d*a
3 楼
它在世的时候被D500压得抬不起头
现在不在世了
幻想涨价是不可能的了
:不会有7D3了。估计7D2二手要涨...
现在不在世了
幻想涨价是不可能的了
:不会有7D3了。估计7D2二手要涨...
d*a
7 楼
索尼要是出一个A7000,残幅版的A9,神马7D2,神马D500都会成为历史。
我若不是反索急先锋,也会推荐索尼的新产品的
:双雄争霸时代 尼康佳能一直玩所谓的错位竞争游戏,这里也不例外。7D2的定位比
D500低一些 目标是买不起1DX2的体育机打鸟用户。我4年前1000刀出头买的7D2 这个价
格当时买得到D500吗?
:
我若不是反索急先锋,也会推荐索尼的新产品的
:双雄争霸时代 尼康佳能一直玩所谓的错位竞争游戏,这里也不例外。7D2的定位比
D500低一些 目标是买不起1DX2的体育机打鸟用户。我4年前1000刀出头买的7D2 这个价
格当时买得到D500吗?
:
h*c
9 楼
大师此言差矣。光机身不行,体育打鸟,镜头必须刚刚的。索尼好的长焦头都不是平民
头。反之,尼康佳能物美价廉的长焦头一大堆。
: 索尼要是出一个A7000,残幅版的A9,神马7D2,神马D500都会成为历史。
: 我若不是反索急先锋,也会推荐索尼的新产品的
: :双雄争霸时代 尼康佳能一直玩所谓的错位竞争游戏,这里也不例外。7D2的定
位比
: D500低一些 目标是买不起1DX2的体育机打鸟用户。我4年前1000刀出头买的7D2
这个价
: 格当时买得到D500吗?
: :
【在 d**a 的大作中提到】
: 索尼要是出一个A7000,残幅版的A9,神马7D2,神马D500都会成为历史。
: 我若不是反索急先锋,也会推荐索尼的新产品的
:
: :双雄争霸时代 尼康佳能一直玩所谓的错位竞争游戏,这里也不例外。7D2的定位比
: D500低一些 目标是买不起1DX2的体育机打鸟用户。我4年前1000刀出头买的7D2 这个价
: 格当时买得到D500吗?
: :
头。反之,尼康佳能物美价廉的长焦头一大堆。
: 索尼要是出一个A7000,残幅版的A9,神马7D2,神马D500都会成为历史。
: 我若不是反索急先锋,也会推荐索尼的新产品的
: :双雄争霸时代 尼康佳能一直玩所谓的错位竞争游戏,这里也不例外。7D2的定
位比
: D500低一些 目标是买不起1DX2的体育机打鸟用户。我4年前1000刀出头买的7D2
这个价
: 格当时买得到D500吗?
: :
【在 d**a 的大作中提到】
: 索尼要是出一个A7000,残幅版的A9,神马7D2,神马D500都会成为历史。
: 我若不是反索急先锋,也会推荐索尼的新产品的
:
: :双雄争霸时代 尼康佳能一直玩所谓的错位竞争游戏,这里也不例外。7D2的定位比
: D500低一些 目标是买不起1DX2的体育机打鸟用户。我4年前1000刀出头买的7D2 这个价
: 格当时买得到D500吗?
: :
a*a
10 楼
说中我的痛点了。Sony的破全幅70-300mm都要一千刀以上,尼康和佳能的都在4/5百刀
。残幅的没有。更不要说400mm以上了,还有便宜的sigma。好在我基本没啥用长焦的需
求了。
【在 h******c 的大作中提到】
: 大师此言差矣。光机身不行,体育打鸟,镜头必须刚刚的。索尼好的长焦头都不是平民
: 头。反之,尼康佳能物美价廉的长焦头一大堆。
:
:
: 索尼要是出一个A7000,残幅版的A9,神马7D2,神马D500都会成为历史。
:
: 我若不是反索急先锋,也会推荐索尼的新产品的
:
: :双雄争霸时代 尼康佳能一直玩所谓的错位竞争游戏,这里也不例外。7D2的定
: 位比
:
: D500低一些 目标是买不起1DX2的体育机打鸟用户。我4年前1000刀出头买的7D2
: 这个价
:
: 格当时买得到D500吗?
。残幅的没有。更不要说400mm以上了,还有便宜的sigma。好在我基本没啥用长焦的需
求了。
【在 h******c 的大作中提到】
: 大师此言差矣。光机身不行,体育打鸟,镜头必须刚刚的。索尼好的长焦头都不是平民
: 头。反之,尼康佳能物美价廉的长焦头一大堆。
:
:
: 索尼要是出一个A7000,残幅版的A9,神马7D2,神马D500都会成为历史。
:
: 我若不是反索急先锋,也会推荐索尼的新产品的
:
: :双雄争霸时代 尼康佳能一直玩所谓的错位竞争游戏,这里也不例外。7D2的定
: 位比
:
: D500低一些 目标是买不起1DX2的体育机打鸟用户。我4年前1000刀出头买的7D2
: 这个价
:
: 格当时买得到D500吗?
d*a
14 楼
阿兰的建议很好!
我也是用了一用富士的定焦
画质再怎么好还是比不上ART放在尼康上的
然后现在决定只留两个ZOOM给富士用
超广,定焦,长焦全是尼康的活
:我要是你的话,根本不买富士定焦头,就买那个18-55变焦一个头旅游和backpacking
用。nikon玩定焦和长焦,平时随便用。
:
我也是用了一用富士的定焦
画质再怎么好还是比不上ART放在尼康上的
然后现在决定只留两个ZOOM给富士用
超广,定焦,长焦全是尼康的活
:我要是你的话,根本不买富士定焦头,就买那个18-55变焦一个头旅游和backpacking
用。nikon玩定焦和长焦,平时随便用。
:
d*a
17 楼
可能是因为腹肌的高感比尼康差
我发现平时在室内、或者晚上拍照腹肌的画质不如尼康D7500
:心中长草,想看看高画质的腹肌色彩。
:xt30的sensor比D7500有进步,XT30的照片按常理应该比D7500强,受腹肌定头的拖累
,XT30的画质不如D7500。
我发现平时在室内、或者晚上拍照腹肌的画质不如尼康D7500
:心中长草,想看看高画质的腹肌色彩。
:xt30的sensor比D7500有进步,XT30的照片按常理应该比D7500强,受腹肌定头的拖累
,XT30的画质不如D7500。
d*a
20 楼
噢
这种情况我还没试过
:白天照户外需要小光圈景深,富士定头50mm光圈过了F8画质就开始不好了,这是个难
以克服的短板
:
这种情况我还没试过
:白天照户外需要小光圈景深,富士定头50mm光圈过了F8画质就开始不好了,这是个难
以克服的短板
:
d*a
22 楼
涨知识了
也就是说残幅机只能用做副机
或者旅游机
或者玩玩的机器
是这样的吗?
:残幅 衍射极限来得快些 F8还是全幅的最佳光圈
:
也就是说残幅机只能用做副机
或者旅游机
或者玩玩的机器
是这样的吗?
:残幅 衍射极限来得快些 F8还是全幅的最佳光圈
:
d*a
24 楼
我富士能打鸟不?
:残幅一般是业余打鸟人士的最爱 因为赚焦段和像素。风光 人像 全幅好很多。
:
:残幅一般是业余打鸟人士的最爱 因为赚焦段和像素。风光 人像 全幅好很多。
:
d*a
26 楼
六千 买不起
:富士有220啊 牛的很
:
:富士有220啊 牛的很
:
d*a
27 楼
六千块 等效300mm
我尼康300mm PF, 全新的设计,才一千多
:富士有220啊 牛的很
:
我尼康300mm PF, 全新的设计,才一千多
:富士有220啊 牛的很
:
w*2
31 楼
7d3还是会和80d90d不一样的,关键是7d3可以有integrated battery grip,这样对焦
和连拍速度会快很多。90d即加一个battery grip也不会比integrated的好。7d3的连拍
可能到14-16fps了,加上更好的dual pixel追焦,还是有市场的。
和连拍速度会快很多。90d即加一个battery grip也不会比integrated的好。7d3的连拍
可能到14-16fps了,加上更好的dual pixel追焦,还是有市场的。
w*2
42 楼
https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/91478/in-what-way-do-battery-grips
-improve-performance
Reading several sources I can deduce that most cameras do not get a faster
shutter speed from the use of the grip. The exception that I found are Nikon
cameras which are reported to indeed improve the fps, although the reason
is not explained. Sometimes this is perceived by various users as a
marketing scheme of the company in order to sell grips.
【在 G*******g 的大作中提到】
: 来点实证精神,报道quote一下吧?您自个的体会,也请具体一点,比如加了battery
: grip以后,对焦连拍速度超过型号标称值多少?
-improve-performance
Reading several sources I can deduce that most cameras do not get a faster
shutter speed from the use of the grip. The exception that I found are Nikon
cameras which are reported to indeed improve the fps, although the reason
is not explained. Sometimes this is perceived by various users as a
marketing scheme of the company in order to sell grips.
【在 G*******g 的大作中提到】
: 来点实证精神,报道quote一下吧?您自个的体会,也请具体一点,比如加了battery
: grip以后,对焦连拍速度超过型号标称值多少?
w*2
43 楼
Two batteries in parallel at the same voltage can supply more current than
one of them alone can. If we were talking about car or truck engines we
would say we have twice as much torque (current) at the same RPM (voltage).
Therefore the same load will not cause the same drop in voltage when two of
the same batteries are in parallel. This also means a greater load can be
put on the two batteries before the voltage will drop by the same amount as
a lesser load will cause the single battery's voltage to drop.
Nikon markets it more, but as voltages in the system drops as the batteries
use their capacity other camera makers' cameras do the same thing - certain
performance parameters are reduced. If you read detailed specs and
performance parameters (as compared to marketing numbers) for many high
performance bodies carefully you will see that maximum frame rates usually
are qualified with something like "... with batteries at 75% or more of
capacity."
In the case of Nikon it seems to be the case that they also use the number
of batteries and their level of charge to 'throttle' the frame rate via
firmware. Only when there are two batteries in the grip and both are above a
certain level will the camera use the increased frame rate.
Canon doesn't market the fact, but their cameras' advertised max burst rate
is only possible when a single battery has about 75-80% of full capacity.
With a grip one can get the same performance as a single full battery when
both batteries are at least 50% or higher. Based on the way Canon often
handles public relations and reveals information, it's my opinion that they
fear what many of their customers would do if they realized the camera
slowed down slightly when the battery is below 75%.
grips
Nikon
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/91478/in-what-way-do-battery-grips
: -improve-performance
: Reading several sources I can deduce that most cameras do not get a faster
: shutter speed from the use of the grip. The exception that I found are Nikon
: cameras which are reported to indeed improve the fps, although the reason
: is not explained. Sometimes this is perceived by various users as a
: marketing scheme of the company in order to sell grips.
one of them alone can. If we were talking about car or truck engines we
would say we have twice as much torque (current) at the same RPM (voltage).
Therefore the same load will not cause the same drop in voltage when two of
the same batteries are in parallel. This also means a greater load can be
put on the two batteries before the voltage will drop by the same amount as
a lesser load will cause the single battery's voltage to drop.
Nikon markets it more, but as voltages in the system drops as the batteries
use their capacity other camera makers' cameras do the same thing - certain
performance parameters are reduced. If you read detailed specs and
performance parameters (as compared to marketing numbers) for many high
performance bodies carefully you will see that maximum frame rates usually
are qualified with something like "... with batteries at 75% or more of
capacity."
In the case of Nikon it seems to be the case that they also use the number
of batteries and their level of charge to 'throttle' the frame rate via
firmware. Only when there are two batteries in the grip and both are above a
certain level will the camera use the increased frame rate.
Canon doesn't market the fact, but their cameras' advertised max burst rate
is only possible when a single battery has about 75-80% of full capacity.
With a grip one can get the same performance as a single full battery when
both batteries are at least 50% or higher. Based on the way Canon often
handles public relations and reveals information, it's my opinion that they
fear what many of their customers would do if they realized the camera
slowed down slightly when the battery is below 75%.
grips
Nikon
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/91478/in-what-way-do-battery-grips
: -improve-performance
: Reading several sources I can deduce that most cameras do not get a faster
: shutter speed from the use of the grip. The exception that I found are Nikon
: cameras which are reported to indeed improve the fps, although the reason
: is not explained. Sometimes this is perceived by various users as a
: marketing scheme of the company in order to sell grips.
w*2
44 楼
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3865495
While Canon said [in the instruction manual] that the grip improved AF speed,
.
of
as
batteries
certain
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: Two batteries in parallel at the same voltage can supply more current than
: one of them alone can. If we were talking about car or truck engines we
: would say we have twice as much torque (current) at the same RPM (voltage).
: Therefore the same load will not cause the same drop in voltage when two of
: the same batteries are in parallel. This also means a greater load can be
: put on the two batteries before the voltage will drop by the same amount as
: a lesser load will cause the single battery's voltage to drop.
: Nikon markets it more, but as voltages in the system drops as the batteries
: use their capacity other camera makers' cameras do the same thing - certain
: performance parameters are reduced. If you read detailed specs and
While Canon said [in the instruction manual] that the grip improved AF speed,
.
of
as
batteries
certain
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: Two batteries in parallel at the same voltage can supply more current than
: one of them alone can. If we were talking about car or truck engines we
: would say we have twice as much torque (current) at the same RPM (voltage).
: Therefore the same load will not cause the same drop in voltage when two of
: the same batteries are in parallel. This also means a greater load can be
: put on the two batteries before the voltage will drop by the same amount as
: a lesser load will cause the single battery's voltage to drop.
: Nikon markets it more, but as voltages in the system drops as the batteries
: use their capacity other camera makers' cameras do the same thing - certain
: performance parameters are reduced. If you read detailed specs and
w*2
45 楼
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/2761653#forum-post-34686572
The big difference is when you use good NiMH batteries in it, instead of the
standard battery. That bumps your frames per second to 8, just one below
the D3. That makes a big difference. As well, you get a lot more frames
overall. I use Energizer 2450 mAh batteries, and have gotten about 2100
frames from a set, nearly double the standard battery. I will shoot that
many in a day shooting hockey. It helps.
speed,
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3865495
: While Canon said [in the instruction manual] that the grip improved AF speed,
:
: .
: of
: as
: batteries
: certain
The big difference is when you use good NiMH batteries in it, instead of the
standard battery. That bumps your frames per second to 8, just one below
the D3. That makes a big difference. As well, you get a lot more frames
overall. I use Energizer 2450 mAh batteries, and have gotten about 2100
frames from a set, nearly double the standard battery. I will shoot that
many in a day shooting hockey. It helps.
speed,
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3865495
: While Canon said [in the instruction manual] that the grip improved AF speed,
:
: .
: of
: as
: batteries
: certain
w*2
46 楼
https://www.flickr.com/groups/[email protected]/discuss/72157629725794734/
Additionally, I've always found batteries last better when shooting high
speed continuous. I get about 300 shots out of a single when taking odd
photos over one week or at least several days, but can get nearer 2500 when
using high speed continuous over a couple of days.
i have similar experience also, last much longer.
Additionally, I've always found batteries last better when shooting high
speed continuous. I get about 300 shots out of a single when taking odd
photos over one week or at least several days, but can get nearer 2500 when
using high speed continuous over a couple of days.
i have similar experience also, last much longer.
a*a
47 楼
连拍和单张本来差很多,你要是算上录像能拍多少frame的话,更多了
when
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: https://www.flickr.com/groups/[email protected]/discuss/72157629725794734/
: Additionally, I've always found batteries last better when shooting high
: speed continuous. I get about 300 shots out of a single when taking odd
: photos over one week or at least several days, but can get nearer 2500 when
: using high speed continuous over a couple of days.
: i have similar experience also, last much longer.
when
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: https://www.flickr.com/groups/[email protected]/discuss/72157629725794734/
: Additionally, I've always found batteries last better when shooting high
: speed continuous. I get about 300 shots out of a single when taking odd
: photos over one week or at least several days, but can get nearer 2500 when
: using high speed continuous over a couple of days.
: i have similar experience also, last much longer.
w*2
48 楼
https://www.photo.net/discuss/threads/canon-battery-grip-and-increased-fps.
5507752/
From my experience using the 5D MK IV with grip. Both batteries are being
drained equally at the same time. I see this when charging both batteries,
they are drained equally and take about the same recharge time, even when
topping them off from partially drained states.
Essentially they are two batteries in parallel so you have doubled the amp
hour capacity of the camera. I had grips on my older Canon APS-C cameras
also. When using those cameras with an older 2000 era Canon 100-400mm lens,
I noticed the lens just responded faster in AF using the grip. Even the IS
seemed to be more stable.. The lens motors are being powered from the camera
. Some lenses may have more of a power draw. Depending on the model camera
and battery, entry level EOS, prosumer, or professional, the power available
for the lens and camera body could vary on battery model and age of battery
and current draw and remaining voltage in the battery. There is a window
where the camera will function and it has a little play but performance may
vary.
It is possible how fast the lens can focus will depend on current draw and
available power, so this could have some bearing on FPS. I recall a
discussion about noise also and that photos taken with a partially drained
older battery may be a little noisier than those taken with a new fully
charged battery. I have searched for this discussion and have not found it
yet. I believe that discussion was discussing third party batteries and new
and used Canon batteries and noise in photos being worse with weak batteries
. The discussion could also have been around a comment that someones camera
seemed to be taking noisier photos than when it was new, and that may have
been how the whole battery discussion came about. Old batteries with less
charge capacity and less power for the camera sensor and processor.
I think the best you can hope for is have a new fully charged battery, the
fastest write speed memory card and expect the frames per second Canon wrote
in the specs. Of course a grip will never hurt and may help insure good
performance.
5507752/
From my experience using the 5D MK IV with grip. Both batteries are being
drained equally at the same time. I see this when charging both batteries,
they are drained equally and take about the same recharge time, even when
topping them off from partially drained states.
Essentially they are two batteries in parallel so you have doubled the amp
hour capacity of the camera. I had grips on my older Canon APS-C cameras
also. When using those cameras with an older 2000 era Canon 100-400mm lens,
I noticed the lens just responded faster in AF using the grip. Even the IS
seemed to be more stable.. The lens motors are being powered from the camera
. Some lenses may have more of a power draw. Depending on the model camera
and battery, entry level EOS, prosumer, or professional, the power available
for the lens and camera body could vary on battery model and age of battery
and current draw and remaining voltage in the battery. There is a window
where the camera will function and it has a little play but performance may
vary.
It is possible how fast the lens can focus will depend on current draw and
available power, so this could have some bearing on FPS. I recall a
discussion about noise also and that photos taken with a partially drained
older battery may be a little noisier than those taken with a new fully
charged battery. I have searched for this discussion and have not found it
yet. I believe that discussion was discussing third party batteries and new
and used Canon batteries and noise in photos being worse with weak batteries
. The discussion could also have been around a comment that someones camera
seemed to be taking noisier photos than when it was new, and that may have
been how the whole battery discussion came about. Old batteries with less
charge capacity and less power for the camera sensor and processor.
I think the best you can hope for is have a new fully charged battery, the
fastest write speed memory card and expect the frames per second Canon wrote
in the specs. Of course a grip will never hurt and may help insure good
performance.
w*2
49 楼
basically, battery grip provides an insurance of high performance power
supply in camera that is needed for features related to high power usage,
like fps, af, noise reduction, etc.
supply in camera that is needed for features related to high power usage,
like fps, af, noise reduction, etc.
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