U*n
2 楼
我没有看到。
结果看到了说上30 或者20的帖子。
rp问题吧。
【在 s8 的大作中提到】
: 周五警告过你们了。
: 是谁还骂我庄托来着。
结果看到了说上30 或者20的帖子。
rp问题吧。
【在 s8 的大作中提到】
: 周五警告过你们了。
: 是谁还骂我庄托来着。
U*n
4 楼
NEW YORK (TheStreet) -- Shares of most of solar stocks were down broadly on
Monday as fears of more sudden, and more severe, changes in the boom market
of Italy overtook the stocks. Several Street reports indicated that a new
draft being introduced this week in Italian parliament would cap solar
installations at 8 gigawatts, and the cap would be implemented immediately
and with no grandfathering clause.
没有明白，为什么有人要装太阳能，反而生产商stock要跌啊
【在 s8 的大作中提到】
: 消息出来了：
: http://www.thestreet.com/story/11025761/1/solar-winners-losers-
Monday as fears of more sudden, and more severe, changes in the boom market
of Italy overtook the stocks. Several Street reports indicated that a new
draft being introduced this week in Italian parliament would cap solar
installations at 8 gigawatts, and the cap would be implemented immediately
and with no grandfathering clause.
没有明白，为什么有人要装太阳能，反而生产商stock要跌啊
【在 s8 的大作中提到】
: 消息出来了：
: http://www.thestreet.com/story/11025761/1/solar-winners-losers-
z*z
5 楼
文章说给他按了个cap，所以是在限制他的使用。
d*y
6 楼
这理解很雷人.俺先不捞了.等明确信号.这第一口是不好吃.
【在 z*********z 的大作中提到】
: 文章说给他按了个cap，所以是在限制他的使用。
【在 z*********z 的大作中提到】
: 文章说给他按了个cap，所以是在限制他的使用。
U*n
7 楼
我以为你已经买了的呢。
结果你是观望啊？
【在 d***y 的大作中提到】
: 这理解很雷人.俺先不捞了.等明确信号.这第一口是不好吃.
结果你是观望啊？
【在 d***y 的大作中提到】
: 这理解很雷人.俺先不捞了.等明确信号.这第一口是不好吃.
z*z
8 楼
Recent commentary in the Italian market has focused on a cap on individual
project size for agricultural land projects of 1 megawatt, and restrictions
on the amount of solar power per hectare. The new draft not only includes
these provisions, but an overall cap of 8GW. The 8GW is the most concerning
issue for the industry, as there may have been installations in Italy in
2010 between 5GW and 6GW.
【在 d***y 的大作中提到】
: 这理解很雷人.俺先不捞了.等明确信号.这第一口是不好吃.
project size for agricultural land projects of 1 megawatt, and restrictions
on the amount of solar power per hectare. The new draft not only includes
these provisions, but an overall cap of 8GW. The 8GW is the most concerning
issue for the industry, as there may have been installations in Italy in
2010 between 5GW and 6GW.
【在 d***y 的大作中提到】
: 这理解很雷人.俺先不捞了.等明确信号.这第一口是不好吃.
U*n
9 楼
8GW 很大了吧？
8GW=8MKW？８００万千瓦？
这个数量级怎么这么大啊？低过1/3个三峡了。
restrictions
concerning
【在 z*********z 的大作中提到】
: Recent commentary in the Italian market has focused on a cap on individual
: project size for agricultural land projects of 1 megawatt, and restrictions
: on the amount of solar power per hectare. The new draft not only includes
: these provisions, but an overall cap of 8GW. The 8GW is the most concerning
: issue for the industry, as there may have been installations in Italy in
: 2010 between 5GW and 6GW.
8GW=8MKW？８００万千瓦？
这个数量级怎么这么大啊？低过1/3个三峡了。
restrictions
concerning
【在 z*********z 的大作中提到】
: Recent commentary in the Italian market has focused on a cap on individual
: project size for agricultural land projects of 1 megawatt, and restrictions
: on the amount of solar power per hectare. The new draft not only includes
: these provisions, but an overall cap of 8GW. The 8GW is the most concerning
: issue for the industry, as there may have been installations in Italy in
: 2010 between 5GW and 6GW.
U*n
10 楼
Equities research analysts at Kaufman Brothers initiated coverage on shares
of LDK Solar (NYSE: LDK) in a research note to investors on Friday. The
analysts set a “buy” rating and a $24.00 price target on the stock.
restrictions
concerning
【在 z*********z 的大作中提到】
: Recent commentary in the Italian market has focused on a cap on individual
: project size for agricultural land projects of 1 megawatt, and restrictions
: on the amount of solar power per hectare. The new draft not only includes
: these provisions, but an overall cap of 8GW. The 8GW is the most concerning
: issue for the industry, as there may have been installations in Italy in
: 2010 between 5GW and 6GW.
of LDK Solar (NYSE: LDK) in a research note to investors on Friday. The
analysts set a “buy” rating and a $24.00 price target on the stock.
restrictions
concerning
【在 z*********z 的大作中提到】
: Recent commentary in the Italian market has focused on a cap on individual
: project size for agricultural land projects of 1 megawatt, and restrictions
: on the amount of solar power per hectare. The new draft not only includes
: these provisions, but an overall cap of 8GW. The 8GW is the most concerning
: issue for the industry, as there may have been installations in Italy in
: 2010 between 5GW and 6GW.
d*y
11 楼
捞了很多了.现在LDK每波动一毛，俺账户就是一会儿银等来了，银等又走了。
【在 U********n 的大作中提到】
: 我以为你已经买了的呢。
: 结果你是观望啊？
【在 U********n 的大作中提到】
: 我以为你已经买了的呢。
: 结果你是观望啊？
z*z
12 楼
I don't know. I hold it too. The report said there will be some 5GW, 6GW
projects going on, and Italy capped at 8GW overall, regardless of size of
the plant. They were not certain about the final play of this new rule, if
you read the mid graphs in that report.
projects going on, and Italy capped at 8GW overall, regardless of size of
the plant. They were not certain about the final play of this new rule, if
you read the mid graphs in that report.
u*e
13 楼
LDK的TA太明显的多重顶吧？上周五给了机会跑了。
U*n
14 楼
今天跌的原因是不是和 JKS 出ER有关系啊？
好像每个处ER整个产业都跟着跌。
上周是FSLR。
【在 d***y 的大作中提到】
: 捞了很多了.现在LDK每波动一毛，俺账户就是一会儿银等来了，银等又走了。
好像每个处ER整个产业都跟着跌。
上周是FSLR。
【在 d***y 的大作中提到】
: 捞了很多了.现在LDK每波动一毛，俺账户就是一会儿银等来了，银等又走了。
d*r
15 楼
明天还有SOL,是不是又和今天一样？
U*n
16 楼
不会吧。
那我就要逃了。
【在 d****r 的大作中提到】
: 明天还有SOL,是不是又和今天一样？
那我就要逃了。
【在 d****r 的大作中提到】
: 明天还有SOL,是不是又和今天一样？
U*n
17 楼
估计会继续跌。
明天卖到算了。
sigh，上错船了。8%的loss。
明天卖到算了。
sigh，上错船了。8%的loss。
y*i
18 楼
果然是捞底的和割肉的擦肩而过啊。
z*e
19 楼
Solar is marked at peak power output. Solar does not run at night, cloudy
or rainy days. Even in good places like Italy, solar hours are about 20%
so 8GW ~ 8 x 20% = 1.6 GW of base load, maybe even a bit less
【在 U********n 的大作中提到】
: 8GW 很大了吧？
: 8GW=8MKW？８００万千瓦？
: 这个数量级怎么这么大啊？低过1/3个三峡了。
:
: restrictions
: concerning
or rainy days. Even in good places like Italy, solar hours are about 20%
so 8GW ~ 8 x 20% = 1.6 GW of base load, maybe even a bit less
【在 U********n 的大作中提到】
: 8GW 很大了吧？
: 8GW=8MKW？８００万千瓦？
: 这个数量级怎么这么大啊？低过1/3个三峡了。
:
: restrictions
: concerning
U*n
20 楼
1.6 GW ～１６０万千瓦？
也够猛了啊？
水电站到这个级别的，中国也不多吧？
三峡（1820+420），溪洛渡（1260），白鹤滩（1200），乌东德（750），向家坝（600
），龙滩（630），糥扎渡（585），锦屏二级（480），小湾(420),两家人（400），，
拉西瓦（372），锦屏一级（360），单位为万千瓦
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】
: Solar is marked at peak power output. Solar does not run at night, cloudy
: or rainy days. Even in good places like Italy, solar hours are about 20%
: so 8GW ~ 8 x 20% = 1.6 GW of base load, maybe even a bit less
也够猛了啊？
水电站到这个级别的，中国也不多吧？
三峡（1820+420），溪洛渡（1260），白鹤滩（1200），乌东德（750），向家坝（600
），龙滩（630），糥扎渡（585），锦屏二级（480），小湾(420),两家人（400），，
拉西瓦（372），锦屏一级（360），单位为万千瓦
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】
: Solar is marked at peak power output. Solar does not run at night, cloudy
: or rainy days. Even in good places like Italy, solar hours are about 20%
: so 8GW ~ 8 x 20% = 1.6 GW of base load, maybe even a bit less
z*e
21 楼
Absolutely. It's huge. Say 1.6 GW x 365 days * 24 hrs / day = 14 billion
kwh
When the government buys it at 0.4 euro/kwh, it is 5.6B euro a year for
20 years. That is 112B Euros, a big big burden for the country. It also
locks
up at very high cost of energy and gives away the benefit of
1) future solar cost reduction
2) development of other fuel source e.g. shale gas in Europe.
For the same reasonSpain essentially removed its solar FIT program.
It is very hard to be bullish in the space.
600
【在 U********n 的大作中提到】
: 1.6 GW ～１６０万千瓦？
: 也够猛了啊？
: 水电站到这个级别的，中国也不多吧？
: 三峡（1820+420），溪洛渡（1260），白鹤滩（1200），乌东德（750），向家坝（600
: ），龙滩（630），糥扎渡（585），锦屏二级（480），小湾(420),两家人（400），，
: 拉西瓦（372），锦屏一级（360），单位为万千瓦
kwh
When the government buys it at 0.4 euro/kwh, it is 5.6B euro a year for
20 years. That is 112B Euros, a big big burden for the country. It also
locks
up at very high cost of energy and gives away the benefit of
1) future solar cost reduction
2) development of other fuel source e.g. shale gas in Europe.
For the same reasonSpain essentially removed its solar FIT program.
It is very hard to be bullish in the space.
600
【在 U********n 的大作中提到】
: 1.6 GW ～１６０万千瓦？
: 也够猛了啊？
: 水电站到这个级别的，中国也不多吧？
: 三峡（1820+420），溪洛渡（1260），白鹤滩（1200），乌东德（750），向家坝（600
: ），龙滩（630），糥扎渡（585），锦屏二级（480），小湾(420),两家人（400），，
: 拉西瓦（372），锦屏一级（360），单位为万千瓦
U*n
22 楼
If the government stipend is not deducted from the cost, how is the cost of
the solar compared with the Coal power plant / hydroelectric station?
I think it will still be very low cost compared with others?
is it right?
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】
: Absolutely. It's huge. Say 1.6 GW x 365 days * 24 hrs / day = 14 billion
: kwh
: When the government buys it at 0.4 euro/kwh, it is 5.6B euro a year for
: 20 years. That is 112B Euros, a big big burden for the country. It also
: locks
: up at very high cost of energy and gives away the benefit of
: 1) future solar cost reduction
: 2) development of other fuel source e.g. shale gas in Europe.
: For the same reasonSpain essentially removed its solar FIT program.
: It is very hard to be bullish in the space.
the solar compared with the Coal power plant / hydroelectric station?
I think it will still be very low cost compared with others?
is it right?
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】
: Absolutely. It's huge. Say 1.6 GW x 365 days * 24 hrs / day = 14 billion
: kwh
: When the government buys it at 0.4 euro/kwh, it is 5.6B euro a year for
: 20 years. That is 112B Euros, a big big burden for the country. It also
: locks
: up at very high cost of energy and gives away the benefit of
: 1) future solar cost reduction
: 2) development of other fuel source e.g. shale gas in Europe.
: For the same reasonSpain essentially removed its solar FIT program.
: It is very hard to be bullish in the space.
z*e
23 楼
European FIT prices are very generous as the government wants to encourage
people to invest in solar. Once solar is installed, the cost to generate
power
is almost zero (no fuel to burn, just maintenance). However, the price
government buys power from solar installer is very high: 40 euro cents.
In the US, natural gas power plants can generally power at ~3c at current
gas prices and wholesale power prices are not much higher than that.
of
【在 U********n 的大作中提到】
: If the government stipend is not deducted from the cost, how is the cost of
: the solar compared with the Coal power plant / hydroelectric station?
: I think it will still be very low cost compared with others?
: is it right?
people to invest in solar. Once solar is installed, the cost to generate
power
is almost zero (no fuel to burn, just maintenance). However, the price
government buys power from solar installer is very high: 40 euro cents.
In the US, natural gas power plants can generally power at ~3c at current
gas prices and wholesale power prices are not much higher than that.
of
【在 U********n 的大作中提到】
: If the government stipend is not deducted from the cost, how is the cost of
: the solar compared with the Coal power plant / hydroelectric station?
: I think it will still be very low cost compared with others?
: is it right?
U*n
24 楼
When will this policy will expire?
I heard that the EU will stop the encouragement some time soon?
Is that right?
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】
: European FIT prices are very generous as the government wants to encourage
: people to invest in solar. Once solar is installed, the cost to generate
: power
: is almost zero (no fuel to burn, just maintenance). However, the price
: government buys power from solar installer is very high: 40 euro cents.
: In the US, natural gas power plants can generally power at ~3c at current
: gas prices and wholesale power prices are not much higher than that.
:
: of
I heard that the EU will stop the encouragement some time soon?
Is that right?
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】
: European FIT prices are very generous as the government wants to encourage
: people to invest in solar. Once solar is installed, the cost to generate
: power
: is almost zero (no fuel to burn, just maintenance). However, the price
: government buys power from solar installer is very high: 40 euro cents.
: In the US, natural gas power plants can generally power at ~3c at current
: gas prices and wholesale power prices are not much higher than that.
:
: of
z*e
25 楼
Each country has its own policy
The talk of these days is that Italy may puts a 8GW cap on total
solar installation, and existing installation are approaching it quickly
That means after the cap reached, demand for new solar installations
will be essentially nil.
The article below tells what happened in Spain, which provides a good
example
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-18/spanish-solar-projects
subsidy-policies-founder.html
【在 U********n 的大作中提到】
: When will this policy will expire?
: I heard that the EU will stop the encouragement some time soon?
: Is that right?
The talk of these days is that Italy may puts a 8GW cap on total
solar installation, and existing installation are approaching it quickly
That means after the cap reached, demand for new solar installations
will be essentially nil.
The article below tells what happened in Spain, which provides a good
example
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-18/spanish-solar-projects
subsidy-policies-founder.html
【在 U********n 的大作中提到】
: When will this policy will expire?
: I heard that the EU will stop the encouragement some time soon?
: Is that right?
U*n
26 楼
I can not read the article you send to me.
Maybe need password or authority something.
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】
: Each country has its own policy
: The talk of these days is that Italy may puts a 8GW cap on total
: solar installation, and existing installation are approaching it quickly
: That means after the cap reached, demand for new solar installations
: will be essentially nil.
: The article below tells what happened in Spain, which provides a good
: example
: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-18/spanish-solar-projects
: subsidy-policies-founder.html
Maybe need password or authority something.
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】
: Each country has its own policy
: The talk of these days is that Italy may puts a 8GW cap on total
: solar installation, and existing installation are approaching it quickly
: That means after the cap reached, demand for new solar installations
: will be essentially nil.
: The article below tells what happened in Spain, which provides a good
: example
: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-18/spanish-solar-projects
: subsidy-policies-founder.html
z*e
27 楼
URL line breaker. Just paste 2nd line of URL... or google the keywords
【在 U********n 的大作中提到】
: I can not read the article you send to me.
: Maybe need password or authority something.
【在 U********n 的大作中提到】
: I can not read the article you send to me.
: Maybe need password or authority something.
f*1
28 楼
LDK has been a good pick to trade with for years.
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