l*y
2 楼
谢谢
L*Y
3 楼
RT。谢谢板上各位大牛！
m*c
4 楼
【 以下文字转载自 Gay_Criminolgy 俱乐部 】
发信人: msgc (为了下一代免遭变态残害), 信区: Gay_Criminolgy
标 题: Crime will rise if gay couples are allowed to marry,
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jan 19 12:14:39 2013, 美东)
Lobbyist links gay marriage to crime rise in NZ
Crime will rise if gay couples are allowed to marry, says the head of the
country's victim lobby group.
Sensible Sentencing Trust leader Garth McVicar has submitted to Parliament
that changing the law to allow same-sex marriage will be yet another erosion
of basic morals and values in society which have led to an escalation of
child abuse, domestic violence, and an ever-increasing prison population.
"The marriage amendment bill will not benefit society at all and will
ultimately have detremetal (sic) effect on crime at all levels," the
submission read.
Labour MP Louisa Wall's Marriage (Definition of Marriage) Amendment Bill is
currently before a select committee, which will report to Parliament on
February 28. If passed, it could see gay marriage legal by May next year.
The committee has received over 20,000 submissions on the bill.
Green MP Kevin Hague, who sits on the select committee, said after reading
the vast majority of submissions, McVicar's was the only one linking crime
to gay marriage.
"Although it echoes a number of submissions that say marriage has been the
same way for a long time and that if you tamper with it there will be lots
of unforeseen circumstances," Hague said.
He said he had not read any evidence to suggest that allowing gay people to
marry would create a dysfunctional society or increase crime. "I suspect
that underlying this submission is a prejudice against gay people. If you
break the argument down, it is manifestly nonsensical."
McVicar's statement said that he considered the bill would be a further
erosion of what he considered to be essential basic values and morals that
have "stood the test of time for centuries".
"Furthermore, the bill represents a further decay and erosion of the
traditional family that society has been founded on."
He said while much good work has been done recently to reduce crime and
ensure better treatment of victims, the bill had the ability to destroy that
good work.
Criminologist Dr James Oleson, from Auckland University, an expert in
deviance, said he was not familiar with any research that would suggest
homosexuals would be responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime.
For McVicar's argument to be plausible, he said, it would have to be proved
that allowing homosexuals to marry degraded morality, and that this produced
more crime. "But I'm not sure that's true." The more common drivers of
crime were economic issues, alcohol, drugs, education and employment and
family dysfunction, Oleson said.
McVicar did not respond to requests for comment.
发信人: msgc (为了下一代免遭变态残害), 信区: Gay_Criminolgy
标 题: Crime will rise if gay couples are allowed to marry,
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jan 19 12:14:39 2013, 美东)
Lobbyist links gay marriage to crime rise in NZ
Crime will rise if gay couples are allowed to marry, says the head of the
country's victim lobby group.
Sensible Sentencing Trust leader Garth McVicar has submitted to Parliament
that changing the law to allow same-sex marriage will be yet another erosion
of basic morals and values in society which have led to an escalation of
child abuse, domestic violence, and an ever-increasing prison population.
"The marriage amendment bill will not benefit society at all and will
ultimately have detremetal (sic) effect on crime at all levels," the
submission read.
Labour MP Louisa Wall's Marriage (Definition of Marriage) Amendment Bill is
currently before a select committee, which will report to Parliament on
February 28. If passed, it could see gay marriage legal by May next year.
The committee has received over 20,000 submissions on the bill.
Green MP Kevin Hague, who sits on the select committee, said after reading
the vast majority of submissions, McVicar's was the only one linking crime
to gay marriage.
"Although it echoes a number of submissions that say marriage has been the
same way for a long time and that if you tamper with it there will be lots
of unforeseen circumstances," Hague said.
He said he had not read any evidence to suggest that allowing gay people to
marry would create a dysfunctional society or increase crime. "I suspect
that underlying this submission is a prejudice against gay people. If you
break the argument down, it is manifestly nonsensical."
McVicar's statement said that he considered the bill would be a further
erosion of what he considered to be essential basic values and morals that
have "stood the test of time for centuries".
"Furthermore, the bill represents a further decay and erosion of the
traditional family that society has been founded on."
He said while much good work has been done recently to reduce crime and
ensure better treatment of victims, the bill had the ability to destroy that
good work.
Criminologist Dr James Oleson, from Auckland University, an expert in
deviance, said he was not familiar with any research that would suggest
homosexuals would be responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime.
For McVicar's argument to be plausible, he said, it would have to be proved
that allowing homosexuals to marry degraded morality, and that this produced
more crime. "But I'm not sure that's true." The more common drivers of
crime were economic issues, alcohol, drugs, education and employment and
family dysfunction, Oleson said.
McVicar did not respond to requests for comment.
C*X
5 楼
和现实中的男人差距太大了。。
b*n
6 楼
建议先告诉自己保险公司一下
【在 n**********g 的大作中提到】
: 还是等POLICE REPORT 出来联系对方的？
: 谢谢帮助
【在 n**********g 的大作中提到】
: 还是等POLICE REPORT 出来联系对方的？
: 谢谢帮助
b*7
7 楼
三，四个月应该没问题，看你家娃长得多快了。如果腿太长，三档高度都不够用的话，
小孩会觉得没意思的。
小孩会觉得没意思的。
L*Y
8 楼
我的意思是9月发布的10月的排期。EB1.
z*d
9 楼
很多物理定律、数学公式、化学公式、生物基因、以及各种定理定律等等都是在理想状
态下得出的。
光速也是在理想状态下得出的。在现实中，其实并不存在……
哈哈哈。
【在 C*********X 的大作中提到】
: 和现实中的男人差距太大了。。
态下得出的。
光速也是在理想状态下得出的。在现实中，其实并不存在……
哈哈哈。
【在 C*********X 的大作中提到】
: 和现实中的男人差距太大了。。
i*4
10 楼
应该赶紧联系对方保险公司，自己这边可以不报告。
l*r
11 楼
是。奥本说了。
d*r
12 楼
理想中的女人和现实中的女人差距也很大
g*i
13 楼
警察应该告诉你们各自联系各自的保险公司的吧
L*Y
14 楼
多谢大牛！哪里可以看到奥本的讲话？
C*X
15 楼
是啊。。。不能活在理想状态。。。
要脚踏实地。。
【在 d*********r 的大作中提到】
: 理想中的女人和现实中的女人差距也很大
要脚踏实地。。
【在 d*********r 的大作中提到】
: 理想中的女人和现实中的女人差距也很大
y*m
16 楼
当然要联系
b*r
17 楼
九月份没排期了？！
不是要到十月份吗？
谁来具体解释下。
不是要到十月份吗？
谁来具体解释下。
w*s
18 楼
扫货的路上吧，patpat your ass
你应该有对方的保险信息，可以打电话，恭喜你可以小赚几百块
【在 n**********g 的大作中提到】
: 还是等POLICE REPORT 出来联系对方的？
: 谢谢帮助
你应该有对方的保险信息，可以打电话，恭喜你可以小赚几百块
【在 n**********g 的大作中提到】
: 还是等POLICE REPORT 出来联系对方的？
: 谢谢帮助
h*g
19 楼
不用联系自己的，最好不要让他们知道。但马上联系对方的，告诉他们完全是对方的责
任，自己没有任何责任，然后去对方保险公司理赔，可以要求TAKE CHECK INSTEAD OF
REPAIR. 可以至少赚个几百到上千。
【在 n**********g 的大作中提到】
: 还是等POLICE REPORT 出来联系对方的？
: 谢谢帮助
任，自己没有任何责任，然后去对方保险公司理赔，可以要求TAKE CHECK INSTEAD OF
REPAIR. 可以至少赚个几百到上千。
【在 n**********g 的大作中提到】
: 还是等POLICE REPORT 出来联系对方的？
: 谢谢帮助
i*4
20 楼
re
【在 h********g 的大作中提到】
: 不用联系自己的，最好不要让他们知道。但马上联系对方的，告诉他们完全是对方的责
: 任，自己没有任何责任，然后去对方保险公司理赔，可以要求TAKE CHECK INSTEAD OF
: REPAIR. 可以至少赚个几百到上千。
【在 h********g 的大作中提到】
: 不用联系自己的，最好不要让他们知道。但马上联系对方的，告诉他们完全是对方的责
: 任，自己没有任何责任，然后去对方保险公司理赔，可以要求TAKE CHECK INSTEAD OF
: REPAIR. 可以至少赚个几百到上千。
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