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Stop Romanticizing About The Good Old Film Days – They Weren’t That Good
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J*o
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The other day we posted about a nifty plug-in from Digital Film Tools that
emulates film. The reaction was amusing. All 12 of the remaining film
shooters in our audience felt the need to subject me to the appropriate
amount of faux outrage. Their responses were predictable and I think come
from the same general set of misconceptions.
If you’re young, and were born into the age of computers, you may tend to
romanticize about the good old days you never experienced. I’ve shot more
film than most of you. Digital only became available in the last half of my
career and I spent more time shooting film than I have yet shooting digital.
I was there. I did it every day. I lived it. It wasn’t that great.
Those of you who are of the religion of low – light would have hated it.
Tri-X had – (insert Jaws music here) GRAIN! You would equate that to noise
and you would hate it. But you would get it at ISO 400 not ISO 25,600 like
you do now. “Low-light performance” wasn’t a phrase I ever heard uttered
by anyone back in the day.
There was no Photoshop. No HDR. No stitched panoramas. And if something went
wrong you were stuck. Retouchers were very limited in what they could do.
They were few, expensive and slow. Negative retouchers were even more
difficult to find. Essentially – you had to get it perfect in the camera.
You had to make compromises.
Film was expensive, and processing more so. The chemicals used in the
process were so dangerous that the EPA regulated them. They were officially
declared bio-hazards. The heavy metals involved are still doing damage to
our ecosystem.
It was hard to make very large prints from film. If you shot for publication
you had to use very expensive drum scanners that weren’t all that good.
I could go on – but the fact is, it wasn’t all that much fun. And just
because it’s hard to do – doesn’t make the result any better. Nobody
cares. Seriously. Your photos aren’t better because you worked harder to
make them. They are still just your photos.
Now I know there are a few beanie-wearing “ARTISTES” out there who say
that’s the way it should be. To them the process is more important than the
outcome. They have a right to their opinion. I have a right to mine too.
And I try my best to get it right in the camera but sh*t happens. And when
it does I am grateful for the new digital tools that can fix it. If you’re
one of those hung up on the process – then you are probably not making
great images anyway.
If I’m lucky enough that 100 years from now, my images are still in
circulation, and people are still talking about them, nobody will look at my
work – either digital or film – and say “I wonder if that was Tri-X?”
It’s silly.
The image is what matters. Period. How you got it is only important to you
and those in the camera club you are trying to impress.
Shooting film doesn’t make you an artist. Neither does starving, wearing a
beanie and a scarf for that matter. Having vision, heart, dedication to
craft, earned and learned skill, a genuine story to tell, empathy and
passion for your subject, etc., THOSE things make you an artist. The process
? It’s just like the hammer to the nail. The sooner you get that, the
sooner you move toward being great.
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a*l
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"it wasn’t all that much fun"
it's not a fact, rather his subjective opinion.
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w*7
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文青是一种气质
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p*e
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是一种追求

【在 w**7 的大作中提到】
: 文青是一种气质
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J*o
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他可能想给年轻人打个预防针吧, 而且自己拍了半辈子可能觉得无聊了
不过后来总结说得蛮好的, 也把现实摆出来了, 让准备尝试胶片的人群有心理准备

【在 a********l 的大作中提到】
: "it wasn’t all that much fun"
: it's not a fact, rather his subjective opinion.

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a*l
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他,是谁?

【在 J********o 的大作中提到】
: 他可能想给年轻人打个预防针吧, 而且自己拍了半辈子可能觉得无聊了
: 不过后来总结说得蛮好的, 也把现实摆出来了, 让准备尝试胶片的人群有心理准备

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s*n
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看了前半段就觉得没有看的必要了
胶片的劣势很明显,谁都知道。看想干嘛了。要赚钱的话我也不会考虑胶片。
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x*y
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A cheap film body + a decent 50mm lens + 500 ft of film(and chemicals needed
) is lot cheaper than a digital full frame equivalent. And yes, after that
500ft and all those manually exposed and focused shots, I can almost
guarantee you will become a better shooter than if you started with a FF
digital body.
That said, if you want to spend minimal amount of work to get better
pictures as quick as possible, just go digital.

my
digital.

【在 J********o 的大作中提到】
: The other day we posted about a nifty plug-in from Digital Film Tools that
: emulates film. The reaction was amusing. All 12 of the remaining film
: shooters in our audience felt the need to subject me to the appropriate
: amount of faux outrage. Their responses were predictable and I think come
: from the same general set of misconceptions.
: If you’re young, and were born into the age of computers, you may tend to
: romanticize about the good old days you never experienced. I’ve shot more
: film than most of you. Digital only became available in the last half of my
: career and I spent more time shooting film than I have yet shooting digital.
: I was there. I did it every day. I lived it. It wasn’t that great.

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G*g
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文青装B神马的咱就不说了,胶片至少不环保。塑料片子天然无法降解,显影液定影液
有化学毒性和重金属危害。店里处理,有EPA的制约,至少还能回收集中处理。文青们
搁家里洗片,废液基本就下水道处理了。这个可能是你的乐趣,不过记得是以牺牲环境
为代价的。
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J*o
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这么说也是片面的了
数码机身里那些玩意儿更没法降解了, 而且一台数码机也就用个3,5年

【在 G*******g 的大作中提到】
: 文青装B神马的咱就不说了,胶片至少不环保。塑料片子天然无法降解,显影液定影液
: 有化学毒性和重金属危害。店里处理,有EPA的制约,至少还能回收集中处理。文青们
: 搁家里洗片,废液基本就下水道处理了。这个可能是你的乐趣,不过记得是以牺牲环境
: 为代价的。

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G*g
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你的相机3-5年以后扔下水道,还是当垃圾回填。

【在 J********o 的大作中提到】
: 这么说也是片面的了
: 数码机身里那些玩意儿更没法降解了, 而且一台数码机也就用个3,5年

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m*g
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有很多胶片拍出来看起来还行的,换个普通的数码相机来拍,就是渣。。。
所以任何时候,用什么器材是其次的,有好的想法,视角,构图,懂得用光影才是最重
要的
数码都拍不好的,就别指望胶片能出好片了
以上献给paddy
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J*o
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自己倒下水道的还是少, 数码的东西被回收了, 塑料难降解的依然难降解, 重金属依然
重金属
每年那么多用掉的电池, blabla, 人类现阶段不过是从一种污染换到另一种污染, 好像
还没有什么纯无公害的垃圾处理吧

【在 G*******g 的大作中提到】
: 你的相机3-5年以后扔下水道,还是当垃圾回填。
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w*g
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貌似画画可以基本无污染, 注意不要用颜料
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x*y
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黑白胶片的显影液挺安全的。对下下水道基本没什么影响。至于胶片回收嘛,我扫完以
后都留着negatives.

【在 G*******g 的大作中提到】
: 文青装B神马的咱就不说了,胶片至少不环保。塑料片子天然无法降解,显影液定影液
: 有化学毒性和重金属危害。店里处理,有EPA的制约,至少还能回收集中处理。文青们
: 搁家里洗片,废液基本就下水道处理了。这个可能是你的乐趣,不过记得是以牺牲环境
: 为代价的。

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G*g
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你不是用T2i吗,啥时候开始玩胶片了?

【在 x****y 的大作中提到】
: 黑白胶片的显影液挺安全的。对下下水道基本没什么影响。至于胶片回收嘛,我扫完以
: 后都留着negatives.

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x*y
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后来就进了个hexar af和contax g1.

【在 G*******g 的大作中提到】
: 你不是用T2i吗,啥时候开始玩胶片了?
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b*g
18
亮点总在最后。。。。

【在 m*********g 的大作中提到】
: 有很多胶片拍出来看起来还行的,换个普通的数码相机来拍,就是渣。。。
: 所以任何时候,用什么器材是其次的,有好的想法,视角,构图,懂得用光影才是最重
: 要的
: 数码都拍不好的,就别指望胶片能出好片了
: 以上献给paddy

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a*l
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i just knew you've been lurking here to jump out at this very point. good
timing.

【在 G*******g 的大作中提到】
: 文青装B神马的咱就不说了,胶片至少不环保。塑料片子天然无法降解,显影液定影液
: 有化学毒性和重金属危害。店里处理,有EPA的制约,至少还能回收集中处理。文青们
: 搁家里洗片,废液基本就下水道处理了。这个可能是你的乐趣,不过记得是以牺牲环境
: 为代价的。

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