c*t
2 楼
顶这个。
c*n
3 楼
which one? DA NIU!
g*l
5 楼
感觉GS在疯狂地报复啊
h*n
6 楼
let market go hellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
买哪个?
买哪个?
D*J
7 楼
买点 道指 高分红 股。
g*l
10 楼
面不好的股票都是无底下跌,真凶狠啊,要接就接面好一些的吧。
e*r
17 楼
决不抄底,只等5 MA回头一刻
r*m
21 楼
very sharp!
I agree I am partially历史价值投资.
because I feel it's very very hard for retailer investors like myself to
really know the "value" of a stock(company) based on the limited info we
have. So I have to assume that the average moving price may represent a
commonly accepted "value". If the current stock price move too far away
from that "average price", and without specific bad news, then I may
consider buy.
【在 j*****7 的大作中提到】
: 我用的是价值投资, 你的方法嘛, 不好意思了, 好像有点儿历史价值投资的感觉。
I agree I am partially历史价值投资.
because I feel it's very very hard for retailer investors like myself to
really know the "value" of a stock(company) based on the limited info we
have. So I have to assume that the average moving price may represent a
commonly accepted "value". If the current stock price move too far away
from that "average price", and without specific bad news, then I may
consider buy.
【在 j*****7 的大作中提到】
: 我用的是价值投资, 你的方法嘛, 不好意思了, 好像有点儿历史价值投资的感觉。
h*e
24 楼
搬个板凳看高手过招
r*m
25 楼
and I actually don't know much about FA, either.
k*n
27 楼
恩,有道理
【在 r*m 的大作中提到】
: very sharp!
: I agree I am partially历史价值投资.
: because I feel it's very very hard for retailer investors like myself to
: really know the "value" of a stock(company) based on the limited info we
: have. So I have to assume that the average moving price may represent a
: commonly accepted "value". If the current stock price move too far away
: from that "average price", and without specific bad news, then I may
: consider buy.
【在 r*m 的大作中提到】
: very sharp!
: I agree I am partially历史价值投资.
: because I feel it's very very hard for retailer investors like myself to
: really know the "value" of a stock(company) based on the limited info we
: have. So I have to assume that the average moving price may represent a
: commonly accepted "value". If the current stock price move too far away
: from that "average price", and without specific bad news, then I may
: consider buy.
j*7
28 楼
Well, the validity of your method, lies solely on ONE underlying assumption,
regression, another word, trend/pattern. You are assuming the past
pattern will repeat itself.
However, what if the "trend" is broken? i.e., fundementally change happened?
【在 r*m 的大作中提到】
: very sharp!
: I agree I am partially历史价值投资.
: because I feel it's very very hard for retailer investors like myself to
: really know the "value" of a stock(company) based on the limited info we
: have. So I have to assume that the average moving price may represent a
: commonly accepted "value". If the current stock price move too far away
: from that "average price", and without specific bad news, then I may
: consider buy.
regression, another word, trend/pattern. You are assuming the past
pattern will repeat itself.
However, what if the "trend" is broken? i.e., fundementally change happened?
【在 r*m 的大作中提到】
: very sharp!
: I agree I am partially历史价值投资.
: because I feel it's very very hard for retailer investors like myself to
: really know the "value" of a stock(company) based on the limited info we
: have. So I have to assume that the average moving price may represent a
: commonly accepted "value". If the current stock price move too far away
: from that "average price", and without specific bad news, then I may
: consider buy.
r*m
29 楼
right, so my responsibility is to judge and make sure that no such "
fundamental change" happened.
That's still a difficult task, but I feel it's relatively easier than
knowing the exact "value" (pure FA)or trying to outsmart other by drawing
lines on the graph (pure TA).
assumption,
happened?
【在 j*****7 的大作中提到】
: Well, the validity of your method, lies solely on ONE underlying assumption,
: regression, another word, trend/pattern. You are assuming the past
: pattern will repeat itself.
: However, what if the "trend" is broken? i.e., fundementally change happened?
fundamental change" happened.
That's still a difficult task, but I feel it's relatively easier than
knowing the exact "value" (pure FA)or trying to outsmart other by drawing
lines on the graph (pure TA).
assumption,
happened?
【在 j*****7 的大作中提到】
: Well, the validity of your method, lies solely on ONE underlying assumption,
: regression, another word, trend/pattern. You are assuming the past
: pattern will repeat itself.
: However, what if the "trend" is broken? i.e., fundementally change happened?
o*i
30 楼
Ding帮主..
c*m
34 楼
well self-valued.
【在 r*m 的大作中提到】
: very sharp!
: I agree I am partially历史价值投资.
: because I feel it's very very hard for retailer investors like myself to
: really know the "value" of a stock(company) based on the limited info we
: have. So I have to assume that the average moving price may represent a
: commonly accepted "value". If the current stock price move too far away
: from that "average price", and without specific bad news, then I may
: consider buy.
【在 r*m 的大作中提到】
: very sharp!
: I agree I am partially历史价值投资.
: because I feel it's very very hard for retailer investors like myself to
: really know the "value" of a stock(company) based on the limited info we
: have. So I have to assume that the average moving price may represent a
: commonly accepted "value". If the current stock price move too far away
: from that "average price", and without specific bad news, then I may
: consider buy.
h*a
35 楼
1135了。
g*l
36 楼
价值投资是不错的,比如,我从来就没看上船运和太阳能,一两年内没有什么价值,金
融危机么,值得投资的还是金融,当然也是要看近期价格,避免买在山上。
融危机么,值得投资的还是金融,当然也是要看近期价格,避免买在山上。
j*7
37 楼
平稳状态下的股市其实是比较难发现严重undervalue的股票的。
只有在重大事件发生的时候,才会出现价值价格严重背离的情况, 市场毕竟不是无时
无刻都有效的。
这种意义上来说, 恐慌是散户的朋友。 我们应该感谢股市下跌, 要不然, 你我怎么
可能在低价位上买到好东西呢? 当然, 良好的资金管理是使自己立于不败之地的第一
步。
Tricky的是,股票的价值又有很大程度被参与者所定义,价值投资者的信念就是终有一天, 价格会向intrinsic value(如果有的话)回归。
【在 r*m 的大作中提到】
: right, so my responsibility is to judge and make sure that no such "
: fundamental change" happened.
: That's still a difficult task, but I feel it's relatively easier than
: knowing the exact "value" (pure FA)or trying to outsmart other by drawing
: lines on the graph (pure TA).
:
: assumption,
: happened?
只有在重大事件发生的时候,才会出现价值价格严重背离的情况, 市场毕竟不是无时
无刻都有效的。
这种意义上来说, 恐慌是散户的朋友。 我们应该感谢股市下跌, 要不然, 你我怎么
可能在低价位上买到好东西呢? 当然, 良好的资金管理是使自己立于不败之地的第一
步。
Tricky的是,股票的价值又有很大程度被参与者所定义,价值投资者的信念就是终有一天, 价格会向intrinsic value(如果有的话)回归。
【在 r*m 的大作中提到】
: right, so my responsibility is to judge and make sure that no such "
: fundamental change" happened.
: That's still a difficult task, but I feel it's relatively easier than
: knowing the exact "value" (pure FA)or trying to outsmart other by drawing
: lines on the graph (pure TA).
:
: assumption,
: happened?
b*r
40 楼
我觉得RIM最大的优点在与money management。不会弹尽粮绝。如果follow rim
一定要控制好仓位。
一定要控制好仓位。
c*n
42 楼
没看出你和rim哪不一样啊?
他认为今天很多股票便宜,所以tempting,你也感谢下跌,这不都是buy on dip嘛。
一天, 价格会向intrinsic value(如果有的话)回归。
【在 j*****7 的大作中提到】
: 平稳状态下的股市其实是比较难发现严重undervalue的股票的。
: 只有在重大事件发生的时候,才会出现价值价格严重背离的情况, 市场毕竟不是无时
: 无刻都有效的。
: 这种意义上来说, 恐慌是散户的朋友。 我们应该感谢股市下跌, 要不然, 你我怎么
: 可能在低价位上买到好东西呢? 当然, 良好的资金管理是使自己立于不败之地的第一
: 步。
: Tricky的是,股票的价值又有很大程度被参与者所定义,价值投资者的信念就是终有一天, 价格会向intrinsic value(如果有的话)回归。
他认为今天很多股票便宜,所以tempting,你也感谢下跌,这不都是buy on dip嘛。
一天, 价格会向intrinsic value(如果有的话)回归。
【在 j*****7 的大作中提到】
: 平稳状态下的股市其实是比较难发现严重undervalue的股票的。
: 只有在重大事件发生的时候,才会出现价值价格严重背离的情况, 市场毕竟不是无时
: 无刻都有效的。
: 这种意义上来说, 恐慌是散户的朋友。 我们应该感谢股市下跌, 要不然, 你我怎么
: 可能在低价位上买到好东西呢? 当然, 良好的资金管理是使自己立于不败之地的第一
: 步。
: Tricky的是,股票的价值又有很大程度被参与者所定义,价值投资者的信念就是终有一天, 价格会向intrinsic value(如果有的话)回归。
c*t
43 楼
intrinsic value的volatility不比price小多少。 你觉得price背离intrinsic value
的时候,焉知不是intrinsic value自己在变化呢。其实说到底,还是赌自己比市场看
得准。
一天, 价格会向intrinsic value(如果有的话)回归。
【在 j*****7 的大作中提到】
: 平稳状态下的股市其实是比较难发现严重undervalue的股票的。
: 只有在重大事件发生的时候,才会出现价值价格严重背离的情况, 市场毕竟不是无时
: 无刻都有效的。
: 这种意义上来说, 恐慌是散户的朋友。 我们应该感谢股市下跌, 要不然, 你我怎么
: 可能在低价位上买到好东西呢? 当然, 良好的资金管理是使自己立于不败之地的第一
: 步。
: Tricky的是,股票的价值又有很大程度被参与者所定义,价值投资者的信念就是终有一天, 价格会向intrinsic value(如果有的话)回归。
的时候,焉知不是intrinsic value自己在变化呢。其实说到底,还是赌自己比市场看
得准。
一天, 价格会向intrinsic value(如果有的话)回归。
【在 j*****7 的大作中提到】
: 平稳状态下的股市其实是比较难发现严重undervalue的股票的。
: 只有在重大事件发生的时候,才会出现价值价格严重背离的情况, 市场毕竟不是无时
: 无刻都有效的。
: 这种意义上来说, 恐慌是散户的朋友。 我们应该感谢股市下跌, 要不然, 你我怎么
: 可能在低价位上买到好东西呢? 当然, 良好的资金管理是使自己立于不败之地的第一
: 步。
: Tricky的是,股票的价值又有很大程度被参与者所定义,价值投资者的信念就是终有一天, 价格会向intrinsic value(如果有的话)回归。
g*u
45 楼
FA为后盾,TA为前锋。具体操作还是price action来的实在。这个我赞同Livermore的
观点,有很多内幕散户没法及时了解,但是状况出现了就要对付。等清楚原因了已经是
过后了。
观点,有很多内幕散户没法及时了解,但是状况出现了就要对付。等清楚原因了已经是
过后了。
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