g*9
2 楼
Please DO NOT post any reply in this thread for easy reading, you can post
your comments or questions in AC 科普comment and question thread, thank you.
If you have questions, you can post in a new thread.
I intend to make a series of 科普 post when I have some free time to help
some less experienced people on board.
Info here are from my own personal experience and from some online sources.
Ok, let's get started.
My background on AC.
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/Living/31740963_0.html
The most comm
your comments or questions in AC 科普comment and question thread, thank you.
If you have questions, you can post in a new thread.
I intend to make a series of 科普 post when I have some free time to help
some less experienced people on board.
Info here are from my own personal experience and from some online sources.
Ok, let's get started.
My background on AC.
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/Living/31740963_0.html
The most comm
R*s
3 楼
可以
g*9
4 楼
My background:
I do not claim to be expert of any subject, I am here to share some info
with a few people that just got into their first house and could use some
help.
I have no experience (besides my own house and a few rental properties)
servicing and maintaining residential AC systems.
I do have experience design commercial HVAC system for a living for over 5
years, those are mostly for hospital and library, etc. I have learned a few
useful tips I am willing to share.
Not all FAQ is written b
I do not claim to be expert of any subject, I am here to share some info
with a few people that just got into their first house and could use some
help.
I have no experience (besides my own house and a few rental properties)
servicing and maintaining residential AC systems.
I do have experience design commercial HVAC system for a living for over 5
years, those are mostly for hospital and library, etc. I have learned a few
useful tips I am willing to share.
Not all FAQ is written b
s*0
5 楼
大概多少钱啊？谢谢
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 可以
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 可以
g*9
6 楼
The most common question people ask, "what is the most efficient (or
cheapest) AC system for me too cool my house?"
The short answer (given everything else being equal) contrary to popular
belief, is actually the AC that runs all the time to keep you just
comfortable. Which means, a 1 ton unit that runs 24 hours per day is going
to cost you less money in electricity to run, quieter, with better moisture
removal and less temperature fluctuations than a 2 ton unit that runs 12
hours per day, than
cheapest) AC system for me too cool my house?"
The short answer (given everything else being equal) contrary to popular
belief, is actually the AC that runs all the time to keep you just
comfortable. Which means, a 1 ton unit that runs 24 hours per day is going
to cost you less money in electricity to run, quieter, with better moisture
removal and less temperature fluctuations than a 2 ton unit that runs 12
hours per day, than
g*9
7 楼
Would mind delete your post in this thread, you can ask in the other thread, I don't want it this thread to become too long.
Thank you.
A "ton of refrigeration" is defined as the cooling power of one short ton (
2000 pounds or 907 kilograms) of ice melting in a 24-hour period. This is
equal to 12,000 BTU per hour, or 3517 watts.
BTU is not 功率单位, BTU/hour is 功率单位.
省电, quieter, better humidity control, more comfortable to human.
Most new unit, yes, my example above (trane with 3 different 功率 and
Thank you.
A "ton of refrigeration" is defined as the cooling power of one short ton (
2000 pounds or 907 kilograms) of ice melting in a 24-hour period. This is
equal to 12,000 BTU per hour, or 3517 watts.
BTU is not 功率单位, BTU/hour is 功率单位.
省电, quieter, better humidity control, more comfortable to human.
Most new unit, yes, my example above (trane with 3 different 功率 and
s*n
8 楼
他科普的对象是那些不动脑子的人，对你这样的不适合
s*n
9 楼
人家知道1ton是什么意思，问的“即使1 ton 的空调开24小时比2 ton的开12小时省电
，又说明什么呢？”
你给人装空调干了5年，很好。不过很多人干了一辈子的活，都不明白工作的原理是什
么。
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Would mind delete your post in this thread, you can ask in the other thread, I don't want it this thread to become too long.
: Thank you.
:
: A "ton of refrigeration" is defined as the cooling power of one short ton (
: 2000 pounds or 907 kilograms) of ice melting in a 24-hour period. This is
: equal to 12,000 BTU per hour, or 3517 watts.
: BTU is not 功率单位, BTU/hour is 功率单位.
: 省电, quieter, better humidity control, more comfortable to human.
: Most new unit, yes, my example above (trane with 3 different 功率 and
，又说明什么呢？”
你给人装空调干了5年，很好。不过很多人干了一辈子的活，都不明白工作的原理是什
么。
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Would mind delete your post in this thread, you can ask in the other thread, I don't want it this thread to become too long.
: Thank you.
:
: A "ton of refrigeration" is defined as the cooling power of one short ton (
: 2000 pounds or 907 kilograms) of ice melting in a 24-hour period. This is
: equal to 12,000 BTU per hour, or 3517 watts.
: BTU is not 功率单位, BTU/hour is 功率单位.
: 省电, quieter, better humidity control, more comfortable to human.
: Most new unit, yes, my example above (trane with 3 different 功率 and
g*9
10 楼
Would you mind delete you post in this thread, I would be happy to answer
and discuss with you in my other thread.
Thank you.
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: 人家知道1ton是什么意思，问的“即使1 ton 的空调开24小时比2 ton的开12小时省电
: ，又说明什么呢？”
: 你给人装空调干了5年，很好。不过很多人干了一辈子的活，都不明白工作的原理是什
: 么。
and discuss with you in my other thread.
Thank you.
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: 人家知道1ton是什么意思，问的“即使1 ton 的空调开24小时比2 ton的开12小时省电
: ，又说明什么呢？”
: 你给人装空调干了5年，很好。不过很多人干了一辈子的活，都不明白工作的原理是什
: 么。
s*n
11 楼
你的帖子夹带私货太多。你不就想说空调24小时工作更省电么？敢发帖就不要怕人回
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Would you mind delete you post in this thread, I would be happy to answer
: and discuss with you in my other thread.
: Thank you.
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Would you mind delete you post in this thread, I would be happy to answer
: and discuss with you in my other thread.
: Thank you.
g*9
12 楼
I intend to make this thread only for AC 科普 and have another thread for
discussion and comment, if you don't even have the common courtesy to repect
my posts, I will not discuss further with you. But if you want to take this
conversation to the discuss thread, I would be happy to answer all your
comments.
I am not 敢发帖就不要怕人回, I just don't this thread to become too long and
difficult for someone to read.
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: 你的帖子夹带私货太多。你不就想说空调24小时工作更省电么？敢发帖就不要怕人回
discussion and comment, if you don't even have the common courtesy to repect
my posts, I will not discuss further with you. But if you want to take this
conversation to the discuss thread, I would be happy to answer all your
comments.
I am not 敢发帖就不要怕人回, I just don't this thread to become too long and
difficult for someone to read.
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: 你的帖子夹带私货太多。你不就想说空调24小时工作更省电么？敢发帖就不要怕人回
s*n
13 楼
其他人只不过指出你的错误而已，你有不回答的权利，别人也有质疑的自由。
repect
this
and
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: I intend to make this thread only for AC 科普 and have another thread for
: discussion and comment, if you don't even have the common courtesy to repect
: my posts, I will not discuss further with you. But if you want to take this
: conversation to the discuss thread, I would be happy to answer all your
: comments.
: I am not 敢发帖就不要怕人回, I just don't this thread to become too long and
: difficult for someone to read.
repect
this
and
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: I intend to make this thread only for AC 科普 and have another thread for
: discussion and comment, if you don't even have the common courtesy to repect
: my posts, I will not discuss further with you. But if you want to take this
: conversation to the discuss thread, I would be happy to answer all your
: comments.
: I am not 敢发帖就不要怕人回, I just don't this thread to become too long and
: difficult for someone to read.
g*9
14 楼
Contine to post in this thread is very disrespectful, especially after I
requested you nicely not to (assume you did not see it in the beginning my
thread), If you want to 指出 my 错误, you can do in the other thread, I
would be happy to accept if a made a mistake, I will modify this thread to
correct.
So far I have not seen you 指出my 错误, just posting to cause my thread to
be less user friendly to other people.
Maybe you don't understand english, that is why continue to post here.
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: 其他人只不过指出你的错误而已，你有不回答的权利，别人也有质疑的自由。
:
: repect
: this
: and
requested you nicely not to (assume you did not see it in the beginning my
thread), If you want to 指出 my 错误, you can do in the other thread, I
would be happy to accept if a made a mistake, I will modify this thread to
correct.
So far I have not seen you 指出my 错误, just posting to cause my thread to
be less user friendly to other people.
Maybe you don't understand english, that is why continue to post here.
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: 其他人只不过指出你的错误而已，你有不回答的权利，别人也有质疑的自由。
:
: repect
: this
: and
s*n
15 楼
别人问的问题是：
为什么1 ton 开24小时比2 ton开12小时耗电少，就说明家里的空调24小时开着就耗电
少（家里空调功率是基本恒定的）？
不是不想 be respectful to you, but you have earn it yourself.
看看你怎么回答的：
#############################################################################
省电, quieter, better humidity control, more comfortable to human.
#############################################################################
你这就是用结论来回答问题，毫无意义
为什么1 ton 开24小时比2 ton开12小时耗电少，就说明家里的空调24小时开着就耗电
少（家里空调功率是基本恒定的）？
不是不想 be respectful to you, but you have earn it yourself.
看看你怎么回答的：
#############################################################################
省电, quieter, better humidity control, more comfortable to human.
#############################################################################
你这就是用结论来回答问题，毫无意义
s*n
16 楼
恩，我不懂英语，所以你是对的，行么？
这种话你在前几天的帖子就说过，你就别怪别人对你 disrepectful
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Contine to post in this thread is very disrespectful, especially after I
: requested you nicely not to (assume you did not see it in the beginning my
: thread), If you want to 指出 my 错误, you can do in the other thread, I
: would be happy to accept if a made a mistake, I will modify this thread to
: correct.
: So far I have not seen you 指出my 错误, just posting to cause my thread to
: be less user friendly to other people.
: Maybe you don't understand english, that is why continue to post here.
这种话你在前几天的帖子就说过，你就别怪别人对你 disrepectful
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: Contine to post in this thread is very disrespectful, especially after I
: requested you nicely not to (assume you did not see it in the beginning my
: thread), If you want to 指出 my 错误, you can do in the other thread, I
: would be happy to accept if a made a mistake, I will modify this thread to
: correct.
: So far I have not seen you 指出my 错误, just posting to cause my thread to
: be less user friendly to other people.
: Maybe you don't understand english, that is why continue to post here.
s*n
17 楼
说实话，一开始还看看你的长篇大论，后来只看关键字就行了，老调重弹一百遍有什么
意思。
意思。
g*9
18 楼
I have already provided detail scientific reason in this thread, there is no
reason to explain it second time.
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/Living/31740975_0.html
Asking question or posting comment is not being disrespectful to me, but
continue to do so in this thread is.
###
###
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: 别人问的问题是：
: 为什么1 ton 开24小时比2 ton开12小时耗电少，就说明家里的空调24小时开着就耗电
: 少（家里空调功率是基本恒定的）？
: 不是不想 be respectful to you, but you have earn it yourself.
: 看看你怎么回答的：
: #############################################################################
:
: 省电, quieter, better humidity control, more comfortable to human.
: #############################################################################
: 你这就是用结论来回答问题，毫无意义
reason to explain it second time.
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/Living/31740975_0.html
Asking question or posting comment is not being disrespectful to me, but
continue to do so in this thread is.
###
###
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: 别人问的问题是：
: 为什么1 ton 开24小时比2 ton开12小时耗电少，就说明家里的空调24小时开着就耗电
: 少（家里空调功率是基本恒定的）？
: 不是不想 be respectful to you, but you have earn it yourself.
: 看看你怎么回答的：
: #############################################################################
:
: 省电, quieter, better humidity control, more comfortable to human.
: #############################################################################
: 你这就是用结论来回答问题，毫无意义
s*n
19 楼
你对别人也没有respect，为什么要别人也respect你
我来说说你为什么错。
第一，比较1 ton 24 hours 和 2 ton 12 hours就是原则性错误，前面已经说过，就不
多说了。
第二，你说
If duct and fan size and speed are equal, 1 ton unit can
transfer more heat (or cool depending how you look at it) per minute. let's
use 1 ton unit as the base here, if it is 100% efficient, 2 ton unit will be
90% efficient and 4 ton unit will only be 80% efficient. In order for
larger size unit to have the same efficiency, you need to increase the duct
size, coil size (or surface area), fa
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: I have already provided detail scientific reason in this thread, there is no
: reason to explain it second time.
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article/Living/31740975_0.html
: Asking question or posting comment is not being disrespectful to me, but
: continue to do so in this thread is.
:
: ###
: ###
我来说说你为什么错。
第一，比较1 ton 24 hours 和 2 ton 12 hours就是原则性错误，前面已经说过，就不
多说了。
第二，你说
If duct and fan size and speed are equal, 1 ton unit can
transfer more heat (or cool depending how you look at it) per minute. let's
use 1 ton unit as the base here, if it is 100% efficient, 2 ton unit will be
90% efficient and 4 ton unit will only be 80% efficient. In order for
larger size unit to have the same efficiency, you need to increase the duct
size, coil size (or surface area), fa
【在 g*****9 的大作中提到】
: I have already provided detail scientific reason in this thread, there is no
: reason to explain it second time.
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article/Living/31740975_0.html
: Asking question or posting comment is not being disrespectful to me, but
: continue to do so in this thread is.
:
: ###
: ###
g*9
20 楼
你对别人也没有respect，为什么要别人也respect你
When did I disrespect anyone by posting this thread? Which setence is
disrepectfull, please point out.
我来说说你为什么错。
第一，比较1 ton 24 hours 和 2 ton 12 hours就是原则性错误，前面已经说过，就不
多说了。
Where is 前面已经说过, I did not see it.
第二，你说
If duct and fan size and speed are equal, 1 ton unit can
transfer more heat (or cool depending how you look at it) per minute. let's
use 1 ton unit as the base here, if it is 100% efficient, 2 ton unit will be
90% efficient and 4 ton unit will only be 80%
When did I disrespect anyone by posting this thread? Which setence is
disrepectfull, please point out.
我来说说你为什么错。
第一，比较1 ton 24 hours 和 2 ton 12 hours就是原则性错误，前面已经说过，就不
多说了。
Where is 前面已经说过, I did not see it.
第二，你说
If duct and fan size and speed are equal, 1 ton unit can
transfer more heat (or cool depending how you look at it) per minute. let's
use 1 ton unit as the base here, if it is 100% efficient, 2 ton unit will be
90% efficient and 4 ton unit will only be 80%
s*n
21 楼
证据一
证据二
http://www.mitbbs.com/article0/Living/31740231_0.html
你别告诉我你看不懂中文。
你别说你还没谈到那个问题，空调到底如何省电最关键的就是这个问题（同一功率下比
较），你在谈这个问题之前就下结论说24小时开着更省电，这就是扯淡了。这跟AC
size是不是oversized, contractor是不是为了赚钱故意这么弄的没有任何关系。我们
比较的不是哪种空调最省电，而是给定空调的情况下哪种方式运行最省电。
s
证据二
http://www.mitbbs.com/article0/Living/31740231_0.html
你别告诉我你看不懂中文。
你别说你还没谈到那个问题，空调到底如何省电最关键的就是这个问题（同一功率下比
较），你在谈这个问题之前就下结论说24小时开着更省电，这就是扯淡了。这跟AC
size是不是oversized, contractor是不是为了赚钱故意这么弄的没有任何关系。我们
比较的不是哪种空调最省电，而是给定空调的情况下哪种方式运行最省电。
s
g*9
22 楼
I have only discussed so far a little bit about 哪种空调最省电, more
discussion on this will be at the SEER rating section and new AC technology
section.
I have not even touched the subject of 给定空调的情况下哪种方式运行最省电
yet, which will be discussed later in many section regarding how to use AC
correctly(including programable thermostat, home automation and AC, vacation
, vent blocking, inline booster, AC and fan, AC and humidity, etc.), and
more in the preventive maintenance section (such as filter replacement,
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: 证据一
:
: 证据二
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article0/Living/31740231_0.html
: 你别告诉我你看不懂中文。
: 你别说你还没谈到那个问题，空调到底如何省电最关键的就是这个问题（同一功率下比
: 较），你在谈这个问题之前就下结论说24小时开着更省电，这就是扯淡了。这跟AC
: size是不是oversized, contractor是不是为了赚钱故意这么弄的没有任何关系。我们
: 比较的不是哪种空调最省电，而是给定空调的情况下哪种方式运行最省电。
: s
discussion on this will be at the SEER rating section and new AC technology
section.
I have not even touched the subject of 给定空调的情况下哪种方式运行最省电
yet, which will be discussed later in many section regarding how to use AC
correctly(including programable thermostat, home automation and AC, vacation
, vent blocking, inline booster, AC and fan, AC and humidity, etc.), and
more in the preventive maintenance section (such as filter replacement,
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】
: 证据一
:
: 证据二
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article0/Living/31740231_0.html
: 你别告诉我你看不懂中文。
: 你别说你还没谈到那个问题，空调到底如何省电最关键的就是这个问题（同一功率下比
: 较），你在谈这个问题之前就下结论说24小时开着更省电，这就是扯淡了。这跟AC
: size是不是oversized, contractor是不是为了赚钱故意这么弄的没有任何关系。我们
: 比较的不是哪种空调最省电，而是给定空调的情况下哪种方式运行最省电。
: s
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