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以下为转载,link 在第二页。
Are We Overpraising Our Children?
The negative effects of overpraising kids
Posted Dec 10, 2013
Research has shown that there are positive effects of praising children, but
it depends on what kind of praise we’re dishing out. A recent Stanford
Study (link is external) of toddlers showed that “praising effort, not
talent, leads to greater motivation and more positive attitudes toward
challenges” down the road. These findings are consistent with previous
research, which has connected praise with increased motivation in children,
but only when it is based on real attributes. As one study (link is external
) posed, “Provided that praise is perceived as sincere, it is particularly
beneficial to motivation when it encourages performance attributions to
controllable causes, promotes autonomy, enhances competence without an
overreliance on social comparisons, and conveys attainable standards and
expectations.”
The problem with many parents hoping to boost their child’s self-esteem isn
’t that they’re praising; it’s that they’re overpraising. Too often in
today’s competitive world, we focus on children’s “greatness” defining
who they are and making exaggerated statements that fail to reflect their
true abilities. According to lead researcher of the Stanford Study Prof.
Carol S. Zweck, statements like, "'You're great, you're amazing' [are] not
helpful, because later on, when [children] don't get it right or don't do it
perfectly, they'll think they aren't so great or amazing."
Self-esteem isn’t about telling kids that everything they do is terrific. A
real sense of self-worth is based on the skills they build for themselves
and the true accomplishments they feel they’ve made. However, many parents
have the tendency to build up their kids with false or exaggerated
statements. For example, instead of saying, “What a creative painting! You
really worked hard on that,” they may say something like, “Wow! What a
wonderful artist you are! You’re so talented! You’re the best painter I’
ve ever seen.” Most parents do this innocently in an effort to make their
kids feel good about themselves. Yet, on a certain, even unconscious level,
they may be trying to compensate for their own lacking childhoods. Or they
may offer build up or avoid criticism in the interest of being “liked” by
their children. They may even believe on some level that their child is “
great, amazing, superior,” because they want to be the parent of a great
artist to buoy their own fragile self-esteem.
Trouble arises when the parent does not fully appreciate or realize the
impact they are having as a lead influence on the person that child will
become. While it may seem innocent in the moment, overpraising can have
adverse long-term effects that include:
Feelings of entitlement – When we overpraise or overindulge our kids, they
get the sense that they are special - but not the good kind of special that
we hope they will feel. Rather, they may carry a sense of entitlement or
expect life to be easy for them, which leaves them unprepared to face the
challenges life will surely throw at them. Some people argue that our
recent shift toward over-parenting (link is external) is breeding narcissism
(link is external) in the new generation, and that young people today are
expecting to work less, yet get more. This mentality can truly hurt a child
who fails to build the skills to support his or her ambitions.
Feelings of inadequacy – False build-ups make children feel they need to be
great in order to be acceptable. However, they never really feel okay about
themselves, because the praise they’ve received feels empty and
unrealistic. Some parents compensate for their own emptiness by building up
their children, yet it's that feeling of emptiness that gets passed from
generation to generation. Overpraising our kids makes them feel uncertain
about their true abilities. When they feel insecure, they stop wanting to
try. They may hold back, because they feel like a phony or fear that they
will fail.
Life will be a disappointment – Parents often make sacrifices in hopes of
giving their children the best. Sometimes this is done to an extreme, and
the parent’s life starts to center solely around the child. When we cater
to a child’s every desire and treat them as royalty, we fail to reflect the
real world they will enter as adults. Our willingness to over-involve
ourselves in everything from their homework to their laundry can do more
damage than good. Not only does it fail to prepare them for their future
responsibilities, but it deprives them of opportunities to feel good about
themselves, as they evolve into responsible and skilled adolescents and
adults. Parents who do too much for their kids are actually handicapping
instead of helping them.
Loss of interest in activities– When we over-involve ourselves in our
children’s accomplishments, over-identifying or investing in their “
greatness,” we run the risk of intruding on them in a way that negatively
influences their interests. This is particularly true when we start to view
their achievements as reflections on us. For example, a young boy loved
baseball and took pride in his little league games up until the day his
father became involved. Baseball had been a source of confidence and
independence for the boy, but pretty soon his father’s presence at every
practice and loud yells from the crowd during the games started to make the
boy feel embarrassed and resentful. He came to to see baseball as a
performance instead of an activity he loved. Soon enough, he lost interest
and stopped playing the sport altogether.
In a similar story, a little girl brought home a picture she drew and showed
it to her mother. Her mom’s reaction was overwhelming. She praised her
daughter endlessly, calling her “the next Picasso.” Whenever someone came
over, she showed it off, telling visitors with pride how her daughter had
gotten her own artistic talent. Feeling like her mother was taking credit
for the picture and that her mother would take ownership of anything she
created, the little girl vowed never to draw again. She gave up an activity
she may have excelled in and enjoyed after feeling intruded on by her mother.
So what is the alternative to overpraising our kids when it comes to
building their self-esteem? Obviously, the answer is not to stop
complimenting them or supporting them in their interests. In fact, it is
just the opposite. What parents need to do is simple: take notice of
something your kids like to do and offer support and encouragement that is
realistic and appropriate. As we do this, we should aim to avoid labels. If
we call our kids pro-athletes or stars, they won’t really feel it describes
them. Again, this type of labeling is more about the parent’s wishes and
fantasies than the child’s reality. It creates pressure to perform and does
not acknowledge the practice required to achieve success. It is best to
compliment children’s efforts and acknowledge their improvement. Grandiose
praise does not make a child feel seen for who they really are. We should
also remember to be respectful of our children’s boundaries and never
connect to or take credit for their accomplishments.
Children need to feel a sense of independence and autonomy to truly have a
feeling for their own self-worth. This sense of worth must be built on
something solid. As parents, we should quietly take note of the activities
that light our children up and that boost their self-esteem. We should
sensitively help guide them toward finding something they enjoy and do well,
then provide them with opportunities to engage in the activity and develop
their skills. Without being intrusive or overbearing, we can offer support
and encouragement. We can encourage them to stick with activities even when
they get hard, so they will be more resilient and adaptive and understand
that success comes from hard work. We can do less and less for them, as they
become more competent to do things for themselves, thus building a sense of
their own capability.
Most importantly, if we want our kids to be happy, instead of just giving
them praise, we must offer them chances to feel good about themselves. We
can create opportunities for them to be self-sufficient, generous and
compassionate. Research (link is external) has proven generosity to be the
key to happiness and health, so what better gift to give our child than the
chance to offer something to the world around them? Not only will this give
them self-esteem, but it will allow them to spread this feeling of
worthiness to those around them.
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c*q
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跳的GF2现在还不寄出.....
而且发现没有放抖
用了pentax后觉得机身放抖真是好啊~~~
可惜olympus的epl2 太丑了.....
而且m4/3的问题就是要X2
nex镜头又不给力
而且查了下好像下半年出nex7...
纠结ing
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c*n
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单反用好是王道

【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: 跳的GF2现在还不寄出.....
: 而且发现没有放抖
: 用了pentax后觉得机身放抖真是好啊~~~
: 可惜olympus的epl2 太丑了.....
: 而且m4/3的问题就是要X2
: nex镜头又不给力
: 而且查了下好像下半年出nex7...
: 纠结ing

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t*r
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重要段落节选:
What parents need to do is simple: take notice of something your kids like
to do and offer support and encouragement that is realistic and appropriate.
As we do this, we should aim to avoid labels. If we call our kids pro-
athletes or stars, they won’t really feel it describes them. Again, this
type of labeling is more about the parent’s wishes and fantasies than the
child’s reality. It creates pressure to perform and does not acknowledge
the practice required to achieve success. It is best to compliment children
’s efforts and acknowledge their improvement. Grandiose praise does not
make a child feel seen for who they really are. We should also remember to
be respectful of our children’s boundaries and never connect to or take
credit for their accomplishments.

【在 t*******r 的大作中提到】
: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/compassion-matters/201312/a
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c*y
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实际使用感受,x2, x1.5的区别真的没太大
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t*r
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从这个角度看,夸 “天才” 实际上也是一种 labelling。
另外烦转版面教育学工作者同志们圈阅。

appropriate.
children

【在 t*******r 的大作中提到】
: 重要段落节选:
: What parents need to do is simple: take notice of something your kids like
: to do and offer support and encouragement that is realistic and appropriate.
: As we do this, we should aim to avoid labels. If we call our kids pro-
: athletes or stars, they won’t really feel it describes them. Again, this
: type of labeling is more about the parent’s wishes and fantasies than the
: child’s reality. It creates pressure to perform and does not acknowledge
: the practice required to achieve success. It is best to compliment children
: ’s efforts and acknowledge their improvement. Grandiose praise does not
: make a child feel seen for who they really are. We should also remember to

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c*q
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...................
还有转接手动头呢...

【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: 单反用好是王道
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Y*d
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虽然教育工作者远没有教育学工作者懂得教育,但是读过这篇文章后还是深表认同。
你认为的重要段落,与我最近总结的"providing more than expecting"也相当一致。
属实,只是这个版上提“天才”一词的频率最高的非你莫属。
当然,我自己也要反省,比如反面label一个版友“话唠”和正面label一个版友“百科
全书”都不合适。
以后尽量客观,就事论事。

【在 t*******r 的大作中提到】
: 从这个角度看,夸 “天才” 实际上也是一种 labelling。
: 另外烦转版面教育学工作者同志们圈阅。
:
: appropriate.
: children

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c*n
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用好单反是王道。把这个照好了再去玩别的吧 :)

【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: ...................
: 还有转接手动头呢...

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t*r
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我觉得 “aim to avoid labels” 不是 “completely avoid labels” 的意思。
或者俺们农民的说法,偶尔给人戴顶高帽子找乐也不算个事儿。但给戴顶高帽子押街游
行就免了吧。

【在 Y********d 的大作中提到】
:
: 虽然教育工作者远没有教育学工作者懂得教育,但是读过这篇文章后还是深表认同。
: 你认为的重要段落,与我最近总结的"providing more than expecting"也相当一致。
: 属实,只是这个版上提“天才”一词的频率最高的非你莫属。
: 当然,我自己也要反省,比如反面label一个版友“话唠”和正面label一个版友“百科
: 全书”都不合适。
: 以后尽量客观,就事论事。

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v*a
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纠结啥
先玩女朋友二号半年
甩掉
换奶七

【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: 跳的GF2现在还不寄出.....
: 而且发现没有放抖
: 用了pentax后觉得机身放抖真是好啊~~~
: 可惜olympus的epl2 太丑了.....
: 而且m4/3的问题就是要X2
: nex镜头又不给力
: 而且查了下好像下半年出nex7...
: 纠结ing

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Y*d
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“偶尔给人戴顶高帽子”的帽子和“戴顶高帽子押街游行”的帽子能一样吗?
我昨天又想了想,原文的关键词是over,所以不要over的praise还是必要的。
具体到实践上,就是what to praise, when to praise and how to praise三个问题。

【在 t*******r 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得 “aim to avoid labels” 不是 “completely avoid labels” 的意思。
: 或者俺们农民的说法,偶尔给人戴顶高帽子找乐也不算个事儿。但给戴顶高帽子押街游
: 行就免了吧。

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c*y
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啥王道,
用好单反,上全幅
否则,革命机一样好用

【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: 用好单反是王道。把这个照好了再去玩别的吧 :)
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t*r
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属实。
其实是人类语言有二义性。labelling 的用词相同但上下文环境不同,其效果也可能大
相径庭,导致实际上是两顶不同的高帽子。

【在 Y********d 的大作中提到】
:
: “偶尔给人戴顶高帽子”的帽子和“戴顶高帽子押街游行”的帽子能一样吗?
: 我昨天又想了想,原文的关键词是over,所以不要over的praise还是必要的。
: 具体到实践上,就是what to praise, when to praise and how to praise三个问题。

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c*q
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啊? 我以为转接时候焦距差很多呢....
如果区别不大, 可以理解为什么版上更喜欢m4/3的而不是nex了...

【在 c********y 的大作中提到】
: 实际使用感受,x2, x1.5的区别真的没太大
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Y*d
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属实。
所以需要改掉回帖不看贴的“快糙猛”习惯,并且有自信别人给你的是第一顶帽子。

【在 t*******r 的大作中提到】
: 属实。
: 其实是人类语言有二义性。labelling 的用词相同但上下文环境不同,其效果也可能大
: 相径庭,导致实际上是两顶不同的高帽子。

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c*q
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恩~有道理~~就这么着了!~
不过还不寄出实在囧
而且你们都说白色好看...

【在 v***a 的大作中提到】
: 纠结啥
: 先玩女朋友二号半年
: 甩掉
: 换奶七

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v*a
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nex现阶段没那么好的折扣,没好镜头,操控差

【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: 啊? 我以为转接时候焦距差很多呢....
: 如果区别不大, 可以理解为什么版上更喜欢m4/3的而不是nex了...

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k*n
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看了FF的取景器,这些都是浮云

【在 c********y 的大作中提到】
: 实际使用感受,x2, x1.5的区别真的没太大
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k*n
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我等A55降价,或A77

【在 v***a 的大作中提到】
: nex现阶段没那么好的折扣,没好镜头,操控差
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d*0
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对二奶机要求不要太高,只要比DC强就行了

【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: 跳的GF2现在还不寄出.....
: 而且发现没有放抖
: 用了pentax后觉得机身放抖真是好啊~~~
: 可惜olympus的epl2 太丑了.....
: 而且m4/3的问题就是要X2
: nex镜头又不给力
: 而且查了下好像下半年出nex7...
: 纠结ing

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v*n
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你就是个女问少...每天纠结N遍..

【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: 跳的GF2现在还不寄出.....
: 而且发现没有放抖
: 用了pentax后觉得机身放抖真是好啊~~~
: 可惜olympus的epl2 太丑了.....
: 而且m4/3的问题就是要X2
: nex镜头又不给力
: 而且查了下好像下半年出nex7...
: 纠结ing

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m*o
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打算cancel gf2?
ship出来了再自己卖问题也不大吧。。这不还好多人求epp呢。。
玩手动,反正我在外面用的时候比较多。。在家跟暗的地方很少用。。看也看不清楚。
。所以感觉机身防抖对我来说玩手动的时候帮助不大。。倒是焦点放大7x 10x的比较有
用。。gf2应该也有吧?
机身防抖在暗一点的地方还是挺好用的。。。
x2问题还不算大吧。。玩手动看你干嘛用了。。拍风景也许就算了。。照人像还是不错
的。。
epl2很丑吗?还行吧。。感觉是稍微比gf2强点吧。。反正奥吧的颜色出来还是不错的
。。打了味精的吧。。
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e*y
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可以卖多少, 本来正在出清m4/3, 结果又跟风抢了个gf2

【在 m****o 的大作中提到】
: 打算cancel gf2?
: ship出来了再自己卖问题也不大吧。。这不还好多人求epp呢。。
: 玩手动,反正我在外面用的时候比较多。。在家跟暗的地方很少用。。看也看不清楚。
: 。所以感觉机身防抖对我来说玩手动的时候帮助不大。。倒是焦点放大7x 10x的比较有
: 用。。gf2应该也有吧?
: 机身防抖在暗一点的地方还是挺好用的。。。
: x2问题还不算大吧。。玩手动看你干嘛用了。。拍风景也许就算了。。照人像还是不错
: 的。。
: epl2很丑吗?还行吧。。感觉是稍微比gf2强点吧。。反正奥吧的颜色出来还是不错的
: 。。打了味精的吧。。

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m*7
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nex的前途比固步自封的op要强。但是如果现在要买,epl2>=gf2>nex
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w*e
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建议nex 7 如果能等的话
如果有钱 那就随便了

【在 c******q 的大作中提到】
: 跳的GF2现在还不寄出.....
: 而且发现没有放抖
: 用了pentax后觉得机身放抖真是好啊~~~
: 可惜olympus的epl2 太丑了.....
: 而且m4/3的问题就是要X2
: nex镜头又不给力
: 而且查了下好像下半年出nex7...
: 纠结ing

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