D*2
2 楼
AE blue cash?
还是其他的卡？
capital one 新SSN容易批准吗
有经验的表个态吧，要不投票也行
还是其他的卡？
capital one 新SSN容易批准吗
有经验的表个态吧，要不投票也行
n*m
3 楼
b*l
4 楼
【 以下文字转载自 sysop 讨论区 】
发信人: bigsail (河马·面壁), 信区: sysop
标 题: 钻钻能不能别这么基？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat May 22 19:57:30 2010, 美东)
您了平时巡版，删删 PA 贴广告贴的，俺理解，俺感谢。
可人家 8g 一下某版的基督徒遵循圣经指示，生了病往身上抹菜油，您了悄悄把的帖给
t 了干啥？太阴损了吧？
得亏俺看见了。不然，一会儿被俺 D 掉了，人家还以为我搞宗教迫害呢。
发信人: bigsail (河马·面壁), 信区: sysop
标 题: 钻钻能不能别这么基？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat May 22 19:57:30 2010, 美东)
您了平时巡版，删删 PA 贴广告贴的，俺理解，俺感谢。
可人家 8g 一下某版的基督徒遵循圣经指示，生了病往身上抹菜油，您了悄悄把的帖给
t 了干啥？太阴损了吧？
得亏俺看见了。不然，一会儿被俺 D 掉了，人家还以为我搞宗教迫害呢。
i*1
5 楼
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/02/17/147037701/millio
In a story today by Julia Angwin and Jennifer Valentino-Devries, the WSJ
said:
[Google and others] used special computer code that tricks Apple's
Safari Web-browsing software into letting them monitor many users. Safari,
the most widely used browser on mobile devices, is designed to block such
tracking by default.
In a separate blog post, Valentino-Devries explains:
By default, Apple's Safari browser accepts cookies only from sites that
a user visits; these cookies can help the site retain logins or other
information. Safari generally blocks cookies that come from elsewhere –
such as advertising networks or other trackers. But there are exceptions to
this rule, including that if you interact with an advertisement or form in
certain ways, it's allowed to set a cookie even if you aren't technically
visiting the site.
Google's code, which was placed on certain ads that used the company's
DoubleClick ad technology and was uncovered by Stanford researcher Jonathan
Mayer, took advantage of this loophole, as did the code used by the other
companies.
Ryan Gavin, Microsoft's General Manager, Internet Explorer Business and
Marketing, couldn't resist getting in a dig of his own against Google for
the fiasco, as well as casting a less-than-subtle aspersion at Apple and its
browser:
This type of tracking by Google is not new. The novelty here is that
Google apparently circumvented the privacy protections built into Apple's
Safari browser in a deliberate, and ultimately, successful fashion.
If you find this type of behavior alarming and want to protect your
confidential information and privacy while you're online, there are
alternatives for you. Windows Internet Explorer is the browser that respects
your privacy.
Rachel Whetstone, Google's senior vice president for communications, offered
NPR this explanation, saying the Journal story "mischaracterises what
happened and why."
We used known Safari functionality to provide features that signed-in
Google users had enabled. It's important to stress that these advertising
cookies do not collect personal information.
Unlike other major browsers, Apple's Safari browser blocks third-party
cookies by default. However, Safari enables many web features for its users
that rely on third parties and third-party cookies, such as "Like" buttons.
Last year, we began using this functionality to enable features for signed-
in Google users on Safari who had opted to see personalized ads and other
content—such as the ability to "+1" things that interest them.
To enable these features, we created a temporary communication link
between Safari browsers and Google's servers, so that we could ascertain
whether Safari users were also signed into Google, and had opted for this
type of personalization. But we designed this so that the information
passing between the user's Safari browser and Google's servers was anonymous
—effectively creating a barrier between their personal information and the
web content they browse.
However, the Safari browser contained functionality that then enabled
other Google advertising cookies to be set on the browser. We didn't
anticipate that this would happen, and we have now started removing these
advertising cookies from Safari browsers.
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakout/google-privacy-loophole
In a story today by Julia Angwin and Jennifer Valentino-Devries, the WSJ
said:
[Google and others] used special computer code that tricks Apple's
Safari Web-browsing software into letting them monitor many users. Safari,
the most widely used browser on mobile devices, is designed to block such
tracking by default.
In a separate blog post, Valentino-Devries explains:
By default, Apple's Safari browser accepts cookies only from sites that
a user visits; these cookies can help the site retain logins or other
information. Safari generally blocks cookies that come from elsewhere –
such as advertising networks or other trackers. But there are exceptions to
this rule, including that if you interact with an advertisement or form in
certain ways, it's allowed to set a cookie even if you aren't technically
visiting the site.
Google's code, which was placed on certain ads that used the company's
DoubleClick ad technology and was uncovered by Stanford researcher Jonathan
Mayer, took advantage of this loophole, as did the code used by the other
companies.
Ryan Gavin, Microsoft's General Manager, Internet Explorer Business and
Marketing, couldn't resist getting in a dig of his own against Google for
the fiasco, as well as casting a less-than-subtle aspersion at Apple and its
browser:
This type of tracking by Google is not new. The novelty here is that
Google apparently circumvented the privacy protections built into Apple's
Safari browser in a deliberate, and ultimately, successful fashion.
If you find this type of behavior alarming and want to protect your
confidential information and privacy while you're online, there are
alternatives for you. Windows Internet Explorer is the browser that respects
your privacy.
Rachel Whetstone, Google's senior vice president for communications, offered
NPR this explanation, saying the Journal story "mischaracterises what
happened and why."
We used known Safari functionality to provide features that signed-in
Google users had enabled. It's important to stress that these advertising
cookies do not collect personal information.
Unlike other major browsers, Apple's Safari browser blocks third-party
cookies by default. However, Safari enables many web features for its users
that rely on third parties and third-party cookies, such as "Like" buttons.
Last year, we began using this functionality to enable features for signed-
in Google users on Safari who had opted to see personalized ads and other
content—such as the ability to "+1" things that interest them.
To enable these features, we created a temporary communication link
between Safari browsers and Google's servers, so that we could ascertain
whether Safari users were also signed into Google, and had opted for this
type of personalization. But we designed this so that the information
passing between the user's Safari browser and Google's servers was anonymous
—effectively creating a barrier between their personal information and the
web content they browse.
However, the Safari browser contained functionality that then enabled
other Google advertising cookies to be set on the browser. We didn't
anticipate that this would happen, and we have now started removing these
advertising cookies from Safari browsers.
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakout/google-privacy-loophole
s*p
6 楼
没法接受手机的tethering？
z*g
7 楼
capital one 的 MTVU 挺好申，
或者其有年费的卡
【在 D*2 的大作中提到】
: AE blue cash?
: 还是其他的卡？
: capital one 新SSN容易批准吗
: 有经验的表个态吧，要不投票也行
或者其有年费的卡
【在 D*2 的大作中提到】
: AE blue cash?
: 还是其他的卡？
: capital one 新SSN容易批准吗
: 有经验的表个态吧，要不投票也行
w*2
8 楼
my main concern about google is about privacy
that
to
Jonathan
its
respects
offered
users
.
anonymous
the
【在 i***1 的大作中提到】
: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/02/17/147037701/millio
: In a story today by Julia Angwin and Jennifer Valentino-Devries, the WSJ
: said:
: [Google and others] used special computer code that tricks Apple's
: Safari Web-browsing software into letting them monitor many users. Safari,
: the most widely used browser on mobile devices, is designed to block such
: tracking by default.
: In a separate blog post, Valentino-Devries explains:
: By default, Apple's Safari browser accepts cookies only from sites that
: a user visits; these cookies can help the site retain logins or other
that
to
Jonathan
its
respects
offered
users
.
anonymous
the
【在 i***1 的大作中提到】
: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/02/17/147037701/millio
: In a story today by Julia Angwin and Jennifer Valentino-Devries, the WSJ
: said:
: [Google and others] used special computer code that tricks Apple's
: Safari Web-browsing software into letting them monitor many users. Safari,
: the most widely used browser on mobile devices, is designed to block such
: tracking by default.
: In a separate blog post, Valentino-Devries explains:
: By default, Apple's Safari browser accepts cookies only from sites that
: a user visits; these cookies can help the site retain logins or other
g*e
9 楼
capital one
l*y
10 楼
Citi Discover 学生卡
【在 D*2 的大作中提到】
: AE blue cash?
: 还是其他的卡？
: capital one 新SSN容易批准吗
: 有经验的表个态吧，要不投票也行
【在 D*2 的大作中提到】
: AE blue cash?
: 还是其他的卡？
: capital one 新SSN容易批准吗
: 有经验的表个态吧，要不投票也行
l*i
11 楼
Discover 学生卡
c1
c1
c*n
12 楼
这个因人而异，也因时间而异，不能一概而论
建议把citi dividend, discover more, capital one 学生卡都申了
然后再把本地、本校的小银行、信用社（自己有账户的）的也申了
应该把握比较大
建议把citi dividend, discover more, capital one 学生卡都申了
然后再把本地、本校的小银行、信用社（自己有账户的）的也申了
应该把握比较大
k*g
13 楼
应该是C1吧，当时申了就批的。就是他家的卡没啥额外好处，现在纯粹压箱底。
两个月后又申了citi的MtvU和Discover more。
MtvU马上通过，Discover让我寄收入证明，寄完把我拒了。至今不碰他家的卡。
两个月后又申了citi的MtvU和Discover more。
MtvU马上通过，Discover让我寄收入证明，寄完把我拒了。至今不碰他家的卡。
T*0
14 楼
Discover水过，Citi等待中...
c*8
15 楼
chase!我当年的第一张卡，别听上面的，那些卡都很难，很容易在你的credit history
上面留下10个hard！
我等了两年才把当年的失误补回来！
上面留下10个hard！
我等了两年才把当年的失误补回来！
T*0
16 楼
Er...
那听你说的理由是什么呢？
我同学申Chase就拒了...
我身边几个人申Discover和Citi都Pass了...
而且你还“当年”呢...
所以凡事不要这么绝对...
我们只是提供一下自己的情况给LZ参考而已...
起码我申Discover超级容易...毫无难度...
history
【在 c*********8 的大作中提到】
: chase!我当年的第一张卡，别听上面的，那些卡都很难，很容易在你的credit history
: 上面留下10个hard！
: 我等了两年才把当年的失误补回来！
那听你说的理由是什么呢？
我同学申Chase就拒了...
我身边几个人申Discover和Citi都Pass了...
而且你还“当年”呢...
所以凡事不要这么绝对...
我们只是提供一下自己的情况给LZ参考而已...
起码我申Discover超级容易...毫无难度...
history
【在 c*********8 的大作中提到】
: chase!我当年的第一张卡，别听上面的，那些卡都很难，很容易在你的credit history
: 上面留下10个hard！
: 我等了两年才把当年的失误补回来！
l*i
17 楼
当年是哪年啊
history
【在 c*********8 的大作中提到】
: chase!我当年的第一张卡，别听上面的，那些卡都很难，很容易在你的credit history
: 上面留下10个hard！
: 我等了两年才把当年的失误补回来！
history
【在 c*********8 的大作中提到】
: chase!我当年的第一张卡，别听上面的，那些卡都很难，很容易在你的credit history
: 上面留下10个hard！
: 我等了两年才把当年的失误补回来！
R*N
18 楼
挑一天申个五六张 能中一张就行
我第一批申请仅仅中了citi dividend 不过被要求寄了水电账单 居然有3k额度
其他的chase amex discover boa 全都被拒 capital one本版不推荐所以没申请
如果都没过 那就去local credit union 存钱就能申请的。
过了三个月 能查到信用分数了 伸到了fia amex 然后去old navy 被忽悠办了个联名卡
，当分母了。
过了快一年 伸到了一个amex Hhonors 反正卡不嫌多。。
【在 D*2 的大作中提到】
: AE blue cash?
: 还是其他的卡？
: capital one 新SSN容易批准吗
: 有经验的表个态吧，要不投票也行
我第一批申请仅仅中了citi dividend 不过被要求寄了水电账单 居然有3k额度
其他的chase amex discover boa 全都被拒 capital one本版不推荐所以没申请
如果都没过 那就去local credit union 存钱就能申请的。
过了三个月 能查到信用分数了 伸到了fia amex 然后去old navy 被忽悠办了个联名卡
，当分母了。
过了快一年 伸到了一个amex Hhonors 反正卡不嫌多。。
【在 D*2 的大作中提到】
: AE blue cash?
: 还是其他的卡？
: capital one 新SSN容易批准吗
: 有经验的表个态吧，要不投票也行
n*e
19 楼
Capital one 也没传说中那么差啊。虽然CB不高，只有1%，特定购物2%，额度很低（新
开卡低至$500），但没有国际消费手续费。容易申请，对新手来说还算不错的卡，总比
那些secure credit card要好很多。大家说的乱收费，我用了半年没发生乱扣费现象，
只要自己在选择服务之前弄清是不是免费，如果不是免费就不选。
开卡低至$500），但没有国际消费手续费。容易申请，对新手来说还算不错的卡，总比
那些secure credit card要好很多。大家说的乱收费，我用了半年没发生乱扣费现象，
只要自己在选择服务之前弄清是不是免费，如果不是免费就不选。
k*s
20 楼
chase现在挺紧的，额度也低
而且现在半年一张的policy非常之恶心
history
【在 c*********8 的大作中提到】
: chase!我当年的第一张卡，别听上面的，那些卡都很难，很容易在你的credit history
: 上面留下10个hard！
: 我等了两年才把当年的失误补回来！
而且现在半年一张的policy非常之恶心
history
【在 c*********8 的大作中提到】
: chase!我当年的第一张卡，别听上面的，那些卡都很难，很容易在你的credit history
: 上面留下10个hard！
: 我等了两年才把当年的失误补回来！
D*2
21 楼
谢谢大家的热心回帖呀！
再问一句：刚来美，刚拿社保号的F1学生，拿SSN第一周申请个十张8张的卡撞运气，也
不会太伤信用记录吧？反正信用记录也是零呀。。
这个意义上说是不是C1,Store card等这些垃圾卡，越垃圾越好申请呀？
【在 k********s 的大作中提到】
: chase现在挺紧的，额度也低
: 而且现在半年一张的policy非常之恶心
:
: history
再问一句：刚来美，刚拿社保号的F1学生，拿SSN第一周申请个十张8张的卡撞运气，也
不会太伤信用记录吧？反正信用记录也是零呀。。
这个意义上说是不是C1,Store card等这些垃圾卡，越垃圾越好申请呀？
【在 k********s 的大作中提到】
: chase现在挺紧的，额度也低
: 而且现在半年一张的policy非常之恶心
:
: history
e*y
22 楼
申这十张八张卡的hard pull会留在你信用记录两年, 在此期间持续影响你的信用分数,
你再申别家的卡, 银行也都会看到这些记录
【在 D*2 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢大家的热心回帖呀！
: 再问一句：刚来美，刚拿社保号的F1学生，拿SSN第一周申请个十张8张的卡撞运气，也
: 不会太伤信用记录吧？反正信用记录也是零呀。。
: 这个意义上说是不是C1,Store card等这些垃圾卡，越垃圾越好申请呀？
你再申别家的卡, 银行也都会看到这些记录
【在 D*2 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢大家的热心回帖呀！
: 再问一句：刚来美，刚拿社保号的F1学生，拿SSN第一周申请个十张8张的卡撞运气，也
: 不会太伤信用记录吧？反正信用记录也是零呀。。
: 这个意义上说是不是C1,Store card等这些垃圾卡，越垃圾越好申请呀？
P*k
23 楼
3家credit bureau里面有1家，同一天内的hard只算1次，不过忘记是哪家了，如果同时
申请pull那家的CC不会留下很多hard
申请pull那家的CC不会留下很多hard
P*k
24 楼
另外最近身边几个刚拿SSN的同学申请Discover都过了，反而申Citi的都悲剧了
d*i
25 楼
我正好相反，discover秒拒，citi直接给了3.5k
【在 P*****k 的大作中提到】
: 另外最近身边几个刚拿SSN的同学申请Discover都过了，反而申Citi的都悲剧了
【在 P*****k 的大作中提到】
: 另外最近身边几个刚拿SSN的同学申请Discover都过了，反而申Citi的都悲剧了
T*0
26 楼
那看来我太好运了,两边都过了...
【在 P*****k 的大作中提到】
: 另外最近身边几个刚拿SSN的同学申请Discover都过了，反而申Citi的都悲剧了
【在 P*****k 的大作中提到】
: 另外最近身边几个刚拿SSN的同学申请Discover都过了，反而申Citi的都悲剧了
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