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y*t2013-01-26 08:01

1 楼

lopt现在又来开始晃点无知的人了.
都辩过多少回的东西.
要不要脸.
等到全民共产医疗没钱了,给你一棵自杀药丸的时候.
你连选择都没有了.
别怪我老人家没告诉你.
The 64-year-old Oregon woman, whose lung cancer had been in remission,
learned the disease had returned and would likely kill her. Her last hope
was a $4,000-a-month drug that her doctor prescribed for her, but the
insurance company refused to pay.
What the Oregon Health Plan did agree to cover, however, were drugs for a
physician-assisted death. Those drugs would cost about $50.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1

l*n2013-01-26 08:01

2 楼

lz照片拿出来
大家也好祝福一下嘛，哈哈

y*t2013-01-26 08:01

3 楼

obamacare运行起来到破产,我估计不会超过二十年.
大家自己算日子吧.

【在 y****t 的大作中提到】

: lopt现在又来开始晃点无知的人了.
: 都辩过多少回的东西.
: 要不要脸.
: 等到全民共产医疗没钱了,给你一棵自杀药丸的时候.
: 你连选择都没有了.
: 别怪我老人家没告诉你.
: The 64-year-old Oregon woman, whose lung cancer had been in remission,
: learned the disease had returned and would likely kill her. Her last hope
: was a $4,000-a-month drug that her doctor prescribed for her, but the
: insurance company refused to pay.

s*x2013-01-26 08:01

4 楼

共产医疗当然有很多弊端，但不共产医疗肯定弊端更多。
有些东西是不能资本化，资本的目的是赚钱，疯狂的赚钱，像吸血鬼一样的吸钱。离奇
的医疗费用自然就不可避免了。
教育也没有资本化，中国走了弯路，现在又回归了。
医疗显然应该跟教育一样，走以共产为主，私有辅助的道路。
你说的这种病，就是现有的医疗也不会完全 cover， as far as I know, every
insurance has a max yearly limit, it is high though in several milion $
range.

y*t2013-01-26 08:01

5 楼

现在,私人保险公司要是不cover,还可以向政府complain.政府来施压.
这就是我说的,check and balance.
一但全面共产政府化了,
或者全面帝国主义化,无政府了.
sheeple就真没活路了.

【在 s**x 的大作中提到】

: 共产医疗当然有很多弊端，但不共产医疗肯定弊端更多。
: 有些东西是不能资本化，资本的目的是赚钱，疯狂的赚钱，像吸血鬼一样的吸钱。离奇
: 的医疗费用自然就不可避免了。
: 教育也没有资本化，中国走了弯路，现在又回归了。
: 医疗显然应该跟教育一样，走以共产为主，私有辅助的道路。
: 你说的这种病，就是现有的医疗也不会完全 cover， as far as I know, every
: insurance has a max yearly limit, it is high though in several milion $
: range.

l*c2013-01-26 08:01

6 楼

I don't think you have medical insurance now,
So, I don't know why you attack obama care

【在 y****t 的大作中提到】

: lopt现在又来开始晃点无知的人了.
: 都辩过多少回的东西.
: 要不要脸.
: 等到全民共产医疗没钱了,给你一棵自杀药丸的时候.
: 你连选择都没有了.
: 别怪我老人家没告诉你.
: The 64-year-old Oregon woman, whose lung cancer had been in remission,
: learned the disease had returned and would likely kill her. Her last hope
: was a $4,000-a-month drug that her doctor prescribed for her, but the
: insurance company refused to pay.

y*t2013-01-26 08:01

7 楼

i dont think you have a brain.
so, i understand why you attack me.

【在 l******c 的大作中提到】

: I don't think you have medical insurance now,
: So, I don't know why you attack obama care

y*d2013-01-26 08:01

8 楼

Canadian system has been working for many years without bankruptcy, why
obama's plan is a shit?

y*t2013-01-26 08:01

9 楼

哈哈..
突然,小左们现在不提欧洲了...

【在 y*****d 的大作中提到】

: Canadian system has been working for many years without bankruptcy, why
: obama's plan is a shit?

t*n2013-01-26 08:01

10 楼

Because Canadian can cross the border for health care if they don't want to
WAIT for death. Where can you go after obama's plan? Mexico?

【在 y*****d 的大作中提到】

: Canadian system has been working for many years without bankruptcy, why
: obama's plan is a shit?

T*02013-01-26 08:01

11 楼

因为加拿大是用tax money付医疗。美国的tax money都去买炸弹了，所以中产还要再掏
一次腰包，去付穷人的医疗费。

【在 y*****d 的大作中提到】

: Canadian system has been working for many years without bankruptcy, why
: obama's plan is a shit?

y*t2013-01-26 08:01

12 楼

i dont think war has anything to do with this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_

【在 T******0 的大作中提到】

: 因为加拿大是用tax money付医疗。美国的tax money都去买炸弹了，所以中产还要再掏
: 一次腰包，去付穷人的医疗费。

l*c2013-01-26 08:01

13 楼

Can you provide any proof for your medical insurance?
If you wok in the private sector, like msft or google, do not tell us you
have medical insurance.
This has been discussed many times: that kind of faked medical insurance is
provided when you do have any serious sickness. Once you cannot work
overtime because of health problem, you will be fired soon and lose all the
medical insurance.
Yes, if you are a police officers, you have medical insurance.

【在 y****t 的大作中提到】

: i dont think war has anything to do with this.
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_

n*b2013-01-26 08:01

14 楼

please ask your Canadian friends how long they have to wait if they want to
do a MRI/CT scan

【在 y*****d 的大作中提到】

: Canadian system has been working for many years without bankruptcy, why
: obama's plan is a shit?

n*b2013-01-26 08:01

15 楼

come on, when people become too sick to work, they can use FEMA program for
3 months without being fired by their employers.
and many companies extend the group insurance benefit to employees even they
are terminally ill and no longer be able to work.

is
the

【在 l******c 的大作中提到】

: Can you provide any proof for your medical insurance?
: If you wok in the private sector, like msft or google, do not tell us you
: have medical insurance.
: This has been discussed many times: that kind of faked medical insurance is
: provided when you do have any serious sickness. Once you cannot work
: overtime because of health problem, you will be fired soon and lose all the
: medical insurance.
: Yes, if you are a police officers, you have medical insurance.

h*72013-01-26 08:01

16 楼

对于美国目前的医疗状况, 共产医疗算是一种改善吧, 但也好不到哪里去.
个人觉得, 真正的大手术, 就是要用资本主义的猛药来治疗美国的医疗制度 -- 打破垄
断, 强化竞争, 让诊所/药店/药厂和医院遍地开花, 象餐馆/手机店一样开遍大街小巷,
生命有价化, 自生自灭, 各负其责.
这种方法, 能拖得久一些.
不过, 到最后, 过度繁殖+人口老龄化+医疗危机+养老危机, 早晚是会把人类社会压到
一个绝境的, 最终就通过"上帝之手"解决了(主要是靠战争, 外加自然淘汰), 这是很残
酷的, 但是没办法, 不光是 grandma 安乐死了 (那就算是善终了), 大量青壮年人口也
会被人道毁灭.

p*m2013-01-26 08:01

17 楼

u will be dead by then, why do you care

【在 y****t 的大作中提到】

: obamacare运行起来到破产,我估计不会超过二十年.
: 大家自己算日子吧.

y*t2013-01-26 08:01

18 楼

look, i am just a messenger.
why you hate me so much?
lol...

【在 p**m 的大作中提到】

: u will be dead by then, why do you care

g*e2013-01-26 08:01

19 楼

wrong message. Feds contorls the supply side of medicine, it also has the
responsibility/capability to save life.

【在 y****t 的大作中提到】

: look, i am just a messenger.
: why you hate me so much?
: lol...

y*t2013-01-26 08:01

20 楼

lopt现在又来开始晃点无知的人了.
都辩过多少回的东西.
要不要脸.
等到全民共产医疗没钱了,给你一棵自杀药丸的时候.
你连选择都没有了.
别怪我老人家没告诉你.
The 64-year-old Oregon woman, whose lung cancer had been in remission,
learned the disease had returned and would likely kill her. Her last hope
was a $4,000-a-month drug that her doctor prescribed for her, but the
insurance company refused to pay.
What the Oregon Health Plan did agree to cover, however, were drugs for a
physician-assisted death. Those drugs would cost about $50.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1

y*t2013-01-26 08:01

21 楼

obamacare运行起来到破产,我估计不会超过二十年.
大家自己算日子吧.

【在 y****t 的大作中提到】

: lopt现在又来开始晃点无知的人了.
: 都辩过多少回的东西.
: 要不要脸.
: 等到全民共产医疗没钱了,给你一棵自杀药丸的时候.
: 你连选择都没有了.
: 别怪我老人家没告诉你.
: The 64-year-old Oregon woman, whose lung cancer had been in remission,
: learned the disease had returned and would likely kill her. Her last hope
: was a $4,000-a-month drug that her doctor prescribed for her, but the
: insurance company refused to pay.

s*x2013-01-26 08:01

22 楼

共产医疗当然有很多弊端，但不共产医疗肯定弊端更多。
有些东西是不能资本化，资本的目的是赚钱，疯狂的赚钱，像吸血鬼一样的吸钱。离奇
的医疗费用自然就不可避免了。
教育也没有资本化，中国走了弯路，现在又回归了。
医疗显然应该跟教育一样，走以共产为主，私有辅助的道路。
你说的这种病，就是现有的医疗也不会完全 cover， as far as I know, every
insurance has a max yearly limit, it is high though in several milion $
range.

y*t2013-01-26 08:01

23 楼

现在,私人保险公司要是不cover,还可以向政府complain.政府来施压.
这就是我说的,check and balance.
一但全面共产政府化了,
或者全面帝国主义化,无政府了.
sheeple就真没活路了.

【在 s**x 的大作中提到】

: 共产医疗当然有很多弊端，但不共产医疗肯定弊端更多。
: 有些东西是不能资本化，资本的目的是赚钱，疯狂的赚钱，像吸血鬼一样的吸钱。离奇
: 的医疗费用自然就不可避免了。
: 教育也没有资本化，中国走了弯路，现在又回归了。
: 医疗显然应该跟教育一样，走以共产为主，私有辅助的道路。
: 你说的这种病，就是现有的医疗也不会完全 cover， as far as I know, every
: insurance has a max yearly limit, it is high though in several milion $
: range.

l*c2013-01-26 08:01

24 楼

I don't think you have medical insurance now,
So, I don't know why you attack obama care

【在 y****t 的大作中提到】

: lopt现在又来开始晃点无知的人了.
: 都辩过多少回的东西.
: 要不要脸.
: 等到全民共产医疗没钱了,给你一棵自杀药丸的时候.
: 你连选择都没有了.
: 别怪我老人家没告诉你.
: The 64-year-old Oregon woman, whose lung cancer had been in remission,
: learned the disease had returned and would likely kill her. Her last hope
: was a $4,000-a-month drug that her doctor prescribed for her, but the
: insurance company refused to pay.

y*t2013-01-26 08:01

25 楼

i dont think you have a brain.
so, i understand why you attack me.

【在 l******c 的大作中提到】

: I don't think you have medical insurance now,
: So, I don't know why you attack obama care

y*d2013-01-26 08:01

26 楼

Canadian system has been working for many years without bankruptcy, why
obama's plan is a shit?

y*t2013-01-26 08:01

27 楼

哈哈..
突然,小左们现在不提欧洲了...

【在 y*****d 的大作中提到】

: Canadian system has been working for many years without bankruptcy, why
: obama's plan is a shit?

t*n2013-01-26 08:01

28 楼

Because Canadian can cross the border for health care if they don't want to
WAIT for death. Where can you go after obama's plan? Mexico?

【在 y*****d 的大作中提到】

: Canadian system has been working for many years without bankruptcy, why
: obama's plan is a shit?

T*02013-01-26 08:01

29 楼

因为加拿大是用tax money付医疗。美国的tax money都去买炸弹了，所以中产还要再掏
一次腰包，去付穷人的医疗费。

【在 y*****d 的大作中提到】

: Canadian system has been working for many years without bankruptcy, why
: obama's plan is a shit?

y*t2013-01-26 08:01

30 楼

i dont think war has anything to do with this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_

【在 T******0 的大作中提到】

: 因为加拿大是用tax money付医疗。美国的tax money都去买炸弹了，所以中产还要再掏
: 一次腰包，去付穷人的医疗费。

l*c2013-01-26 08:01

31 楼

Can you provide any proof for your medical insurance?
If you wok in the private sector, like msft or google, do not tell us you
have medical insurance.
This has been discussed many times: that kind of faked medical insurance is
provided when you do have any serious sickness. Once you cannot work
overtime because of health problem, you will be fired soon and lose all the
medical insurance.
Yes, if you are a police officers, you have medical insurance.

【在 y****t 的大作中提到】

: i dont think war has anything to do with this.
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_

n*b2013-01-26 08:01

32 楼

please ask your Canadian friends how long they have to wait if they want to
do a MRI/CT scan

【在 y*****d 的大作中提到】

: Canadian system has been working for many years without bankruptcy, why
: obama's plan is a shit?

n*b2013-01-26 08:01

33 楼

come on, when people become too sick to work, they can use FEMA program for
3 months without being fired by their employers.
and many companies extend the group insurance benefit to employees even they
are terminally ill and no longer be able to work.

is
the

【在 l******c 的大作中提到】

: Can you provide any proof for your medical insurance?
: If you wok in the private sector, like msft or google, do not tell us you
: have medical insurance.
: This has been discussed many times: that kind of faked medical insurance is
: provided when you do have any serious sickness. Once you cannot work
: overtime because of health problem, you will be fired soon and lose all the
: medical insurance.
: Yes, if you are a police officers, you have medical insurance.

h*72013-01-26 08:01

34 楼

对于美国目前的医疗状况, 共产医疗算是一种改善吧, 但也好不到哪里去.
个人觉得, 真正的大手术, 就是要用资本主义的猛药来治疗美国的医疗制度 -- 打破垄
断, 强化竞争, 让诊所/药店/药厂和医院遍地开花, 象餐馆/手机店一样开遍大街小巷,
生命有价化, 自生自灭, 各负其责.
这种方法, 能拖得久一些.
不过, 到最后, 过度繁殖+人口老龄化+医疗危机+养老危机, 早晚是会把人类社会压到
一个绝境的, 最终就通过"上帝之手"解决了(主要是靠战争, 外加自然淘汰), 这是很残
酷的, 但是没办法, 不光是 grandma 安乐死了 (那就算是善终了), 大量青壮年人口也
会被人道毁灭.

p*m2013-01-26 08:01

35 楼

u will be dead by then, why do you care

【在 y****t 的大作中提到】

: obamacare运行起来到破产,我估计不会超过二十年.
: 大家自己算日子吧.

y*t2013-01-26 08:01

36 楼

look, i am just a messenger.
why you hate me so much?
lol...

【在 p**m 的大作中提到】

: u will be dead by then, why do you care

g*e2013-01-26 08:01

37 楼

wrong message. Feds contorls the supply side of medicine, it also has the
responsibility/capability to save life.

【在 y****t 的大作中提到】

: look, i am just a messenger.
: why you hate me so much?
: lol...

y*t2013-01-26 08:01

38 楼

再顶.

【在 y****t 的大作中提到】

: lopt现在又来开始晃点无知的人了.
: 都辩过多少回的东西.
: 要不要脸.
: 等到全民共产医疗没钱了,给你一棵自杀药丸的时候.
: 你连选择都没有了.
: 别怪我老人家没告诉你.
: The 64-year-old Oregon woman, whose lung cancer had been in remission,
: learned the disease had returned and would likely kill her. Her last hope
: was a $4,000-a-month drug that her doctor prescribed for her, but the
: insurance company refused to pay.

i*e2013-01-26 08:01

39 楼

one to two weeks as far as I know.

to

【在 n***b 的大作中提到】

: please ask your Canadian friends how long they have to wait if they want to
: do a MRI/CT scan

l*t2013-01-26 08:01

40 楼

“But under the insurance plan, she can the only receive "palliative" or
comfort care, because the drug does not meet the "five-year, 5 percent rule"
-- that is, a 5 percent survival rate after five years.”
你不造谣会死啊？你认为这种基本没用的药保险应该cover？？

M*c2013-01-26 08:01

41 楼

I am wondering how would these two happen at the same time?
过度繁殖+人口老龄化

巷,

【在 h****7 的大作中提到】

: 对于美国目前的医疗状况, 共产医疗算是一种改善吧, 但也好不到哪里去.
: 个人觉得, 真正的大手术, 就是要用资本主义的猛药来治疗美国的医疗制度 -- 打破垄
: 断, 强化竞争, 让诊所/药店/药厂和医院遍地开花, 象餐馆/手机店一样开遍大街小巷,
: 生命有价化, 自生自灭, 各负其责.
: 这种方法, 能拖得久一些.
: 不过, 到最后, 过度繁殖+人口老龄化+医疗危机+养老危机, 早晚是会把人类社会压到
: 一个绝境的, 最终就通过"上帝之手"解决了(主要是靠战争, 外加自然淘汰), 这是很残
: 酷的, 但是没办法, 不光是 grandma 安乐死了 (那就算是善终了), 大量青壮年人口也
: 会被人道毁灭.