D*X
2 楼
NEW in BOX Canon 5D mk2 + 24-105/4L kit, NO UPC
$2800 + YL
body only: $2000 + YL
lens only: $850 + YL
BOA or money order
I will take personal check if ID I know well
PM if interested
$2800 + YL
body only: $2000 + YL
lens only: $850 + YL
BOA or money order
I will take personal check if ID I know well
PM if interested
z*g
3 楼
哈哈什么?我有SLV的CALL,快死了知道吗?不过前段时间赚了不少,死就死了吧。
h*e
4 楼
现在paypal echeck charge 3%了……
C*a
5 楼
It seems SLV drops 50c in a second just now. See whether bulls can regain
43.
43.
D*X
10 楼
thanks guys, changed
b*6
12 楼
hot, gogogo
C*a
17 楼
All these bullshit are computer driven. SLV is already taken over by
computer, I think.
computer, I think.
D*X
20 楼
UPdate: body is pending now
lens still for sale
lens still for sale
s*6
24 楼
有包子?排上先。
r*m
51 楼
DT应该全是junk volumn。只有买了准备那一段时间的,才有传统意义上的TA效果。
u*e
63 楼
commodity都是博傻, 负和游戏
a*e
72 楼
for managed money bucket,
the long/short/spread open interest ends in 26th was
30,538 7,295 13,098
compared with one week ago,
long decreased 2,753
short increased 845
overall, I think hedge funds are still net long heavily.
There are ppl saying we will have mass stop buy momentum on $50
the long/short/spread open interest ends in 26th was
30,538 7,295 13,098
compared with one week ago,
long decreased 2,753
short increased 845
overall, I think hedge funds are still net long heavily.
There are ppl saying we will have mass stop buy momentum on $50
u*e
74 楼
Don't forget the "Contango"
And remember as a commodity contract holder, you have to pay for the storage
and all other related expense for it
Non-dividend stocks usually will be supported by the earning growth except
the penny stocks. And most of all, there are always a group of people in
the company working hard trying to make money for stock holders if the
company is a good company.
For commodity, it is just a game between buyer and seller. Nothing else.
Above all, commodity is only a way of carry the wealth, not a way of
creating wealth.
【在 a*****e 的大作中提到】
: far from it.
: commodities has less transaction cost compared with most non-dividend
: stocks.
And remember as a commodity contract holder, you have to pay for the storage
and all other related expense for it
Non-dividend stocks usually will be supported by the earning growth except
the penny stocks. And most of all, there are always a group of people in
the company working hard trying to make money for stock holders if the
company is a good company.
For commodity, it is just a game between buyer and seller. Nothing else.
Above all, commodity is only a way of carry the wealth, not a way of
creating wealth.
【在 a*****e 的大作中提到】
: far from it.
: commodities has less transaction cost compared with most non-dividend
: stocks.
a*e
75 楼
SEC claims that one trade with 15000 ES
triggered a lot of stop market order.
The chance to trigger flash crash by stop limit order is lower.
Normally, I guess most of the programs will use stop limit order
but set the limit order by the short-term volatility it forecasts.
This scenarios could trigger flash crash does not prove it did it.
Even theoretically it's crystally clear.
【在 C****a 的大作中提到】
:
: I guess bears will push it to at least 42 level, which is the low last night
: .
triggered a lot of stop market order.
The chance to trigger flash crash by stop limit order is lower.
Normally, I guess most of the programs will use stop limit order
but set the limit order by the short-term volatility it forecasts.
This scenarios could trigger flash crash does not prove it did it.
Even theoretically it's crystally clear.
【在 C****a 的大作中提到】
:
: I guess bears will push it to at least 42 level, which is the low last night
: .
a*e
76 楼
Of course, I did not deny derivatives are negative sum game.
it's common sense.
I was comparing the transaction cost.
You are describing some philosophy which I don't share.
most ppl claimed to be stock investors are no more than long term speculators.
I agree, speculations in commodities often manipulate the price and often bring the cost of productions higher.
They have no intention to lower/take the risk of producers/consumers but just profit-seeker
storage
【在 u********e 的大作中提到】
: Don't forget the "Contango"
: And remember as a commodity contract holder, you have to pay for the storage
: and all other related expense for it
: Non-dividend stocks usually will be supported by the earning growth except
: the penny stocks. And most of all, there are always a group of people in
: the company working hard trying to make money for stock holders if the
: company is a good company.
: For commodity, it is just a game between buyer and seller. Nothing else.
: Above all, commodity is only a way of carry the wealth, not a way of
: creating wealth.
it's common sense.
I was comparing the transaction cost.
You are describing some philosophy which I don't share.
most ppl claimed to be stock investors are no more than long term speculators.
I agree, speculations in commodities often manipulate the price and often bring the cost of productions higher.
They have no intention to lower/take the risk of producers/consumers but just profit-seeker
storage
【在 u********e 的大作中提到】
: Don't forget the "Contango"
: And remember as a commodity contract holder, you have to pay for the storage
: and all other related expense for it
: Non-dividend stocks usually will be supported by the earning growth except
: the penny stocks. And most of all, there are always a group of people in
: the company working hard trying to make money for stock holders if the
: company is a good company.
: For commodity, it is just a game between buyer and seller. Nothing else.
: Above all, commodity is only a way of carry the wealth, not a way of
: creating wealth.
a*e
77 楼
storage
what stupid speculators will hold the contract till settlement. even that,
their are a lot cash settlement product too.
【在 u********e 的大作中提到】
: Don't forget the "Contango"
: And remember as a commodity contract holder, you have to pay for the storage
: and all other related expense for it
: Non-dividend stocks usually will be supported by the earning growth except
: the penny stocks. And most of all, there are always a group of people in
: the company working hard trying to make money for stock holders if the
: company is a good company.
: For commodity, it is just a game between buyer and seller. Nothing else.
: Above all, commodity is only a way of carry the wealth, not a way of
: creating wealth.
u*e
78 楼
It does not matter, the cost will be shared by all the contract holders.
The longer you hold it, the higher cost you have to bear.
The cash settlement does not relief the cost burden either if you are
trading the commodity derivatives.
【在 a*****e 的大作中提到】
:
: storage
: what stupid speculators will hold the contract till settlement. even that,
: their are a lot cash settlement product too.
u*e
80 楼
Well said. To bet on the commodity derivative is a pure speculation on
a negative sum game.
It is not a good game for normal investors. There is better way to bet
on the commodity if you do believe the commodity price will rise. For
example, you can buy "GOLD" (Randgold Resources Ltd) if you want to bet
that the gold price will continue to rise.
Anyway, derivative has its own merits to attract speculators since it
usually will provide very high leverage than other equities.
speculators.
often bring the cost of productions higher.
but just profit-seeker
【在 a*****e 的大作中提到】
: Of course, I did not deny derivatives are negative sum game.
: it's common sense.
: I was comparing the transaction cost.
: You are describing some philosophy which I don't share.
: most ppl claimed to be stock investors are no more than long term speculators.
: I agree, speculations in commodities often manipulate the price and often bring the cost of productions higher.
: They have no intention to lower/take the risk of producers/consumers but just profit-seeker
:
: storage
a negative sum game.
It is not a good game for normal investors. There is better way to bet
on the commodity if you do believe the commodity price will rise. For
example, you can buy "GOLD" (Randgold Resources Ltd) if you want to bet
that the gold price will continue to rise.
Anyway, derivative has its own merits to attract speculators since it
usually will provide very high leverage than other equities.
speculators.
often bring the cost of productions higher.
but just profit-seeker
【在 a*****e 的大作中提到】
: Of course, I did not deny derivatives are negative sum game.
: it's common sense.
: I was comparing the transaction cost.
: You are describing some philosophy which I don't share.
: most ppl claimed to be stock investors are no more than long term speculators.
: I agree, speculations in commodities often manipulate the price and often bring the cost of productions higher.
: They have no intention to lower/take the risk of producers/consumers but just profit-seeker
:
: storage
a*e
83 楼
You are simply wrong about it.
The cost is taken by bull or bear, never both. depends on it
Backswam or contango, and it will be offset when you
Liquid your position. No matter it's cost or premium.
Commodities are short term for speculators in nature.
You won't feel the cost or premium as it's smaller than spread
Within your holding period.
Of course, it's a different story for commercials.
Actually, speculators with big capital sometimes are
Willing to take the delivery with huge storage cost as
Long as they thought they can manipulate demand and
Supply.
There are such examples.
【在 u********e 的大作中提到】
: Well said. To bet on the commodity derivative is a pure speculation on
: a negative sum game.
: It is not a good game for normal investors. There is better way to bet
: on the commodity if you do believe the commodity price will rise. For
: example, you can buy "GOLD" (Randgold Resources Ltd) if you want to bet
: that the gold price will continue to rise.
: Anyway, derivative has its own merits to attract speculators since it
: usually will provide very high leverage than other equities.
:
: speculators.
The cost is taken by bull or bear, never both. depends on it
Backswam or contango, and it will be offset when you
Liquid your position. No matter it's cost or premium.
Commodities are short term for speculators in nature.
You won't feel the cost or premium as it's smaller than spread
Within your holding period.
Of course, it's a different story for commercials.
Actually, speculators with big capital sometimes are
Willing to take the delivery with huge storage cost as
Long as they thought they can manipulate demand and
Supply.
There are such examples.
【在 u********e 的大作中提到】
: Well said. To bet on the commodity derivative is a pure speculation on
: a negative sum game.
: It is not a good game for normal investors. There is better way to bet
: on the commodity if you do believe the commodity price will rise. For
: example, you can buy "GOLD" (Randgold Resources Ltd) if you want to bet
: that the gold price will continue to rise.
: Anyway, derivative has its own merits to attract speculators since it
: usually will provide very high leverage than other equities.
:
: speculators.
C*a
84 楼
again.
C*a
86 楼
Now it is testing the Sunday night low.
C*a
90 楼
这个breakdown很没劲,看来还要纠结一下。
C*a
95 楼
I was out. reward/risk not attractive anymore ...
C*a
96 楼
short term pattern is kinda of bullish. reverse H&S, plus a cut-and-handle
... may test 43, I guess ...
... may test 43, I guess ...
v*h
102 楼
31-48,做他几回。
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