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z*62010-12-06 08:12

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【以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区】
发信人: sunnyday (艳阳天), 信区: WaterWorld
标题: 关于维基离网站，警告大家一下
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Dec 5 13:49:42 2010, 美东)
联邦机构已经发出警告：所有公立机构的雇员，以及contractor:
不准去看维基离的网站，无论是用公家的电脑还是私人的电脑都不可以
（新闻里就是这么写的，只要你是公立机构的雇员或者contractor，哪怕用
你自己的电脑在家里看都不可以)
现在大家正在试图解读这个规定，那就是一般的大学的拿到NIH, NSF funding
的人，到底是否受这个规定的约束？
所以我也得提醒大家一下：在这个规则被解释清楚之前，最好不要上维基离的网站。
免得给自己自找麻烦

a*s2010-12-06 08:12

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美国的自由也就是如此，国内至少你看了还没事，美国就是坐牢了
这次牛B大了，不过谁去最高法院起诉这个决定违宪吧。

【在 z********6 的大作中提到】

: 【以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区】
: 发信人: sunnyday (艳阳天), 信区: WaterWorld
: 标题: 关于维基离网站，警告大家一下
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Dec 5 13:49:42 2010, 美东)
: 联邦机构已经发出警告：所有公立机构的雇员，以及contractor:
: 不准去看维基离的网站，无论是用公家的电脑还是私人的电脑都不可以
: （新闻里就是这么写的，只要你是公立机构的雇员或者contractor，哪怕用
: 你自己的电脑在家里看都不可以)
: 现在大家正在试图解读这个规定，那就是一般的大学的拿到NIH, NSF funding
: 的人，到底是否受这个规定的约束？

W*o2010-12-06 08:12

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愚人节吧？要美国政府真有这规定那比中宣部还沙比。这不给免费做广告吗？本来没想
着看，现在还非要去看看。

z*62010-12-06 08:12

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-cables-blocks-access-federal
US blocks access to WikiLeaks for federal workersEmployees unable to call up WikiLeaks on government computers as material is still formally classified, says US
Share538 Comments (106) Ewen MacAskill in Washington guardian.co.uk, Friday 3 December 2010 22.16 GMT Article history
WikiLeaks has been blocked from being accessed by federal employees of the US, because the files are still seen as classified. Photograph: Thomas Coex/AFP/Getty Images
The Obama administration is banning hundreds of thousands of federal employees from calling up the WikiLeaks site on government computers because the leaked material is still formally regarded as classified.
The Library of Congress tonight joined the education department, the commerce department and other government agencies in confirming that the ban is in place.
Although thousands of leaked cables are freely available on the Guardian, New York Times and other newspaper websites, as well as the WikiLeaks site, the Obama administration insists they are still classified and, as such, have to be protected.
The move comes at a time when civil rights and other liberal groups are becoming increasingly critical, inviting parallels with the kind of bans on information imposed by China and other oppressive governments.
The Library of Congress, one of the biggest libraries in the world, serving both Congress and the public, and essentially the library of record for the US, issued a statement tonight, which read: "The library decided to block WikiLeaks because applicable law obligates federal agencies to protect classified information. Unauthorised disclosures of classified documents do not alter the documents' classified status or automatically result in declassification of the documents."
Disclosure of the ban brought a flood of criticism from liberal bloggers, critical of the Library of Congress's behaviour.
News of the ban was first reported by the Washington Post.
The commerce department, in an email circulated to employees on Monday, said the WikiLeaks material remained classified and "is NOT authorised for downloading, viewing, printing, processing, copying or transmitting" on government computers or communication devices.
It warned anyone downloading the WikiLeaks material: "Accessing the WikiLeaks documents will lead to sanitisation of your PC to remove any potentially classified information from your system, and the result in possible data loss."
The education department said any employees who had already looked at the material should contact their internet technology department. An internal email said that IT staff "will work with you to remediate your device".

【在 W*****o 的大作中提到】

: 愚人节吧？要美国政府真有这规定那比中宣部还沙比。这不给免费做广告吗？本来没想
: 着看，现在还非要去看看。

k*62010-12-06 08:12

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SB, 文章那里说不能用私人电脑了？造谣不是这么造的.

up WikiLeaks on government computers as material is still formally
classified, says US
Friday 3 December 2010 22.16 GMT Article history
US, because the files are still seen as classified. Photograph: Thomas Coex
/AFP/Getty Images
employees from calling up the WikiLeaks site on government computers because
the leaked material is still formally regarded as classified.
commerce department and other government agencies in confirming that the ban
is in place.
New York Times and other newspaper websites, as well as the WikiLeaks site,
the Obama administration insists they are still classified and, as such,
have to be protected.
becoming increasingly critical, inviting parallels with the kind of bans on
information imposed by China and other oppressive governments.

【在 z********6 的大作中提到】

: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-cables-blocks-access-federal
: US blocks access to WikiLeaks for federal workersEmployees unable to call up WikiLeaks on government computers as material is still formally classified, says US
: Share538 Comments (106) Ewen MacAskill in Washington guardian.co.uk, Friday 3 December 2010 22.16 GMT Article history
: WikiLeaks has been blocked from being accessed by federal employees of the US, because the files are still seen as classified. Photograph: Thomas Coex/AFP/Getty Images
: The Obama administration is banning hundreds of thousands of federal employees from calling up the WikiLeaks site on government computers because the leaked material is still formally regarded as classified.
: The Library of Congress tonight joined the education department, the commerce department and other government agencies in confirming that the ban is in place.
: Although thousands of leaked cables are freely available on the Guardian, New York Times and other newspaper websites, as well as the WikiLeaks site, the Obama administration insists they are still classified and, as such, have to be protected.
: The move comes at a time when civil rights and other liberal groups are becoming increasingly critical, inviting parallels with the kind of bans on information imposed by China and other oppressive governments.
: The Library of Congress, one of the biggest libraries in the world, serving both Congress and the public, and essentially the library of record for the US, issued a statement tonight, which read: "The library decided to block WikiLeaks because applicable law obligates federal agencies to protect classified information. Unauthorised disclosures of classified documents do not alter the documents' classified status or automatically result in declassification of the documents."
: Disclosure of the ban brought a flood of criticism from liberal bloggers, critical of the Library of Congress's behaviour.

E*h2010-12-06 08:12

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很好很民主
关于维基离网站，警告大家一下【在 zhaandong6 (查安东) 的大作中提到: 】

z*62010-12-06 08:12

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老将对造谣还有什么奇怪的？

Coex
because
ban

【在 k****6 的大作中提到】

: SB, 文章那里说不能用私人电脑了？造谣不是这么造的.
:
: up WikiLeaks on government computers as material is still formally
: classified, says US
: Friday 3 December 2010 22.16 GMT Article history
: US, because the files are still seen as classified. Photograph: Thomas Coex
: /AFP/Getty Images
: employees from calling up the WikiLeaks site on government computers because
: the leaked material is still formally regarded as classified.
: commerce department and other government agencies in confirming that the ban

z*62010-12-06 08:12

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http://www.dailybreeze.com/latestnews/ci_16762048
Raytheon forbids employees to access WikiLeaks website
By Muhammed El-Hasan Business Writer
Posted: 12/02/2010 07:45:24 PM PST
Updated: 12/03/2010 12:36:07 PM PST
Military contractor Raytheon Space and Airborne Systems has informed
employees in El Segundo that they are forbidden to access the
controversial whistle-blower website WikiLeaks either on company or
personal computers

Thomas Coex
because
the ban

【在 k****6 的大作中提到】

z*62010-12-06 08:12

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The memo reads in part: "U.S. Government agencies are releasing guidance
to contractors. Reviewing information on WikiLeaks or subsequent
disclosures is strictly prohibited. As a contractor to the Federal
Government, this means ... personnel are prohibited from accessing
WikiLeaks whether on company-issued or on personal equipment."

Coex
because
ban

【在 k****6 的大作中提到】

M*o2010-12-06 08:12

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西方有言论自由是因为主流言论不危害国家稳定，小打小闹的反政府言论在被完全洗脑
的民众里根本没影响力，但是一旦出现了有实质危害性的言论出现时肯定会被打压的。

j*o2010-12-06 08:12

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美国政府当然有权力规定自己的员工上班可以看什么不看什么，所有单位上班都有code
的，下班是你自己的时间，警察不抓都可以干

c*o2010-12-06 08:12

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有人转joke版吗？

【在 z********6 的大作中提到】

D*o2010-12-06 08:12

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我恰好是federal contractor,接到的通知是不可以用公家的电脑看这些东东。至于回
家干啥，没有指示。
We have been given a very serious warning not to view or download WikiLeaks
documents or information from any government IT device. If XXX monitoring
reveals that your government IT device has accessed/downloaded information
from the WikiLeaks websites, your computer will be confiscated and cleansed.

s*y2010-12-06 08:12

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只要你是联邦的雇员，就算是下班了也不行。
因为这个规定的原则是那些消息是保密消息，联邦雇员在没有得到允许之前就是
不许去看的，否则就构成了窥探保密文件，不管是否在上班时间都不可以。
不管是用公家电脑还是私人网络都不可以。

code

【在 j***o 的大作中提到】

: 美国政府当然有权力规定自己的员工上班可以看什么不看什么，所有单位上班都有code
: 的，下班是你自己的时间，警察不抓都可以干

d*h2010-12-06 08:12

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USMC这个规定就是为了避免法律问题。其实并不是真的防着人看的，要想看太容易了，
借朋友的电脑看就是了，这个不算是Willingly expose to classified material.

【在 s******y 的大作中提到】

: 只要你是联邦的雇员，就算是下班了也不行。
: 因为这个规定的原则是那些消息是保密消息，联邦雇员在没有得到允许之前就是
: 不许去看的，否则就构成了窥探保密文件，不管是否在上班时间都不可以。
: 不管是用公家电脑还是私人网络都不可以。
:
: code

d*h2010-12-06 08:12

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另外根据classified的定义，由于这些材料已经出现在公共领域，根本已经不算
classified。不会产生多大的效果。
当然政府雇员还是不要再政府电脑上看，否则还是可能会惹麻烦。

【在 z********6 的大作中提到】

: The memo reads in part: "U.S. Government agencies are releasing guidance
: to contractors. Reviewing information on WikiLeaks or subsequent
: disclosures is strictly prohibited. As a contractor to the Federal
: Government, this means ... personnel are prohibited from accessing
: WikiLeaks whether on company-issued or on personal equipment."
:
: Coex
: because
: ban

c*a2010-12-06 08:12

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言论自由的国家搞点这个，挺新鲜的啦，换个口味