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H*e2011-12-23 08:12

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应该明天开盘就卖吗? 明天开盘马上跑calls, puts 留着看看有没有反弹? Below is
buying my records in case it helps you guys/girls.
7/19/2011, market price around $376.xx.
AAPL 370.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $11.05 - Total:$1,113.25
AAPL 380.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $12.70 - Total:$1,278.25
AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $8.90 - Total: $898.25
AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $10.50 - Total:$1,058.25

d*02011-12-23 08:12

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【以下文字转载自 Joke 讨论区】
发信人: justmylife (justmylife), 信区: Joke
标题: 从网费上看，我特么在的好像不是美国啊
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Dec 23 00:59:05 2011, 美东)
网易新闻什么来源

r*m2011-12-23 08:12

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你这个买法， AAPL要是猪在375，就送钱了。
明天aaple只要开在390以上，你就不会亏了吧？
我这样的小农肯定是那个赚钱卖哪个，亏的就捂捂看。不过option过期太快，你别听我
的。问问土豆姐，村长大叔。

b*62011-12-23 08:12

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网易新闻的来源全部是编辑拍脑袋
想搞啥结论就能拍出啥数据

H*e2011-12-23 08:12

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Thanks.
土豆姐? 村长大叔?

【在 r*m 的大作中提到】

: 你这个买法， AAPL要是猪在375，就送钱了。
: 明天aaple只要开在390以上，你就不会亏了吧？
: 我这样的小农肯定是那个赚钱卖哪个，亏的就捂捂看。不过option过期太快，你别听我
: 的。问问土豆姐，村长大叔。

x*k2011-12-23 08:12

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我怎么觉得中美应改掉个个啊

【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】

: 【以下文字转载自 Joke 讨论区】
: 发信人: justmylife (justmylife), 信区: Joke
: 标题: 从网费上看，我特么在的好像不是美国啊
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Dec 23 00:59:05 2011, 美东)
: 网易新闻什么来源

G*s2011-12-23 08:12

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卖一个call回本,其它的让它奔一奔,AAPL如果明天不疲软的话这个星期能上420, 短期到450的可能也不小

【在 H******e 的大作中提到】

: 应该明天开盘就卖吗? 明天开盘马上跑calls, puts 留着看看有没有反弹? Below is
: buying my records in case it helps you guys/girls.
: 7/19/2011, market price around $376.xx.
: AAPL 370.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $11.05 - Total:$1,113.25
: AAPL 380.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $12.70 - Total:$1,278.25
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $8.90 - Total: $898.25
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $10.50 - Total:$1,058.25

f*y2011-12-23 08:12

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这个看你怎么选benchmark。
如果以fios在某些地区35M/35M的计划为benchmark，价钱一定 < $3/Mbps;
要是以DSL为benchmark，谁要是能拿到那个价谁就是天才。。。

【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】

: 【以下文字转载自 Joke 讨论区】
: 发信人: justmylife (justmylife), 信区: Joke
: 标题: 从网费上看，我特么在的好像不是美国啊
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Dec 23 00:59:05 2011, 美东)
: 网易新闻什么来源

r*m2011-12-23 08:12

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除非开盘就400以上，不然卖一个call很难回本。

期到450的可能也不小

【在 G*******s 的大作中提到】

: 卖一个call回本,其它的让它奔一奔,AAPL如果明天不疲软的话这个星期能上420, 短期到450的可能也不小

g*r2011-12-23 08:12

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我一月45，才稳定在2M。NND跑到图外面去了。

a*n2011-12-23 08:12

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我也是两个CALL两个PUT，8月的
看看明天大涨的话先赶紧割掉PUT，留着CALL接着涨？

【在 H******e 的大作中提到】

: 应该明天开盘就卖吗? 明天开盘马上跑calls, puts 留着看看有没有反弹? Below is
: buying my records in case it helps you guys/girls.
: 7/19/2011, market price around $376.xx.
: AAPL 370.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $11.05 - Total:$1,113.25
: AAPL 380.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $12.70 - Total:$1,278.25
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $8.90 - Total: $898.25
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $10.50 - Total:$1,058.25

d*u2011-12-23 08:12

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网易新闻看看网友评论娱乐一下就好，其他的就没啥意思了

d*12011-12-23 08:12

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这种睹法不行

【在 H******e 的大作中提到】

: 应该明天开盘就卖吗? 明天开盘马上跑calls, puts 留着看看有没有反弹? Below is
: buying my records in case it helps you guys/girls.
: 7/19/2011, market price around $376.xx.
: AAPL 370.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $11.05 - Total:$1,113.25
: AAPL 380.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $12.70 - Total:$1,278.25
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $8.90 - Total: $898.25
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $10.50 - Total:$1,058.25

h*k2011-12-23 08:12

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还好啦，我们家的cable 20M 常年34.99
就是每日一断

b*u2011-12-23 08:12

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你这是什么spread?行为艺术？

d*u2011-12-23 08:12

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没准是看视频啥的下载太多，路由受不了了……
我的就是，偶尔下载过多，网就巨慢或者断，重启路由就恢复正常

【在 h*******k 的大作中提到】

: 还好啦，我们家的cable 20M 常年34.99
: 就是每日一断

H*e2011-12-23 08:12

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Why? I made money through this way in goog calls/puts.
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/Stock/33658285.html
请指点?

【在 d*****1 的大作中提到】

:
: 这种睹法不行

y*z2011-12-23 08:12

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hu you. $48/6mbps = $8/mbps.

H*e2011-12-23 08:12

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Not 行为艺术 at all. I think I learned to play options in this way here or
some other web sites. To buy calls/puts at the same time, no matter the
price goes up or down, as if there is a big percentage price change, I will
make money. And stock's price is expected to have bigger price change around
ER time.
I buy call/put at $180/$170, $185/$165, in order to watch different results
with different buying prices.
请指点?

【在 b******u 的大作中提到】

: 你这是什么spread?行为艺术？

d*u2011-12-23 08:12

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我的是$24.99/1mbps……

【在 y****z 的大作中提到】

: hu you. $48/6mbps = $8/mbps.

b*u2011-12-23 08:12

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你为何不把call和put都坐在on the money
岂不是风险最小？
这样你也不用考虑vertical skew了

will
around
results

【在 H******e 的大作中提到】

: Not 行为艺术 at all. I think I learned to play options in this way here or
: some other web sites. To buy calls/puts at the same time, no matter the
: price goes up or down, as if there is a big percentage price change, I will
: make money. And stock's price is expected to have bigger price change around
: ER time.
: I buy call/put at $180/$170, $185/$165, in order to watch different results
: with different buying prices.
: 请指点?

r*l2011-12-23 08:12

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$60/15M = $4/M. Look good to me.

【在 y****z 的大作中提到】

: hu you. $48/6mbps = $8/mbps.

H*e2011-12-23 08:12

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yeah, should narrow down the call/put scope, "on the money" might be a
better choice though they are more expensive, less lost when the stock price
does not change much.

【在 b******u 的大作中提到】

: 你为何不把call和put都坐在on the money
: 岂不是风险最小？
: 这样你也不用考虑vertical skew了
:
: will
: around
: results

r*j2011-12-23 08:12

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我uverse 24，99是12M，不知道为啥现在我有25M

a*n2011-12-23 08:12

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你的call put卖了吗？

price

【在 H******e 的大作中提到】

: yeah, should narrow down the call/put scope, "on the money" might be a
: better choice though they are more expensive, less lost when the stock price
: does not change much.

k*n2011-12-23 08:12

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just have mine installed yesterday
$22 for 3Mb/month

【在 d*********u 的大作中提到】

: 我的是$24.99/1mbps……

H*e2011-12-23 08:12

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7/20/2011, market price around $395
AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Sold to Close 1c @ $13.76 - Total: $1,367.72
AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Sold to Close 1c @ $1.87 - Total: $178.74
I still keep 380/370 call/put. :)

【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】

: 你的call put卖了吗？
:
: price

l*b2011-12-23 08:12

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其实还好啦
我每个月29.99，标称12M，实测不止

【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】

: 【以下文字转载自 Joke 讨论区】
: 发信人: justmylife (justmylife), 信区: Joke
: 标题: 从网费上看，我特么在的好像不是美国啊
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Dec 23 00:59:05 2011, 美东)
: 网易新闻什么来源

p*a2011-12-23 08:12

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Did you make money or lose moneny?

【在 H******e 的大作中提到】

: 7/20/2011, market price around $395
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Sold to Close 1c @ $13.76 - Total: $1,367.72
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Sold to Close 1c @ $1.87 - Total: $178.74
: I still keep 380/370 call/put. :)

H*e2011-12-23 08:12

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full records for $385/$365 call/put, for your reference:
7/19/2011, market price around $376.xx.
AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $8.90 - Total: $898.25
AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $10.50 - Total:$1,058.25
7/20/2011, market price around $395
AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Sold to Close 1c @ $13.76 - Total: $1,367.72
AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Sold to Close 1c @ $1.87 - Total: $178.74
total cost: $1956.50, exclude transaction fee: $1940
total income: $1546.46
exclude transaction fee: $1563
AAPL: around $376 --> around $395, +$19, +5.05%
including transaction fees: -$410.04, -21%
excluding transaction fees: -$377, -19.43%
Lesson I got:
1. should narrow down the scope, (+- 2% should be more than enough) when
the price does not expect to change much.
2. The next day after ER, when the market opens, if I am not sure how
the price will continually go, sell the option made money as soon as
possible, lock the profit.

c*o2011-12-23 08:12

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straggle is hard to make money........ah..

exclude

【在 H******e 的大作中提到】

: full records for $385/$365 call/put, for your reference:
: 7/19/2011, market price around $376.xx.
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $8.90 - Total: $898.25
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $10.50 - Total:$1,058.25
: 7/20/2011, market price around $395
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Sold to Close 1c @ $13.76 - Total: $1,367.72
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Sold to Close 1c @ $1.87 - Total: $178.74
: total cost: $1956.50, exclude transaction fee: $1940
: total income: $1546.46
: exclude transaction fee: $1563

r*o2011-12-23 08:12

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VOL crash..
before ER vol is high, especially for puts, long Vega kills you

【在 H******e 的大作中提到】

: full records for $385/$365 call/put, for your reference:
: 7/19/2011, market price around $376.xx.
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $8.90 - Total: $898.25
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $10.50 - Total:$1,058.25
: 7/20/2011, market price around $395
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Sold to Close 1c @ $13.76 - Total: $1,367.72
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Sold to Close 1c @ $1.87 - Total: $178.74
: total cost: $1956.50, exclude transaction fee: $1940
: total income: $1546.46
: exclude transaction fee: $1563

z*e2011-12-23 08:12

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one more experience, still cong!

s*s2011-12-23 08:12

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Thanks a lot for sharing the lessons.
Good luck.

【在 H******e 的大作中提到】

: full records for $385/$365 call/put, for your reference:
: 7/19/2011, market price around $376.xx.
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $8.90 - Total: $898.25
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $10.50 - Total:$1,058.25
: 7/20/2011, market price around $395
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Sold to Close 1c @ $13.76 - Total: $1,367.72
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Sold to Close 1c @ $1.87 - Total: $178.74
: total cost: $1956.50, exclude transaction fee: $1940
: total income: $1546.46
: exclude transaction fee: $1563

r*l2011-12-23 08:12

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Buying before ER and selling after ER, unless the price can jump/dive more
than 5%, you won't gain from your call/put straddle overall. If move only by
1~2%, both call and put will lose money. Using smaller gap between put and
call strikes will reduce the loss a little (if there is a loss), but it will
also reduce your gain (if there is a gain)
Last week, Goog moved more than 10%, that brings big profit. AAPL only moved
2~5%, so lose money.
Selling them ASAP after market open, I don't know about this.... Yesterday,
LZ sold WYNN call/put 30 second after market open and made money, but if
orders failed, maybe just 15s later, WYNN call/put started losing money. I
really don't think, for 99.9 Sanhu, any trading should rely on this type of
"skill" or "luck"....

【在 H******e 的大作中提到】

: full records for $385/$365 call/put, for your reference:
: 7/19/2011, market price around $376.xx.
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Bought to Open 1c @ $8.90 - Total: $898.25
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Bought to Open 1c @ $10.50 - Total:$1,058.25
: 7/20/2011, market price around $395
: AAPL 385.00 AUG 11 C, Sold to Close 1c @ $13.76 - Total: $1,367.72
: AAPL 365.00 AUG 11 P, Sold to Close 1c @ $1.87 - Total: $178.74
: total cost: $1956.50, exclude transaction fee: $1940
: total income: $1546.46
: exclude transaction fee: $1563