credit or salary, not both" rule is not from
ABA then (I seriously hope so), since Cooley does offer CPT. Unless it has restrictions that are not pasted below.
Wish I had checked CPT policy with law schools before making the decision which one to attend. I simply took it for granted. 55

practicum
experience.

【在 c******r 的大作中提到】

: Found the following from a law school, does it help?
: Curricular Practical Training (CPT)
: Work experience is an important part of a law school program and may be
: considered Curricular Practical Training (CPT). Work experience includes
: alternate work-study programs, internships,cooperative education programs,
: and practicum experiences. The practical training must be required for the
: student’s program, or the student must be enrolled in an official practicum
: course where the student will receive ac

n*e2007-09-05 07:09

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some schools may give another year of OPT even though you used it before on
your ph.d. or m.s. the immigration rule isn't crystal clear on this issue,
and the schools have different interpretations. If the law school thinks it'
s OK and then makes the recommendation to INS about the OPT, INS won't
really second-check it.

p*a2007-09-05 07:09

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Checked. Law school says it depends on International Office,and IO says
absolutely no OPT for me.!_! They said PhD is the highest degree already;
plus there're LLM and SJD, so there's no way that JD is higher than PhD.
I also know ppl get OPT for JD after using the one for PhD. It all depends
on the school, and I happen to choose the wrong one. //sigh
If I can only do public service during 1L and 2L summers, is there still any
chance that I can get into firm after graduation??

on
it'

【在 n***e 的大作中提到】

: some schools may give another year of OPT even though you used it before on
: your ph.d. or m.s. the immigration rule isn't crystal clear on this issue,
: and the schools have different interpretations. If the law school thinks it'
: s OK and then makes the recommendation to INS about the OPT, INS won't
: really second-check it.

n*e2007-09-05 07:09

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after first year most people don't find paid internship anyway. second year
summer working for for public interest/clerkship isn't uncommon. although
you might be disadvantaged somehow, just try to get the best position you
can get, and I think you should be fine.