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p*e
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早被小黑屋的氡辐射把皮炼厚了. Palo Alto的百年老屋据说不带geiger counter不能
轻易进去, 带了说不定早霹雳啪啦的. 住个几年, 根本不用担心辐射云什么的.
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b*k
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hahahahahaha

【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: 早被小黑屋的氡辐射把皮炼厚了. Palo Alto的百年老屋据说不带geiger counter不能
: 轻易进去, 带了说不定早霹雳啪啦的. 住个几年, 根本不用担心辐射云什么的.

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M*m
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小黑屋的氡辐射是怎么回事?
zKss?

【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: 早被小黑屋的氡辐射把皮炼厚了. Palo Alto的百年老屋据说不带geiger counter不能
: 轻易进去, 带了说不定早霹雳啪啦的. 住个几年, 根本不用担心辐射云什么的.

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l*O
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Radon has nothing to do with old houses or new houses. California Radon
level, in general is very low. And most of the houses in California don't
have basements, which is good. Also California is very dry and this brings
down Radon level too. If you have a Radon detector, you will know. The
normal no risk level is around 1.3. Level of single digit that is higher
than 1.3 presents risk equivalent to smoking 1 cigarette per day. Lots of
states in US have an average level of 3 digits. But most of places in
California have levels lower than 1.3. Also if you live on the second floor
or the third floor with window open all the time since weather is not cold,
even if the basement level is 200, the level will mostly be normal (below 1.
3) upstairs.

【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: 早被小黑屋的氡辐射把皮炼厚了. Palo Alto的百年老屋据说不带geiger counter不能
: 轻易进去, 带了说不定早霹雳啪啦的. 住个几年, 根本不用担心辐射云什么的.

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L*a
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还以为是小微呢

【在 h*******g 的大作中提到】
: DAL 35
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p*e
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of course it has to do with the age of houses. new houses are built to
minimize soil gas impact on residents. old houses were built without
any protection. the radon gas enters living space freely.
you live and breath radon.

Radon
don't
brings
higher
of
floor
cold,
(below 1.

【在 l*****O 的大作中提到】
: Radon has nothing to do with old houses or new houses. California Radon
: level, in general is very low. And most of the houses in California don't
: have basements, which is good. Also California is very dry and this brings
: down Radon level too. If you have a Radon detector, you will know. The
: normal no risk level is around 1.3. Level of single digit that is higher
: than 1.3 presents risk equivalent to smoking 1 cigarette per day. Lots of
: states in US have an average level of 3 digits. But most of places in
: California have levels lower than 1.3. Also if you live on the second floor
: or the third floor with window open all the time since weather is not cold,
: even if the basement level is 200, the level will mostly be normal (below 1.

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l*O
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别开玩笑了。
你是说新房子比较密封?再新的房子地面也有pores,就算只有两个,旧房子有两百个
,效果是一样的。新房子加Radon Mitigation System不是标准。这个Mitigation
System其实是从房子的地面打个洞,接管子通到室外,然后用pump抽气,造成soil内
是负压,所以Radon不进屋子了。那跟管子要很密封倒是。但房子无论新旧都不可能密
闭的。当然装时,最低一层要检查密闭性:big concrete cracks need to be fixed.
sump pump(s) need to be covered with glass. This is solely for increasing
the efficiency of the pump of Mitigation system. Since the motor of the pump
is very noisy, we need to use the smallest motor as possible and use fewer
number of motors (usually one motor one pump, that measn fewer pump) for
each house. 如果住在加州,窗大开是正经。基本上能保证no risk Radon level.

【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: of course it has to do with the age of houses. new houses are built to
: minimize soil gas impact on residents. old houses were built without
: any protection. the radon gas enters living space freely.
: you live and breath radon.
:
: Radon
: don't
: brings
: higher
: of

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p*e
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http://www.epa.gov/radon/pdfs/buildradonout.pdf
嘛也别说了.

increasing
the pump
fewer
for

【在 l*****O 的大作中提到】
: 别开玩笑了。
: 你是说新房子比较密封?再新的房子地面也有pores,就算只有两个,旧房子有两百个
: ,效果是一样的。新房子加Radon Mitigation System不是标准。这个Mitigation
: System其实是从房子的地面打个洞,接管子通到室外,然后用pump抽气,造成soil内
: 是负压,所以Radon不进屋子了。那跟管子要很密封倒是。但房子无论新旧都不可能密
: 闭的。当然装时,最低一层要检查密闭性:big concrete cracks need to be fixed.
: sump pump(s) need to be covered with glass. This is solely for increasing
: the efficiency of the pump of Mitigation system. Since the motor of the pump
: is very noisy, we need to use the smallest motor as possible and use fewer
: number of motors (usually one motor one pump, that measn fewer pump) for

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l*O
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读了.我也懒得和你讲了.我说的radon mitigation system 不就是epa的那个? 你到底
见过没?每个房子是否装不用进
屋都知道.弯曲的新房子 大部份没有哦。另外我家装了.也有radon detector。if the
original reading is not above 2
digit, 装了也白装。
如果排除radon mitigation system, 很多 老房子质量更好。

【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: http://www.epa.gov/radon/pdfs/buildradonout.pdf
: 嘛也别说了.
:
: increasing
: the pump
: fewer
: for

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p*e
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how do you know most new houses do not have prevention? I know the
contrary.
when we bought our first house many years ago, we watched it grow from
foundation, every day like watching the crops growing up, checked every
step according to building code.
It is standard to construct new houses with radon prevention techiques,
including venting and gas insulation. In fact, most of the new houses
sold in bay area are built with radon prevention. I asked many builders
years ago and I went to the construction site to ask them to show me the
vapor barrier layer they put on.
if you don't want to believe it, you can simply go to any of the new
development and talk to a representative from the builder, ask them what
they do with regard to radon.
no need to argue.

the

【在 l*****O 的大作中提到】
: 读了.我也懒得和你讲了.我说的radon mitigation system 不就是epa的那个? 你到底
: 见过没?每个房子是否装不用进
: 屋都知道.弯曲的新房子 大部份没有哦。另外我家装了.也有radon detector。if the
: original reading is not above 2
: digit, 装了也白装。
: 如果排除radon mitigation system, 很多 老房子质量更好。

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p*e
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old houses are full of cracks that are impossible to seal.
老房子质量更好. you dream. it is 99% wrong. Not every old house is
vintage. Most of the "old houses" built in places like Cupertino, Palo
were built for poor, blue collar workers. They were built as cookie
cutters with reduced cost. The building quality would be extremely poor
in today's standards.
There are of course few old houses with "good quality". Those were
usually designed and built by rich owners. But the "good quality" is
limited to good material and good design. There is nothing good in such
houses in terms of radiation prevention or earthquake resistance.

the

【在 l*****O 的大作中提到】
: 读了.我也懒得和你讲了.我说的radon mitigation system 不就是epa的那个? 你到底
: 见过没?每个房子是否装不用进
: 屋都知道.弯曲的新房子 大部份没有哦。另外我家装了.也有radon detector。if the
: original reading is not above 2
: digit, 装了也白装。
: 如果排除radon mitigation system, 很多 老房子质量更好。

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l*e
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