Olympus E-450怎么样？# PhotoGear - 摄影器材
d*y
1 楼
要求不高，入门级的就行了，从来没玩过dsl。
帮我看看这个吧，谢了。
http://www.dealslava.com/Archive/2010_07/2010_07_26/16.html
帮我看看这个吧，谢了。
http://www.dealslava.com/Archive/2010_07/2010_07_26/16.html
d*a
2 楼
唯一的缺点是不防抖
那两个套头都不错
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
: 要求不高，入门级的就行了，从来没玩过dsl。
: 帮我看看这个吧，谢了。
: http://www.dealslava.com/Archive/2010_07/2010_07_26/16.html
那两个套头都不错
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
: 要求不高，入门级的就行了，从来没玩过dsl。
: 帮我看看这个吧，谢了。
: http://www.dealslava.com/Archive/2010_07/2010_07_26/16.html
d*y
3 楼
这个可以用大光圈来克服吗？
才有了一个小孩，主要想用来拍小孩。
【在 d******a 的大作中提到】
: 唯一的缺点是不防抖
: 那两个套头都不错
d*a
4 楼
在室外没问题
室内，除非你搞几枚灯泡照明，或者花将近200块买个闪光灯
否则，配Olympus的大光圈镜头比较贵，最便宜的50/2和30/1.4都400多
拍小孩，追求性价比，不如买索尼的入门机型，然后买一百多的50/1.8
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
:
: 这个可以用大光圈来克服吗？
: 才有了一个小孩，主要想用来拍小孩。
室内，除非你搞几枚灯泡照明，或者花将近200块买个闪光灯
否则，配Olympus的大光圈镜头比较贵，最便宜的50/2和30/1.4都400多
拍小孩，追求性价比，不如买索尼的入门机型，然后买一百多的50/1.8
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
:
: 这个可以用大光圈来克服吗？
: 才有了一个小孩，主要想用来拍小孩。
d*a
5 楼
有人说我是索黑，事实并非如此
【在 d******a 的大作中提到】
: 在室外没问题
: 室内，除非你搞几枚灯泡照明，或者花将近200块买个闪光灯
: 否则，配Olympus的大光圈镜头比较贵，最便宜的50/2和30/1.4都400多
: 拍小孩，追求性价比，不如买索尼的入门机型，然后买一百多的50/1.8
【在 d******a 的大作中提到】
: 在室外没问题
: 室内，除非你搞几枚灯泡照明，或者花将近200块买个闪光灯
: 否则，配Olympus的大光圈镜头比较贵，最便宜的50/2和30/1.4都400多
: 拍小孩，追求性价比，不如买索尼的入门机型，然后买一百多的50/1.8
d*y
6 楼
板上好像很多人饭canon和nikon，前一段时间一直想入t1i的，最终忍住了。
请问一下sony的入门机有什么好推荐的吗？
【在 d******a 的大作中提到】
: 有人说我是索黑，事实并非如此
v*a
7 楼
A550
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
:
: 板上好像很多人饭canon和nikon，前一段时间一直想入t1i的，最终忍住了。
: 请问一下sony的入门机有什么好推荐的吗？
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
:
: 板上好像很多人饭canon和nikon，前一段时间一直想入t1i的，最终忍住了。
: 请问一下sony的入门机有什么好推荐的吗？
d*y
8 楼
这个好像比t1i还贵呀。
镜头便宜些？
【在 v***a 的大作中提到】
: A550
R*a
9 楼
算上今天出的俩，S+终于敢说自己入门镜头便宜了
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
:
: 这个好像比t1i还贵呀。
: 镜头便宜些？
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
:
: 这个好像比t1i还贵呀。
: 镜头便宜些？
c*y
10 楼
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/PhotoGear/32293971.html
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
:
: 这个好像比t1i还贵呀。
: 镜头便宜些？
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
:
: 这个好像比t1i还贵呀。
: 镜头便宜些？
d*0
11 楼
神医都说从香港卖家买便宜
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
:
: 这个好像比t1i还贵呀。
: 镜头便宜些？
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
:
: 这个好像比t1i还贵呀。
: 镜头便宜些？
q*z
12 楼
a230,a290
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
:
: 这个好像比t1i还贵呀。
: 镜头便宜些？
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
:
: 这个好像比t1i还贵呀。
: 镜头便宜些？
q*z
13 楼
赞,被教育改造了?
【在 d******a 的大作中提到】
: 有人说我是索黑，事实并非如此
【在 d******a 的大作中提到】
: 有人说我是索黑，事实并非如此
d*y
14 楼
a290看上去不错呀，这个18-55的镜头怎么样？有必要买吗？
http://www.amazon.com/o/asin/B003VWDSJO/00--20/
请问一下板上一般卖多少米呀？
谢谢了。
【在 q*z 的大作中提到】
: a230,a290
R*a
15 楼
不买那个镜头你用啥？
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
:
: a290看上去不错呀，这个18-55的镜头怎么样？有必要买吗？
: http://www.amazon.com/o/asin/B003VWDSJO/00--20/
: 请问一下板上一般卖多少米呀？
: 谢谢了。
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
:
: a290看上去不错呀，这个18-55的镜头怎么样？有必要买吗？
: http://www.amazon.com/o/asin/B003VWDSJO/00--20/
: 请问一下板上一般卖多少米呀？
: 谢谢了。
q*z
16 楼
你买套机会带个套头的,这个平时出门用挺好
再单买个50 1.8或 35 1.8室内用
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
:
: a290看上去不错呀，这个18-55的镜头怎么样？有必要买吗？
: http://www.amazon.com/o/asin/B003VWDSJO/00--20/
: 请问一下板上一般卖多少米呀？
: 谢谢了。
再单买个50 1.8或 35 1.8室内用
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
:
: a290看上去不错呀，这个18-55的镜头怎么样？有必要买吗？
: http://www.amazon.com/o/asin/B003VWDSJO/00--20/
: 请问一下板上一般卖多少米呀？
: 谢谢了。
d*y
17 楼
Thanks.
可以推荐一个买的地方吗？
【在 q*z 的大作中提到】
: 你买套机会带个套头的,这个平时出门用挺好
: 再单买个50 1.8或 35 1.8室内用
q*z
18 楼
a290刚出,都是卖msrp的$499,自己到bing上去search吧
b&h, adorama等大店都行
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
:
: Thanks.
: 可以推荐一个买的地方吗？
b&h, adorama等大店都行
【在 d******y 的大作中提到】
:
: Thanks.
: 可以推荐一个买的地方吗？
T*i
19 楼
E-620 要好许多。
T*i
20 楼
When I bought my first DSLR, an E-510, I bought the kit lenses. But soon I
found them not satisfying. So I ended up selling them and bought a few high
grade Olympus lenses. Believe me, if you are into photography, you want to
start with good equipments in the first place.
If you don't have the budget for all right now, you can start with a camera
and just one lens. For example, 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5 is very good for
landscapes. If you like portraits and sports, or flowers, 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5
is very
found them not satisfying. So I ended up selling them and bought a few high
grade Olympus lenses. Believe me, if you are into photography, you want to
start with good equipments in the first place.
If you don't have the budget for all right now, you can start with a camera
and just one lens. For example, 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5 is very good for
landscapes. If you like portraits and sports, or flowers, 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5
is very
d*y
21 楼
high
camera
.5
very
Thanks a lot.
【在 T****i 的大作中提到】
: When I bought my first DSLR, an E-510, I bought the kit lenses. But soon I
: found them not satisfying. So I ended up selling them and bought a few high
: grade Olympus lenses. Believe me, if you are into photography, you want to
: start with good equipments in the first place.
: If you don't have the budget for all right now, you can start with a camera
: and just one lens. For example, 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5 is very good for
: landscapes. If you like portraits and sports, or flowers, 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5
: is very
d*0
22 楼
Olympus已经快要放弃DSLR全力搞Evil了
high
camera
.5
very
【在 T****i 的大作中提到】
: When I bought my first DSLR, an E-510, I bought the kit lenses. But soon I
: found them not satisfying. So I ended up selling them and bought a few high
: grade Olympus lenses. Believe me, if you are into photography, you want to
: start with good equipments in the first place.
: If you don't have the budget for all right now, you can start with a camera
: and just one lens. For example, 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5 is very good for
: landscapes. If you like portraits and sports, or flowers, 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5
: is very
high
camera
.5
very
【在 T****i 的大作中提到】
: When I bought my first DSLR, an E-510, I bought the kit lenses. But soon I
: found them not satisfying. So I ended up selling them and bought a few high
: grade Olympus lenses. Believe me, if you are into photography, you want to
: start with good equipments in the first place.
: If you don't have the budget for all right now, you can start with a camera
: and just one lens. For example, 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5 is very good for
: landscapes. If you like portraits and sports, or flowers, 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5
: is very
e*n
23 楼
不是传言E5九月出来嘛
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: Olympus已经快要放弃DSLR全力搞Evil了
:
: high
: camera
: .5
: very
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: Olympus已经快要放弃DSLR全力搞Evil了
:
: high
: camera
: .5
: very
d*a
24 楼
50/2 全开的时候就非常锐
dpreview给了9.5/10的罕见高分
high
camera
.5
very
【在 T****i 的大作中提到】
: When I bought my first DSLR, an E-510, I bought the kit lenses. But soon I
: found them not satisfying. So I ended up selling them and bought a few high
: grade Olympus lenses. Believe me, if you are into photography, you want to
: start with good equipments in the first place.
: If you don't have the budget for all right now, you can start with a camera
: and just one lens. For example, 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5 is very good for
: landscapes. If you like portraits and sports, or flowers, 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5
: is very
dpreview给了9.5/10的罕见高分
high
camera
.5
very
【在 T****i 的大作中提到】
: When I bought my first DSLR, an E-510, I bought the kit lenses. But soon I
: found them not satisfying. So I ended up selling them and bought a few high
: grade Olympus lenses. Believe me, if you are into photography, you want to
: start with good equipments in the first place.
: If you don't have the budget for all right now, you can start with a camera
: and just one lens. For example, 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5 is very good for
: landscapes. If you like portraits and sports, or flowers, 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5
: is very
d*a
25 楼
谣言
9月份会有新机
另外，Olympus明年会出组合式相机，加上套就是4/3，摘下就是m4/3
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: Olympus已经快要放弃DSLR全力搞Evil了
:
: high
: camera
: .5
: very
9月份会有新机
另外，Olympus明年会出组合式相机，加上套就是4/3，摘下就是m4/3
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: Olympus已经快要放弃DSLR全力搞Evil了
:
: high
: camera
: .5
: very
T*i
26 楼
If you mainly use your camera to take photos for kids, Olympus may not be
the best idea. Especially E-620 does not have a focus aid, making indoor
shoot using continuous focusing hard. You have to buy a FL-36 flash to use
it infra red focus aid then. But for outdoor photos, with a good lens like
50-200mm SWD, it is super. Olympus lenses without SWD will search a little
longer before locking in the focus. That's why the 50mm f/2 lens is hard to
use under difficult lighting situations.
In general,
the best idea. Especially E-620 does not have a focus aid, making indoor
shoot using continuous focusing hard. You have to buy a FL-36 flash to use
it infra red focus aid then. But for outdoor photos, with a good lens like
50-200mm SWD, it is super. Olympus lenses without SWD will search a little
longer before locking in the focus. That's why the 50mm f/2 lens is hard to
use under difficult lighting situations.
In general,
q*z
27 楼
赞铁丝
to
to
lens
【在 T****i 的大作中提到】
: If you mainly use your camera to take photos for kids, Olympus may not be
: the best idea. Especially E-620 does not have a focus aid, making indoor
: shoot using continuous focusing hard. You have to buy a FL-36 flash to use
: it infra red focus aid then. But for outdoor photos, with a good lens like
: 50-200mm SWD, it is super. Olympus lenses without SWD will search a little
: longer before locking in the focus. That's why the 50mm f/2 lens is hard to
: use under difficult lighting situations.
: In general,
to
to
lens
【在 T****i 的大作中提到】
: If you mainly use your camera to take photos for kids, Olympus may not be
: the best idea. Especially E-620 does not have a focus aid, making indoor
: shoot using continuous focusing hard. You have to buy a FL-36 flash to use
: it infra red focus aid then. But for outdoor photos, with a good lens like
: 50-200mm SWD, it is super. Olympus lenses without SWD will search a little
: longer before locking in the focus. That's why the 50mm f/2 lens is hard to
: use under difficult lighting situations.
: In general,
T*i
28 楼
铁丝of what? :-)
T*i
29 楼
铁丝of what? :-)
【在 q*z 的大作中提到】
: 赞铁丝
:
: to
: to
: lens
【在 q*z 的大作中提到】
: 赞铁丝
:
: to
: to
: lens
d*0
30 楼
没戏，O+ 43机器只有m43销售量的1/10，被革命是大势所趋
【在 d******a 的大作中提到】
: 谣言
: 9月份会有新机
: 另外，Olympus明年会出组合式相机，加上套就是4/3，摘下就是m4/3
【在 d******a 的大作中提到】
: 谣言
: 9月份会有新机
: 另外，Olympus明年会出组合式相机，加上套就是4/3，摘下就是m4/3
T*i
31 楼
I disagree. Maybe low end 4/3 DSLR models will phase out eventually, but
flagship models will stay. Even if
m43s can match the autofocusing speed of DSLRs some day, their small sizes
are not fit for many buttons and
dials, which are necessary for quick access of parameters instead of going
through menus. Many professionals
rather prefer larger bodies for ease of handling. Let's see what the coming
E-5 will look like.
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 没戏，O+ 43机器只有m43销售量的1/10，被革命是大势所趋
flagship models will stay. Even if
m43s can match the autofocusing speed of DSLRs some day, their small sizes
are not fit for many buttons and
dials, which are necessary for quick access of parameters instead of going
through menus. Many professionals
rather prefer larger bodies for ease of handling. Let's see what the coming
E-5 will look like.
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 没戏，O+ 43机器只有m43销售量的1/10，被革命是大势所趋
c*y
32 楼
hwo many professionals who prefer larger bodies and easy handling, use 4/3 i
nstead of NC FF?
coming
【在 T****i 的大作中提到】
: I disagree. Maybe low end 4/3 DSLR models will phase out eventually, but
: flagship models will stay. Even if
: m43s can match the autofocusing speed of DSLRs some day, their small sizes
: are not fit for many buttons and
: dials, which are necessary for quick access of parameters instead of going
: through menus. Many professionals
: rather prefer larger bodies for ease of handling. Let's see what the coming
: E-5 will look like.
nstead of NC FF?
coming
【在 T****i 的大作中提到】
: I disagree. Maybe low end 4/3 DSLR models will phase out eventually, but
: flagship models will stay. Even if
: m43s can match the autofocusing speed of DSLRs some day, their small sizes
: are not fit for many buttons and
: dials, which are necessary for quick access of parameters instead of going
: through menus. Many professionals
: rather prefer larger bodies for ease of handling. Let's see what the coming
: E-5 will look like.
T*i
33 楼
You have a good point. E-5 may set the first footstep of future development.
Let's wait and see.
The advantages of FFs, high ISO performance and higher pixel density, will
be caught up by smaller sensors.
Of course, by then FFs can be even better. But there will be a threshold.
Passing that threshold, most people,
even pros, will not care. Maybe only pixel peepers will care. The only
physical law that is against smaller
sensors is DOF. But O+ has made a few super high grade zoom lenses with f/2
【在 c********y 的大作中提到】
: hwo many professionals who prefer larger bodies and easy handling, use 4/3 i
: nstead of NC FF?
:
: coming
Let's wait and see.
The advantages of FFs, high ISO performance and higher pixel density, will
be caught up by smaller sensors.
Of course, by then FFs can be even better. But there will be a threshold.
Passing that threshold, most people,
even pros, will not care. Maybe only pixel peepers will care. The only
physical law that is against smaller
sensors is DOF. But O+ has made a few super high grade zoom lenses with f/2
【在 c********y 的大作中提到】
: hwo many professionals who prefer larger bodies and easy handling, use 4/3 i
: nstead of NC FF?
:
: coming
c*y
34 楼
in terms of physical law, diffraction is the major player against smaller se
nsor.
in terms of DOF, O+ f/2 has equiv. DOF of f/4, while CN's f/2.8 is still f/2
.8
development.
2
【在 T****i 的大作中提到】
: You have a good point. E-5 may set the first footstep of future development.
: Let's wait and see.
: The advantages of FFs, high ISO performance and higher pixel density, will
: be caught up by smaller sensors.
: Of course, by then FFs can be even better. But there will be a threshold.
: Passing that threshold, most people,
: even pros, will not care. Maybe only pixel peepers will care. The only
: physical law that is against smaller
: sensors is DOF. But O+ has made a few super high grade zoom lenses with f/2
nsor.
in terms of DOF, O+ f/2 has equiv. DOF of f/4, while CN's f/2.8 is still f/2
.8
development.
2
【在 T****i 的大作中提到】
: You have a good point. E-5 may set the first footstep of future development.
: Let's wait and see.
: The advantages of FFs, high ISO performance and higher pixel density, will
: be caught up by smaller sensors.
: Of course, by then FFs can be even better. But there will be a threshold.
: Passing that threshold, most people,
: even pros, will not care. Maybe only pixel peepers will care. The only
: physical law that is against smaller
: sensors is DOF. But O+ has made a few super high grade zoom lenses with f/2
d*0
35 楼
m43像素密度这么高，镜头在光学上已经很难进步了，拼便携还可以
development.
2
【在 T****i 的大作中提到】
: You have a good point. E-5 may set the first footstep of future development.
: Let's wait and see.
: The advantages of FFs, high ISO performance and higher pixel density, will
: be caught up by smaller sensors.
: Of course, by then FFs can be even better. But there will be a threshold.
: Passing that threshold, most people,
: even pros, will not care. Maybe only pixel peepers will care. The only
: physical law that is against smaller
: sensors is DOF. But O+ has made a few super high grade zoom lenses with f/2
development.
2
【在 T****i 的大作中提到】
: You have a good point. E-5 may set the first footstep of future development.
: Let's wait and see.
: The advantages of FFs, high ISO performance and higher pixel density, will
: be caught up by smaller sensors.
: Of course, by then FFs can be even better. But there will be a threshold.
: Passing that threshold, most people,
: even pros, will not care. Maybe only pixel peepers will care. The only
: physical law that is against smaller
: sensors is DOF. But O+ has made a few super high grade zoom lenses with f/2
T*i
36 楼
That's based on the same field of view. I rarely found DOF is a problem with
4/3 in real work.
Anyway, I am not an advocate of 4/3 cameras. I just like some of the olympus
lenses. Their quality, feel, and IQ
can be very good. But for professionals, FFs are still better choices for
sure.
se
/2
【在 c********y 的大作中提到】
: in terms of physical law, diffraction is the major player against smaller se
: nsor.
: in terms of DOF, O+ f/2 has equiv. DOF of f/4, while CN's f/2.8 is still f/2
: .8
:
: development.
: 2
4/3 in real work.
Anyway, I am not an advocate of 4/3 cameras. I just like some of the olympus
lenses. Their quality, feel, and IQ
can be very good. But for professionals, FFs are still better choices for
sure.
se
/2
【在 c********y 的大作中提到】
: in terms of physical law, diffraction is the major player against smaller se
: nsor.
: in terms of DOF, O+ f/2 has equiv. DOF of f/4, while CN's f/2.8 is still f/2
: .8
:
: development.
: 2
T*i
37 楼
Small DCs can pack more pixels per unit of area, only at the cost of higher
noise. Maybe 4/3 can fix the high
noise. In fact, 4/3 cameras are getting better in this respect.
High noise is one of the big problems preventing pro wedding photographers
from choosing 4/3.
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: m43像素密度这么高，镜头在光学上已经很难进步了，拼便携还可以
:
: development.
: 2
noise. Maybe 4/3 can fix the high
noise. In fact, 4/3 cameras are getting better in this respect.
High noise is one of the big problems preventing pro wedding photographers
from choosing 4/3.
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: m43像素密度这么高，镜头在光学上已经很难进步了，拼便携还可以
:
: development.
: 2
d*0
38 楼
衍射极限跟镜头的焦距有关系，小DC像素密度高是因为镜头焦距短，在镜头焦距不增大
的情况下分辨率很难提高。所以不能通过小DC像素密度高来推测m43也能达到更高的像
素密度。实际上，小DC，m43，apsc像素都到了镜头的光学分辨率极限，打了鸡血也没啥用了。
higher
【在 T****i 的大作中提到】
: Small DCs can pack more pixels per unit of area, only at the cost of higher
: noise. Maybe 4/3 can fix the high
: noise. In fact, 4/3 cameras are getting better in this respect.
: High noise is one of the big problems preventing pro wedding photographers
: from choosing 4/3.
的情况下分辨率很难提高。所以不能通过小DC像素密度高来推测m43也能达到更高的像
素密度。实际上，小DC，m43，apsc像素都到了镜头的光学分辨率极限，打了鸡血也没啥用了。
higher
【在 T****i 的大作中提到】
: Small DCs can pack more pixels per unit of area, only at the cost of higher
: noise. Maybe 4/3 can fix the high
: noise. In fact, 4/3 cameras are getting better in this respect.
: High noise is one of the big problems preventing pro wedding photographers
: from choosing 4/3.
n*g
39 楼
小幅面镜头有些已经不错了，机身性能还可以多打点鸡血... ;-)
没啥用了。
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 衍射极限跟镜头的焦距有关系，小DC像素密度高是因为镜头焦距短，在镜头焦距不增大
: 的情况下分辨率很难提高。所以不能通过小DC像素密度高来推测m43也能达到更高的像
: 素密度。实际上，小DC，m43，apsc像素都到了镜头的光学分辨率极限，打了鸡血也没啥用了。
:
: higher
没啥用了。
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: 衍射极限跟镜头的焦距有关系，小DC像素密度高是因为镜头焦距短，在镜头焦距不增大
: 的情况下分辨率很难提高。所以不能通过小DC像素密度高来推测m43也能达到更高的像
: 素密度。实际上，小DC，m43，apsc像素都到了镜头的光学分辨率极限，打了鸡血也没啥用了。
:
: higher
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