p*c
2 楼
为什么d600掉渣都这么多人想买？
【在 r*****h 的大作中提到】
: D7000快门数还不到9000。平时拍拍娃，旅游，家庭照等。
【在 r*****h 的大作中提到】
: D7000快门数还不到9000。平时拍拍娃，旅游，家庭照等。
s*n
3 楼
只要够便宜。。。
【在 p*****c 的大作中提到】
: 为什么d600掉渣都这么多人想买？
【在 p*****c 的大作中提到】
: 为什么d600掉渣都这么多人想买？
J*o
4 楼
升
r*h
5 楼
纠结全副呗。
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 只要够便宜。。。
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 只要够便宜。。。
r*h
6 楼
理由？
【在 J********o 的大作中提到】
: 升
【在 J********o 的大作中提到】
: 升
p*c
7 楼
跟6d差不多阿
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 只要够便宜。。。
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 只要够便宜。。。
s*n
8 楼
对，但考虑到漏油，应该1100左右更合理
【在 p*****c 的大作中提到】
: 跟6d差不多阿
【在 p*****c 的大作中提到】
: 跟6d差不多阿
g*g
9 楼
我从D90过来的， 觉得值得。我买的ReFUrbished。
现在应该差不多1200左右。
掉渣漏油，实际使用中不是大问题， so far not a big problem at all.
【在 r*****h 的大作中提到】
: 理由？
现在应该差不多1200左右。
掉渣漏油，实际使用中不是大问题， so far not a big problem at all.
【在 r*****h 的大作中提到】
: 理由？
c*e
10 楼
好奇问一下，楼上批d600的，亲自用过吗？
c*e
11 楼
Three major improvements of the D600 over D7k: 1) shallow DOF; 2) HIGH iso;
3) AF.
If those things do not matter to you, then stick to what you have.
【在 r*****h 的大作中提到】
: D7000快门数还不到9000。平时拍拍娃，旅游，家庭照等。
3) AF.
If those things do not matter to you, then stick to what you have.
【在 r*****h 的大作中提到】
: D7000快门数还不到9000。平时拍拍娃，旅游，家庭照等。
w*t
12 楼
D600 AF is actually worse than D7000:
1) smaller coverage area
2) even less sensitive in low light (-1ev). This means D600 CANNOT lock
focus in dim light. I have both D7000 and D600, compared them in the evening.
Canon 6D is -3ev, can lock focus in near pitch darkness, MUCH better.
;
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: Three major improvements of the D600 over D7k: 1) shallow DOF; 2) HIGH iso;
: 3) AF.
: If those things do not matter to you, then stick to what you have.
1) smaller coverage area
2) even less sensitive in low light (-1ev). This means D600 CANNOT lock
focus in dim light. I have both D7000 and D600, compared them in the evening.
Canon 6D is -3ev, can lock focus in near pitch darkness, MUCH better.
;
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: Three major improvements of the D600 over D7k: 1) shallow DOF; 2) HIGH iso;
: 3) AF.
: If those things do not matter to you, then stick to what you have.
s*n
13 楼
你这么说那我还是等6Ddeal好了
evening.
【在 w****t 的大作中提到】
: D600 AF is actually worse than D7000:
: 1) smaller coverage area
: 2) even less sensitive in low light (-1ev). This means D600 CANNOT lock
: focus in dim light. I have both D7000 and D600, compared them in the evening.
: Canon 6D is -3ev, can lock focus in near pitch darkness, MUCH better.
:
: ;
evening.
【在 w****t 的大作中提到】
: D600 AF is actually worse than D7000:
: 1) smaller coverage area
: 2) even less sensitive in low light (-1ev). This means D600 CANNOT lock
: focus in dim light. I have both D7000 and D600, compared them in the evening.
: Canon 6D is -3ev, can lock focus in near pitch darkness, MUCH better.
:
: ;
O*P
14 楼
就是全副和殘副的区别，其他基本一样。
c*e
15 楼
Since you touted the AF sensitivity I take it you do not do manual metering.
Given that, you can not just look at the AF sensitivity alone without
considering the metering limitations.
6D:
AF: -3 EV to 18EV
Center point (1) sensitive at f/5.6 or faster
Metering range: 1 EV to 20 EV
D600:
AF: -1 EV to 19EV
7 center points sensitive at f/8 or faster
33 center points sensitive at f/5.6 or faster
Metering range: 0 EV to 20EV
And between D7k and D600, while the center AF point on both is sensitive at
-1EV, the one on D600 works at f/8.
Yes it would have been nicer if the AF points are more spread out on the
D600. But that's not a deal breaker.
In my personal experience the D600 is more accurate than D7k. (not to bash
on any make or model, just pure gear talk)
evening.
【在 w****t 的大作中提到】
: D600 AF is actually worse than D7000:
: 1) smaller coverage area
: 2) even less sensitive in low light (-1ev). This means D600 CANNOT lock
: focus in dim light. I have both D7000 and D600, compared them in the evening.
: Canon 6D is -3ev, can lock focus in near pitch darkness, MUCH better.
:
: ;
Given that, you can not just look at the AF sensitivity alone without
considering the metering limitations.
6D:
AF: -3 EV to 18EV
Center point (1) sensitive at f/5.6 or faster
Metering range: 1 EV to 20 EV
D600:
AF: -1 EV to 19EV
7 center points sensitive at f/8 or faster
33 center points sensitive at f/5.6 or faster
Metering range: 0 EV to 20EV
And between D7k and D600, while the center AF point on both is sensitive at
-1EV, the one on D600 works at f/8.
Yes it would have been nicer if the AF points are more spread out on the
D600. But that's not a deal breaker.
In my personal experience the D600 is more accurate than D7k. (not to bash
on any make or model, just pure gear talk)
evening.
【在 w****t 的大作中提到】
: D600 AF is actually worse than D7000:
: 1) smaller coverage area
: 2) even less sensitive in low light (-1ev). This means D600 CANNOT lock
: focus in dim light. I have both D7000 and D600, compared them in the evening.
: Canon 6D is -3ev, can lock focus in near pitch darkness, MUCH better.
:
: ;
w*t
16 楼
Your points are valid, however, having a blurry and out of focus picture is
much worse problem than having slight metering differences. You can easily
correct the latter in post, but nothing can fix an out of focus picture. 6D'
s AF sensitivity is way ahead of D600. Low light performance is the key
distinguisher in high end models.
For me, using a full frame camera indoors and or walking around downtown
street scene in low light is important. The D600 has a great sensor, but the
AF module simply was a step backwards from any of Nikon's FF models. In
fact, the D90 can lock focus when D600 does not.
I do, prefer the D600 color rendering especially in natural sun light. At
night the color turns rather redish orange (same for 6D)
much worse problem than having slight metering differences. You can easily
correct the latter in post, but nothing can fix an out of focus picture. 6D'
s AF sensitivity is way ahead of D600. Low light performance is the key
distinguisher in high end models.
For me, using a full frame camera indoors and or walking around downtown
street scene in low light is important. The D600 has a great sensor, but the
AF module simply was a step backwards from any of Nikon's FF models. In
fact, the D90 can lock focus when D600 does not.
I do, prefer the D600 color rendering especially in natural sun light. At
night the color turns rather redish orange (same for 6D)
c*e
17 楼
You seem to be missing the point. It's not about metering difference, it's
about where the camera can meter at all under certain situations. At 0EV,
the 6D's meter basically gives up. You have to set the exposure information
manually, while for D600 this is not a problem at all. As for AF, it's a
matter of either it working or not. AF accuracy is a different topic. And I
find D600's AF to be spot on.
Another aspect of low light shooting is high iso performance. I don't need
to go into details here but there are plenty reviews out there and D600 wins
hands down.
As for your D90 vs D600 statement, could you provide some details, under
what situation, what is the subject, what lens were you using, which focus
point (center/peripheral)...I find it unfathomable that there would be a
situation when the D600 failed to lock focus while the D90 can. Maybe you
can enlighten us.
is
6D'
the
【在 w****t 的大作中提到】
: Your points are valid, however, having a blurry and out of focus picture is
: much worse problem than having slight metering differences. You can easily
: correct the latter in post, but nothing can fix an out of focus picture. 6D'
: s AF sensitivity is way ahead of D600. Low light performance is the key
: distinguisher in high end models.
: For me, using a full frame camera indoors and or walking around downtown
: street scene in low light is important. The D600 has a great sensor, but the
: AF module simply was a step backwards from any of Nikon's FF models. In
: fact, the D90 can lock focus when D600 does not.
: I do, prefer the D600 color rendering especially in natural sun light. At
about where the camera can meter at all under certain situations. At 0EV,
the 6D's meter basically gives up. You have to set the exposure information
manually, while for D600 this is not a problem at all. As for AF, it's a
matter of either it working or not. AF accuracy is a different topic. And I
find D600's AF to be spot on.
Another aspect of low light shooting is high iso performance. I don't need
to go into details here but there are plenty reviews out there and D600 wins
hands down.
As for your D90 vs D600 statement, could you provide some details, under
what situation, what is the subject, what lens were you using, which focus
point (center/peripheral)...I find it unfathomable that there would be a
situation when the D600 failed to lock focus while the D90 can. Maybe you
can enlighten us.
is
6D'
the
【在 w****t 的大作中提到】
: Your points are valid, however, having a blurry and out of focus picture is
: much worse problem than having slight metering differences. You can easily
: correct the latter in post, but nothing can fix an out of focus picture. 6D'
: s AF sensitivity is way ahead of D600. Low light performance is the key
: distinguisher in high end models.
: For me, using a full frame camera indoors and or walking around downtown
: street scene in low light is important. The D600 has a great sensor, but the
: AF module simply was a step backwards from any of Nikon's FF models. In
: fact, the D90 can lock focus when D600 does not.
: I do, prefer the D600 color rendering especially in natural sun light. At
C*d
18 楼
我想问题主要在你手上的镜头，是否想/必要升级。
i*z
19 楼
D800 or 5D3 would be a better choice depending on your lenses or budget?
Currently, D7000 is enough for your usage.?
D7k -> D600 is not a significant leap.
【在 r*****h 的大作中提到】
: D7000快门数还不到9000。平时拍拍娃，旅游，家庭照等。
Currently, D7000 is enough for your usage.?
D7k -> D600 is not a significant leap.
【在 r*****h 的大作中提到】
: D7000快门数还不到9000。平时拍拍娃，旅游，家庭照等。
k*e
20 楼
升把
我也是 d7000换到 d600
【在 r*****h 的大作中提到】
: D7000快门数还不到9000。平时拍拍娃，旅游，家庭照等。
我也是 d7000换到 d600
【在 r*****h 的大作中提到】
: D7000快门数还不到9000。平时拍拍娃，旅游，家庭照等。
e*m
21 楼
我有朋友从d300s升到了d600，sofarsogood
【在 k********e 的大作中提到】
: 升把
: 我也是 d7000换到 d600
【在 k********e 的大作中提到】
: 升把
: 我也是 d7000换到 d600
r*h
22 楼
手边有几个狗头。全幅，残幅都有。 外加18-35mm, 50mm 1.8G, 24-70mm 2.8G. 我对
摄影还处在器材阶段，对好东西总是心里痒痒。要不先整个70-200 2.8? 东西弄齐了，
大概做抚摸党的可能性更大些。
【在 i***z 的大作中提到】
: D800 or 5D3 would be a better choice depending on your lenses or budget?
: Currently, D7000 is enough for your usage.?
: D7k -> D600 is not a significant leap.
摄影还处在器材阶段，对好东西总是心里痒痒。要不先整个70-200 2.8? 东西弄齐了，
大概做抚摸党的可能性更大些。
【在 i***z 的大作中提到】
: D800 or 5D3 would be a better choice depending on your lenses or budget?
: Currently, D7000 is enough for your usage.?
: D7k -> D600 is not a significant leap.
w*t
23 楼
Metering gets you exposure, focus lock gets you sharp images (or even
shutter actuation).
In the exact same lighting condition (somewhat dim), using exact same lens (
does not matter in my tests, as it's wide open at f2.8 or faster), the D90
locks and takes a picture, while D600 hunts forever and NEVER takes the
picture or lock the focus.
I said before, the sensor on the D600 is superior, but the AF module is much
weaker in low light at locking focus (i.e. sensitivity in detecting dim
patterns) than the one in 6D. The number of focus points is just a marketing
gimmick. All that high ISO performance is pointless if in low light the
camera kept on hunting and never locks.
information
I
wins
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: You seem to be missing the point. It's not about metering difference, it's
: about where the camera can meter at all under certain situations. At 0EV,
: the 6D's meter basically gives up. You have to set the exposure information
: manually, while for D600 this is not a problem at all. As for AF, it's a
: matter of either it working or not. AF accuracy is a different topic. And I
: find D600's AF to be spot on.
: Another aspect of low light shooting is high iso performance. I don't need
: to go into details here but there are plenty reviews out there and D600 wins
: hands down.
: As for your D90 vs D600 statement, could you provide some details, under
shutter actuation).
In the exact same lighting condition (somewhat dim), using exact same lens (
does not matter in my tests, as it's wide open at f2.8 or faster), the D90
locks and takes a picture, while D600 hunts forever and NEVER takes the
picture or lock the focus.
I said before, the sensor on the D600 is superior, but the AF module is much
weaker in low light at locking focus (i.e. sensitivity in detecting dim
patterns) than the one in 6D. The number of focus points is just a marketing
gimmick. All that high ISO performance is pointless if in low light the
camera kept on hunting and never locks.
information
I
wins
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: You seem to be missing the point. It's not about metering difference, it's
: about where the camera can meter at all under certain situations. At 0EV,
: the 6D's meter basically gives up. You have to set the exposure information
: manually, while for D600 this is not a problem at all. As for AF, it's a
: matter of either it working or not. AF accuracy is a different topic. And I
: find D600's AF to be spot on.
: Another aspect of low light shooting is high iso performance. I don't need
: to go into details here but there are plenty reviews out there and D600 wins
: hands down.
: As for your D90 vs D600 statement, could you provide some details, under
u*o
24 楼
read
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/comparisons/d7000-vs-5d-mk-ii.h
【在 r*****h 的大作中提到】
: D7000快门数还不到9000。平时拍拍娃，旅游，家庭照等。
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/comparisons/d7000-vs-5d-mk-ii.h
【在 r*****h 的大作中提到】
: D7000快门数还不到9000。平时拍拍娃，旅游，家庭照等。
w*a
25 楼
最后升级了么？？
问问如果买二手D7000，多少钱比较合适啊？我想入一个。
【在 r*****h 的大作中提到】
: 手边有几个狗头。全幅，残幅都有。 外加18-35mm, 50mm 1.8G, 24-70mm 2.8G. 我对
: 摄影还处在器材阶段，对好东西总是心里痒痒。要不先整个70-200 2.8? 东西弄齐了，
: 大概做抚摸党的可能性更大些。
问问如果买二手D7000，多少钱比较合适啊？我想入一个。
【在 r*****h 的大作中提到】
: 手边有几个狗头。全幅，残幅都有。 外加18-35mm, 50mm 1.8G, 24-70mm 2.8G. 我对
: 摄影还处在器材阶段，对好东西总是心里痒痒。要不先整个70-200 2.8? 东西弄齐了，
: 大概做抚摸党的可能性更大些。
c*e
26 楼
you are still barking on the wrong tree...
(
much
marketing
【在 w****t 的大作中提到】
: Metering gets you exposure, focus lock gets you sharp images (or even
: shutter actuation).
: In the exact same lighting condition (somewhat dim), using exact same lens (
: does not matter in my tests, as it's wide open at f2.8 or faster), the D90
: locks and takes a picture, while D600 hunts forever and NEVER takes the
: picture or lock the focus.
: I said before, the sensor on the D600 is superior, but the AF module is much
: weaker in low light at locking focus (i.e. sensitivity in detecting dim
: patterns) than the one in 6D. The number of focus points is just a marketing
: gimmick. All that high ISO performance is pointless if in low light the
(
much
marketing
【在 w****t 的大作中提到】
: Metering gets you exposure, focus lock gets you sharp images (or even
: shutter actuation).
: In the exact same lighting condition (somewhat dim), using exact same lens (
: does not matter in my tests, as it's wide open at f2.8 or faster), the D90
: locks and takes a picture, while D600 hunts forever and NEVER takes the
: picture or lock the focus.
: I said before, the sensor on the D600 is superior, but the AF module is much
: weaker in low light at locking focus (i.e. sensitivity in detecting dim
: patterns) than the one in 6D. The number of focus points is just a marketing
: gimmick. All that high ISO performance is pointless if in low light the
a*e
27 楼
(
much
marketing
f8nd it hard to believe a ff body has worse af module...
【在 w****t 的大作中提到】
: Metering gets you exposure, focus lock gets you sharp images (or even
: shutter actuation).
: In the exact same lighting condition (somewhat dim), using exact same lens (
: does not matter in my tests, as it's wide open at f2.8 or faster), the D90
: locks and takes a picture, while D600 hunts forever and NEVER takes the
: picture or lock the focus.
: I said before, the sensor on the D600 is superior, but the AF module is much
: weaker in low light at locking focus (i.e. sensitivity in detecting dim
: patterns) than the one in 6D. The number of focus points is just a marketing
: gimmick. All that high ISO performance is pointless if in low light the
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