【在 i******c 的大作中提到】 : for example, the government can search your records from google.
e*i
45 楼
哪个州? 大家养的都是女孩阿,很少见有人养公的Husky的
【在 c********e 的大作中提到】 : : 看来要和小妞慢慢磨了。 : 俺这少见的雪
g*e
46 楼
All email providers have the ability to check/scan your email. You have to trust someone if you want to use email. I don't think Google is any worse than others.
【在 g******e 的大作中提到】 : All email providers have the ability to check/scan your email. You have to : trust someone if you want to use email. I don't think Google is any worse : than others.
【在 z*n 的大作中提到】 : 这可真够旷日持久的,印象中几年前就听到这个例子了。 : “Because of privacy laws, health system employees will continue using an : internal email system.” 很好奇这privacy law是啥。
r*e
66 楼
UM也不小了吧,不是有最大的学校football stadium么
不是 送了
【在 u****d 的大作中提到】 : UM又不是什么大学校,什么时候BigTen都用gmail了,那才有点意义。 : : case
UM不小吧,感觉每一个Uxxx都不小。 edu这市场很price sensitive, 对于功能/privacy都没啥要求,用hosted exchange确 实有些overkill. 在这个市场上竞争的事Office365 for EDU.
【在 u****d 的大作中提到】 : UM又不是什么大学校,什么时候BigTen都用gmail了,那才有点意义。 : : case
J*0
70 楼
只有google是永久保留email/聊天记录/draft,即使你选择删除。
【在 g******e 的大作中提到】 : All email providers have the ability to check/scan your email. You have to : trust someone if you want to use email. I don't think Google is any worse : than others.
I personally don't care if they delete permanently or not. But if I am a spy or a drug dealer I don't trust you even if you declare you delete my email permanently.
You think. Unless it's internal emails, all emails go through at least one origin and one destination mail server. Never mind all the in between gateways that have access to the emails.
删的不就是internal email么。 samsung vs apple的case所谓销毁证据就是删了internal的email
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】 : You think. Unless it's internal emails, all emails go through at least one : origin and one destination mail server. Never mind all the in between : gateways that have access to the emails. : : delete
d*k
82 楼
理论上是这样。问题这种local server彻底删掉的几年前某封email,有谁能找回来。
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】 : You think. Unless it's internal emails, all emails go through at least one : origin and one destination mail server. Never mind all the in between : gateways that have access to the emails. : : delete
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】 : You think. Unless it's internal emails, all emails go through at least one : origin and one destination mail server. Never mind all the in between : gateways that have access to the emails. : : delete
g*g
86 楼
想当然,你不是连信得有发信收信都不知道吧。除非是内部邮件,你发给谁,对方的 mail server不是一样有。
上面是说你“Never mind all the in between gateways that have access to the emails”这句的,难道你认为“all the in between gateways ”把每封邮件都存档了? 你现在这个回复更是废话,所谓企业机密当然是说自己人的server发到自己人的server 这种情况,你发到别人的server还隐私个P!
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】 : 想当然,你不是连信得有发信收信都不知道吧。除非是内部邮件,你发给谁,对方的 : mail server不是一样有。
【在 L*****e 的大作中提到】 : 上面是说你“Never mind all the in between gateways that have access to the : emails”这句的,难道你认为“all the in between gateways ”把每封邮件都存档了? : 你现在这个回复更是废话,所谓企业机密当然是说自己人的server发到自己人的server : 这种情况,你发到别人的server还隐私个P!
d*a
89 楼
UT Austin
【在 u****d 的大作中提到】 : UM又不是什么大学校,什么时候BigTen都用gmail了,那才有点意义。 : : case
不懂你就别装,给你举个例子。Iron Mountain。就是做这个的。本身就是SP500的公司 ,客户120K个。97%的Fortune 1000是他们的客户。这是970个例子,不是几个例子。 Publicly traded under NYSE symbol IRM, Iron Mountain is a S&P 500 company and a member of the Fortune 1000 (currently ranked: 675). Organizations in every major industry and of all sizes—including more than 97% of the Fortune 1000—rely on Iron Mountain as their information management partner.
这个是你外行... Iron mountain是干什么的不知道?不懂别装。 那不是搞备份的,那是个存东西的地方... 你如果说这个是备份,随便找个self storage都是搞备份的了。
partner.
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】 : 不懂你就别装,给你举个例子。Iron Mountain。就是做这个的。本身就是SP500的公司 : ,客户120K个。97%的Fortune 1000是他们的客户。这是970个例子,不是几个例子。 : Publicly traded under NYSE symbol IRM, Iron Mountain is a S&P 500 company : and a member of the Fortune 1000 (currently ranked: 675). Organizations in : every major industry and of all sizes—including more than 97% of the : Fortune 1000—rely on Iron Mountain as their information management partner.
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】 : 不懂你就别装,给你举个例子。Iron Mountain。就是做这个的。本身就是SP500的公司 : ,客户120K个。97%的Fortune 1000是他们的客户。这是970个例子,不是几个例子。 : Publicly traded under NYSE symbol IRM, Iron Mountain is a S&P 500 company : and a member of the Fortune 1000 (currently ranked: 675). Organizations in : every major industry and of all sizes—including more than 97% of the : Fortune 1000—rely on Iron Mountain as their information management partner.
z*n
101 楼
Iron mountain连data backup也不是啊... 那就是个有security的仓库, 你高兴了把好 虫的裸照放一盒子里交给iron mountain也行。 后来被一些公司用来存磁带。
people are smart when it comes to sensitive topics, usually just say "i will give you a call" or set up a meeting called "discussion". if it is a written document any ways then it is in the files any ways.
【在 L*****e 的大作中提到】 : 上面是说你“Never mind all the in between gateways that have access to the : emails”这句的,难道你认为“all the in between gateways ”把每封邮件都存档了? : 你现在这个回复更是废话,所谓企业机密当然是说自己人的server发到自己人的server : 这种情况,你发到别人的server还隐私个P!
why MS give University free product? Because those young dudes are tomorrow' s customer. Who took over university market will took over the market in 10 years.
【在 l*******o 的大作中提到】 : a lot of universities have done that. many of them are large universities.
母校出来你这种人真是丢人。刚刚说Iron Mountain不做这个服务,我把主页连接拿出 来了,又变成很后来的事情。尼玛Google做浏览器和手机也是很后来的事。比Iron Mountain后来多了。Apple做iPhone也是很后来的事。按你的标准,苹果跟Google跟PDA 版都没什么关系。 In 2004, Iron Mountain formed a digital assets division called 'Iron Mountain Digital', following the acquisition of Connected Corporation[4][5][ 6] - a maker of online PC backup software. A year later, Iron Mountain Digital bought LiveVault[7] - a provider of online backup software for server data. In 2007 Iron Mountain acquired Stratify Inc.[8] - one of the larger e-discovery service providers at the production end of the Electronic Discovery Reference Model (EDRM).[9] The acquired businesses of LiveVault and Stratify Inc. were consolidated into Iron Mountain Digital. 你打自己的脸只需要3分钟才是真的。
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】 : 母校出来你这种人真是丢人。刚刚说Iron Mountain不做这个服务,我把主页连接拿出 : 来了,又变成很后来的事情。尼玛Google做浏览器和手机也是很后来的事。比Iron : Mountain后来多了。Apple做iPhone也是很后来的事。按你的标准,苹果跟Google跟PDA : 版都没什么关系。 : In 2004, Iron Mountain formed a digital assets division called 'Iron : Mountain Digital', following the acquisition of Connected Corporation[4][5][ : 6] - a maker of online PC backup software. A year later, Iron Mountain : Digital bought LiveVault[7] - a provider of online backup software for : server data. In 2007 Iron Mountain acquired Stratify Inc.[8] - one of the : larger e-discovery service providers at the production end of the Electronic
g*g
171 楼
尼玛还嘴硬,04年就有的digital部门。按你的标准,苹果跟狗狗跟PDA都没啥关系。 In 2004, Iron Mountain formed a digital assets division called 'Iron Mountain Digital', following the acquisition of Connected Corporation[4][5][ 6] - a maker of online PC backup software. A year later, Iron Mountain Digital bought LiveVault[7] - a provider of online backup software for server data. In 2007 Iron Mountain acquired Stratify Inc.[8] - one of the larger e-discovery service providers at the production end of the Electronic Discovery Reference Model (EDRM).[9] The acquired businesses of LiveVault and Stratify Inc. were consolidated into Iron Mountain Digital.
嘴硬的是你, 那些大公司开始用IM的时候这服务连影子也没有呢. 没搞过这东西你应当闭嘴, 上磁带备份的公司数据量不是这个digital iron mountain 能搞定的. 你所谓的Fortune 500用IM, 不敢说全部, 大多是用他的storage, 不是这个 digitial IM. 把这两个混在一起就是不懂装懂.
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】 : 尼玛还嘴硬,04年就有的digital部门。按你的标准,苹果跟狗狗跟PDA都没啥关系。 : In 2004, Iron Mountain formed a digital assets division called 'Iron : Mountain Digital', following the acquisition of Connected Corporation[4][5][ : 6] - a maker of online PC backup software. A year later, Iron Mountain : Digital bought LiveVault[7] - a provider of online backup software for : server data. In 2007 Iron Mountain acquired Stratify Inc.[8] - one of the : larger e-discovery service providers at the production end of the Electronic : Discovery Reference Model (EDRM).[9] The acquired businesses of LiveVault : and Stratify Inc. were consolidated into Iron Mountain Digital.
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】 : 不懂你就别装,给你举个例子。Iron Mountain。就是做这个的。本身就是SP500的公司 : ,客户120K个。97%的Fortune 1000是他们的客户。这是970个例子,不是几个例子。 : Publicly traded under NYSE symbol IRM, Iron Mountain is a S&P 500 company : and a member of the Fortune 1000 (currently ranked: 675). Organizations in : every major industry and of all sizes—including more than 97% of the : Fortune 1000—rely on Iron Mountain as their information management partner.
人主页没错, 是你的例子错了. 发信人: goodbug (好虫), 信区: PDA 标 题: Re: 不少微软Exchange的生意都被google抢了 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Nov 30 17:14:15 2012, 美东) 不懂你就别装,给你举个例子。Iron Mountain。就是做这个的。本身就是SP500的公司 ,客户120K个。97%的Fortune 1000是他们的客户。这是970个例子,不是几个例子。 Publicly traded under NYSE symbol IRM, Iron Mountain is a S&P 500 company and a member of the Fortune 1000 (currently ranked: 675). Organizations in every major industry and of all sizes—including more than 97% of the Fortune 1000—rely on Iron Mountain as their information management partner.
【在 z*n 的大作中提到】 : 人主页没错, 是你的例子错了. : 发信人: goodbug (好虫), 信区: PDA : 标 题: Re: 不少微软Exchange的生意都被google抢了 : 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Nov 30 17:14:15 2012, 美东) : 不懂你就别装,给你举个例子。Iron Mountain。就是做这个的。本身就是SP500的公司 : ,客户120K个。97%的Fortune 1000是他们的客户。这是970个例子,不是几个例子。 : Publicly traded under NYSE symbol IRM, Iron Mountain is a S&P 500 company : and a member of the Fortune 1000 (currently ranked: 675). Organizations in : every major industry and of all sizes—including more than 97% of the : Fortune 1000—rely on Iron Mountain as their information management partner.
大家想过没有,为什么Google打官司从来没输过?为什么Google买公司从来没有被阻止 过?Google作为搜索的老大,又买了多少搜索公司?如果微软当年作为OS老大买Apple ,可能被批准吗? 我认为Google的core competency就是“I know what you did last summer!”。我们 作为P民,当然我们的隐私没有什么利用价值。但是官员呢?法官呢?连CIA局长搞小三 都用gmail,FBI能用google的数据调查出来,你说Google自己想查的话查不出来? 个人隐私也好,商业机密也好,Google要利用,难道还傻乎乎地用自己的名义公布出来 ,好让你告他?总之我觉得google是个很evil很危险的存在,已经发展成了对民主制度 的威胁。
r*e
200 楼
第一个论断就不对,谷歌刚刚因为safari隐私官司赔了几千万
Apple
【在 l**t 的大作中提到】 : 大家想过没有,为什么Google打官司从来没输过?为什么Google买公司从来没有被阻止 : 过?Google作为搜索的老大,又买了多少搜索公司?如果微软当年作为OS老大买Apple : ,可能被批准吗? : 我认为Google的core competency就是“I know what you did last summer!”。我们 : 作为P民,当然我们的隐私没有什么利用价值。但是官员呢?法官呢?连CIA局长搞小三 : 都用gmail,FBI能用google的数据调查出来,你说Google自己想查的话查不出来? : 个人隐私也好,商业机密也好,Google要利用,难道还傻乎乎地用自己的名义公布出来 : ,好让你告他?总之我觉得google是个很evil很危险的存在,已经发展成了对民主制度 : 的威胁。
a*m
201 楼
g有好几次拒绝fbi的查询要求吧,当然你说就拒绝几个其实偷偷给很多俺也没法证明。
Apple
【在 l**t 的大作中提到】 : 大家想过没有,为什么Google打官司从来没输过?为什么Google买公司从来没有被阻止 : 过?Google作为搜索的老大,又买了多少搜索公司?如果微软当年作为OS老大买Apple : ,可能被批准吗? : 我认为Google的core competency就是“I know what you did last summer!”。我们 : 作为P民,当然我们的隐私没有什么利用价值。但是官员呢?法官呢?连CIA局长搞小三 : 都用gmail,FBI能用google的数据调查出来,你说Google自己想查的话查不出来? : 个人隐私也好,商业机密也好,Google要利用,难道还傻乎乎地用自己的名义公布出来 : ,好让你告他?总之我觉得google是个很evil很危险的存在,已经发展成了对民主制度 : 的威胁。
l*t
202 楼
几千万。。。这就好比说,你看李刚的儿子就是没特权,刚刚因为闯红灯被罚了五毛钱 的巨款!
【在 r*******e 的大作中提到】 : 第一个论断就不对,谷歌刚刚因为safari隐私官司赔了几千万 : : Apple
你才是文盲, 而且是不懂装懂的极品. 和你说了你举的“企业备份,大部分都是contract给第三方公司”的IM例子其实就是给 人做self storage,这不是啥企业备份.拿这个当企业备份的例子是不懂装懂. 和你说了你没搞过这个请闭嘴. 发信人: goodbug (好虫), 信区: PDA 标 题: Re: 不少微软Exchange的生意都被google抢了 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Nov 30 17:14:15 2012, 美东) 不懂你就别装,给你举个例子。Iron Mountain。就是做这个的。本身就是SP500的公司 ,客户120K个。97%的Fortune 1000是他们的客户。这是970个例子,不是几个例子。 Publicly traded under NYSE symbol IRM, Iron Mountain is a S&P 500 company and a member of the Fortune 1000 (currently ranked: 675). Organizations in every major industry and of all sizes—including more than 97% of the Fortune 1000—rely on Iron Mountain as their information management partner.
"On June 2, 2011, we completed the sale (the "Digital Sale") of our online backup and recovery, digital archiving and eDiscovery solutions businesses of our digital business (the "Digital Business") to Autonomy Corporation plc , a corporation formed under the laws of England and Wales ("Autonomy"), pursuant to a purchase and sale agreement dated as of May 15, 2011 among Iron Mountain Incorporated ("IMI"), certain subsidiaries of IMI and Autonomy (the "Digital Sale Agreement"). " ... 关于livevault: In August 2010, we were named as a defendant in a patent infringement suit filed in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Texas by Oasis Research, LLC. The plaintiff alleges that the technology found in our Connected and LiveVault products infringed certain U.S. patents owned by the plaintiff and seeks an unspecified amount of damages. The trial is scheduled to begin on March 4, 2013. As part of the sale of our Digital Business, discussed in Note 10, our Connected and LiveVault products were sold to Autonomy, and Autonomy has assumed this obligation and the defense of this litigation and has agreed to indemnify us against any losses .c 卖给了著名的Autonomy...就是那个搞翻了HPQ的.
【在 z*n 的大作中提到】 : "On June 2, 2011, we completed the sale (the "Digital Sale") of our online : backup and recovery, digital archiving and eDiscovery solutions businesses : of our digital business (the "Digital Business") to Autonomy Corporation plc : , a corporation formed under the laws of England and Wales ("Autonomy"), : pursuant to a purchase and sale agreement dated as of May 15, 2011 among : Iron Mountain Incorporated ("IMI"), certain subsidiaries of IMI and Autonomy : (the "Digital Sale Agreement"). " : ... : 关于livevault: : In August 2010, we were named as a defendant in a patent
z*n
293 楼
那是IM的10Q SEC filing, 有意见找IM. 继续自我批评. (10) Discontinued Operations (Continued) three and nine months ended September 30, 2011, respectively. A gain on sale of discontinued operations in the amount of $177 ($6,911, inclusive of tax benefit) and $245,831 ($200,260, net of tax) was recorded during the three and nine months ended September 30, 2011, respectively, as a result of the Digital Sale. The table below summarizes certain results of operations of the Digital Business:
Three Months Ended September 30, Nine Months Ended September 30, 2011 2012 2011(1) 2012 Total Revenues $ — $ — $ 79,199 $ —
Loss Before Benefit for Income Taxes of Discontinued Operations $ (1,554 ) $ (537 ) $ (21,952 ) $ (159 ) Benefit for Income Taxes (932 ) (1,094 ) (8,462 ) (803 )
(Loss) Income from Discontinued Operations, Net of Tax $ (622 ) $ 557 $ (13,490 ) $ 644
Gain on Sale of Discontinued Operations $ 177 $ — $ 245,831 $ — (Benefit) Provision for Income Taxes (6,734 ) — 45,571 —
Gain on Sale of Discontinued Operations, Net of Tax $ 6,911 $ — $ 200,260 $ —
Total Income from Discontinued Operations and Sale, Net of Tax $ 6,289 $ 557 $ 186,770 $ 644
(1) The nine months ended September 30, 2011 includes the Digital Business results of operations through June 2, 2011, the date the Digital Sale was consummated.