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ok google出现了和以前不同得界面# PDA - 掌中宝
c*q
1
冒个泡叹口气。花粉过敏来势汹汹,开始打喷嚏流鼻提眼睛痒。这才开始,以后的一个
多月会更难过。再加上最近几周总失眠,不辗转个三小时以上睡不着。 进入第三个
TRIMESTER睡眠是每况愈下了。 哎
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a*l
2
Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
5, 2013
背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread
public commentary. 3) My research has been used as a teaching tool by
worldwide professors. 4) I was invited to give seminar speech at top
universities and conferences as a leading expert in the field. 5) My
research influenced and revolutionized the field 6) experts throughout the
field currently consider my work important.
所有的文章,会议,推荐信,乱七八糟的东西都是分拆到这6项里面。我的依据就是,
他们看不懂你的贡献,但这6个section总归看得懂的 (他们ref里面就是用的类似的语
言)。
2) exhibit list我花了点精力去做了,5页左右,就是一个简洁版的petition letter
。highlight top percentage all over the letter,用的是eigenfactor,基本没提
impact factor。在信里我没有用任何图表,所有的油灯图什么的都在exhibit里面 (估
计他们不会去看的)。美国人喜欢看书的多,但去看看书店的top seller,有多少带图
表有多少基本通篇都是文字的?
3) 我用的google scholar,没有区分自引,他引,就打印了一个summary,里面乱七八
糟的中文引用都没有去管。油灯图就打印了一个researcherID的版本。没有和平均数进
行对比。感觉任何地方出现average都是大忌啊。
4) 任何地方都不要出现young,potential,will这些词。推荐信写完用关键词搜一些
把,有时候不留神这些词就出现了。不要放推荐人的CV (打印他们一个主页就行,以
防对比citation)。小奖小东西travel award都不要放,推荐人如果坚持要用young
scientist,最好还是把那份推荐信放抽屉里留个纪念把,不要拿出去显摆了。版上不
是有“断臂”的说服嘛,哈哈。
5) 学文科的officer,会care一些我们理工care的东西吗?
真心觉得没有必要手工画油灯图,手工翻译google scholar里的中文引用。另外,为自
己省点时间和精力,也为后来的兄弟姐妹着想,就不要区分他引自引了。Exhibit list
写好了,contribution抓
住重点,推荐信不要让抓到小辫子,就可以了。
如果我的这篇小文能帮助大家节约一点时间,我就很满足了。
祝大家都早绿!
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s*a
3
之前承诺收到钱包时候要上图片,ups大叔昨晚又把邮包扔俺家门口了.
钱包质量还不错,价格是税前112.
图一是那钱包.
图二是和之前的包合照了一下.
感谢收看.
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i*d
4
★性别:女
★出生年份: 1985
★所在地(至少明确state): 北卡
★职业情况(学生还是工作):学生
★简单的物理参数(身高/体重): 165cm/106lb
★血型、星座:
★当前婚姻状态(从没结过婚/曾婚/丧偶): 从未
★联系方式(email/IM/站内): 站内
★是否希望版务对本帖锁贴并禁止讨论:没关系
在美国摸爬滚打了这些年,也从少不更事成长起来,具有谈婚论嫁的思想准备了。
小时候家里管得多,一直是个乖乖女,其实心里很叛逆,这一叛逆就飞了半个地球,离家千万里,才知道生活的艰辛。我
为自己的进步感到自豪,也由衷希望能找到那个他。我们开开心心,相互促进提高,积极向上得面对一切。
我的长相,应该用温顺甜美来说比较贴切。虽然现在25.5的年纪了,依然有纯洁的眼神。干活时努力,休闲时放松,喜欢
在树林间漫步,还有拿着学生证买打折的演出票。
希望你年龄不要太大,35以下。(*在北卡,很重要*)追求健康的生活方式,对未来和另一半有比较清晰的认识。喜欢
自己的工作,也支持我的努力。在空闲时间愿意陪我去看演出,锻炼身体。我也会给你同样的支持和陪伴。
谢谢。
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n*w
5
是google assistant吗?手机是nexus 6p。
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r*s
6
这么早就开始花粉过敏了,我这边今天还下雪呢,
claritin d好像效果还可以
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n*3
7
gxgx
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s*a
8


【在 s****a 的大作中提到】
: 之前承诺收到钱包时候要上图片,ups大叔昨晚又把邮包扔俺家门口了.
: 钱包质量还不错,价格是税前112.
: 图一是那钱包.
: 图二是和之前的包合照了一下.
: 感谢收看.

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c*g
9
bless.
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v*w
10
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n*y
11
isnt it what life all about?
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s*s
12
赞~楼主还是背景牛啊~ 感觉文章多了引用上去了怎么都好搞~
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B*h
13
不错不错,要看真人秀
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w*k
14
bless~~

离家千万里,才知道生活的艰辛。我
积极向上得面对一切。
神。干活时努力,休闲时放松,喜欢
来和另一半有比较清晰的认识。喜欢
你同样的支持和陪伴。

【在 i*********d 的大作中提到】
: ★性别:女
: ★出生年份: 1985
: ★所在地(至少明确state): 北卡
: ★职业情况(学生还是工作):学生
: ★简单的物理参数(身高/体重): 165cm/106lb
: ★血型、星座:
: ★当前婚姻状态(从没结过婚/曾婚/丧偶): 从未
: ★联系方式(email/IM/站内): 站内
: ★是否希望版务对本帖锁贴并禁止讨论:没关系
: 在美国摸爬滚打了这些年,也从少不更事成长起来,具有谈婚论嫁的思想准备了。

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n*w
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什么时候偷偷送的?这个不是贵得pixel手机得一个卖点吗?

【在 v*****w 的大作中提到】
: 是
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z*i
16
我们这里也花粉了,车上都是一层花粉
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c*n
17
gxgx~

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

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j*8
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漂亮!
包包你还没背啊?
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d*g
19
bless!
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k*e
20
新界面啥样子?
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c*e
21
加油,再坚持一下
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c*g
22
Cong!
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i*r
23
我買的是同色的小錢包
可是用了不久後發現边边的紅色被磨掉了,5555555還沒怎麼用呢
大家知道怎麼保養和修復麼???多謝指教先
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t*8
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bless
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v*w
25
多了一堆点点

【在 k***e 的大作中提到】
: 新界面啥样子?
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f*r
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congrats
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c*7
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真pp
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y*n
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bless
mm来加州吧。呵呵
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v*w
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至少好几个星期了。。。已经不是pixel exclusive啦

【在 n*w 的大作中提到】
: 什么时候偷偷送的?这个不是贵得pixel手机得一个卖点吗?
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q*k
30
cong

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

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r*g
31
这个粉色gold coast会不会太扎眼了?

【在 s****a 的大作中提到】
: 之前承诺收到钱包时候要上图片,ups大叔昨晚又把邮包扔俺家门口了.
: 钱包质量还不错,价格是税前112.
: 图一是那钱包.
: 图二是和之前的包合照了一下.
: 感谢收看.

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B*k
32
bless

【在 i*********d 的大作中提到】
: ★性别:女
: ★出生年份: 1985
: ★所在地(至少明确state): 北卡
: ★职业情况(学生还是工作):学生
: ★简单的物理参数(身高/体重): 165cm/106lb
: ★血型、星座:
: ★当前婚姻状态(从没结过婚/曾婚/丧偶): 从未
: ★联系方式(email/IM/站内): 站内
: ★是否希望版务对本帖锁贴并禁止讨论:没关系
: 在美国摸爬滚打了这些年,也从少不更事成长起来,具有谈婚论嫁的思想准备了。

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k*e
33
我的也有了,一上来就要location history, 不给就退出了?

【在 v*****w 的大作中提到】
: 多了一堆点点
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a*l
34
惭愧,引用多全托google的福,撇掉自引,撇掉乱七八糟的被google收录的引用,也就
100出头。
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i*r
35
偶就是因為夏天,才買的

【在 r*********g 的大作中提到】
: 这个粉色gold coast会不会太扎眼了?
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m*6
36
bless~!

【在 i*********d 的大作中提到】
: ★性别:女
: ★出生年份: 1985
: ★所在地(至少明确state): 北卡
: ★职业情况(学生还是工作):学生
: ★简单的物理参数(身高/体重): 165cm/106lb
: ★血型、星座:
: ★当前婚姻状态(从没结过婚/曾婚/丧偶): 从未
: ★联系方式(email/IM/站内): 站内
: ★是否希望版务对本帖锁贴并禁止讨论:没关系
: 在美国摸爬滚打了这些年,也从少不更事成长起来,具有谈婚论嫁的思想准备了。

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d*n
37
恭喜!

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

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t*d
38
还好

【在 r*********g 的大作中提到】
: 这个粉色gold coast会不会太扎眼了?
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a*6
39
建议妹妹到南北卡版也发个广告。

【在 i*********d 的大作中提到】
: ★性别:女
: ★出生年份: 1985
: ★所在地(至少明确state): 北卡
: ★职业情况(学生还是工作):学生
: ★简单的物理参数(身高/体重): 165cm/106lb
: ★血型、星座:
: ★当前婚姻状态(从没结过婚/曾婚/丧偶): 从未
: ★联系方式(email/IM/站内): 站内
: ★是否希望版务对本帖锁贴并禁止讨论:没关系
: 在美国摸爬滚打了这些年,也从少不更事成长起来,具有谈婚论嫁的思想准备了。

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s*0
40
cong!

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

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c*r
41
BLESS
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k*r
42
gxgx!
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b*p
43
Bless 北卡,多么美好的回忆啊!

【在 i*********d 的大作中提到】
: ★性别:女
: ★出生年份: 1985
: ★所在地(至少明确state): 北卡
: ★职业情况(学生还是工作):学生
: ★简单的物理参数(身高/体重): 165cm/106lb
: ★血型、星座:
: ★当前婚姻状态(从没结过婚/曾婚/丧偶): 从未
: ★联系方式(email/IM/站内): 站内
: ★是否希望版务对本帖锁贴并禁止讨论:没关系
: 在美国摸爬滚打了这些年,也从少不更事成长起来,具有谈婚论嫁的思想准备了。

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u*n
44
Cong!

【在 s********0 的大作中提到】
: cong!
:
: August
: 述:
: scientists

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y*n
45
赞温顺甜美
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x*h
46
gongxi

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

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c*l
47
gxgx
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d*y
48
cong
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W*J
49
Cong!

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

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p*a
50
GXGX

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

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C*d
51
gxgx

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

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e*n
52
gxgx! Mark!
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z*0
53
GXGX!helpful
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n*m
54
CONG !!!

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

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s*6
55
恭喜,
mark了,回头研究一下。
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a*l
56
updated
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d*p
57
恭喜
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A*n
58
cong
大大的沾喜气

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

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i*y
59
cong,什么是油灯图?怎么用?

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

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i*y
60
再请教一下,会议文章能不能算publication?article的数量提总数还是会议期刊分开
提好?

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

avatar
l*3
61
why "任何地方出现average都是大忌啊"?
Many used such as 2007 productivity index or average citation rate to
compare. Can you explain? Thanks much!
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q*d
62
GXGX!helpful
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W*n
63
Big cong
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i*y
64
lz能不能分享一下petition letter哦。特别想看一下contribution怎么写的。

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

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a*l
65
it depends on your own situation. If you have more than 10 papers, I would
suggest you separate them. Otherwise, put them together.
For me, I use conference posters/oral presentations to demonstrate
Contribution section: "4) I was invited to give seminar speech at top
universities and conferences as a leading expert in the field. "

【在 i*****y 的大作中提到】
: 再请教一下,会议文章能不能算publication?article的数量提总数还是会议期刊分开
: 提好?
:
: August
: 述:
: scientists

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a*l
66
Frankly, I wrote less than 10% of my own words in the Contribution. 90+% of
the contents are from citing recommendation letter, citing the sentences in
the papers who cited my papers. etc.
I think the outline is really the key for my contribution, which I already
shared in my original poster. I just re-group all the sentences in
recommendation letters, different papers, evidence into this 6 sections. I
honestly believe that once you finish writing your recommendation letter.
There is very little writing involved in your petition letter, especially
the contribution part. Hope this helps.
1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread
public commentary. 3) My research has been used as a teaching tool by
worldwide professors. 4) I was invited to give seminar speech at top
universities and conferences as a leading expert in the field. 5) My
research influenced and revolutionized the field 6) experts throughout the
field currently consider my work important.

【在 i*****y 的大作中提到】
: lz能不能分享一下petition letter哦。特别想看一下contribution怎么写的。
:
: August
: 述:
: scientists

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a*l
67
In my point of view, you have to demonstrate to IO that you are "at the top
of your field" (e.g. top 1%). How can comparing to "average" can deliver
this message? I was worried about RFE so I choose not to show this kind of
data.
If I HAVE TO compare, I would compare my productivity to my reference, who
claimed in the letter to be at the top of the field (I like assistant
professor much better than senior full professors because they could be more
like "peers"). But this is also tricky, as you cannot find all reference
who is at the similar level as you. Sometimes you can not avoid finding
reference who has tons of papers and citation (I have this kind of reference
too).
So weighing all the options, I choose not to compare with anything. Just use
hard data to show my papers were published on top journals. The citations
to my papers are at the top in my field (using certain key words) in ISI
data base.

【在 l*******3 的大作中提到】
: why "任何地方出现average都是大忌啊"?
: Many used such as 2007 productivity index or average citation rate to
: compare. Can you explain? Thanks much!

avatar
a*l
68
Additionally, I would argue that assistant professors could be better
choices as your reference than full professors, NAS members or Nobel prize
winner.
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a*l
69
Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
5, 2013
背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread
public commentary. 3) My research has been used as a teaching tool by
worldwide professors. 4) I was invited to give seminar speech at top
universities and conferences as a leading expert in the field. 5) My
research influenced and revolutionized the field 6) experts throughout the
field currently consider my work important.
所有的文章,会议,推荐信,乱七八糟的东西都是分拆到这6项里面。我的依据就是,
他们看不懂你的贡献,但这6个section总归看得懂的 (他们ref里面就是用的类似的语
言)。
2) exhibit list我花了点精力去做了,5页左右,就是一个简洁版的petition letter
。highlight top percentage all over the letter,用的是eigenfactor,基本没提
impact factor。在信里我没有用任何图表,所有的油灯图什么的都在exhibit里面 (估
计他们不会去看的)。美国人喜欢看书的多,但去看看书店的top seller,有多少带图
表有多少基本通篇都是文字的?
3) 我用的google scholar,没有区分自引,他引,就打印了一个summary,里面乱七八
糟的中文引用都没有去管。油灯图就打印了一个researcherID的版本。没有和平均数进
行对比。感觉任何地方出现average都是大忌啊。
4) 任何地方都不要出现young,potential,will这些词。推荐信写完用关键词搜一些
把,有时候不留神这些词就出现了。不要放推荐人的CV (打印他们一个主页就行,以
防对比citation)。小奖小东西travel award都不要放,推荐人如果坚持要用young
scientist,最好还是把那份推荐信放抽屉里留个纪念把,不要拿出去显摆了。版上不
是有“断臂”的说服嘛,哈哈。
5) 学文科的officer,会care一些我们理工care的东西吗?
真心觉得没有必要手工画油灯图,手工翻译google scholar里的中文引用。另外,为自
己省点时间和精力,也为后来的兄弟姐妹着想,就不要区分他引自引了。Exhibit list
写好了,contribution抓
住重点,推荐信不要让抓到小辫子,就可以了。
如果我的这篇小文能帮助大家节约一点时间,我就很满足了。
祝大家都早绿!
=================================
谢版务包子,再补充一点:独立推荐人
什么是独立推荐人?我以为,没在一起发过文章的就是独立推荐人。 实验室已经离开
的师兄师姐,老板的朋友,你朋友的哥们,etc
并且,要通过他们的口吻,点名自己是“独立推荐人”。比如:"I met ananatl at a
meeting, I was very impressed by his work.... As I have never collaborated
with him, I am writing this letter as an independent reference...."
既然人家专家已经自称独立推荐人了,officer不信也得信,他有必要挑战不懂领域的
“权威”吗?
用助理教授,副教授的信我觉得根本没有可以担心的。助理教授如果不是专家,那
postdoc更不可能是“顶尖专家”,不是“顶尖专家“能拿eb1a吗?
助理教授在信里可以自称“world expert” (对你来说用这些词也是一个很好的拍马
屁机会),officer不信也得信,again,他有必要挑战不懂领域的"权威"吗?我一个推
荐人是欧洲的,职位可能相当于美国的research associate,我也用了。我都搞不懂欧
洲研究所的不同职位的意义,你能指望officer能搞懂?只要推荐人认可你信里说的啥
,那他就是啥。
我用了师兄师姐的信,没用以前和现在老板的信。现老板写了一份笼统的赞美信,我放
到additional info去支持employment什么的了(虽然EB1a是不需要employment的)
我对独立推荐人的定义:现在工作单位和你的不同 AND 没在一起发过文章,写过基金
AND 信里自称“independent reference”。再严格的定义,一是没有必要,二是浪费
精力。
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n*3
70
gxgx
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s*s
71
赞~楼主还是背景牛啊~ 感觉文章多了引用上去了怎么都好搞~
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c*n
72
gxgx~

August
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scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

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c*g
73
Cong!
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f*r
74
congrats
avatar
q*k
75
cong

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

avatar
a*l
76
惭愧,引用多全托google的福,撇掉自引,撇掉乱七八糟的被google收录的引用,也就
100出头。
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d*n
77
恭喜!

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

avatar
s*0
78
cong!

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

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k*r
79
gxgx!
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u*n
80
Cong!

【在 s********0 的大作中提到】
: cong!
:
: August
: 述:
: scientists

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x*h
81
gongxi

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

avatar
c*l
82
gxgx
avatar
d*y
83
cong
avatar
W*J
84
Cong!

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

avatar
p*a
85
GXGX

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

avatar
C*d
86
gxgx

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

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e*n
87
gxgx! Mark!
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z*0
88
GXGX!helpful
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n*m
89
CONG !!!

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

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s*6
90
恭喜,
mark了,回头研究一下。
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a*l
91
updated
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d*p
92
恭喜
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A*n
93
cong
大大的沾喜气

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

avatar
i*y
94
cong,什么是油灯图?怎么用?

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

avatar
i*y
95
再请教一下,会议文章能不能算publication?article的数量提总数还是会议期刊分开
提好?

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

avatar
l*3
96
why "任何地方出现average都是大忌啊"?
Many used such as 2007 productivity index or average citation rate to
compare. Can you explain? Thanks much!
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q*d
97
GXGX!helpful
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W*n
98
Big cong
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i*y
99
lz能不能分享一下petition letter哦。特别想看一下contribution怎么写的。

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

avatar
a*l
100
it depends on your own situation. If you have more than 10 papers, I would
suggest you separate them. Otherwise, put them together.
For me, I use conference posters/oral presentations to demonstrate
Contribution section: "4) I was invited to give seminar speech at top
universities and conferences as a leading expert in the field. "

【在 i*****y 的大作中提到】
: 再请教一下,会议文章能不能算publication?article的数量提总数还是会议期刊分开
: 提好?
:
: August
: 述:
: scientists

avatar
a*l
101
Frankly, I wrote less than 10% of my own words in the Contribution. 90+% of
the contents are from citing recommendation letter, citing the sentences in
the papers who cited my papers. etc.
I think the outline is really the key for my contribution, which I already
shared in my original poster. I just re-group all the sentences in
recommendation letters, different papers, evidence into this 6 sections. I
honestly believe that once you finish writing your recommendation letter.
There is very little writing involved in your petition letter, especially
the contribution part. Hope this helps.
1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread
public commentary. 3) My research has been used as a teaching tool by
worldwide professors. 4) I was invited to give seminar speech at top
universities and conferences as a leading expert in the field. 5) My
research influenced and revolutionized the field 6) experts throughout the
field currently consider my work important.

【在 i*****y 的大作中提到】
: lz能不能分享一下petition letter哦。特别想看一下contribution怎么写的。
:
: August
: 述:
: scientists

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a*l
102
In my point of view, you have to demonstrate to IO that you are "at the top
of your field" (e.g. top 1%). How can comparing to "average" can deliver
this message? I was worried about RFE so I choose not to show this kind of
data.
If I HAVE TO compare, I would compare my productivity to my reference, who
claimed in the letter to be at the top of the field (I like assistant
professor much better than senior full professors because they could be more
like "peers"). But this is also tricky, as you cannot find all reference
who is at the similar level as you. Sometimes you can not avoid finding
reference who has tons of papers and citation (I have this kind of reference
too).
So weighing all the options, I choose not to compare with anything. Just use
hard data to show my papers were published on top journals. The citations
to my papers are at the top in my field (using certain key words) in ISI
data base.

【在 l*******3 的大作中提到】
: why "任何地方出现average都是大忌啊"?
: Many used such as 2007 productivity index or average citation rate to
: compare. Can you explain? Thanks much!

avatar
a*l
103
Additionally, I would argue that assistant professors could be better
choices as your reference than full professors, NAS members or Nobel prize
winner.
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c*a
104
big cong

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

avatar
c*a
105
Gx

August
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

avatar
s*2
106
gxgx

【在 c*******a 的大作中提到】
: Gx
:
: August
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8

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w*i
107
Cong!
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a*t
108
恭喜,tsc就是快啊
avatar
j*t
109
牛,cong
avatar
q*a
110
Big congratulation.

August
述:
scientists

【在 a*****l 的大作中提到】
: Receipt date: July 9, 2013, Priority date: July 8, 2013, Notice date: August
: 5, 2013
: 背景:生物类,美国州立博士,藤校 postdoc,20+文章,1/3第一作者,没顶尖牛文,
: 300不到引用。30个不到审稿。老3样。
: 版上信息都很全了,只有一些想补充的:
: put yourself in the shoes of USCIS officer: 怎么说呢,我觉得他们基本看不懂学
: 术贡献,不会太care哪篇文章讲了哪个story,所以,在contribution,我没有采用常
: 见的以几篇代表文章为中心展开的模板,而是采用了"ref 关键句“模板:分成6段阐述:
: 1) My research was extensive referenced, used and implemented by scientists
: worldwide. 2) My research was heavily discussed and provoked widespread

avatar
x*n
111
cong!
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y*4
112
Marker一下
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