w*3
2 楼
http://www.head-fi.org/t/669256/new-cans-senn-hd600-dt990-vs-dt
Hi FULLAUDIO
Thanks for the impressions. I am a reasonably long-time owner of all 3
headphones DT880 (mine are 600ohm), K701, and HD600. I would encourage you
(rather than quickly swapping the headphones) to actually spend a day with
each - and then see if your ideas on the sound of each actually change.
You may find that after spending longer time with a headphone like the HD600
, and only the HD600 - then switching to the Beyer or AKG - that you will
then change your mind on which is most balanced. Instead of the HD600 being
overly warm and lacking energy - you may find that they Beyers / AKGs
instead sound overly bright. It's an interesting exercise. Our brains
adjust to what they are used to - then compare other sounds to that base.
As the base changes - so do our impressions of a particular headphone.
Anyway - it's a good idea for a thread - I'll also throw in my quick
impressions of all 3. My set-up is Foobar (PC) > optical out to an Audio-gd
NFB-12, then either direct to the headphones or via my LD MKIV (the amp
doesn't change the contrast, nor my impression of each).
DT880.
Quite flat - but with elevated high-end. Bass extends pretty well and is
nicely defined. Mids appear slightly further back in the spectrum -
particularly compared to the highs. For me - it is the most detailed (like
shining a spotlight on the music). Has the smallest sound-stage of the 3 -
but still great for almost any genre. Very, very comfortable. Definitely
brighter than 'normal' sound.
K701
Again reasonably flat response - but with more emphasis on mid-range and
highs. Bass is recessed compared to mid-range and highs - but what is there
is well defined, and IMO sounds really good. Definitely the most bass-
light of the 3. Does a beautiful job of the mid-range - particularly
acoustic and stringed instruments in general. Widest soundstage of the 3 -
by quite a margin. Imaging is OK - sometimes struggles with center stage (
not sure if that is particular recordings though). Handles fast paced music
pretty well. Appears very detailed - but IMO the Beyer shows more actual
detail in comparison. Comfort because of the bumps in the headband is not
great. Because of this, I removed the bumps, added a small layer of foam,
and then finished it with a soft lamb-skin leather layer. It is now
extremely comfortable.
HD600
Whilst I wouldn't call it exactly flat - I would say it gives (to my ears)
the most natural presentation of the three. It is the most life-like and
has really good resolution and timbre. Sound stage is close to the Beyers (
marginally larger), but the imaging is better than both to me. Has a little
mid-bass bump, and gives the impression of slightly forward mids. Appears
slower than both the Beyer and AKG. Appearance of less detail is often
misleading - the detail is all there - it just doesn't have a spotlight
shone on it like the others. Comfort is pretty good - although a bit clampy
at times. Over time they have become more comfortable for me - and sit
between the Beyer and my (now modified) AKG.
Of the three headphones - with a good (well recorded) live performance - all
three headphones sound superb - but the HD600 is the only one (if I close
my eyes) that can actually give me the feeling that I am actually sitting in
the audience - their tone, timbre and imaging really is superb.
Short summary (just my view):
Bass (quantity) - HD600 > DT880 > K701
Bass (quality) - DT880 > HD600 = K701 (just different presentation between
the Senn and AKG)
Mid-range - HD600 > K701 > DT880
Highs (quantity) - DT880 > K701 > HD600
Sound-stage (size) - K701 > HD600 > DT880
Imaging - HD600 > DT880 =/> K701 (tough to call depends on recording)
Naturalness - HD600 >>>> K701 > DT880
Comfort - DT880 > HD600 > K701
I love all 3 headphones, and I probably spend equal time with each - depends
on my mood. They are all stellar performers for their price.
Hi FULLAUDIO
Thanks for the impressions. I am a reasonably long-time owner of all 3
headphones DT880 (mine are 600ohm), K701, and HD600. I would encourage you
(rather than quickly swapping the headphones) to actually spend a day with
each - and then see if your ideas on the sound of each actually change.
You may find that after spending longer time with a headphone like the HD600
, and only the HD600 - then switching to the Beyer or AKG - that you will
then change your mind on which is most balanced. Instead of the HD600 being
overly warm and lacking energy - you may find that they Beyers / AKGs
instead sound overly bright. It's an interesting exercise. Our brains
adjust to what they are used to - then compare other sounds to that base.
As the base changes - so do our impressions of a particular headphone.
Anyway - it's a good idea for a thread - I'll also throw in my quick
impressions of all 3. My set-up is Foobar (PC) > optical out to an Audio-gd
NFB-12, then either direct to the headphones or via my LD MKIV (the amp
doesn't change the contrast, nor my impression of each).
DT880.
Quite flat - but with elevated high-end. Bass extends pretty well and is
nicely defined. Mids appear slightly further back in the spectrum -
particularly compared to the highs. For me - it is the most detailed (like
shining a spotlight on the music). Has the smallest sound-stage of the 3 -
but still great for almost any genre. Very, very comfortable. Definitely
brighter than 'normal' sound.
K701
Again reasonably flat response - but with more emphasis on mid-range and
highs. Bass is recessed compared to mid-range and highs - but what is there
is well defined, and IMO sounds really good. Definitely the most bass-
light of the 3. Does a beautiful job of the mid-range - particularly
acoustic and stringed instruments in general. Widest soundstage of the 3 -
by quite a margin. Imaging is OK - sometimes struggles with center stage (
not sure if that is particular recordings though). Handles fast paced music
pretty well. Appears very detailed - but IMO the Beyer shows more actual
detail in comparison. Comfort because of the bumps in the headband is not
great. Because of this, I removed the bumps, added a small layer of foam,
and then finished it with a soft lamb-skin leather layer. It is now
extremely comfortable.
HD600
Whilst I wouldn't call it exactly flat - I would say it gives (to my ears)
the most natural presentation of the three. It is the most life-like and
has really good resolution and timbre. Sound stage is close to the Beyers (
marginally larger), but the imaging is better than both to me. Has a little
mid-bass bump, and gives the impression of slightly forward mids. Appears
slower than both the Beyer and AKG. Appearance of less detail is often
misleading - the detail is all there - it just doesn't have a spotlight
shone on it like the others. Comfort is pretty good - although a bit clampy
at times. Over time they have become more comfortable for me - and sit
between the Beyer and my (now modified) AKG.
Of the three headphones - with a good (well recorded) live performance - all
three headphones sound superb - but the HD600 is the only one (if I close
my eyes) that can actually give me the feeling that I am actually sitting in
the audience - their tone, timbre and imaging really is superb.
Short summary (just my view):
Bass (quantity) - HD600 > DT880 > K701
Bass (quality) - DT880 > HD600 = K701 (just different presentation between
the Senn and AKG)
Mid-range - HD600 > K701 > DT880
Highs (quantity) - DT880 > K701 > HD600
Sound-stage (size) - K701 > HD600 > DT880
Imaging - HD600 > DT880 =/> K701 (tough to call depends on recording)
Naturalness - HD600 >>>> K701 > DT880
Comfort - DT880 > HD600 > K701
I love all 3 headphones, and I probably spend equal time with each - depends
on my mood. They are all stellar performers for their price.
b*k
3 楼
因为想在过年期间回国，今年除夕好像是明年的2月2日，打算27号的飞机回去，但不知
道30日也就是除夕前三天，大使馆还可不可以签证面试的？想问下有没有人在这个时间
签过啊或者该怎么知道相关信息呢？我查了去年是从除夕开始放假7天，但刚打电话去
领事馆问，那边说领事馆放假不代表签证处就会可以面试，所以一下子急了，不知道该
不该订机票，请有经验的朋友帮忙说一下可以吗？谢谢^^
忘了说了是F1签证，因为刚好签证过期一年一个月所以不能用中信代签……
道30日也就是除夕前三天，大使馆还可不可以签证面试的？想问下有没有人在这个时间
签过啊或者该怎么知道相关信息呢？我查了去年是从除夕开始放假7天，但刚打电话去
领事馆问，那边说领事馆放假不代表签证处就会可以面试，所以一下子急了，不知道该
不该订机票，请有经验的朋友帮忙说一下可以吗？谢谢^^
忘了说了是F1签证，因为刚好签证过期一年一个月所以不能用中信代签……
l*g
4 楼
【 以下文字转载自 MusicPlayer 讨论区 】
发信人: louiswang (squander my affection), 信区: MusicPlayer
标 题: 看了视频（待业青年）
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jul 28 03:26:55 2010, 美东)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KURhj98Ibk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erSTJ1QnqgE&feature=related
发信人: louiswang (squander my affection), 信区: MusicPlayer
标 题: 看了视频（待业青年）
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jul 28 03:26:55 2010, 美东)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KURhj98Ibk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erSTJ1QnqgE&feature=related
t*f
5 楼
形单影只，。。。
s*e
6 楼
只剩下一片寂寞的沙滩
z*e
7 楼
靠，尾盘很是活跃阿
各路神仙都出洞了
各路神仙都出洞了
b*k
8 楼
顶上求助
d*d
9 楼
别阿
【在 t******f 的大作中提到】
: 形单影只，。。。
【在 t******f 的大作中提到】
: 形单影只，。。。
A*T
10 楼
只剩下一个静潮兄 LOL
z*e
11 楼
尾盘蠢蠢欲动
难道说真的要来一波？
难道说真的要来一波？
s*8
12 楼
孤独的感觉
肉的一下, 就把人淹没了
【在 d********d 的大作中提到】
: 别阿
肉的一下, 就把人淹没了
【在 d********d 的大作中提到】
: 别阿
G*o
13 楼
人生为欢有几何
只剩下一片寂寞的沙滩
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: 只剩下一片寂寞的沙滩
只剩下一片寂寞的沙滩
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: 只剩下一片寂寞的沙滩
z*e
14 楼
尾盘大面积绿转红
d*d
15 楼
什么肉？
【在 s**********8 的大作中提到】
: 孤独的感觉
: 肉的一下, 就把人淹没了
【在 s**********8 的大作中提到】
: 孤独的感觉
: 肉的一下, 就把人淹没了
p*o
16 楼
我感到了失落
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: 只剩下一片寂寞的沙滩
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: 只剩下一片寂寞的沙滩
z*e
17 楼
希望尾盘不要太激动
收个小小的阴线就好了
收个小小的阴线就好了
d*d
18 楼
好听,还是谢谢你了
【在 t******f 的大作中提到】
: 形单影只，。。。
【在 t******f 的大作中提到】
: 形单影只，。。。
G*o
19 楼
展开讲讲
我感到了失落
【在 p*******o 的大作中提到】
: 我感到了失落
我感到了失落
【在 p*******o 的大作中提到】
: 我感到了失落
z*e
20 楼
金地又来了
s*8
21 楼
象声词, 不是昨天的五花肉.
【在 d********d 的大作中提到】
: 什么肉？
【在 d********d 的大作中提到】
: 什么肉？
c*g
22 楼
我 感 到 了 失 落
【在 G*********o 的大作中提到】
: 展开讲讲
:
: 我感到了失落
z*e
23 楼
看最后半小时能不能冲到6。50
d*d
24 楼
那里的方言?
【在 s**********8 的大作中提到】
: 象声词, 不是昨天的五花肉.
【在 s**********8 的大作中提到】
: 象声词, 不是昨天的五花肉.
G*o
25 楼
确实展开了
但是颜色没变
【在 c******g 的大作中提到】
:
: 我 感 到 了 失 落
但是颜色没变
【在 c******g 的大作中提到】
:
: 我 感 到 了 失 落
z*e
26 楼
冲到6。45了
放出巨量
来，拉巴
放出巨量
来，拉巴
s*8
27 楼
人类通用语言.
【在 d********d 的大作中提到】
: 那里的方言?
【在 d********d 的大作中提到】
: 那里的方言?
c*g
28 楼
what about now?
【在 G*********o 的大作中提到】
: 确实展开了
: 但是颜色没变
【在 G*********o 的大作中提到】
: 确实展开了
: 但是颜色没变
T*s
29 楼
顶
d*d
30 楼
哦,体会了
【在 s**********8 的大作中提到】
: 人类通用语言.
【在 s**********8 的大作中提到】
: 人类通用语言.
G*o
31 楼
你没带原贴啊
what about now?
【在 c******g 的大作中提到】
: what about now?
what about now?
【在 c******g 的大作中提到】
: what about now?
s*8
32 楼
犀利
【在 d********d 的大作中提到】
: 哦,体会了
【在 d********d 的大作中提到】
: 哦,体会了
c*g
33 楼
check the old post
【在 G*********o 的大作中提到】
: 你没带原贴啊
:
: what about now?
【在 G*********o 的大作中提到】
: 你没带原贴啊
:
: what about now?
d*a
34 楼
真好听～
【在 t******f 的大作中提到】
: 形单影只，。。。
【在 t******f 的大作中提到】
: 形单影只，。。。
G*o
35 楼
嗯10961，不错
你怎么弄的来着？
check the old post
【在 c******g 的大作中提到】
: check the old post
你怎么弄的来着？
check the old post
【在 c******g 的大作中提到】
: check the old post
w*l
36 楼
共鸣老?
【在 d*********a 的大作中提到】
: 真好听～
【在 d*********a 的大作中提到】
: 真好听～
c*g
37 楼
just delete the ":"
【在 G*********o 的大作中提到】
: 嗯10961，不错
: 你怎么弄的来着？
:
: check the old post
【在 G*********o 的大作中提到】
: 嗯10961，不错
: 你怎么弄的来着？
:
: check the old post
d*a
38 楼
对呀
【在 w*********l 的大作中提到】
: 共鸣老?
【在 w*********l 的大作中提到】
: 共鸣老?
G*o
39 楼
试试
just delete the ":"
你怎么弄的来着？
【在 c******g 的大作中提到】
: just delete the ":"
just delete the ":"
你怎么弄的来着？
【在 c******g 的大作中提到】
: just delete the ":"
w*l
40 楼
你奔一个?
【在 d*********a 的大作中提到】
: 对呀
【在 d*********a 的大作中提到】
: 对呀
G*o
41 楼
还真管用，要是只想改变句子里的几个字呢？
比如，你的just delte the “：”里的顿号
试试
just delete the ":"
你怎么弄的来着？
【在 G*********o 的大作中提到】
: 试试
:
: just delete the ":"
: 你怎么弄的来着？
比如，你的just delte the “：”里的顿号
试试
just delete the ":"
你怎么弄的来着？
【在 G*********o 的大作中提到】
: 试试
:
: just delete the ":"
: 你怎么弄的来着？
w*n
42 楼
好漂亮的红叶
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c*g
43 楼
it's more complicated
go check ASCII art board
【在 G*********o 的大作中提到】
: 还真管用，要是只想改变句子里的几个字呢？
: 比如，你的just delte the “：”里的顿号
:
: 试试
: just delete the ":"
: 你怎么弄的来着？
go check ASCII art board
【在 G*********o 的大作中提到】
: 还真管用，要是只想改变句子里的几个字呢？
: 比如，你的just delte the “：”里的顿号
:
: 试试
: just delete the ":"
: 你怎么弄的来着？
q*r
44 楼
果然是这首。歌神最耐听的一首慢歌，合适下酒。
【在 t******f 的大作中提到】
: 形单影只，。。。
【在 t******f 的大作中提到】
: 形单影只，。。。
G*o
45 楼
没关系，去掉：就很好的技巧了，感谢。
it's more complicated
go check ASCII art board
比如，你的just delte the “：”里的顿号
【在 c******g 的大作中提到】
: it's more complicated
: go check ASCII art board
it's more complicated
go check ASCII art board
比如，你的just delte the “：”里的顿号
【在 c******g 的大作中提到】
: it's more complicated
: go check ASCII art board
d*o
46 楼
嗯
【在 q******r 的大作中提到】
: 果然是这首。歌神最耐听的一首慢歌，合适下酒。
【在 q******r 的大作中提到】
: 果然是这首。歌神最耐听的一首慢歌，合适下酒。
h*e
47 楼
It's life.
s*d
48 楼
你酒量大不？
【在 q******r 的大作中提到】
: 果然是这首。歌神最耐听的一首慢歌，合适下酒。
【在 q******r 的大作中提到】
: 果然是这首。歌神最耐听的一首慢歌，合适下酒。
G*o
49 楼
叶兄最近很深遂，很箴言。
It's life.
【在 h*********e 的大作中提到】
: It's life.
It's life.
【在 h*********e 的大作中提到】
: It's life.
q*r
50 楼
很少喝，还没试出来酒量。
【在 s********d 的大作中提到】
: 你酒量大不？
【在 s********d 的大作中提到】
: 你酒量大不？
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