k*a
2 楼
没看到板上有讨论的,看上去也是pre-ipo
t*u
3 楼
Help Please!
I ordered something from Amazon almost 1.5 week ago but still don't receive
them yet. Now I don't want them. Can anyone tell me how to reject the
package and have them returned to Amazon without extra charge?
Thank you so much for any answer!
I ordered something from Amazon almost 1.5 week ago but still don't receive
them yet. Now I don't want them. Can anyone tell me how to reject the
package and have them returned to Amazon without extra charge?
Thank you so much for any answer!
C*M
4 楼
已婚多年的大妈是out了吗? 如果两人是确定关系的男女朋友,恋爱中的基本花费,吃
个饭看个电影逛个街当然是男朋友出钱。20年前就是这规矩。大妈和大妈的女朋友们都
是这样恋爱过来的。如果大妈没有搞错,现在国内年轻人也是这样办的。
当然假设的是互相喜欢,在谈男女朋友。我想也不会有人就为了骗饭吧。即使有,男的
也应该有最起码的判断力,没有的话不在我讨论范围。
这是男的最基本的爱意,女的衡量对方最基本的试金石。高质量的女孩子肯定是不会同
意AA的。女孩子心里有数,适当的时候会回报男朋友。为什么谁付钱在这里还用得着讨
论。
个饭看个电影逛个街当然是男朋友出钱。20年前就是这规矩。大妈和大妈的女朋友们都
是这样恋爱过来的。如果大妈没有搞错,现在国内年轻人也是这样办的。
当然假设的是互相喜欢,在谈男女朋友。我想也不会有人就为了骗饭吧。即使有,男的
也应该有最起码的判断力,没有的话不在我讨论范围。
这是男的最基本的爱意,女的衡量对方最基本的试金石。高质量的女孩子肯定是不会同
意AA的。女孩子心里有数,适当的时候会回报男朋友。为什么谁付钱在这里还用得着讨
论。
c*a
5 楼
领会精神
i*4
7 楼
先联系amazon呀,看他们怎么说
a*y
8 楼
一般onsite 公司出钱报销差旅费用是应该的,不过也要看面试的人做的prensentation的
内容是不是符合公司的岗位要求。
【在 C*********M 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 已婚多年的大妈是out了吗? 如果两人是确定关系的男女朋友,恋爱中的基本花费,吃
: 个饭看个电影逛个街当然是男朋友出钱。20年前就是这规矩。大妈和大妈的女朋友们都
: 是这样恋爱过来的。如果大妈没有搞错,现在国内年轻人也是这样办的。
: 当然假设的是互相喜欢,在谈男女朋友。我想也不会有人就为了骗饭吧。即使有,男的
: 也应该有最起码的判断力,没有的话不在我讨论范围。
: 这是男的最基本的爱意,女的衡量对方最基本的试金石。高质量的女孩子肯定是不会同
: 意AA的。女孩子心里有数,适当的时候会回报男朋友。为什么谁付钱在这里还用得着讨
: 论。
内容是不是符合公司的岗位要求。
【在 C*********M 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 已婚多年的大妈是out了吗? 如果两人是确定关系的男女朋友,恋爱中的基本花费,吃
: 个饭看个电影逛个街当然是男朋友出钱。20年前就是这规矩。大妈和大妈的女朋友们都
: 是这样恋爱过来的。如果大妈没有搞错,现在国内年轻人也是这样办的。
: 当然假设的是互相喜欢,在谈男女朋友。我想也不会有人就为了骗饭吧。即使有,男的
: 也应该有最起码的判断力,没有的话不在我讨论范围。
: 这是男的最基本的爱意,女的衡量对方最基本的试金石。高质量的女孩子肯定是不会同
: 意AA的。女孩子心里有数,适当的时候会回报男朋友。为什么谁付钱在这里还用得着讨
: 论。
O*3
10 楼
我有一个order delay了,联系了客服马上就退款了。
receive
【在 t****u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Help Please!
: I ordered something from Amazon almost 1.5 week ago but still don't receive
: them yet. Now I don't want them. Can anyone tell me how to reject the
: package and have them returned to Amazon without extra charge?
: Thank you so much for any answer!
receive
【在 t****u 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Help Please!
: I ordered something from Amazon almost 1.5 week ago but still don't receive
: them yet. Now I don't want them. Can anyone tell me how to reject the
: package and have them returned to Amazon without extra charge?
: Thank you so much for any answer!
B*1
12 楼
netflix在什么device上都可以跑
要roku干啥呢
要roku干啥呢
y*f
13 楼
amazon 的live chat客服很好,实话实说就好了。
o*c
16 楼
包裹来的时候直接告诉ups大叔不要了就行了
我这么干过,没问题,直接邮回去了,自己申请退款就好了
receive
【在 t****u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Help Please!
: I ordered something from Amazon almost 1.5 week ago but still don't receive
: them yet. Now I don't want them. Can anyone tell me how to reject the
: package and have them returned to Amazon without extra charge?
: Thank you so much for any answer!
我这么干过,没问题,直接邮回去了,自己申请退款就好了
receive
【在 t****u 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Help Please!
: I ordered something from Amazon almost 1.5 week ago but still don't receive
: them yet. Now I don't want them. Can anyone tell me how to reject the
: package and have them returned to Amazon without extra charge?
: Thank you so much for any answer!
c*r
17 楼
这个大妈是说我吧,好吧,这点我好象没OUT,一直走在前沿呢:))俺家算大家庭,
从二十年前到现在都有人在恋爱,还真不是都男的出钱,原则是小钱男的出,大钱分滩
。吃饭要AA的没有,一味占便宜的也没有,什么事都要讲个平衡。
【在 C*********M 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 已婚多年的大妈是out了吗? 如果两人是确定关系的男女朋友,恋爱中的基本花费,吃
: 个饭看个电影逛个街当然是男朋友出钱。20年前就是这规矩。大妈和大妈的女朋友们都
: 是这样恋爱过来的。如果大妈没有搞错,现在国内年轻人也是这样办的。
: 当然假设的是互相喜欢,在谈男女朋友。我想也不会有人就为了骗饭吧。即使有,男的
: 也应该有最起码的判断力,没有的话不在我讨论范围。
: 这是男的最基本的爱意,女的衡量对方最基本的试金石。高质量的女孩子肯定是不会同
: 意AA的。女孩子心里有数,适当的时候会回报男朋友。为什么谁付钱在这里还用得着讨
: 论。
从二十年前到现在都有人在恋爱,还真不是都男的出钱,原则是小钱男的出,大钱分滩
。吃饭要AA的没有,一味占便宜的也没有,什么事都要讲个平衡。
【在 C*********M 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 已婚多年的大妈是out了吗? 如果两人是确定关系的男女朋友,恋爱中的基本花费,吃
: 个饭看个电影逛个街当然是男朋友出钱。20年前就是这规矩。大妈和大妈的女朋友们都
: 是这样恋爱过来的。如果大妈没有搞错,现在国内年轻人也是这样办的。
: 当然假设的是互相喜欢,在谈男女朋友。我想也不会有人就为了骗饭吧。即使有,男的
: 也应该有最起码的判断力,没有的话不在我讨论范围。
: 这是男的最基本的爱意,女的衡量对方最基本的试金石。高质量的女孩子肯定是不会同
: 意AA的。女孩子心里有数,适当的时候会回报男朋友。为什么谁付钱在这里还用得着讨
: 论。
w*e
21 楼
问题不在于确定关系的男女朋友怎样买单,那没什么好讨论的。
问题在于男女尚未确定关系时花费怎样买单。
【在 C*********M 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 已婚多年的大妈是out了吗? 如果两人是确定关系的男女朋友,恋爱中的基本花费,吃
: 个饭看个电影逛个街当然是男朋友出钱。20年前就是这规矩。大妈和大妈的女朋友们都
: 是这样恋爱过来的。如果大妈没有搞错,现在国内年轻人也是这样办的。
: 当然假设的是互相喜欢,在谈男女朋友。我想也不会有人就为了骗饭吧。即使有,男的
: 也应该有最起码的判断力,没有的话不在我讨论范围。
: 这是男的最基本的爱意,女的衡量对方最基本的试金石。高质量的女孩子肯定是不会同
: 意AA的。女孩子心里有数,适当的时候会回报男朋友。为什么谁付钱在这里还用得着讨
: 论。
问题在于男女尚未确定关系时花费怎样买单。
【在 C*********M 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 已婚多年的大妈是out了吗? 如果两人是确定关系的男女朋友,恋爱中的基本花费,吃
: 个饭看个电影逛个街当然是男朋友出钱。20年前就是这规矩。大妈和大妈的女朋友们都
: 是这样恋爱过来的。如果大妈没有搞错,现在国内年轻人也是这样办的。
: 当然假设的是互相喜欢,在谈男女朋友。我想也不会有人就为了骗饭吧。即使有,男的
: 也应该有最起码的判断力,没有的话不在我讨论范围。
: 这是男的最基本的爱意,女的衡量对方最基本的试金石。高质量的女孩子肯定是不会同
: 意AA的。女孩子心里有数,适当的时候会回报男朋友。为什么谁付钱在这里还用得着讨
: 论。
i*n
29 楼
我觉得是这边美女稀少,所以大部分男的追女生时都是一种谈谈看的心态,谈不成也无
所谓。女的呢,可能大部分恋爱经验少,看以前大学里美女谈恋爱都是男的付账,以为
这边谈恋爱也是男的付账,所以就弄成这样。。。
所以我建议还是成立一个第一次约会行为规范,如果男的特喜欢这女的,账单送上来就
抢着付账,如果一般喜欢,男的就别去动账单,女方看男的没反应,就知道男方的意思
仅仅是谈谈看,那女方就顺势提出AA,以后要不要继续约会,看双方心情。
鉴于第一次是AA,所以不要去太贵的地方,免得双方A完都觉得浪费饭钱。可以去
buffet,便宜,还能吃多点,就算没谈成对象,饱餐一顿也不亏了。
【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得主要在北美这个环境里面,情况比较特殊,男的女的互相之间都处于一般般有点
: 好感,可以谈谈看,但是都没到真的很喜欢的地步,所以这个问题才这么凸显
所谓。女的呢,可能大部分恋爱经验少,看以前大学里美女谈恋爱都是男的付账,以为
这边谈恋爱也是男的付账,所以就弄成这样。。。
所以我建议还是成立一个第一次约会行为规范,如果男的特喜欢这女的,账单送上来就
抢着付账,如果一般喜欢,男的就别去动账单,女方看男的没反应,就知道男方的意思
仅仅是谈谈看,那女方就顺势提出AA,以后要不要继续约会,看双方心情。
鉴于第一次是AA,所以不要去太贵的地方,免得双方A完都觉得浪费饭钱。可以去
buffet,便宜,还能吃多点,就算没谈成对象,饱餐一顿也不亏了。
【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得主要在北美这个环境里面,情况比较特殊,男的女的互相之间都处于一般般有点
: 好感,可以谈谈看,但是都没到真的很喜欢的地步,所以这个问题才这么凸显
a*y
32 楼
规范这玩意还是太难了。
date事后来雀版发帖把话说明白,让大家心里都有数,我觉得可以考虑
【在 i*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得是这边美女稀少,所以大部分男的追女生时都是一种谈谈看的心态,谈不成也无
: 所谓。女的呢,可能大部分恋爱经验少,看以前大学里美女谈恋爱都是男的付账,以为
: 这边谈恋爱也是男的付账,所以就弄成这样。。。
: 所以我建议还是成立一个第一次约会行为规范,如果男的特喜欢这女的,账单送上来就
: 抢着付账,如果一般喜欢,男的就别去动账单,女方看男的没反应,就知道男方的意思
: 仅仅是谈谈看,那女方就顺势提出AA,以后要不要继续约会,看双方心情。
: 鉴于第一次是AA,所以不要去太贵的地方,免得双方A完都觉得浪费饭钱。可以去
: buffet,便宜,还能吃多点,就算没谈成对象,饱餐一顿也不亏了。
date事后来雀版发帖把话说明白,让大家心里都有数,我觉得可以考虑
【在 i*****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得是这边美女稀少,所以大部分男的追女生时都是一种谈谈看的心态,谈不成也无
: 所谓。女的呢,可能大部分恋爱经验少,看以前大学里美女谈恋爱都是男的付账,以为
: 这边谈恋爱也是男的付账,所以就弄成这样。。。
: 所以我建议还是成立一个第一次约会行为规范,如果男的特喜欢这女的,账单送上来就
: 抢着付账,如果一般喜欢,男的就别去动账单,女方看男的没反应,就知道男方的意思
: 仅仅是谈谈看,那女方就顺势提出AA,以后要不要继续约会,看双方心情。
: 鉴于第一次是AA,所以不要去太贵的地方,免得双方A完都觉得浪费饭钱。可以去
: buffet,便宜,还能吃多点,就算没谈成对象,饱餐一顿也不亏了。
A*r
34 楼
就是这么回事啊。确定男女关系之前的也是男人出的,哪都一样。如果第一次约会就跟
我AA的date,我肯定不会继续;如果我第一次约会就跟他AA的,我肯定也就没打算跟他
继续。有钱请顿贵的,没钱小摊上吃点,这点饭钱有啥可唠叨的。我之前老美同事的女
朋友(美国白女)约会连地铁票都不出的,更别说饭钱门票钱了。某些同学一扯就是老
美AA,哪有这一说啊。朋友吃饭才AA呢,男女约会当然男的出钱了。连出这点钱还计较
,是男人么?有些人唠叨说,看到外F的都是女生出钱,这八成都只是普通朋友或者同
事。我跟美国同事出去吃饭,我就是会抢着付账,因为同事帮了我很多忙,当然同事也
会抢着至少要AA。
在意的你的女生,你肯定也不会亏了的。女生会在家里做饭给你吃,或者买礼物送你啥
的。一顿饭钱,还讨论,真是很没劲。
【在 C*********M 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 已婚多年的大妈是out了吗? 如果两人是确定关系的男女朋友,恋爱中的基本花费,吃
: 个饭看个电影逛个街当然是男朋友出钱。20年前就是这规矩。大妈和大妈的女朋友们都
: 是这样恋爱过来的。如果大妈没有搞错,现在国内年轻人也是这样办的。
: 当然假设的是互相喜欢,在谈男女朋友。我想也不会有人就为了骗饭吧。即使有,男的
: 也应该有最起码的判断力,没有的话不在我讨论范围。
: 这是男的最基本的爱意,女的衡量对方最基本的试金石。高质量的女孩子肯定是不会同
: 意AA的。女孩子心里有数,适当的时候会回报男朋友。为什么谁付钱在这里还用得着讨
: 论。
我AA的date,我肯定不会继续;如果我第一次约会就跟他AA的,我肯定也就没打算跟他
继续。有钱请顿贵的,没钱小摊上吃点,这点饭钱有啥可唠叨的。我之前老美同事的女
朋友(美国白女)约会连地铁票都不出的,更别说饭钱门票钱了。某些同学一扯就是老
美AA,哪有这一说啊。朋友吃饭才AA呢,男女约会当然男的出钱了。连出这点钱还计较
,是男人么?有些人唠叨说,看到外F的都是女生出钱,这八成都只是普通朋友或者同
事。我跟美国同事出去吃饭,我就是会抢着付账,因为同事帮了我很多忙,当然同事也
会抢着至少要AA。
在意的你的女生,你肯定也不会亏了的。女生会在家里做饭给你吃,或者买礼物送你啥
的。一顿饭钱,还讨论,真是很没劲。
【在 C*********M 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 已婚多年的大妈是out了吗? 如果两人是确定关系的男女朋友,恋爱中的基本花费,吃
: 个饭看个电影逛个街当然是男朋友出钱。20年前就是这规矩。大妈和大妈的女朋友们都
: 是这样恋爱过来的。如果大妈没有搞错,现在国内年轻人也是这样办的。
: 当然假设的是互相喜欢,在谈男女朋友。我想也不会有人就为了骗饭吧。即使有,男的
: 也应该有最起码的判断力,没有的话不在我讨论范围。
: 这是男的最基本的爱意,女的衡量对方最基本的试金石。高质量的女孩子肯定是不会同
: 意AA的。女孩子心里有数,适当的时候会回报男朋友。为什么谁付钱在这里还用得着讨
: 论。
a*y
35 楼
这事说到底还是个个人选择加上市场竞争,是个双向过滤的问题
【在 A*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 就是这么回事啊。确定男女关系之前的也是男人出的,哪都一样。如果第一次约会就跟
: 我AA的date,我肯定不会继续;如果我第一次约会就跟他AA的,我肯定也就没打算跟他
: 继续。有钱请顿贵的,没钱小摊上吃点,这点饭钱有啥可唠叨的。我之前老美同事的女
: 朋友(美国白女)约会连地铁票都不出的,更别说饭钱门票钱了。某些同学一扯就是老
: 美AA,哪有这一说啊。朋友吃饭才AA呢,男女约会当然男的出钱了。连出这点钱还计较
: ,是男人么?有些人唠叨说,看到外F的都是女生出钱,这八成都只是普通朋友或者同
: 事。我跟美国同事出去吃饭,我就是会抢着付账,因为同事帮了我很多忙,当然同事也
: 会抢着至少要AA。
: 在意的你的女生,你肯定也不会亏了的。女生会在家里做饭给你吃,或者买礼物送你啥
: 的。一顿饭钱,还讨论,真是很没劲。
【在 A*********r 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 就是这么回事啊。确定男女关系之前的也是男人出的,哪都一样。如果第一次约会就跟
: 我AA的date,我肯定不会继续;如果我第一次约会就跟他AA的,我肯定也就没打算跟他
: 继续。有钱请顿贵的,没钱小摊上吃点,这点饭钱有啥可唠叨的。我之前老美同事的女
: 朋友(美国白女)约会连地铁票都不出的,更别说饭钱门票钱了。某些同学一扯就是老
: 美AA,哪有这一说啊。朋友吃饭才AA呢,男女约会当然男的出钱了。连出这点钱还计较
: ,是男人么?有些人唠叨说,看到外F的都是女生出钱,这八成都只是普通朋友或者同
: 事。我跟美国同事出去吃饭,我就是会抢着付账,因为同事帮了我很多忙,当然同事也
: 会抢着至少要AA。
: 在意的你的女生,你肯定也不会亏了的。女生会在家里做饭给你吃,或者买礼物送你啥
: 的。一顿饭钱,还讨论,真是很没劲。
a*y
37 楼
另外这也凸显了北美这的实际情况:男女之间的感情,确实只有一顿饭还讨论的起点。
【在 A*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 就是这么回事啊。确定男女关系之前的也是男人出的,哪都一样。如果第一次约会就跟
: 我AA的date,我肯定不会继续;如果我第一次约会就跟他AA的,我肯定也就没打算跟他
: 继续。有钱请顿贵的,没钱小摊上吃点,这点饭钱有啥可唠叨的。我之前老美同事的女
: 朋友(美国白女)约会连地铁票都不出的,更别说饭钱门票钱了。某些同学一扯就是老
: 美AA,哪有这一说啊。朋友吃饭才AA呢,男女约会当然男的出钱了。连出这点钱还计较
: ,是男人么?有些人唠叨说,看到外F的都是女生出钱,这八成都只是普通朋友或者同
: 事。我跟美国同事出去吃饭,我就是会抢着付账,因为同事帮了我很多忙,当然同事也
: 会抢着至少要AA。
: 在意的你的女生,你肯定也不会亏了的。女生会在家里做饭给你吃,或者买礼物送你啥
: 的。一顿饭钱,还讨论,真是很没劲。
【在 A*********r 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 就是这么回事啊。确定男女关系之前的也是男人出的,哪都一样。如果第一次约会就跟
: 我AA的date,我肯定不会继续;如果我第一次约会就跟他AA的,我肯定也就没打算跟他
: 继续。有钱请顿贵的,没钱小摊上吃点,这点饭钱有啥可唠叨的。我之前老美同事的女
: 朋友(美国白女)约会连地铁票都不出的,更别说饭钱门票钱了。某些同学一扯就是老
: 美AA,哪有这一说啊。朋友吃饭才AA呢,男女约会当然男的出钱了。连出这点钱还计较
: ,是男人么?有些人唠叨说,看到外F的都是女生出钱,这八成都只是普通朋友或者同
: 事。我跟美国同事出去吃饭,我就是会抢着付账,因为同事帮了我很多忙,当然同事也
: 会抢着至少要AA。
: 在意的你的女生,你肯定也不会亏了的。女生会在家里做饭给你吃,或者买礼物送你啥
: 的。一顿饭钱,还讨论,真是很没劲。
C*M
39 楼
是滴。
如果第一次出去我不喜欢对方不想继续,我会抢着付账的 :-)
【在 A*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 就是这么回事啊。确定男女关系之前的也是男人出的,哪都一样。如果第一次约会就跟
: 我AA的date,我肯定不会继续;如果我第一次约会就跟他AA的,我肯定也就没打算跟他
: 继续。有钱请顿贵的,没钱小摊上吃点,这点饭钱有啥可唠叨的。我之前老美同事的女
: 朋友(美国白女)约会连地铁票都不出的,更别说饭钱门票钱了。某些同学一扯就是老
: 美AA,哪有这一说啊。朋友吃饭才AA呢,男女约会当然男的出钱了。连出这点钱还计较
: ,是男人么?有些人唠叨说,看到外F的都是女生出钱,这八成都只是普通朋友或者同
: 事。我跟美国同事出去吃饭,我就是会抢着付账,因为同事帮了我很多忙,当然同事也
: 会抢着至少要AA。
: 在意的你的女生,你肯定也不会亏了的。女生会在家里做饭给你吃,或者买礼物送你啥
: 的。一顿饭钱,还讨论,真是很没劲。
如果第一次出去我不喜欢对方不想继续,我会抢着付账的 :-)
【在 A*********r 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 就是这么回事啊。确定男女关系之前的也是男人出的,哪都一样。如果第一次约会就跟
: 我AA的date,我肯定不会继续;如果我第一次约会就跟他AA的,我肯定也就没打算跟他
: 继续。有钱请顿贵的,没钱小摊上吃点,这点饭钱有啥可唠叨的。我之前老美同事的女
: 朋友(美国白女)约会连地铁票都不出的,更别说饭钱门票钱了。某些同学一扯就是老
: 美AA,哪有这一说啊。朋友吃饭才AA呢,男女约会当然男的出钱了。连出这点钱还计较
: ,是男人么?有些人唠叨说,看到外F的都是女生出钱,这八成都只是普通朋友或者同
: 事。我跟美国同事出去吃饭,我就是会抢着付账,因为同事帮了我很多忙,当然同事也
: 会抢着至少要AA。
: 在意的你的女生,你肯定也不会亏了的。女生会在家里做饭给你吃,或者买礼物送你啥
: 的。一顿饭钱,还讨论,真是很没劲。
i*n
42 楼
老美据说是这样的,没敲定男女朋友关系的时候,是男的出。敲定关系了,就你出点钱
我出点钱,但没那算得那么清楚哈,基本上就是你买顿晚饭,等会儿饭后看电影的时候
,我买点饮料和爆米花两人一起吃啥的。
【在 A*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 就是这么回事啊。确定男女关系之前的也是男人出的,哪都一样。如果第一次约会就跟
: 我AA的date,我肯定不会继续;如果我第一次约会就跟他AA的,我肯定也就没打算跟他
: 继续。有钱请顿贵的,没钱小摊上吃点,这点饭钱有啥可唠叨的。我之前老美同事的女
: 朋友(美国白女)约会连地铁票都不出的,更别说饭钱门票钱了。某些同学一扯就是老
: 美AA,哪有这一说啊。朋友吃饭才AA呢,男女约会当然男的出钱了。连出这点钱还计较
: ,是男人么?有些人唠叨说,看到外F的都是女生出钱,这八成都只是普通朋友或者同
: 事。我跟美国同事出去吃饭,我就是会抢着付账,因为同事帮了我很多忙,当然同事也
: 会抢着至少要AA。
: 在意的你的女生,你肯定也不会亏了的。女生会在家里做饭给你吃,或者买礼物送你啥
: 的。一顿饭钱,还讨论,真是很没劲。
我出点钱,但没那算得那么清楚哈,基本上就是你买顿晚饭,等会儿饭后看电影的时候
,我买点饮料和爆米花两人一起吃啥的。
【在 A*********r 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 就是这么回事啊。确定男女关系之前的也是男人出的,哪都一样。如果第一次约会就跟
: 我AA的date,我肯定不会继续;如果我第一次约会就跟他AA的,我肯定也就没打算跟他
: 继续。有钱请顿贵的,没钱小摊上吃点,这点饭钱有啥可唠叨的。我之前老美同事的女
: 朋友(美国白女)约会连地铁票都不出的,更别说饭钱门票钱了。某些同学一扯就是老
: 美AA,哪有这一说啊。朋友吃饭才AA呢,男女约会当然男的出钱了。连出这点钱还计较
: ,是男人么?有些人唠叨说,看到外F的都是女生出钱,这八成都只是普通朋友或者同
: 事。我跟美国同事出去吃饭,我就是会抢着付账,因为同事帮了我很多忙,当然同事也
: 会抢着至少要AA。
: 在意的你的女生,你肯定也不会亏了的。女生会在家里做饭给你吃,或者买礼物送你啥
: 的。一顿饭钱,还讨论,真是很没劲。
t*e
43 楼
大家讨论的不是一回事 对没确定关系的 或者有事外出一起吃饭的 当然是男的买单 对
自己不喜欢的女生 更要主动买单
但LZ说的恋爱期间都是男的买单 那就不是风度问题了 是女的有没有用心 当然 如果你
能用其它方式表示你的爱意和关心 不买单也可以 但是一味被动接受 就不合适了
【在 i*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 男的如果愿意买单,那有绅士风度当然让人赞赏啦,就怕有的男的买了单女的对他没意
: 思,然后他就觉得买亏了,当初嚷嚷女的占人便宜。
: 所以如果愿意买单的,还是去便宜一点的地方,比如麦当劳,吃到撑,一个人也吃不了
: 十块钱吧。就算没谈成,也不至于亏损太多,而且让女的吃了垃圾食品,让她发胖,也
: 算报了仇了。
自己不喜欢的女生 更要主动买单
但LZ说的恋爱期间都是男的买单 那就不是风度问题了 是女的有没有用心 当然 如果你
能用其它方式表示你的爱意和关心 不买单也可以 但是一味被动接受 就不合适了
【在 i*****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 男的如果愿意买单,那有绅士风度当然让人赞赏啦,就怕有的男的买了单女的对他没意
: 思,然后他就觉得买亏了,当初嚷嚷女的占人便宜。
: 所以如果愿意买单的,还是去便宜一点的地方,比如麦当劳,吃到撑,一个人也吃不了
: 十块钱吧。就算没谈成,也不至于亏损太多,而且让女的吃了垃圾食品,让她发胖,也
: 算报了仇了。
b*k
47 楼
就算不是男女朋友,出去吃回钣,也没有让女的付钱的。
t*e
51 楼
以前真没想过这是个问题 好像交往过的女生都没有计较钱的 有来有往 都很自然
【 在 lingling19 (00) 的大作中提到: 】
【 在 lingling19 (00) 的大作中提到: 】
G*n
56 楼
Let me tell you how dating works in the US.
1. Guys must pay for the first date.
2. If after that the girl let the guy pay for dinners, sex is expected to be
the return. It usually happens after no more than 3 dates.
3. If the girl doesn't want to have sex so early in the relationship, then
she should definitely make sure that they are paying the equal share.
4. If a girl keeps getting free dinner yet doesn't offer the guy sex in
return, after 3 dates, the relationship is over and she's officially a bitch
. Everyone the guy knows will know and no one heard about the story will
ever ask her out again.
Of course, once they enter the long term relationship, it doesn't matter who
pays.
The key is that in the American culture, the girl offers sex in return for
the treat for dinner. That's how they balanced it.
I hope this will clear things up a bit.
【在 i*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 老美据说是这样的,没敲定男女朋友关系的时候,是男的出。敲定关系了,就你出点钱
: 我出点钱,但没那算得那么清楚哈,基本上就是你买顿晚饭,等会儿饭后看电影的时候
: ,我买点饮料和爆米花两人一起吃啥的。
1. Guys must pay for the first date.
2. If after that the girl let the guy pay for dinners, sex is expected to be
the return. It usually happens after no more than 3 dates.
3. If the girl doesn't want to have sex so early in the relationship, then
she should definitely make sure that they are paying the equal share.
4. If a girl keeps getting free dinner yet doesn't offer the guy sex in
return, after 3 dates, the relationship is over and she's officially a bitch
. Everyone the guy knows will know and no one heard about the story will
ever ask her out again.
Of course, once they enter the long term relationship, it doesn't matter who
pays.
The key is that in the American culture, the girl offers sex in return for
the treat for dinner. That's how they balanced it.
I hope this will clear things up a bit.
【在 i*****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 老美据说是这样的,没敲定男女朋友关系的时候,是男的出。敲定关系了,就你出点钱
: 我出点钱,但没那算得那么清楚哈,基本上就是你买顿晚饭,等会儿饭后看电影的时候
: ,我买点饮料和爆米花两人一起吃啥的。
e*e
57 楼
这位不是著名反外F自己外F男吗?
前天说外男低贱,昨天说外女高贵
今天为什么约会以外男为标杆呢?
此外你的理论也比较搞笑,不知道你的圈子怎么样,是不是一圈人坐地下室边吸大麻边
打游戏边谈女人的?
我老公算1.5代,小学以上都是在美国念的,朋友里大多数也是美国本地人,我给他念
了一下你说的,他说除了3次上床
论其他没有听说过。3次上床和是否信教,两人来不来电有关。和请不请吃饭没有关系。
以下是他说的:
Traditionally men paid for dates. Now it is more common for couples to
split the bill. Usually what
happens is the guy will offer to pay, and depending on the girl he is with,
she will either let him, or offer to
split the bill. this is not an indication of interest as much as it is a
reflection of the girl's personality.
至于如果女生吃了男生3次饭没有上床就成bitch的,他也从来没有听说过。倒是听说过
男生炫耀和谁上过床的。不管哪
个,听起来都很没有教养的gossip kings的感觉。
be
bitch
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Let me tell you how dating works in the US.
: 1. Guys must pay for the first date.
: 2. If after that the girl let the guy pay for dinners, sex is expected to be
: the return. It usually happens after no more than 3 dates.
: 3. If the girl doesn't want to have sex so early in the relationship, then
: she should definitely make sure that they are paying the equal share.
: 4. If a girl keeps getting free dinner yet doesn't offer the guy sex in
: return, after 3 dates, the relationship is over and she's officially a bitch
: . Everyone the guy knows will know and no one heard about the story will
: ever ask her out again.
前天说外男低贱,昨天说外女高贵
今天为什么约会以外男为标杆呢?
此外你的理论也比较搞笑,不知道你的圈子怎么样,是不是一圈人坐地下室边吸大麻边
打游戏边谈女人的?
我老公算1.5代,小学以上都是在美国念的,朋友里大多数也是美国本地人,我给他念
了一下你说的,他说除了3次上床
论其他没有听说过。3次上床和是否信教,两人来不来电有关。和请不请吃饭没有关系。
以下是他说的:
Traditionally men paid for dates. Now it is more common for couples to
split the bill. Usually what
happens is the guy will offer to pay, and depending on the girl he is with,
she will either let him, or offer to
split the bill. this is not an indication of interest as much as it is a
reflection of the girl's personality.
至于如果女生吃了男生3次饭没有上床就成bitch的,他也从来没有听说过。倒是听说过
男生炫耀和谁上过床的。不管哪
个,听起来都很没有教养的gossip kings的感觉。
be
bitch
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Let me tell you how dating works in the US.
: 1. Guys must pay for the first date.
: 2. If after that the girl let the guy pay for dinners, sex is expected to be
: the return. It usually happens after no more than 3 dates.
: 3. If the girl doesn't want to have sex so early in the relationship, then
: she should definitely make sure that they are paying the equal share.
: 4. If a girl keeps getting free dinner yet doesn't offer the guy sex in
: return, after 3 dates, the relationship is over and she's officially a bitch
: . Everyone the guy knows will know and no one heard about the story will
: ever ask her out again.
e*e
58 楼
此外我在没有和谁确定关系以前都是第一次喝咖啡,以后还见面就各付一次,除非对方
坚持。既然没有男女朋友名分也不沾人的,随时准备说不合适了不要见面了。男女朋友
到结婚之间老公没有让我付过饭钱。结婚以后户头加各自名字,都往里放钱,也无所谓
谁的谁的。
坚持。既然没有男女朋友名分也不沾人的,随时准备说不合适了不要见面了。男女朋友
到结婚之间老公没有让我付过饭钱。结婚以后户头加各自名字,都往里放钱,也无所谓
谁的谁的。
G*n
63 楼
Well. I don't know why you got so upset. I guess random name calling does nothing but show your personality also. All everybody see is that you lost it and started bashing around like a crazy woman.
3次上床论 is the key. This entire thing became a problem because Chinese women don't know about the 3次上床论.
As of me, I don't think I have the obligation to explain my private life to you in detail. All I can say is that it's no different than any other educated young guy in America. We go to bars, we go rock climbing, and we go skiing; there are men in our group, and there are women; we are from all different places , and we all hold respectable jobs. But most of all, we like people who have a sense of humor and are not afraid of telling the truth.
I guess this is why I made you so upset. Nothing frightens people more than the truth.
But you know what, laugh a little, and that horrible bitterness will go away very fast. It happens to everyone once in a while.
系。
【在 e*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 这位不是著名反外F自己外F男吗?
: 前天说外男低贱,昨天说外女高贵
: 今天为什么约会以外男为标杆呢?
: 此外你的理论也比较搞笑,不知道你的圈子怎么样,是不是一圈人坐地下室边吸大麻边
: 打游戏边谈女人的?
: 我老公算1.5代,小学以上都是在美国念的,朋友里大多数也是美国本地人,我给他念
: 了一下你说的,他说除了3次上床
: 论其他没有听说过。3次上床和是否信教,两人来不来电有关。和请不请吃饭没有关系。
: 以下是他说的:
: Traditionally men paid for dates. Now it is more common for couples to
3次上床论 is the key. This entire thing became a problem because Chinese women don't know about the 3次上床论.
As of me, I don't think I have the obligation to explain my private life to you in detail. All I can say is that it's no different than any other educated young guy in America. We go to bars, we go rock climbing, and we go skiing; there are men in our group, and there are women; we are from all different places , and we all hold respectable jobs. But most of all, we like people who have a sense of humor and are not afraid of telling the truth.
I guess this is why I made you so upset. Nothing frightens people more than the truth.
But you know what, laugh a little, and that horrible bitterness will go away very fast. It happens to everyone once in a while.
系。
【在 e*********e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 这位不是著名反外F自己外F男吗?
: 前天说外男低贱,昨天说外女高贵
: 今天为什么约会以外男为标杆呢?
: 此外你的理论也比较搞笑,不知道你的圈子怎么样,是不是一圈人坐地下室边吸大麻边
: 打游戏边谈女人的?
: 我老公算1.5代,小学以上都是在美国念的,朋友里大多数也是美国本地人,我给他念
: 了一下你说的,他说除了3次上床
: 论其他没有听说过。3次上床和是否信教,两人来不来电有关。和请不请吃饭没有关系。
: 以下是他说的:
: Traditionally men paid for dates. Now it is more common for couples to
e*e
66 楼
sigh
这位兄弟,我一个已婚大妈怕什么约会付饭钱啊。还truth frightens me blah blah
blah~问题是你说的是不是truth?
我只是看到你说的不付饭钱就要上床吓了一跳,心想我来美国不长不短,是不是不知道
这个习俗,当初让老公白付了那么多
饭钱。想着老公也算这里长大的,赶快问一下,得到上述回答。说没有不付饭钱就上床
一说。这两个是彼此独立的。
您YY一下就算了,拿出来当作风俗就不对了。
to
go
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Well. I don't know why you got so upset. I guess random name calling does nothing but show your personality also. All everybody see is that you lost it and started bashing around like a crazy woman.
: 3次上床论 is the key. This entire thing became a problem because Chinese women don't know about the 3次上床论.
: As of me, I don't think I have the obligation to explain my private life to you in detail. All I can say is that it's no different than any other educated young guy in America. We go to bars, we go rock climbing, and we go skiing; there are men in our group, and there are women; we are from all different places , and we all hold respectable jobs. But most of all, we like people who have a sense of humor and are not afraid of telling the truth.
: I guess this is why I made you so upset. Nothing frightens people more than the truth.
: But you know what, laugh a little, and that horrible bitterness will go away very fast. It happens to everyone once in a while.
:
: 系。
这位兄弟,我一个已婚大妈怕什么约会付饭钱啊。还truth frightens me blah blah
blah~问题是你说的是不是truth?
我只是看到你说的不付饭钱就要上床吓了一跳,心想我来美国不长不短,是不是不知道
这个习俗,当初让老公白付了那么多
饭钱。想着老公也算这里长大的,赶快问一下,得到上述回答。说没有不付饭钱就上床
一说。这两个是彼此独立的。
您YY一下就算了,拿出来当作风俗就不对了。
to
go
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Well. I don't know why you got so upset. I guess random name calling does nothing but show your personality also. All everybody see is that you lost it and started bashing around like a crazy woman.
: 3次上床论 is the key. This entire thing became a problem because Chinese women don't know about the 3次上床论.
: As of me, I don't think I have the obligation to explain my private life to you in detail. All I can say is that it's no different than any other educated young guy in America. We go to bars, we go rock climbing, and we go skiing; there are men in our group, and there are women; we are from all different places , and we all hold respectable jobs. But most of all, we like people who have a sense of humor and are not afraid of telling the truth.
: I guess this is why I made you so upset. Nothing frightens people more than the truth.
: But you know what, laugh a little, and that horrible bitterness will go away very fast. It happens to everyone once in a while.
:
: 系。
c*d
67 楼
从第2点开始,很多人都要偷笑了
be
bitch
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Let me tell you how dating works in the US.
: 1. Guys must pay for the first date.
: 2. If after that the girl let the guy pay for dinners, sex is expected to be
: the return. It usually happens after no more than 3 dates.
: 3. If the girl doesn't want to have sex so early in the relationship, then
: she should definitely make sure that they are paying the equal share.
: 4. If a girl keeps getting free dinner yet doesn't offer the guy sex in
: return, after 3 dates, the relationship is over and she's officially a bitch
: . Everyone the guy knows will know and no one heard about the story will
: ever ask her out again.
be
bitch
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Let me tell you how dating works in the US.
: 1. Guys must pay for the first date.
: 2. If after that the girl let the guy pay for dinners, sex is expected to be
: the return. It usually happens after no more than 3 dates.
: 3. If the girl doesn't want to have sex so early in the relationship, then
: she should definitely make sure that they are paying the equal share.
: 4. If a girl keeps getting free dinner yet doesn't offer the guy sex in
: return, after 3 dates, the relationship is over and she's officially a bitch
: . Everyone the guy knows will know and no one heard about the story will
: ever ask her out again.
e*e
71 楼
我也没有upset。
因为确定了LD没听说过女方不想上床就自付dinner一说,我还不放心。因为每个人圈子
也就那么大。同一个行业不同部分
不同时代听说过的还不一样呢。就去google了一下你的发言,看看是不是世外高人生活
在女人约会不上床就自付饭钱的美
好世界里。不google不知道,原来是反外F人士,结果自己有外国女友,约会还以外国
男人为标准,所以觉得非常逗。
nothing but show your
personality also. All everybody see is that you lost it and started bashing
around like a crazy woman.
women don't know about the 3次上
床论.
to you in detail. All I can say is that it's
no different than any other educated young guy in America. We go to bars, we
go rock climbing, and we go
skiing; there are men in our group, and there are women; we are from all
different places , and we all hold
respectable jobs. But most of all, we like people who have a sense of humor
and are not afraid of telling the
truth.
than the truth.
away very fast. It happens to everyone
once in a while.
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Well. I don't know why you got so upset. I guess random name calling does nothing but show your personality also. All everybody see is that you lost it and started bashing around like a crazy woman.
: 3次上床论 is the key. This entire thing became a problem because Chinese women don't know about the 3次上床论.
: As of me, I don't think I have the obligation to explain my private life to you in detail. All I can say is that it's no different than any other educated young guy in America. We go to bars, we go rock climbing, and we go skiing; there are men in our group, and there are women; we are from all different places , and we all hold respectable jobs. But most of all, we like people who have a sense of humor and are not afraid of telling the truth.
: I guess this is why I made you so upset. Nothing frightens people more than the truth.
: But you know what, laugh a little, and that horrible bitterness will go away very fast. It happens to everyone once in a while.
:
: 系。
因为确定了LD没听说过女方不想上床就自付dinner一说,我还不放心。因为每个人圈子
也就那么大。同一个行业不同部分
不同时代听说过的还不一样呢。就去google了一下你的发言,看看是不是世外高人生活
在女人约会不上床就自付饭钱的美
好世界里。不google不知道,原来是反外F人士,结果自己有外国女友,约会还以外国
男人为标准,所以觉得非常逗。
nothing but show your
personality also. All everybody see is that you lost it and started bashing
around like a crazy woman.
women don't know about the 3次上
床论.
to you in detail. All I can say is that it's
no different than any other educated young guy in America. We go to bars, we
go rock climbing, and we go
skiing; there are men in our group, and there are women; we are from all
different places , and we all hold
respectable jobs. But most of all, we like people who have a sense of humor
and are not afraid of telling the
truth.
than the truth.
away very fast. It happens to everyone
once in a while.
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Well. I don't know why you got so upset. I guess random name calling does nothing but show your personality also. All everybody see is that you lost it and started bashing around like a crazy woman.
: 3次上床论 is the key. This entire thing became a problem because Chinese women don't know about the 3次上床论.
: As of me, I don't think I have the obligation to explain my private life to you in detail. All I can say is that it's no different than any other educated young guy in America. We go to bars, we go rock climbing, and we go skiing; there are men in our group, and there are women; we are from all different places , and we all hold respectable jobs. But most of all, we like people who have a sense of humor and are not afraid of telling the truth.
: I guess this is why I made you so upset. Nothing frightens people more than the truth.
: But you know what, laugh a little, and that horrible bitterness will go away very fast. It happens to everyone once in a while.
:
: 系。
x*g
72 楼
如此有组织有秩序地,有理论有经验地,有中国传统有跨国比较地系统讨论吃饭付费问
题,我很惊讶。当然,这比讨论网恋电话恋已经前进了一大步,毕竟双方当事人终于排
除种种阻碍胜利会师了,见面了。
会师后,革命能否胜利?一句话,两情相悦最重要。喜欢就挑明付出。不喜欢也挑明,
别玩暧昧,双方当事人都可以开心找下家。
有一个老兄,和认识不久的女友吃饭,女友不点贵的,老兄立马认定她。两人如今幸福
生活在一起。
题,我很惊讶。当然,这比讨论网恋电话恋已经前进了一大步,毕竟双方当事人终于排
除种种阻碍胜利会师了,见面了。
会师后,革命能否胜利?一句话,两情相悦最重要。喜欢就挑明付出。不喜欢也挑明,
别玩暧昧,双方当事人都可以开心找下家。
有一个老兄,和认识不久的女友吃饭,女友不点贵的,老兄立马认定她。两人如今幸福
生活在一起。
C*M
79 楼
这个可以转joke版了
3次上床论前提是找一夜情的,casual dates, hookup, fxxk buddy, friends with
benefits,都不是认真的关系。鹊桥女孩子大概没有在找这种关系的吧。
事实是,世界各地风俗都一样。如果一个男人喜欢你想跟你长期发展,那他会respect
your boundaries and wait for you to be ready.
be
bitch
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Let me tell you how dating works in the US.
: 1. Guys must pay for the first date.
: 2. If after that the girl let the guy pay for dinners, sex is expected to be
: the return. It usually happens after no more than 3 dates.
: 3. If the girl doesn't want to have sex so early in the relationship, then
: she should definitely make sure that they are paying the equal share.
: 4. If a girl keeps getting free dinner yet doesn't offer the guy sex in
: return, after 3 dates, the relationship is over and she's officially a bitch
: . Everyone the guy knows will know and no one heard about the story will
: ever ask her out again.
3次上床论前提是找一夜情的,casual dates, hookup, fxxk buddy, friends with
benefits,都不是认真的关系。鹊桥女孩子大概没有在找这种关系的吧。
事实是,世界各地风俗都一样。如果一个男人喜欢你想跟你长期发展,那他会respect
your boundaries and wait for you to be ready.
be
bitch
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Let me tell you how dating works in the US.
: 1. Guys must pay for the first date.
: 2. If after that the girl let the guy pay for dinners, sex is expected to be
: the return. It usually happens after no more than 3 dates.
: 3. If the girl doesn't want to have sex so early in the relationship, then
: she should definitely make sure that they are paying the equal share.
: 4. If a girl keeps getting free dinner yet doesn't offer the guy sex in
: return, after 3 dates, the relationship is over and she's officially a bitch
: . Everyone the guy knows will know and no one heard about the story will
: ever ask her out again.
i*n
80 楼
你说的这些是美国文化中的谈恋爱吧。这个版上找对象的,99%是想找中国人,所以三
次论就不太合适在这边用了。
nothing but show your personality also. All everybody see is that you lost
it and started bashing around like a crazy woman.
women don't know about the 3次上床论.
to you in detail. All I can say is that it's no different than any other
educated young guy in America. We go to bars, we go rock climbing, and we go
skiing; there are men in our group, and there are women; we are from all
different places , and we all hold respectable jobs. But most of all, we
like people who have a sense of humor and are not afraid of telling the
truth.
than the truth.
away very fast. It happens to everyone once in a while.
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Well. I don't know why you got so upset. I guess random name calling does nothing but show your personality also. All everybody see is that you lost it and started bashing around like a crazy woman.
: 3次上床论 is the key. This entire thing became a problem because Chinese women don't know about the 3次上床论.
: As of me, I don't think I have the obligation to explain my private life to you in detail. All I can say is that it's no different than any other educated young guy in America. We go to bars, we go rock climbing, and we go skiing; there are men in our group, and there are women; we are from all different places , and we all hold respectable jobs. But most of all, we like people who have a sense of humor and are not afraid of telling the truth.
: I guess this is why I made you so upset. Nothing frightens people more than the truth.
: But you know what, laugh a little, and that horrible bitterness will go away very fast. It happens to everyone once in a while.
:
: 系。
次论就不太合适在这边用了。
nothing but show your personality also. All everybody see is that you lost
it and started bashing around like a crazy woman.
women don't know about the 3次上床论.
to you in detail. All I can say is that it's no different than any other
educated young guy in America. We go to bars, we go rock climbing, and we go
skiing; there are men in our group, and there are women; we are from all
different places , and we all hold respectable jobs. But most of all, we
like people who have a sense of humor and are not afraid of telling the
truth.
than the truth.
away very fast. It happens to everyone once in a while.
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Well. I don't know why you got so upset. I guess random name calling does nothing but show your personality also. All everybody see is that you lost it and started bashing around like a crazy woman.
: 3次上床论 is the key. This entire thing became a problem because Chinese women don't know about the 3次上床论.
: As of me, I don't think I have the obligation to explain my private life to you in detail. All I can say is that it's no different than any other educated young guy in America. We go to bars, we go rock climbing, and we go skiing; there are men in our group, and there are women; we are from all different places , and we all hold respectable jobs. But most of all, we like people who have a sense of humor and are not afraid of telling the truth.
: I guess this is why I made you so upset. Nothing frightens people more than the truth.
: But you know what, laugh a little, and that horrible bitterness will go away very fast. It happens to everyone once in a while.
:
: 系。
a*y
82 楼
文化这种东西,说到底还是个讨价还价之后形成的均衡价格,最多做个参考。
落实到每次的具体关系,成交价还得从头谈起。
go
【在 i*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 你说的这些是美国文化中的谈恋爱吧。这个版上找对象的,99%是想找中国人,所以三
: 次论就不太合适在这边用了。
:
: nothing but show your personality also. All everybody see is that you lost
: it and started bashing around like a crazy woman.
: women don't know about the 3次上床论.
: to you in detail. All I can say is that it's no different than any other
: educated young guy in America. We go to bars, we go rock climbing, and we go
: skiing; there are men in our group, and there are women; we are from all
: different places , and we all hold respectable jobs. But most of all, we
落实到每次的具体关系,成交价还得从头谈起。
go
【在 i*****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 你说的这些是美国文化中的谈恋爱吧。这个版上找对象的,99%是想找中国人,所以三
: 次论就不太合适在这边用了。
:
: nothing but show your personality also. All everybody see is that you lost
: it and started bashing around like a crazy woman.
: women don't know about the 3次上床论.
: to you in detail. All I can say is that it's no different than any other
: educated young guy in America. We go to bars, we go rock climbing, and we go
: skiing; there are men in our group, and there are women; we are from all
: different places , and we all hold respectable jobs. But most of all, we
a*y
83 楼
发信人: ChocolateMM (巧克力), 信区: Piebridge
标 题: 还用讨论吗? 谈恋爱当然是男的出钱
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun May 1 20:39:36 2011, 美东)
已婚多年的大妈是out了吗? 如果两人是确定关系的男女朋友,恋爱中的基本花费,吃
个饭看个电影逛个街当然是男朋友出钱。20年前就是这规矩。大妈和大妈的女朋友们都
是这样恋爱过来的。如果大妈没有搞错,现在国内年轻人也是这样办的。
当然假设的是互相喜欢,在谈男女朋友。我想也不会有人就为了骗饭吧。即使有,男的
也应该有最起码的判断力,没有的话不在我讨论范围。
这是男的最基本的爱意,女的衡量对方最基本的试金石。高质量的女孩子肯定是不会同
意AA的。女孩子心里有数,适当的时候会回报男朋友。为什么谁付钱在这里还用得着讨
论。
标 题: 还用讨论吗? 谈恋爱当然是男的出钱
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun May 1 20:39:36 2011, 美东)
已婚多年的大妈是out了吗? 如果两人是确定关系的男女朋友,恋爱中的基本花费,吃
个饭看个电影逛个街当然是男朋友出钱。20年前就是这规矩。大妈和大妈的女朋友们都
是这样恋爱过来的。如果大妈没有搞错,现在国内年轻人也是这样办的。
当然假设的是互相喜欢,在谈男女朋友。我想也不会有人就为了骗饭吧。即使有,男的
也应该有最起码的判断力,没有的话不在我讨论范围。
这是男的最基本的爱意,女的衡量对方最基本的试金石。高质量的女孩子肯定是不会同
意AA的。女孩子心里有数,适当的时候会回报男朋友。为什么谁付钱在这里还用得着讨
论。
c*d
84 楼
那是女人看男人,跟男人看女人没啥关系吧。我想男人只有对这个女孩有感觉才会越出
来吃饭。如果对方你本身喜欢,还在乎第一顿的饭钱?约会3次,你也该看得出那个女
孩到底对你有没有意思了亚,没意思的话,可以直接撤了,也就3顿饭钱。
不过后来我也说了,确定关系后,通常是两人你付点,我付点。
【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 发信人: ChocolateMM (巧克力), 信区: Piebridge
: 标 题: 还用讨论吗? 谈恋爱当然是男的出钱
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun May 1 20:39:36 2011, 美东)
: 已婚多年的大妈是out了吗? 如果两人是确定关系的男女朋友,恋爱中的基本花费,吃
: 个饭看个电影逛个街当然是男朋友出钱。20年前就是这规矩。大妈和大妈的女朋友们都
: 是这样恋爱过来的。如果大妈没有搞错,现在国内年轻人也是这样办的。
: 当然假设的是互相喜欢,在谈男女朋友。我想也不会有人就为了骗饭吧。即使有,男的
: 也应该有最起码的判断力,没有的话不在我讨论范围。
: 这是男的最基本的爱意,女的衡量对方最基本的试金石。高质量的女孩子肯定是不会同
: 意AA的。女孩子心里有数,适当的时候会回报男朋友。为什么谁付钱在这里还用得着讨
来吃饭。如果对方你本身喜欢,还在乎第一顿的饭钱?约会3次,你也该看得出那个女
孩到底对你有没有意思了亚,没意思的话,可以直接撤了,也就3顿饭钱。
不过后来我也说了,确定关系后,通常是两人你付点,我付点。
【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 发信人: ChocolateMM (巧克力), 信区: Piebridge
: 标 题: 还用讨论吗? 谈恋爱当然是男的出钱
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun May 1 20:39:36 2011, 美东)
: 已婚多年的大妈是out了吗? 如果两人是确定关系的男女朋友,恋爱中的基本花费,吃
: 个饭看个电影逛个街当然是男朋友出钱。20年前就是这规矩。大妈和大妈的女朋友们都
: 是这样恋爱过来的。如果大妈没有搞错,现在国内年轻人也是这样办的。
: 当然假设的是互相喜欢,在谈男女朋友。我想也不会有人就为了骗饭吧。即使有,男的
: 也应该有最起码的判断力,没有的话不在我讨论范围。
: 这是男的最基本的爱意,女的衡量对方最基本的试金石。高质量的女孩子肯定是不会同
: 意AA的。女孩子心里有数,适当的时候会回报男朋友。为什么谁付钱在这里还用得着讨
A*r
87 楼
大部分女生没意思就不会再接着去跟别人吃饭了吧。肯花时间和精力去跟男生吃饭,显
然是有意思的。不可能,自然就撤了。跟自己已然知道绝对不喜欢的男人吃饭那也挺痛
苦的,不管谁出钱。呵呵。而且这都什么年头了,饭才几个钱,还至于蹭饭。有钱的,
可以上高级馆子;没钱的,请吃个pizza或者三菜一汤的便当。正常情况,女人愿意让
你花钱,那至少还是有机会的。计较个啥啊。
至于上床,属于水到渠成的事情,男欢女爱是自然而然的事情,跟请不请吃饭无关啊。
男人么,当然要大大方方别斤斤计较。女人,只要爱上你,就自然会对你好得不得了。
反正,跟我谈恋爱的人都挺赚的,我属于穷大方的,而且恨不得把天下所有的好东西都
给我爱的人。
【在 c*******d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 那是女人看男人,跟男人看女人没啥关系吧。我想男人只有对这个女孩有感觉才会越出
: 来吃饭。如果对方你本身喜欢,还在乎第一顿的饭钱?约会3次,你也该看得出那个女
: 孩到底对你有没有意思了亚,没意思的话,可以直接撤了,也就3顿饭钱。
: 不过后来我也说了,确定关系后,通常是两人你付点,我付点。
然是有意思的。不可能,自然就撤了。跟自己已然知道绝对不喜欢的男人吃饭那也挺痛
苦的,不管谁出钱。呵呵。而且这都什么年头了,饭才几个钱,还至于蹭饭。有钱的,
可以上高级馆子;没钱的,请吃个pizza或者三菜一汤的便当。正常情况,女人愿意让
你花钱,那至少还是有机会的。计较个啥啊。
至于上床,属于水到渠成的事情,男欢女爱是自然而然的事情,跟请不请吃饭无关啊。
男人么,当然要大大方方别斤斤计较。女人,只要爱上你,就自然会对你好得不得了。
反正,跟我谈恋爱的人都挺赚的,我属于穷大方的,而且恨不得把天下所有的好东西都
给我爱的人。
【在 c*******d 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 那是女人看男人,跟男人看女人没啥关系吧。我想男人只有对这个女孩有感觉才会越出
: 来吃饭。如果对方你本身喜欢,还在乎第一顿的饭钱?约会3次,你也该看得出那个女
: 孩到底对你有没有意思了亚,没意思的话,可以直接撤了,也就3顿饭钱。
: 不过后来我也说了,确定关系后,通常是两人你付点,我付点。
G*n
88 楼
This is true. However, doesn't the same apply to "men have to pay all the
time"? Because American men who paid all the time got sex in return all the
time. The only reason I brought up how dating works in America is because
you mentioned that men pay for dates before settling down the relationship
in America. And all I wanted to say is that they pay because they get
something back in return.
Personally I just think that it's important to have an equal and mutual
relationship regardless of which culture you come from. Of course the guy
should pay for the first date since he asked the girl out. But after that
the girl should carefully weigh her decisions on where she thinks it's going
and how she should act according to that decision. It's not some kind of
complex social dogma but rather common sense for a decent human being.
What is really shocking is that some people don't even have the slightest
decency of trying to be moral and respectable. They see something the don't
understand, the first thing they do is jump up like a sociopath and bashing
people. This behavior is very unsettling.
go
【在 i*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 你说的这些是美国文化中的谈恋爱吧。这个版上找对象的,99%是想找中国人,所以三
: 次论就不太合适在这边用了。
:
: nothing but show your personality also. All everybody see is that you lost
: it and started bashing around like a crazy woman.
: women don't know about the 3次上床论.
: to you in detail. All I can say is that it's no different than any other
: educated young guy in America. We go to bars, we go rock climbing, and we go
: skiing; there are men in our group, and there are women; we are from all
: different places , and we all hold respectable jobs. But most of all, we
time"? Because American men who paid all the time got sex in return all the
time. The only reason I brought up how dating works in America is because
you mentioned that men pay for dates before settling down the relationship
in America. And all I wanted to say is that they pay because they get
something back in return.
Personally I just think that it's important to have an equal and mutual
relationship regardless of which culture you come from. Of course the guy
should pay for the first date since he asked the girl out. But after that
the girl should carefully weigh her decisions on where she thinks it's going
and how she should act according to that decision. It's not some kind of
complex social dogma but rather common sense for a decent human being.
What is really shocking is that some people don't even have the slightest
decency of trying to be moral and respectable. They see something the don't
understand, the first thing they do is jump up like a sociopath and bashing
people. This behavior is very unsettling.
go
【在 i*****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 你说的这些是美国文化中的谈恋爱吧。这个版上找对象的,99%是想找中国人,所以三
: 次论就不太合适在这边用了。
:
: nothing but show your personality also. All everybody see is that you lost
: it and started bashing around like a crazy woman.
: women don't know about the 3次上床论.
: to you in detail. All I can say is that it's no different than any other
: educated young guy in America. We go to bars, we go rock climbing, and we go
: skiing; there are men in our group, and there are women; we are from all
: different places , and we all hold respectable jobs. But most of all, we
i*n
91 楼
不好意思啊,我说的那些,也是以前我问了组里的美国同事的(男女同事一起聊天时问
的)
实际操作中我也不太清楚,不过我所在州比较保守,思想没那么奔放吧
the
going
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: This is true. However, doesn't the same apply to "men have to pay all the
: time"? Because American men who paid all the time got sex in return all the
: time. The only reason I brought up how dating works in America is because
: you mentioned that men pay for dates before settling down the relationship
: in America. And all I wanted to say is that they pay because they get
: something back in return.
: Personally I just think that it's important to have an equal and mutual
: relationship regardless of which culture you come from. Of course the guy
: should pay for the first date since he asked the girl out. But after that
: the girl should carefully weigh her decisions on where she thinks it's going
的)
实际操作中我也不太清楚,不过我所在州比较保守,思想没那么奔放吧
the
going
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: This is true. However, doesn't the same apply to "men have to pay all the
: time"? Because American men who paid all the time got sex in return all the
: time. The only reason I brought up how dating works in America is because
: you mentioned that men pay for dates before settling down the relationship
: in America. And all I wanted to say is that they pay because they get
: something back in return.
: Personally I just think that it's important to have an equal and mutual
: relationship regardless of which culture you come from. Of course the guy
: should pay for the first date since he asked the girl out. But after that
: the girl should carefully weigh her decisions on where she thinks it's going
A*r
92 楼
这个所谓老美三个date就上床的也是传说。我一个好朋友就找了个老美,她们date了好
几个月以后决定变成男女朋友。我朋友说她不接受婚前有sex,看那个男生能不能接受
,不能接受的话,也就只能忍痛分手。那个男生想了一天之后答应了。几个月之后,我
朋友就妥协了,呵呵。再后来,她们就一起同居了。两年之后的上个月,他求婚了。
几个月以后决定变成男女朋友。我朋友说她不接受婚前有sex,看那个男生能不能接受
,不能接受的话,也就只能忍痛分手。那个男生想了一天之后答应了。几个月之后,我
朋友就妥协了,呵呵。再后来,她们就一起同居了。两年之后的上个月,他求婚了。
A*r
94 楼
I think the idea of getting sex in return for the dinner is insanely
ridiculous. I have sex with someone because I want to not because he buys me
dinner.
the
going
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: This is true. However, doesn't the same apply to "men have to pay all the
: time"? Because American men who paid all the time got sex in return all the
: time. The only reason I brought up how dating works in America is because
: you mentioned that men pay for dates before settling down the relationship
: in America. And all I wanted to say is that they pay because they get
: something back in return.
: Personally I just think that it's important to have an equal and mutual
: relationship regardless of which culture you come from. Of course the guy
: should pay for the first date since he asked the girl out. But after that
: the girl should carefully weigh her decisions on where she thinks it's going
ridiculous. I have sex with someone because I want to not because he buys me
dinner.
the
going
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: This is true. However, doesn't the same apply to "men have to pay all the
: time"? Because American men who paid all the time got sex in return all the
: time. The only reason I brought up how dating works in America is because
: you mentioned that men pay for dates before settling down the relationship
: in America. And all I wanted to say is that they pay because they get
: something back in return.
: Personally I just think that it's important to have an equal and mutual
: relationship regardless of which culture you come from. Of course the guy
: should pay for the first date since he asked the girl out. But after that
: the girl should carefully weigh her decisions on where she thinks it's going
e*e
96 楼
搞笑。您的意思是付饭钱理所应当期待性?
你父母约会的时候谁付?或者谁付得更多一点?如果女方不付是否要上床?你上大学的
时候呢?宿舍兄弟里面约会是男方付还是女方付?
中美区别是传统上,中国男人约会付饭钱,婚前无性,但是很快就结婚了。付几顿饭钱
也没有什么。美国人约会婚前性,结婚也慢,约会几年也不结婚的,约会费用就是个问
题。现在国内也和美国类似了,但是基本还是男方付的。
我父母要求我约会AA,所以在和任何人确立关系以前我都是争取AA。领导和我认识的大
部分时间我是学生,所以确定关系以后领导坚持,也就一直让他付。婚后户头联名。当然,让他付的时候就把他当作结
婚对象了。如果我们没有结婚而是分手,而且是我提出分手,我肯定会主动写个支票或者送个相应价值的礼物,比如名
表什么的。
我想说的是,女方应该争取承担自己的义务,但是男人想着付饭钱就应该上床也ws了一点。你可以说这个是dating
culture(是不是culture还有争议呢),因为既然不结婚,找*友,投入产出比还是很值得计算的。但一个打算和一个
女人结婚的男人,根本不计成本,也不在乎早上床,更期望对方保守。
当然,打着恋爱旗号骗吃骗喝的也很值得讨伐。没有到结婚对象的一步,经济上不要有纠葛。
the
going
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: This is true. However, doesn't the same apply to "men have to pay all the
: time"? Because American men who paid all the time got sex in return all the
: time. The only reason I brought up how dating works in America is because
: you mentioned that men pay for dates before settling down the relationship
: in America. And all I wanted to say is that they pay because they get
: something back in return.
: Personally I just think that it's important to have an equal and mutual
: relationship regardless of which culture you come from. Of course the guy
: should pay for the first date since he asked the girl out. But after that
: the girl should carefully weigh her decisions on where she thinks it's going
你父母约会的时候谁付?或者谁付得更多一点?如果女方不付是否要上床?你上大学的
时候呢?宿舍兄弟里面约会是男方付还是女方付?
中美区别是传统上,中国男人约会付饭钱,婚前无性,但是很快就结婚了。付几顿饭钱
也没有什么。美国人约会婚前性,结婚也慢,约会几年也不结婚的,约会费用就是个问
题。现在国内也和美国类似了,但是基本还是男方付的。
我父母要求我约会AA,所以在和任何人确立关系以前我都是争取AA。领导和我认识的大
部分时间我是学生,所以确定关系以后领导坚持,也就一直让他付。婚后户头联名。当然,让他付的时候就把他当作结
婚对象了。如果我们没有结婚而是分手,而且是我提出分手,我肯定会主动写个支票或者送个相应价值的礼物,比如名
表什么的。
我想说的是,女方应该争取承担自己的义务,但是男人想着付饭钱就应该上床也ws了一点。你可以说这个是dating
culture(是不是culture还有争议呢),因为既然不结婚,找*友,投入产出比还是很值得计算的。但一个打算和一个
女人结婚的男人,根本不计成本,也不在乎早上床,更期望对方保守。
当然,打着恋爱旗号骗吃骗喝的也很值得讨伐。没有到结婚对象的一步,经济上不要有纠葛。
the
going
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: This is true. However, doesn't the same apply to "men have to pay all the
: time"? Because American men who paid all the time got sex in return all the
: time. The only reason I brought up how dating works in America is because
: you mentioned that men pay for dates before settling down the relationship
: in America. And all I wanted to say is that they pay because they get
: something back in return.
: Personally I just think that it's important to have an equal and mutual
: relationship regardless of which culture you come from. Of course the guy
: should pay for the first date since he asked the girl out. But after that
: the girl should carefully weigh her decisions on where she thinks it's going
S*f
97 楼
为吃个饭谁付钱争来争去的
都是不够爱罢了
其实真的相爱
自己多付出点
无论是财力还是其他方面
都不会介意的
都是不够爱罢了
其实真的相爱
自己多付出点
无论是财力还是其他方面
都不会介意的
y*t
98 楼
同意,谈谈看的时候,别去特贵的地方。 男的要表现大方的话,就别背地里抱怨。 女
方没兴趣的话,
也别专点贵的。 双方都没兴趣,就AA,不伤和气。
【在 i*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得是这边美女稀少,所以大部分男的追女生时都是一种谈谈看的心态,谈不成也无
: 所谓。女的呢,可能大部分恋爱经验少,看以前大学里美女谈恋爱都是男的付账,以为
: 这边谈恋爱也是男的付账,所以就弄成这样。。。
: 所以我建议还是成立一个第一次约会行为规范,如果男的特喜欢这女的,账单送上来就
: 抢着付账,如果一般喜欢,男的就别去动账单,女方看男的没反应,就知道男方的意思
: 仅仅是谈谈看,那女方就顺势提出AA,以后要不要继续约会,看双方心情。
: 鉴于第一次是AA,所以不要去太贵的地方,免得双方A完都觉得浪费饭钱。可以去
: buffet,便宜,还能吃多点,就算没谈成对象,饱餐一顿也不亏了。
方没兴趣的话,
也别专点贵的。 双方都没兴趣,就AA,不伤和气。
【在 i*****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 我觉得是这边美女稀少,所以大部分男的追女生时都是一种谈谈看的心态,谈不成也无
: 所谓。女的呢,可能大部分恋爱经验少,看以前大学里美女谈恋爱都是男的付账,以为
: 这边谈恋爱也是男的付账,所以就弄成这样。。。
: 所以我建议还是成立一个第一次约会行为规范,如果男的特喜欢这女的,账单送上来就
: 抢着付账,如果一般喜欢,男的就别去动账单,女方看男的没反应,就知道男方的意思
: 仅仅是谈谈看,那女方就顺势提出AA,以后要不要继续约会,看双方心情。
: 鉴于第一次是AA,所以不要去太贵的地方,免得双方A完都觉得浪费饭钱。可以去
: buffet,便宜,还能吃多点,就算没谈成对象,饱餐一顿也不亏了。
u*e
99 楼
be
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
男人怎么老是这么WS呢,三顿饭钱就想着上床的事情。把别人也想得太cheap了吧
bitch
【在 G*****n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Let me tell you how dating works in the US.
: 1. Guys must pay for the first date.
: 2. If after that the girl let the guy pay for dinners, sex is expected to be
: the return. It usually happens after no more than 3 dates.
: 3. If the girl doesn't want to have sex so early in the relationship, then
: she should definitely make sure that they are paying the equal share.
: 4. If a girl keeps getting free dinner yet doesn't offer the guy sex in
: return, after 3 dates, the relationship is over and she's officially a bitch
: . Everyone the guy knows will know and no one heard about the story will
: ever ask her out again.
a*l
102 楼
不会吧。
现在规矩都改了,呵呵。
【在 C*********M 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 已婚多年的大妈是out了吗? 如果两人是确定关系的男女朋友,恋爱中的基本花费,吃
: 个饭看个电影逛个街当然是男朋友出钱。20年前就是这规矩。大妈和大妈的女朋友们都
: 是这样恋爱过来的。如果大妈没有搞错,现在国内年轻人也是这样办的。
: 当然假设的是互相喜欢,在谈男女朋友。我想也不会有人就为了骗饭吧。即使有,男的
: 也应该有最起码的判断力,没有的话不在我讨论范围。
: 这是男的最基本的爱意,女的衡量对方最基本的试金石。高质量的女孩子肯定是不会同
: 意AA的。女孩子心里有数,适当的时候会回报男朋友。为什么谁付钱在这里还用得着讨
: 论。
现在规矩都改了,呵呵。
【在 C*********M 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: 已婚多年的大妈是out了吗? 如果两人是确定关系的男女朋友,恋爱中的基本花费,吃
: 个饭看个电影逛个街当然是男朋友出钱。20年前就是这规矩。大妈和大妈的女朋友们都
: 是这样恋爱过来的。如果大妈没有搞错,现在国内年轻人也是这样办的。
: 当然假设的是互相喜欢,在谈男女朋友。我想也不会有人就为了骗饭吧。即使有,男的
: 也应该有最起码的判断力,没有的话不在我讨论范围。
: 这是男的最基本的爱意,女的衡量对方最基本的试金石。高质量的女孩子肯定是不会同
: 意AA的。女孩子心里有数,适当的时候会回报男朋友。为什么谁付钱在这里还用得着讨
: 论。
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