h*y
2 楼
一直是用iPhone拍照的，但是最近有了娃后想买个相机给娃拍拍，出去玩也能顺带拍拍
。不懂相机，请问版上大牛推荐。预算1k刀左右。看上了sony 的a6000，或者是富士的
X70，不知道合不合适？
。不懂相机，请问版上大牛推荐。预算1k刀左右。看上了sony 的a6000，或者是富士的
X70，不知道合不合适？
b*9
3 楼
你少打了个0，兄弟。
b*s
4 楼
买个A6300套机就好
bestbuy有openbox的$1012
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-alpha-a6300-mirrorless-camera-with-e-pz-16-50-mm-f3-5-5-6-oss-lens/4944703.p?id=bb4944703&skuId=4944703#tab=buyingOptions?bof=openbox
【在 h***y 的大作中提到】
: 一直是用iPhone拍照的，但是最近有了娃后想买个相机给娃拍拍，出去玩也能顺带拍拍
: 。不懂相机，请问版上大牛推荐。预算1k刀左右。看上了sony 的a6000，或者是富士的
: X70，不知道合不合适？
bestbuy有openbox的$1012
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-alpha-a6300-mirrorless-camera-with-e-pz-16-50-mm-f3-5-5-6-oss-lens/4944703.p?id=bb4944703&skuId=4944703#tab=buyingOptions?bof=openbox
【在 h***y 的大作中提到】
: 一直是用iPhone拍照的，但是最近有了娃后想买个相机给娃拍拍，出去玩也能顺带拍拍
: 。不懂相机，请问版上大牛推荐。预算1k刀左右。看上了sony 的a6000，或者是富士的
: X70，不知道合不合适？
S*d
5 楼
太后口活好
e*n
6 楼
gx85套机. 再陪个42.5f1.7.
特点是性价比高, 4k+5轴防抖, 业界独一份. 对焦超快, 暗光对焦能力超强, 业界第一
. 而且有触摸屏, 指哪打哪. 拍娃最合适了.
m43镜头群种类多, 素质好. gx85陪的12-32套头素质就非常好, 比S+的16-50强得多.(
那个16-50光学打分才1.5星. 很烂) m43还有神饼20f1.7之类的好头, 数不过来...
S+基本放弃E口APSC线了. 不会再有新镜头, 机身两年才出了一台, 属于半死状态. 现
有镜头数量少,素质普遍差. 你去photozone.de看review就知道了
【在 h***y 的大作中提到】
: 一直是用iPhone拍照的，但是最近有了娃后想买个相机给娃拍拍，出去玩也能顺带拍拍
: 。不懂相机，请问版上大牛推荐。预算1k刀左右。看上了sony 的a6000，或者是富士的
: X70，不知道合不合适？
特点是性价比高, 4k+5轴防抖, 业界独一份. 对焦超快, 暗光对焦能力超强, 业界第一
. 而且有触摸屏, 指哪打哪. 拍娃最合适了.
m43镜头群种类多, 素质好. gx85陪的12-32套头素质就非常好, 比S+的16-50强得多.(
那个16-50光学打分才1.5星. 很烂) m43还有神饼20f1.7之类的好头, 数不过来...
S+基本放弃E口APSC线了. 不会再有新镜头, 机身两年才出了一台, 属于半死状态. 现
有镜头数量少,素质普遍差. 你去photozone.de看review就知道了
【在 h***y 的大作中提到】
: 一直是用iPhone拍照的，但是最近有了娃后想买个相机给娃拍拍，出去玩也能顺带拍拍
: 。不懂相机，请问版上大牛推荐。预算1k刀左右。看上了sony 的a6000，或者是富士的
: X70，不知道合不合适？
d*1
7 楼
她的broker这样会不会被她搞破产？
【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 太拉风了
【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 太拉风了
h*y
8 楼
谢谢楼上两位。
那富士的X-T10呢？主要还要考虑出去携带方便。
那富士的X-T10呢？主要还要考虑出去携带方便。
w*6
9 楼
富士据说对焦追焦差些，拍娃对焦还是首要考虑的因素。然后就是大光圈的镜头群了。
加上你要便携1k预算基本上就从楼上两款选一个吧。a6300套加个sigma 30或60f2.8也
差不多。s家的35f1.8及50f1.8超你的预算了。gx85也很好。我现在也在考虑43阵营。
便携，有触摸屏及翻转屏，对焦快，视频好，镜头选择多，画质家用应该够用了。
【在 h***y 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢楼上两位。
: 那富士的X-T10呢？主要还要考虑出去携带方便。
加上你要便携1k预算基本上就从楼上两款选一个吧。a6300套加个sigma 30或60f2.8也
差不多。s家的35f1.8及50f1.8超你的预算了。gx85也很好。我现在也在考虑43阵营。
便携，有触摸屏及翻转屏，对焦快，视频好，镜头选择多，画质家用应该够用了。
【在 h***y 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢楼上两位。
: 那富士的X-T10呢？主要还要考虑出去携带方便。
c*e
10 楼
m43的相机没有相位对焦，追焦能力要差些。不过据说即将推出的E-M1 II sensor会有相
位。
感叹现在相机技术的发展中，sensor的地位有多重要。
【在 w****6 的大作中提到】
: 富士据说对焦追焦差些，拍娃对焦还是首要考虑的因素。然后就是大光圈的镜头群了。
: 加上你要便携1k预算基本上就从楼上两款选一个吧。a6300套加个sigma 30或60f2.8也
: 差不多。s家的35f1.8及50f1.8超你的预算了。gx85也很好。我现在也在考虑43阵营。
: 便携，有触摸屏及翻转屏，对焦快，视频好，镜头选择多，画质家用应该够用了。
位。
感叹现在相机技术的发展中，sensor的地位有多重要。
【在 w****6 的大作中提到】
: 富士据说对焦追焦差些，拍娃对焦还是首要考虑的因素。然后就是大光圈的镜头群了。
: 加上你要便携1k预算基本上就从楼上两款选一个吧。a6300套加个sigma 30或60f2.8也
: 差不多。s家的35f1.8及50f1.8超你的预算了。gx85也很好。我现在也在考虑43阵营。
: 便携，有触摸屏及翻转屏，对焦快，视频好，镜头选择多，画质家用应该够用了。
n*1
11 楼
对焦快，只能上sony，或者canon 7d2, 或者nikon d3300， d5500, d7200以上的。什
么canon 70d, t6s之类，就不用想了。个人经验。
【在 w****6 的大作中提到】
: 富士据说对焦追焦差些，拍娃对焦还是首要考虑的因素。然后就是大光圈的镜头群了。
: 加上你要便携1k预算基本上就从楼上两款选一个吧。a6300套加个sigma 30或60f2.8也
: 差不多。s家的35f1.8及50f1.8超你的预算了。gx85也很好。我现在也在考虑43阵营。
: 便携，有触摸屏及翻转屏，对焦快，视频好，镜头选择多，画质家用应该够用了。
么canon 70d, t6s之类，就不用想了。个人经验。
【在 w****6 的大作中提到】
: 富士据说对焦追焦差些，拍娃对焦还是首要考虑的因素。然后就是大光圈的镜头群了。
: 加上你要便携1k预算基本上就从楼上两款选一个吧。a6300套加个sigma 30或60f2.8也
: 差不多。s家的35f1.8及50f1.8超你的预算了。gx85也很好。我现在也在考虑43阵营。
: 便携，有触摸屏及翻转屏，对焦快，视频好，镜头选择多，画质家用应该够用了。
b*s
13 楼
70D怎么就不行了？
【在 n*****1 的大作中提到】
: 对焦快，只能上sony，或者canon 7d2, 或者nikon d3300， d5500, d7200以上的。什
: 么canon 70d, t6s之类，就不用想了。个人经验。
【在 n*****1 的大作中提到】
: 对焦快，只能上sony，或者canon 7d2, 或者nikon d3300， d5500, d7200以上的。什
: 么canon 70d, t6s之类，就不用想了。个人经验。
n*1
14 楼
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6S9JByA0eo
【在 b*****s 的大作中提到】
: 70D怎么就不行了？
【在 b*****s 的大作中提到】
: 70D怎么就不行了？
b*s
15 楼
A6000的对焦点分布以及4D对焦算法在某些场合是有优势，不代表一切
我主要是想说你把d3300 d5500也放进去了，我不信70d对焦追焦不如这两，70d有这么
多十字对焦点，可靠性秒杀尼康的这两个入门机身，而且本身定位就高一档跟d7100/
7200平级
【在 n*****1 的大作中提到】
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6S9JByA0eo
我主要是想说你把d3300 d5500也放进去了，我不信70d对焦追焦不如这两，70d有这么
多十字对焦点，可靠性秒杀尼康的这两个入门机身，而且本身定位就高一档跟d7100/
7200平级
【在 n*****1 的大作中提到】
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6S9JByA0eo
n*1
16 楼
http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Sony-A6000-versus-Canon-EOS-70D-versus-Nikon-D7100___942_895_865
【在 b*****s 的大作中提到】
: A6000的对焦点分布以及4D对焦算法在某些场合是有优势，不代表一切
: 我主要是想说你把d3300 d5500也放进去了，我不信70d对焦追焦不如这两，70d有这么
: 多十字对焦点，可靠性秒杀尼康的这两个入门机身，而且本身定位就高一档跟d7100/
: 7200平级
【在 b*****s 的大作中提到】
: A6000的对焦点分布以及4D对焦算法在某些场合是有优势，不代表一切
: 我主要是想说你把d3300 d5500也放进去了，我不信70d对焦追焦不如这两，70d有这么
: 多十字对焦点，可靠性秒杀尼康的这两个入门机身，而且本身定位就高一档跟d7100/
: 7200平级
n*1
18 楼
关键是奸商阉割对焦系统太多，根本就不能和别家的初级系统比较。当然，你要是一直
只用canon，也不会有体会。
只用canon，也不会有体会。
b*s
19 楼
我自己是一个a6300一个d800两机在手
就事论事，你的帖子里是对焦，把70d贬得连d3300和d5500都不如了，画质虽然70d因为
佳能老底的因素动态范围落后太多，但是70d的好处完全可以弥补，操控舒服，对焦可
靠，视频出色
【在 n*****1 的大作中提到】
: http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Nikon-D3300-versus-Canon-EOS-70D-versus-Canon-EOS-100D___928_895_871
: 这个评价，d3300比70D的分数高多了。
就事论事，你的帖子里是对焦，把70d贬得连d3300和d5500都不如了，画质虽然70d因为
佳能老底的因素动态范围落后太多，但是70d的好处完全可以弥补，操控舒服，对焦可
靠，视频出色
【在 n*****1 的大作中提到】
: http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Nikon-D3300-versus-Canon-EOS-70D-versus-Canon-EOS-100D___928_895_871
: 这个评价，d3300比70D的分数高多了。
b*s
20 楼
那是同级相比，不是夸级比
【在 n*****1 的大作中提到】
: 关键是奸商阉割对焦系统太多，根本就不能和别家的初级系统比较。当然，你要是一直
: 只用canon，也不会有体会。
【在 n*****1 的大作中提到】
: 关键是奸商阉割对焦系统太多，根本就不能和别家的初级系统比较。当然，你要是一直
: 只用canon，也不会有体会。
n*1
21 楼
价位比，才合理。另外，d3300:
The Nikon D3300 has some of the best low light and best picture quality of
mid level DSLR cameras, in the APS-C sensor size (this is not a full size
sensor, but to get a full size sensor you will need to spend about $2000 or
$3000 more).
Nikon D3300 is rated 30% higher in image quality compared to the Canon 70D.
The Nikon D3300 has a slightly larger sensor than the Canon 70D.
I was torn between Canon and Nikon. If you look at all the complaints about
Canon in the last 1 or 2 years, you will see that they have been going
backwards or sideways, while other companies are making huge strides. The
Canon 70D is a smooth fast auto-focusing camera that is silent, however if
you set it to auto mode and go take pictures they don't look as good as the
Nikon D3300 on auto mode.
Comparing pictures side by side with the Canon 70D, the Nikon D3300 has
sharper pictures. Zooming in on the photos I took with the 70D yielded a
loss of detail. At the same quality settings, same aperture, and shutter
speed settings, and with the exact same scene, I am able to zoom in and get
better photos from the Nikon D3300, the D3300 really captures crisp photos.
The D3300 may be the only camera that doesn't have image quality problems
with the 24 Megapixels. There is a megapixel war going on, although sensor
sizes aren't increasing, which means the image quality isn't getting better
with many cameras, because they are simply trying to cram more pixels with
even less light per pixel, which doesn't help matters. However, the D3300
pulls off the impossible and gets beautiful very sharp photos every time.
The D3300 does very good video, it's glassy smooth and has tremendously good
low light video performance, although the focus noise of the lens will
intrude on your videos, because you can hear the little motor churning away
to maintain focus. You can alternately use manual focus which works just
fine for video. Or you can just push the focus button momentarily to get
focus and then maintain your distance, and that will allow the lens to stop
hunting for focus, which means you won't hear any noise in your video. To
eliminate video focus noise you will need an external mic. The auto focus
isn't super fast in video mode but it does have video auto focus mode, and
if you had an external mic you could do simple documentaries or YouTube
clips just fine and have very clean, very smooth video.
For video you could also consider a Sony HX-300 1080 60P, or the HX-400
which has 24P mode too. I've tried the HX-300 and it has nowhere near the
low light performance of the Nikon D3300 but it does do really good video
and has smooth, fast, silent auto focus, even at up to 50x zoom, which is
ridiculous.
The Nikon D3300 takes noise free pictures in any lighting conditions (I
haven't tried in total darkness of course). I set it to auto on a black
cloudy day, just before rain, and it takes extremely clear pictures with no
noise. The same pictures in sunlight were much less sharp, on the Canon 70D.
The Canon 70D may be able to match the Nikon if you manually tweak things,
but the Nikon doesn't take bad pictures on Auto mode, where as, the Canon
70D on Auto mode takes very average pictures.
I noticed the Canon 70D JPG pictures looked very digitized, and not natural,
some were not even usable on auto mode, but the Nikon default JPG pictures
look more natural. This is probably caused by better JPG compression on the
Nikon? In "Raw" shooting mode I'm sure the Canon 70D has nearly equal image
quality but I never did try that.
Something to note, the Nikon D3300 does not have a low pass filter on the
sensor like most current DSLR's, so in theory it should shoot sharper photos
more easily. The purpose of the low pass filter is to slightly blur pixels
to prevent artifacts, and moire. The Nikon figured out a way around this, so
it can shoot sharper without a "blur" filter. Canon people don't seem to
care about anything except loyalty to one brand, so good luck explaining
this to them! hehe.
This is a very small camera, I would say it feels about 50% smaller than a
Canon 70D. It is very light. The buttons are all exceptional. The shutter is
very loud as most DSLR cameras probably are. Taking pictures is as easy as
turning it on and snapping photos. You'll get amazing results in almost any
lighting with this camera.
If you want the best quality pictures, and you want to step up to a
professional camera without the professional price, here is the camera you
want. Image quality is within 1 point of the Nikon D7100. The entry level
Canon DSLR mid-frame cameras cannot match the image quality of the newest
Nikons.
Purchase an 18-200mm lens in the future to give you wide angle room shots,
or scenic shots at 18mm, or to zoom in, at 200mm. The stock lens works fine,
but it doesn't zoom in very far. That is something to consider in your
purchase because of the price of lenses. However, this camera will last you
for years, and it is a good investment.
Edit: The low light performance of the D3300 is supposed to be very good
compared to older Nikon models. I can attest that this is true. In fact, I
am shocked at how good the low light performance is. With the use of a
tripod, you can turn down the shutter speed so it stays open for several
seconds or longer. The picture I took in a non-lighted region of my house
looked identical to a normally lit room with bright crisp exposure, and I
was able to use ISO 100 setting, there was NO noise. Now this is something
you simply cannot do with a point and shoot camera with a smaller sensor. So
exciting!
The Nikon D3300 has some of the best low light and best picture quality of
mid level DSLR cameras, in the APS-C sensor size (this is not a full size
sensor, but to get a full size sensor you will need to spend about $2000 or
$3000 more).
Nikon D3300 is rated 30% higher in image quality compared to the Canon 70D.
The Nikon D3300 has a slightly larger sensor than the Canon 70D.
I was torn between Canon and Nikon. If you look at all the complaints about
Canon in the last 1 or 2 years, you will see that they have been going
backwards or sideways, while other companies are making huge strides. The
Canon 70D is a smooth fast auto-focusing camera that is silent, however if
you set it to auto mode and go take pictures they don't look as good as the
Nikon D3300 on auto mode.
Comparing pictures side by side with the Canon 70D, the Nikon D3300 has
sharper pictures. Zooming in on the photos I took with the 70D yielded a
loss of detail. At the same quality settings, same aperture, and shutter
speed settings, and with the exact same scene, I am able to zoom in and get
better photos from the Nikon D3300, the D3300 really captures crisp photos.
The D3300 may be the only camera that doesn't have image quality problems
with the 24 Megapixels. There is a megapixel war going on, although sensor
sizes aren't increasing, which means the image quality isn't getting better
with many cameras, because they are simply trying to cram more pixels with
even less light per pixel, which doesn't help matters. However, the D3300
pulls off the impossible and gets beautiful very sharp photos every time.
The D3300 does very good video, it's glassy smooth and has tremendously good
low light video performance, although the focus noise of the lens will
intrude on your videos, because you can hear the little motor churning away
to maintain focus. You can alternately use manual focus which works just
fine for video. Or you can just push the focus button momentarily to get
focus and then maintain your distance, and that will allow the lens to stop
hunting for focus, which means you won't hear any noise in your video. To
eliminate video focus noise you will need an external mic. The auto focus
isn't super fast in video mode but it does have video auto focus mode, and
if you had an external mic you could do simple documentaries or YouTube
clips just fine and have very clean, very smooth video.
For video you could also consider a Sony HX-300 1080 60P, or the HX-400
which has 24P mode too. I've tried the HX-300 and it has nowhere near the
low light performance of the Nikon D3300 but it does do really good video
and has smooth, fast, silent auto focus, even at up to 50x zoom, which is
ridiculous.
The Nikon D3300 takes noise free pictures in any lighting conditions (I
haven't tried in total darkness of course). I set it to auto on a black
cloudy day, just before rain, and it takes extremely clear pictures with no
noise. The same pictures in sunlight were much less sharp, on the Canon 70D.
The Canon 70D may be able to match the Nikon if you manually tweak things,
but the Nikon doesn't take bad pictures on Auto mode, where as, the Canon
70D on Auto mode takes very average pictures.
I noticed the Canon 70D JPG pictures looked very digitized, and not natural,
some were not even usable on auto mode, but the Nikon default JPG pictures
look more natural. This is probably caused by better JPG compression on the
Nikon? In "Raw" shooting mode I'm sure the Canon 70D has nearly equal image
quality but I never did try that.
Something to note, the Nikon D3300 does not have a low pass filter on the
sensor like most current DSLR's, so in theory it should shoot sharper photos
more easily. The purpose of the low pass filter is to slightly blur pixels
to prevent artifacts, and moire. The Nikon figured out a way around this, so
it can shoot sharper without a "blur" filter. Canon people don't seem to
care about anything except loyalty to one brand, so good luck explaining
this to them! hehe.
This is a very small camera, I would say it feels about 50% smaller than a
Canon 70D. It is very light. The buttons are all exceptional. The shutter is
very loud as most DSLR cameras probably are. Taking pictures is as easy as
turning it on and snapping photos. You'll get amazing results in almost any
lighting with this camera.
If you want the best quality pictures, and you want to step up to a
professional camera without the professional price, here is the camera you
want. Image quality is within 1 point of the Nikon D7100. The entry level
Canon DSLR mid-frame cameras cannot match the image quality of the newest
Nikons.
Purchase an 18-200mm lens in the future to give you wide angle room shots,
or scenic shots at 18mm, or to zoom in, at 200mm. The stock lens works fine,
but it doesn't zoom in very far. That is something to consider in your
purchase because of the price of lenses. However, this camera will last you
for years, and it is a good investment.
Edit: The low light performance of the D3300 is supposed to be very good
compared to older Nikon models. I can attest that this is true. In fact, I
am shocked at how good the low light performance is. With the use of a
tripod, you can turn down the shutter speed so it stays open for several
seconds or longer. The picture I took in a non-lighted region of my house
looked identical to a normally lit room with bright crisp exposure, and I
was able to use ISO 100 setting, there was NO noise. Now this is something
you simply cannot do with a point and shoot camera with a smaller sensor. So
exciting!
n*1
22 楼
canon 7d2的对焦才可以拿来和别家比。就是新的t6s和80d的对焦也很烂。当然，你要
是只用canon就当我没有说。
价位比较才合理。就是同样的价格可以买到机器。
是只用canon就当我没有说。
价位比较才合理。就是同样的价格可以买到机器。
e*n
23 楼
用DFD的m43追焦没问题. 比如G7, dpreview是这样评论G7的追焦能力的:
"This is amongst the best performance in this class - in terms of both
mirrorless and DSLR."
mobile01小编也做了追焦测试
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=250&t=4836060&p=1
“我们再来看困难一点的状况好了，连续自动对焦：
Mirrorless系统的相机其实对焦速度都不慢，但准度往往是一个问题，对焦快是基本，
但准才是功力所在。我请机车版编辑Rick以60~70km/h的速度直线前进。GX85的对焦范
围是“一点”，并且设定在最中间，对焦点为中型的大小。对焦在车头灯的位置。拍摄
时我有使用脚架，我使用1/1600s的快门先决设定，所有会影响到对焦的设定都关闭，
尽一切可能的去减少人为因素与系统处理，让相机能够专心的处理连续自动对焦，以发
挥GX85真正AF-C的表现。
拍完回到办公室我才发现Rick的车头有贴一张Mobile01的贴纸，由于车灯与贴纸几乎是
在同一个平面上，而贴纸比较容易分辨锐利度，所以我就裁贴纸的部分了。
如果以非常严苛的标准来看，对焦成功率大约是10张中8张，就算是顶级的DSLR加上70-
200mm f/2.8的镜头也差不多就是这样的表现啊，实在是令人不敢相信....“
有相
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: m43的相机没有相位对焦，追焦能力要差些。不过据说即将推出的E-M1 II sensor会有相
: 位。
: 感叹现在相机技术的发展中，sensor的地位有多重要。
"This is amongst the best performance in this class - in terms of both
mirrorless and DSLR."
mobile01小编也做了追焦测试
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=250&t=4836060&p=1
“我们再来看困难一点的状况好了，连续自动对焦：
Mirrorless系统的相机其实对焦速度都不慢，但准度往往是一个问题，对焦快是基本，
但准才是功力所在。我请机车版编辑Rick以60~70km/h的速度直线前进。GX85的对焦范
围是“一点”，并且设定在最中间，对焦点为中型的大小。对焦在车头灯的位置。拍摄
时我有使用脚架，我使用1/1600s的快门先决设定，所有会影响到对焦的设定都关闭，
尽一切可能的去减少人为因素与系统处理，让相机能够专心的处理连续自动对焦，以发
挥GX85真正AF-C的表现。
拍完回到办公室我才发现Rick的车头有贴一张Mobile01的贴纸，由于车灯与贴纸几乎是
在同一个平面上，而贴纸比较容易分辨锐利度，所以我就裁贴纸的部分了。
如果以非常严苛的标准来看，对焦成功率大约是10张中8张，就算是顶级的DSLR加上70-
200mm f/2.8的镜头也差不多就是这样的表现啊，实在是令人不敢相信....“
有相
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: m43的相机没有相位对焦，追焦能力要差些。不过据说即将推出的E-M1 II sensor会有相
: 位。
: 感叹现在相机技术的发展中，sensor的地位有多重要。
e*n
24 楼
P+相机的对焦优势重要在单次对焦, 速度非常快, 而且暗光对焦能力超强, -4EV,
a6300是-2EV, a6000只有-1EV. 网上同时用过P+S+相机的普遍看法是单次对焦在光线好
的地方P+的优势不大, 但光线差的时候P+的优势就非常明显了. 这个在室内拍娃非常
重要.
顺便再贴一个另一个帖子里台湾同胞做的GX85追焦测试:
a6300是-2EV, a6000只有-1EV. 网上同时用过P+S+相机的普遍看法是单次对焦在光线好
的地方P+的优势不大, 但光线差的时候P+的优势就非常明显了. 这个在室内拍娃非常
重要.
顺便再贴一个另一个帖子里台湾同胞做的GX85追焦测试:
e*n
25 楼
我觉得a6300加个sigma 30或60f2.8没有意思, 本来apsc的高感和景深和m43就差不到一
档. 结果全栽在f2.8的光圈上了. m43那么多f1.7,f1.8的头, 结果就是无论高感和景深
, m43反而都有领先了. 而且sigma 30/60的个头又不小. 除了便宜, 其他没有优点了
【在 w****6 的大作中提到】
: 富士据说对焦追焦差些，拍娃对焦还是首要考虑的因素。然后就是大光圈的镜头群了。
: 加上你要便携1k预算基本上就从楼上两款选一个吧。a6300套加个sigma 30或60f2.8也
: 差不多。s家的35f1.8及50f1.8超你的预算了。gx85也很好。我现在也在考虑43阵营。
: 便携，有触摸屏及翻转屏，对焦快，视频好，镜头选择多，画质家用应该够用了。
档. 结果全栽在f2.8的光圈上了. m43那么多f1.7,f1.8的头, 结果就是无论高感和景深
, m43反而都有领先了. 而且sigma 30/60的个头又不小. 除了便宜, 其他没有优点了
【在 w****6 的大作中提到】
: 富士据说对焦追焦差些，拍娃对焦还是首要考虑的因素。然后就是大光圈的镜头群了。
: 加上你要便携1k预算基本上就从楼上两款选一个吧。a6300套加个sigma 30或60f2.8也
: 差不多。s家的35f1.8及50f1.8超你的预算了。gx85也很好。我现在也在考虑43阵营。
: 便携，有触摸屏及翻转屏，对焦快，视频好，镜头选择多，画质家用应该够用了。
d*d
26 楼
80D能打飞鸟，对焦不能算烂吧
【在 n*****1 的大作中提到】
: canon 7d2的对焦才可以拿来和别家比。就是新的t6s和80d的对焦也很烂。当然，你要
: 是只用canon就当我没有说。
: 价位比较才合理。就是同样的价格可以买到机器。
【在 n*****1 的大作中提到】
: canon 7d2的对焦才可以拿来和别家比。就是新的t6s和80d的对焦也很烂。当然，你要
: 是只用canon就当我没有说。
: 价位比较才合理。就是同样的价格可以买到机器。
n*1
27 楼
7d mark 2 is better than 80d, which is an old camera. Canon even did not
want to give
this autofocus system to 80d.
【在 d******d 的大作中提到】
: 80D能打飞鸟，对焦不能算烂吧
want to give
this autofocus system to 80d.
【在 d******d 的大作中提到】
: 80D能打飞鸟，对焦不能算烂吧
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