n*b
2 楼
昨天进了一个摄影群，看他们都在聊相机，镜头，光圈，感光度，索尼和尼康携手对抗
佳能，吵得一地鸡毛，群主盘查我的身份，我说我用的是徕卡，于是一群人点赞！毒！
德味儿！大师！学习了！群主崇敬地问我用的是徕卡哪个型号，我说华为P10，然后…
…我被踢了出来。
佳能，吵得一地鸡毛，群主盘查我的身份，我说我用的是徕卡，于是一群人点赞！毒！
德味儿！大师！学习了！群主崇敬地问我用的是徕卡哪个型号，我说华为P10，然后…
…我被踢了出来。
a*i
3 楼
你应该就说p10的
g*n
4 楼
早期的sony相机就有一款型号是P10
不过用的是蔡司的头
【在 a********i 的大作中提到】
: 你应该就说p10的
不过用的是蔡司的头
【在 a********i 的大作中提到】
: 你应该就说p10的
x*u
5 楼
Art of good enough.
: 哈哈哈。买买提的摄影器材版上就有一群傻叉，啥都不懂，你去跟他们讲一讲真
相，他
: 们就骂你。
: 哈哈哈。买买提的摄影器材版上就有一群傻叉，啥都不懂，你去跟他们讲一讲真
相，他
: 们就骂你。
l*5
6 楼
告他们手机歧视！
b*n
7 楼
没看懂。莱卡跟华为P10有什么关系？
【在 n*******b 的大作中提到】
: 昨天进了一个摄影群，看他们都在聊相机，镜头，光圈，感光度，索尼和尼康携手对抗
: 佳能，吵得一地鸡毛，群主盘查我的身份，我说我用的是徕卡，于是一群人点赞！毒！
: 德味儿！大师！学习了！群主崇敬地问我用的是徕卡哪个型号，我说华为P10，然后…
: …我被踢了出来。
【在 n*******b 的大作中提到】
: 昨天进了一个摄影群，看他们都在聊相机，镜头，光圈，感光度，索尼和尼康携手对抗
: 佳能，吵得一地鸡毛，群主盘查我的身份，我说我用的是徕卡，于是一群人点赞！毒！
: 德味儿！大师！学习了！群主崇敬地问我用的是徕卡哪个型号，我说华为P10，然后…
: …我被踢了出来。
a*g
8 楼
搞不懂哦哦哦哦
【在 n*******b 的大作中提到】
: 昨天进了一个摄影群，看他们都在聊相机，镜头，光圈，感光度，索尼和尼康携手对抗
: 佳能，吵得一地鸡毛，群主盘查我的身份，我说我用的是徕卡，于是一群人点赞！毒！
: 德味儿！大师！学习了！群主崇敬地问我用的是徕卡哪个型号，我说华为P10，然后…
: …我被踢了出来。
【在 n*******b 的大作中提到】
: 昨天进了一个摄影群，看他们都在聊相机，镜头，光圈，感光度，索尼和尼康携手对抗
: 佳能，吵得一地鸡毛，群主盘查我的身份，我说我用的是徕卡，于是一群人点赞！毒！
: 德味儿！大师！学习了！群主崇敬地问我用的是徕卡哪个型号，我说华为P10，然后…
: …我被踢了出来。
a*i
9 楼
华为p10的镜头是徕卡的
【在 b******n 的大作中提到】
: 没看懂。莱卡跟华为P10有什么关系？
【在 b******n 的大作中提到】
: 没看懂。莱卡跟华为P10有什么关系？
j*r
10 楼
co-engineered with Leica而已，不是Leica lens
【在 a********i 的大作中提到】
: 华为p10的镜头是徕卡的
【在 a********i 的大作中提到】
: 华为p10的镜头是徕卡的
l*0
11 楼
这个中文叫 开光
【在 j*********r 的大作中提到】
: co-engineered with Leica而已，不是Leica lens
【在 j*********r 的大作中提到】
: co-engineered with Leica而已，不是Leica lens
j*r
12 楼
【在 l*****0 的大作中提到】
: 这个中文叫 开光
a*i
13 楼
那句话我的理解是 co-engineered是手机，其中的相机叫 Leica dual camera 2.0
没必要故意黑
【在 j*********r 的大作中提到】
: co-engineered with Leica而已，不是Leica lens
没必要故意黑
【在 j*********r 的大作中提到】
: co-engineered with Leica而已，不是Leica lens
j*r
14 楼
我没黑啊，就是支出事实而已，化为p9就是这么搞的，p10不知道跟p9有没有本质不同
。你自己看好了
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/04/19/huawei-leica/
When announced, Huawei’s P9 smartphone was pretty exciting, thanks to its
“co-engineered” with Leica labeling and marketing. For anyone in the
photography field, knowing that Leica’s legendary reputation was being
placed alongside a Chinese manufactured smartphone is pretty huge,
especially with phrases like, “reinvent smartphone photography” and “
Leica dual lenses” being tossed on all of Huawei’s promotional material.
At the time of announcement, Huawei explicitly stated that the camera
experience has a whole was co-engineered with Leica, leading customers to
assume that the camera-maker had some sort of hand in the creation of the
modules. Come to find out, that is not exactly the case.
Thanks to recent information clarified by Huawei and written by multiple
outlets from across the globe, the origins of the camera hardware inside of
the P9 and P9 Plus have been traced to Sunny Optical, a Chinese smartphone
camera manufacturer. In fact, Sunny Optical is the world’s largest mobile
phone camera module supplier, according to My Drivers. As it turns out,
Leica had virtually zero input on the overall camera itself, but instead,
lent certification for the module, providing no actual help in the
development or production of the optics. On Huawei’s website, it is stated
(under a dropdown banner, mind you) that the phones have a Leica co-
engineered “Picture Quality Algorithm” baked in, and that’s it from what
I can find.
To sum it up, no, these are not Leica lenses. At the end of the day, Leica
had very little involvement at all (Update: See Huawei’s response and
clarification below), and really, this was purely a marketing move by Huawei
to help sell phones. Is it a big deal? No, not exactly, but I do feel that
there is quite a bit of misrepresentation going on here, and from a consumer
standpoint, that is not right. When you say “co-engineered” and “Leica
dual lenses” directly on your company’s product page, it’s false.
Instead of leaning on Leica’s name to sell people a phone, Huawei should
have been more straightforward with what it was offering. According to many
who have taken shots on the P9 and P9 Plus, they supposedly have fantastic
cameras, so why the gimmicks?
Update #2: Huawei and Leica have released a joint statement concerning this
issue.
Update: Huawei has reached out directly with a statement, providing a
clearer picture of Leica’s exact involvement with regard to “co-
engineering” the P9 and P9 Plus. According to the statement, Leica has been
“deeply involved,” in the development of these phones, ranging from work
on the optical design, imaging quality, and mechanical construction of the
camera module.
【在 a********i 的大作中提到】
: 那句话我的理解是 co-engineered是手机，其中的相机叫 Leica dual camera 2.0
: 没必要故意黑
。你自己看好了
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/04/19/huawei-leica/
When announced, Huawei’s P9 smartphone was pretty exciting, thanks to its
“co-engineered” with Leica labeling and marketing. For anyone in the
photography field, knowing that Leica’s legendary reputation was being
placed alongside a Chinese manufactured smartphone is pretty huge,
especially with phrases like, “reinvent smartphone photography” and “
Leica dual lenses” being tossed on all of Huawei’s promotional material.
At the time of announcement, Huawei explicitly stated that the camera
experience has a whole was co-engineered with Leica, leading customers to
assume that the camera-maker had some sort of hand in the creation of the
modules. Come to find out, that is not exactly the case.
Thanks to recent information clarified by Huawei and written by multiple
outlets from across the globe, the origins of the camera hardware inside of
the P9 and P9 Plus have been traced to Sunny Optical, a Chinese smartphone
camera manufacturer. In fact, Sunny Optical is the world’s largest mobile
phone camera module supplier, according to My Drivers. As it turns out,
Leica had virtually zero input on the overall camera itself, but instead,
lent certification for the module, providing no actual help in the
development or production of the optics. On Huawei’s website, it is stated
(under a dropdown banner, mind you) that the phones have a Leica co-
engineered “Picture Quality Algorithm” baked in, and that’s it from what
I can find.
To sum it up, no, these are not Leica lenses. At the end of the day, Leica
had very little involvement at all (Update: See Huawei’s response and
clarification below), and really, this was purely a marketing move by Huawei
to help sell phones. Is it a big deal? No, not exactly, but I do feel that
there is quite a bit of misrepresentation going on here, and from a consumer
standpoint, that is not right. When you say “co-engineered” and “Leica
dual lenses” directly on your company’s product page, it’s false.
Instead of leaning on Leica’s name to sell people a phone, Huawei should
have been more straightforward with what it was offering. According to many
who have taken shots on the P9 and P9 Plus, they supposedly have fantastic
cameras, so why the gimmicks?
Update #2: Huawei and Leica have released a joint statement concerning this
issue.
Update: Huawei has reached out directly with a statement, providing a
clearer picture of Leica’s exact involvement with regard to “co-
engineering” the P9 and P9 Plus. According to the statement, Leica has been
“deeply involved,” in the development of these phones, ranging from work
on the optical design, imaging quality, and mechanical construction of the
camera module.
【在 a********i 的大作中提到】
: 那句话我的理解是 co-engineered是手机，其中的相机叫 Leica dual camera 2.0
: 没必要故意黑
j*r
15 楼
这个是华为和leica关于P9/P9+ camera module的声明全文，没有提到leica镜头。另外
P9/P9+和P10在华为官网上的宣传都是一样的：Co-engineered with Leica
Leica and Huawei co-engineered P9 camera module
[Düsseldorf, Germany, Düsseldorf – 21 April 2016] – In February,
Huawei and Leica announced a long-term strategic partnership. The camera
function is the most used smartphone application and our aim is to bring it
up to the high standards demanded by the Leica product philosophy. Leica
brings to the cooperation their expertise gathered from decades of
experience in optical engineering and optical design.
The collaboration between Huawei and Leica aims to deliver the best
possible picture quality in the smartphone segment. Both companies have been
working closely to co-engineer Huawei’s recently launched premium
smartphone – the P9 – based on innovation and excellent craftsmanship.
The camera module of the P9 series and the achievable picture quality is
the result of the intensive technological collaboration between Huawei and
Leica. Leica has been deeply involved in the development of the camera-
module of the P9 and P9 Plus. Our joint objective was to achieve the best
possible image results and optical imaging performance in order to provide
consumers in the smartphone photography segment with the best possible
picture quality. The result raises smartphone photography to an entirely new
level.
Our co-engineering is deeply embedded in the product and Leica’s
contribution has involved:
Collaborative development, evaluation and optimization of optical
design (lens calculation) in compliance with Leica standards.
Collaborative development of the mechanical construction of the
camera module to reduce stray light effects (“ghost and flare”).
Definition of imaging quality in terms of color rendition/color
fidelity, white balance, stray light reduction (“ghost & flare effects”),
exposure precision, dynamic range, sharpness and noise characteristics.
Processing of image data with the aid of long-standing Leica optical
and signal processing expertise
Definition of the most stringent common quality standards and
production requirements for serial production by Huawei to ensure
consistently high quality.
Leica’s globally recognized expertise is based to a large extent on the
ability to guarantee the narrowest tolerances on the market. This
justifiable claim to excellence is naturally also an integral component of
the technology partnership and is implemented in Huawei’s production
processes of the P9 camera module to ensure uncompromising quality.
【在 a********i 的大作中提到】
: 那句话我的理解是 co-engineered是手机，其中的相机叫 Leica dual camera 2.0
: 没必要故意黑
P9/P9+和P10在华为官网上的宣传都是一样的：Co-engineered with Leica
Leica and Huawei co-engineered P9 camera module
[Düsseldorf, Germany, Düsseldorf – 21 April 2016] – In February,
Huawei and Leica announced a long-term strategic partnership. The camera
function is the most used smartphone application and our aim is to bring it
up to the high standards demanded by the Leica product philosophy. Leica
brings to the cooperation their expertise gathered from decades of
experience in optical engineering and optical design.
The collaboration between Huawei and Leica aims to deliver the best
possible picture quality in the smartphone segment. Both companies have been
working closely to co-engineer Huawei’s recently launched premium
smartphone – the P9 – based on innovation and excellent craftsmanship.
The camera module of the P9 series and the achievable picture quality is
the result of the intensive technological collaboration between Huawei and
Leica. Leica has been deeply involved in the development of the camera-
module of the P9 and P9 Plus. Our joint objective was to achieve the best
possible image results and optical imaging performance in order to provide
consumers in the smartphone photography segment with the best possible
picture quality. The result raises smartphone photography to an entirely new
level.
Our co-engineering is deeply embedded in the product and Leica’s
contribution has involved:
Collaborative development, evaluation and optimization of optical
design (lens calculation) in compliance with Leica standards.
Collaborative development of the mechanical construction of the
camera module to reduce stray light effects (“ghost and flare”).
Definition of imaging quality in terms of color rendition/color
fidelity, white balance, stray light reduction (“ghost & flare effects”),
exposure precision, dynamic range, sharpness and noise characteristics.
Processing of image data with the aid of long-standing Leica optical
and signal processing expertise
Definition of the most stringent common quality standards and
production requirements for serial production by Huawei to ensure
consistently high quality.
Leica’s globally recognized expertise is based to a large extent on the
ability to guarantee the narrowest tolerances on the market. This
justifiable claim to excellence is naturally also an integral component of
the technology partnership and is implemented in Huawei’s production
processes of the P9 camera module to ensure uncompromising quality.
【在 a********i 的大作中提到】
: 那句话我的理解是 co-engineered是手机，其中的相机叫 Leica dual camera 2.0
: 没必要故意黑
a*i
16 楼
p9用的假的，不代表p10就是，你自己可以搜一下
比如这个还特别说了p10plus用的镜头型号
http://www.cpanet.cn/detail_news_109253.html
现在华为因为内存事件成了焦点，很多人巴不得找出更多黑点，如果相机镜头上作假，
我相信不会今天还没有人爆
【在 j*********r 的大作中提到】
: 我没黑啊，就是支出事实而已，化为p9就是这么搞的，p10不知道跟p9有没有本质不同
: 。你自己看好了
: http://www.droid-life.com/2016/04/19/huawei-leica/
: When announced, Huawei’s P9 smartphone was pretty exciting, thanks to its
: “co-engineered” with Leica labeling and marketing. For anyone in the
: photography field, knowing that Leica’s legendary reputation was being
: placed alongside a Chinese manufactured smartphone is pretty huge,
: especially with phrases like, “reinvent smartphone photography” and “
: Leica dual lenses” being tossed on all of Huawei’s promotional material.
: At the time of announcement, Huawei explicitly stated that the camera
比如这个还特别说了p10plus用的镜头型号
http://www.cpanet.cn/detail_news_109253.html
现在华为因为内存事件成了焦点，很多人巴不得找出更多黑点，如果相机镜头上作假，
我相信不会今天还没有人爆
【在 j*********r 的大作中提到】
: 我没黑啊，就是支出事实而已，化为p9就是这么搞的，p10不知道跟p9有没有本质不同
: 。你自己看好了
: http://www.droid-life.com/2016/04/19/huawei-leica/
: When announced, Huawei’s P9 smartphone was pretty exciting, thanks to its
: “co-engineered” with Leica labeling and marketing. For anyone in the
: photography field, knowing that Leica’s legendary reputation was being
: placed alongside a Chinese manufactured smartphone is pretty huge,
: especially with phrases like, “reinvent smartphone photography” and “
: Leica dual lenses” being tossed on all of Huawei’s promotional material.
: At the time of announcement, Huawei explicitly stated that the camera
j*r
17 楼
因为这个根本没毛病，官网上的宣传的就是Co-engineered with Leica
这个化为自己的广告片说的也是Co-engineered with Leica，用的是Leica lens
technology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VMLIQvh0zY
The Huawei P10 and P10 Plus redefines what mobile photography can do by
capturing stunning, high-definition photos only made possible by Leica lens
technology. Enjoy unique, state-of- the-art camera functions such as
Portrait Enhancement, Monochrome Bokeh and Color Bokeh modes. Available in
three colors and high gloss or sandblast finishes.
【在 a********i 的大作中提到】
: p9用的假的，不代表p10就是，你自己可以搜一下
: 比如这个还特别说了p10plus用的镜头型号
: http://www.cpanet.cn/detail_news_109253.html
: 现在华为因为内存事件成了焦点，很多人巴不得找出更多黑点，如果相机镜头上作假，
: 我相信不会今天还没有人爆
这个化为自己的广告片说的也是Co-engineered with Leica，用的是Leica lens
technology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VMLIQvh0zY
The Huawei P10 and P10 Plus redefines what mobile photography can do by
capturing stunning, high-definition photos only made possible by Leica lens
technology. Enjoy unique, state-of- the-art camera functions such as
Portrait Enhancement, Monochrome Bokeh and Color Bokeh modes. Available in
three colors and high gloss or sandblast finishes.
【在 a********i 的大作中提到】
: p9用的假的，不代表p10就是，你自己可以搜一下
: 比如这个还特别说了p10plus用的镜头型号
: http://www.cpanet.cn/detail_news_109253.html
: 现在华为因为内存事件成了焦点，很多人巴不得找出更多黑点，如果相机镜头上作假，
: 我相信不会今天还没有人爆
a*i
18 楼
https://kknews.cc/digital/oy5znz6.html
華為P9、P9 Plus搭載了雙攝像頭和徠卡鏡頭Summarit H 1:2.2/27 ASPH。有業內人士
透露，這是徠卡首次授權中國光學企業代工其品牌鏡頭。
P9機身上標註的Summarit H 1:2.2/27 ASPH是徠卡鏡頭的標準命名方式，因此稱P9採用
徠卡鏡頭是沒有問題的。
的确镜头不是原厂的，不过算是代工生产的，说是leica牌子也没太大问题，就像是你
觉得国产宝马可能质量不如德产的，那也是宝马
lens
【在 j*********r 的大作中提到】
: 因为这个根本没毛病，官网上的宣传的就是Co-engineered with Leica
: 这个化为自己的广告片说的也是Co-engineered with Leica，用的是Leica lens
: technology
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VMLIQvh0zY
: The Huawei P10 and P10 Plus redefines what mobile photography can do by
: capturing stunning, high-definition photos only made possible by Leica lens
: technology. Enjoy unique, state-of- the-art camera functions such as
: Portrait Enhancement, Monochrome Bokeh and Color Bokeh modes. Available in
: three colors and high gloss or sandblast finishes.
華為P9、P9 Plus搭載了雙攝像頭和徠卡鏡頭Summarit H 1:2.2/27 ASPH。有業內人士
透露，這是徠卡首次授權中國光學企業代工其品牌鏡頭。
P9機身上標註的Summarit H 1:2.2/27 ASPH是徠卡鏡頭的標準命名方式，因此稱P9採用
徠卡鏡頭是沒有問題的。
的确镜头不是原厂的，不过算是代工生产的，说是leica牌子也没太大问题，就像是你
觉得国产宝马可能质量不如德产的，那也是宝马
lens
【在 j*********r 的大作中提到】
: 因为这个根本没毛病，官网上的宣传的就是Co-engineered with Leica
: 这个化为自己的广告片说的也是Co-engineered with Leica，用的是Leica lens
: technology
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VMLIQvh0zY
: The Huawei P10 and P10 Plus redefines what mobile photography can do by
: capturing stunning, high-definition photos only made possible by Leica lens
: technology. Enjoy unique, state-of- the-art camera functions such as
: Portrait Enhancement, Monochrome Bokeh and Color Bokeh modes. Available in
: three colors and high gloss or sandblast finishes.
j*r
19 楼
我给你的信息全部来自华为和Leica官方，不是个人或者第三方的结论，大家看看自己
判断就是了。这个是华为Leica官方共同声明里所陈述的合作项目：
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/04/21/leica-huawei-statement/
Our co-engineering is deeply embedded in the product and Leica’s
contribution has involved:
Collaborative development, evaluation and optimization of optical
design (lens calculation) in compliance with Leica standards.
Collaborative development of the mechanical construction of the
camera module to reduce stray light effects (“ghost and flare”).
Definition of imaging quality in terms of color rendition/color
fidelity, white balance, stray light reduction (“ghost & flare effects”),
exposure precision, dynamic range, sharpness and noise characteristics.
Processing of image data with the aid of long-standing Leica optical
and signal processing expertise
Definition of the most stringent common quality standards and
production requirements for serial production by Huawei to ensure
consistently high quality.
【在 a********i 的大作中提到】
: https://kknews.cc/digital/oy5znz6.html
: 華為P9、P9 Plus搭載了雙攝像頭和徠卡鏡頭Summarit H 1:2.2/27 ASPH。有業內人士
: 透露，這是徠卡首次授權中國光學企業代工其品牌鏡頭。
: P9機身上標註的Summarit H 1:2.2/27 ASPH是徠卡鏡頭的標準命名方式，因此稱P9採用
: 徠卡鏡頭是沒有問題的。
: 的确镜头不是原厂的，不过算是代工生产的，说是leica牌子也没太大问题，就像是你
: 觉得国产宝马可能质量不如德产的，那也是宝马
:
: lens
判断就是了。这个是华为Leica官方共同声明里所陈述的合作项目：
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/04/21/leica-huawei-statement/
Our co-engineering is deeply embedded in the product and Leica’s
contribution has involved:
Collaborative development, evaluation and optimization of optical
design (lens calculation) in compliance with Leica standards.
Collaborative development of the mechanical construction of the
camera module to reduce stray light effects (“ghost and flare”).
Definition of imaging quality in terms of color rendition/color
fidelity, white balance, stray light reduction (“ghost & flare effects”),
exposure precision, dynamic range, sharpness and noise characteristics.
Processing of image data with the aid of long-standing Leica optical
and signal processing expertise
Definition of the most stringent common quality standards and
production requirements for serial production by Huawei to ensure
consistently high quality.
【在 a********i 的大作中提到】
: https://kknews.cc/digital/oy5znz6.html
: 華為P9、P9 Plus搭載了雙攝像頭和徠卡鏡頭Summarit H 1:2.2/27 ASPH。有業內人士
: 透露，這是徠卡首次授權中國光學企業代工其品牌鏡頭。
: P9機身上標註的Summarit H 1:2.2/27 ASPH是徠卡鏡頭的標準命名方式，因此稱P9採用
: 徠卡鏡頭是沒有問題的。
: 的确镜头不是原厂的，不过算是代工生产的，说是leica牌子也没太大问题，就像是你
: 觉得国产宝马可能质量不如德产的，那也是宝马
:
: lens
a*i
20 楼
这些东西不就是leica擅长的吗，难道你认为leica只会制造打磨镜片？软件和算法方面
的技术都不算技术了？
【在 j*********r 的大作中提到】
: 我给你的信息全部来自华为和Leica官方，不是个人或者第三方的结论，大家看看自己
: 判断就是了。这个是华为Leica官方共同声明里所陈述的合作项目：
: http://www.droid-life.com/2016/04/21/leica-huawei-statement/
: Our co-engineering is deeply embedded in the product and Leica’s
: contribution has involved:
: Collaborative development, evaluation and optimization of optical
: design (lens calculation) in compliance with Leica standards.
: Collaborative development of the mechanical construction of the
: camera module to reduce stray light effects (“ghost and flare”).
: Definition of imaging quality in terms of color rendition/color
的技术都不算技术了？
【在 j*********r 的大作中提到】
: 我给你的信息全部来自华为和Leica官方，不是个人或者第三方的结论，大家看看自己
: 判断就是了。这个是华为Leica官方共同声明里所陈述的合作项目：
: http://www.droid-life.com/2016/04/21/leica-huawei-statement/
: Our co-engineering is deeply embedded in the product and Leica’s
: contribution has involved:
: Collaborative development, evaluation and optimization of optical
: design (lens calculation) in compliance with Leica standards.
: Collaborative development of the mechanical construction of the
: camera module to reduce stray light effects (“ghost and flare”).
: Definition of imaging quality in terms of color rendition/color
j*r
21 楼
我说了啊，我贴出事实，完整地事实，结论看的人自己下，跟我无关
【在 a********i 的大作中提到】
: 这些东西不就是leica擅长的吗，难道你认为leica只会制造打磨镜片？软件和算法方面
: 的技术都不算技术了？
【在 a********i 的大作中提到】
: 这些东西不就是leica擅长的吗，难道你认为leica只会制造打磨镜片？软件和算法方面
: 的技术都不算技术了？
a*i
22 楼
那就是大家怎么判断了，的确镜头不是leica自己的，不过如果是拿了leica的设计，找
国内厂家代工的，也勉强能算leica牌子了，只是不那么正宗。
另一个类比就是iphone，设计都是apple的，制造全是别人的。当然这个类比过头了点
，毕竟iphone整体都是apple设计的，而p10只是镜头是leica设计（如果设计这条没问
题的话）
【在 j*********r 的大作中提到】
: 我说了啊，我贴出事实，完整地事实，结论看的人自己下，跟我无关
国内厂家代工的，也勉强能算leica牌子了，只是不那么正宗。
另一个类比就是iphone，设计都是apple的，制造全是别人的。当然这个类比过头了点
，毕竟iphone整体都是apple设计的，而p10只是镜头是leica设计（如果设计这条没问
题的话）
【在 j*********r 的大作中提到】
: 我说了啊，我贴出事实，完整地事实，结论看的人自己下，跟我无关
u*d
23 楼
莱卡自己制造过手机相机镜头吗？从来没有吧？这么说华为是第一个给莱卡做手机镜头
的了？怎么看怎么像华为填补了莱卡的一项空白。
【在 j*********r 的大作中提到】
: 我给你的信息全部来自华为和Leica官方，不是个人或者第三方的结论，大家看看自己
: 判断就是了。这个是华为Leica官方共同声明里所陈述的合作项目：
: http://www.droid-life.com/2016/04/21/leica-huawei-statement/
: Our co-engineering is deeply embedded in the product and Leica’s
: contribution has involved:
: Collaborative development, evaluation and optimization of optical
: design (lens calculation) in compliance with Leica standards.
: Collaborative development of the mechanical construction of the
: camera module to reduce stray light effects (“ghost and flare”).
: Definition of imaging quality in terms of color rendition/color
的了？怎么看怎么像华为填补了莱卡的一项空白。
【在 j*********r 的大作中提到】
: 我给你的信息全部来自华为和Leica官方，不是个人或者第三方的结论，大家看看自己
: 判断就是了。这个是华为Leica官方共同声明里所陈述的合作项目：
: http://www.droid-life.com/2016/04/21/leica-huawei-statement/
: Our co-engineering is deeply embedded in the product and Leica’s
: contribution has involved:
: Collaborative development, evaluation and optimization of optical
: design (lens calculation) in compliance with Leica standards.
: Collaborative development of the mechanical construction of the
: camera module to reduce stray light effects (“ghost and flare”).
: Definition of imaging quality in terms of color rendition/color
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