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k*i2016-10-19 07:10

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How many of these rules do you follow?
http://get.chartpattern.com/super-follower-chris/
Chartpattern.com Interview notes with
Super Follower Chris
These are some of the basic rules and methods Chris H. claims he used to
turn $10k into over $2,400,000.00 since the April 2012 Chartpattern.com
Seminar. While these gains were not verified, we have no reason to doubt
the results after reviewing some of the trades during this interview. These
exceptional results did not come from luck, but rather a very passionate and
rigorous work schedule that includes nightly homework, weekly examinations,
monthly updating and yearly trade reviews.
1. No day-trading or chasing of stocks
2. No impulsive trading. Every trade is a planned buy point.
3. ONLY trades in the direction of the market trend and keeps track of
market conditions, sectors, and economic conditions
4. Uses weekly and daily charts to evaluate all trades and only moves to
lower time frames when filling an order on a breakout.
5. Uses the Chartpattern.com Newsletter to find candidates and get
market condition updates.
6. Looks for the strongest fundamental driven companies with 200k shares
or more volume daily. Scans once per month for the list of candidates.
7. Looks for growing fund ownership and top fund owners
8. While fundamentals are considered for stock selection, all entries
and exits are technical in nature, as Dan teaches in the seminar and on
Chartpattern.com
9. All buys are planned entries from homework that trigger out of a
solid base on above average volume.
10.4% Stop Loss on entry and allows the trade to sit near his cost for up to
3 weeks before considering to cut it.
11.Enters via Dan’s Golden Rules - 50% on breakout from the base, 30% add
on at 2% above the breakout and then the final 20% is added on the first
pullback after the breakout.
12.If shaken out of a base breakout, Chris is willing to double up on size
on a 2nd attempt to leave the base as the first set of traders have been
thrown off the trail.
13.Seeks to reach the 20% Golden Rules area and then looks to hold the
strongest acting names longer based on the daily and weekly charts.
14.Will only hold through earnings if 10% or higher cushion on the position.
15.Trades concentrated positions of just 5 stocks.
16.Uses Cash Management to use larger % of capital in early stages of the
market trend and as the market move becomes extended, expands to 80% cash
with 5 stocks using only 20% of the account value.
17.Sells using lessons from Dan Zanger’s seminar to scale out.
18.All sell signals are planned in the after-hours and executed the next day.
19.Ends every year with a 3-day full review of every trade to improve
entries, exit and management of trades.

W*n2016-10-19 07:10

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easier said
than
done

b*r2016-10-19 07:10

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Got my million after ignoring charts lol

y*r2016-10-19 07:10

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股票要有波动才能挣钱吧，要是一直这个猪样，怎么挣钱？
再说，已经有8年的牛市，回调一下可以涨得更高吧

k*i2016-10-19 07:10

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Of course it is HARD. That's why so few people are making any money in the
stock markets. Most are gamblers.

【在 W***n 的大作中提到】

: easier said
: than
: done

k*i2016-10-19 07:10

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The 10 Golden Rules and Tips:
http://www.chartpattern.com/10_golden_rules.html
Dan's 10 Golden Rules
1. Make sure the stock has a well formed base or pattern such as one
described on this web site and can be found on the tab "Understanding Chart
Patterns" on the home page, before considering purchase. Dan highlights
stocks with these patterns in his newsletter.
2. Consider the stock as it moves over the trend line of that base or
pattern and make sure that volume is above recent trend shortly after this "
breakout" occurs. Never pay up by more than 5% above the trend line. You
should also get to know your stock's thirty day moving average volume, which
you can find on most stock quote pages such as eSignal's quote page.
3. Be very quick to sell your stock should it return back under the trend
line or breakout point. Usually stops should be set about $1 below the
breakout point. The more expensive the stock, the more leeway you can give
it, but never have more than a $2 stop loss. Some people employ a 5% stop
loss rule. This may mean selling a stock that just tried to breakout and
fails in 20 minutes or 3 hours from the time it just broke out above your
purchase price.
4. Sell 20 to 30% of your position as the stock moves up 15 to 20% from its
breakout point.
5. Hold your strongest stocks the longest and sell stocks that stop moving
up or are acting sluggish quickly. Remember stocks are only good when they
are moving up.
6. Identify and follow strong groups of stocks and try to keep your
selections in these groups
7. After the market has moved for a substantial period of time, your stocks
will become vulnerable to a sell off, which can happen so fast and hard you
won't believe it. Learn to set new higher trend lines and learn reversal
patterns to help your exit of stocks. Some of you may benefit from reading a
book on Candlesticks or reading Encyclopedia of Chart Patterns, by
Bulkowski. These books can be found on our RECOMMENDED READING page on the
website.
8. Remember it takes volume to move stocks, so start getting to know your
stock's volume behavior and then how it reacts to spikes in volume. You can
see these spikes on any chart. Volume is the key to your stock's movement
and success or failure.
9. Many stocks are mentioned in the newsletter with buy points. However just
because it's mentioned with a buy point does not mean it's an outright buy
when a buy point is touched. One must first see the action in the stock and
combine it with its volume for the day at the time that buy point is hit and
take keen notice of the overall market environment before considering
purchases.
10. Never go on margin until you have mastered the market, charts and your
emotions. Margin can wipe you out.
Dan's Trading Tips
Note: If you are new to trading or investing, I suggest reading these rules
many times over until they become ingrained so you can act without emotions.
Stocks that breakout and move up with tremendous volume and close near the
highs of the day seem to work out best. However many stocks that move up 15%
or more on breakout day often fail. You'll just have to watch your stock's
action like a hawk and get to see and understand these things over a long
period of time. If trading were easy everyone would be making millions. It's
not; it takes years and years of hard work and long hours.
Many traders employ a half hour rule, meaning that for the first half hour
of the day many traders do not buy any stock that gaps up in price. If the
price holds after the first half hour then often many traders will step in
and buy the stock. I find this rule works well after the market has moved up
strongly for a few weeks but is not very effective at the start of a new
strong move.
If its earnings season then it's an absolute must that you know the date
your company reports its earnings. Many traders prefer to be out of a stock
100% before a company reports earnings in case the company misses earnings
or guides lower in which case the stock could plunge. Others reduce
positions substantially before earnings are released to lower risk as a
massive gap lower could be very destructive to your portfolio. The choice is
up to you. You can see an earnings calendar on this web site by clicking on
the Useful Stock Resources tab at the top of this page. Please verify this
information by calling the company or visiting the company's website which
you should be able to find in any search engine.
*The market moves in waves that can last anywhere from weeks to months. Then
a correction or setback starts, which can last anywhere from 5 to 8 weeks
or even as long at 4 to 6 months. If you are starting a free trial and are a
novice you may be lucky to join just as the market gets underway, in which
case you will see the full power of charting. If however you start after the
move has been going for sometime then things won't look as good as traders
are paring down positions. Or even worse the market could be selling down
hard and working off the prior up move in which case you will be completely
discouraged. The power of charts is through waiting for the correction to
end whereby the chart patterns will then be fully developed. After weeks of
base or pattern building, stocks will begin to lift off and that's when the
big rewards come in. The question is, are you willing to wait and be here
for the start of the next big move? The biggest mistake a novice can make is
to come back after a move has started.
*Please read a few times my interviews in Stocks and Commodities and Traders
' Magazine at the top of the home page of this web site. There are many tips
and how - to's that will greatly improve your ability to understand how
this works.
More good comments can be found in the FAQ section of this web site in the
member login area.
I give setups of stocks that are ready to potentially move. That's my job.
Your job is to get to know the stock and its movement along with the general
market each day. You are the only one that can do this in realtime during
market hours. Then if a stock acts well (i.e. volume is very heavy and the
stock is moving easily out of the base) then that is the one to buy. I do
not buy most stocks that breakout as most do not meet my heavy volume/price
action behavior during the day. Also, I buy only the most expensive stocks
as the percent loss is least if the stock pattern fails. High priced stocks
are the best quality stocks as a general rule in playing the market.
Remember to buy as close to the trendline as possible and the volume should
come in at least 10 to 20 minutes after you buy (or even earlier) and if not
by then, you know no one wants the stock and might as well check out early.
Thanks, Dan

k*i2016-10-19 07:10

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By the way I am not associated with chartpattern.com. His rules are
universal to any momentum based stock trading. Every time I lose more money
than I expected, I found myself not following one of his rules.

m*r2016-10-19 07:10

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wow, nice, FA master ar...

【在 b******r 的大作中提到】

: Got my million after ignoring charts lol

j*s2016-10-19 07:10

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怎么看着有点像软文

k*i2016-10-19 07:10

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是象软文，因为是从那个网站拷贝过来的。只要你跳过和网站有关的很少的几句，其余
的rules都是似乎平常却非常深刻的。

: 怎么看着有点像软文

【在 j**s 的大作中提到】

: 怎么看着有点像软文

b*r2016-10-19 07:10

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I have no idea of FA at all.
trading is based on your luck, isn't it?
[在 menger (朗月) 的大作中提到：]
:wow, nice, FA master ar...

m*r2016-10-19 07:10

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then how you trade ar? still TA even no chart?
no way base on luck! don't teasing la.

【在 b******r 的大作中提到】

: I have no idea of FA at all.
: trading is based on your luck, isn't it?
: [在 menger (朗月) 的大作中提到：]
: :wow, nice, FA master ar...

b*r2016-10-19 07:10

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First step don't trade individual stock, so called pick
Can you do it?
[在 menger (朗月) 的大作中提到：]
:then how you trade ar? still TA even no chart?
:no way base on luck! don't teasing la.

m*r2016-10-19 07:10

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for now, no. I just love reading news and stories on individual stocks, and
that gives me the faith of holding on...
but, in the future, after I get rich and econ independent, I really really
want to try out future, so at that point, will be no individual stocks. I
can't wait for my skill and cash to grow to be able to play future, to feel
that thrill.....

【在 b******r 的大作中提到】

: First step don't trade individual stock, so called pick
: Can you do it?
: [在 menger (朗月) 的大作中提到：]
: :then how you trade ar? still TA even no chart?
: :no way base on luck! don't teasing la.

b*r2016-10-19 07:10

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Just wrong idea by saying if I get rich I will do this do that...
Do the right thing to get rich.

m*r2016-10-19 07:10

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well, what I am doing now will get me rich.
but somehow future/commodities are something that I want to try. I've heard
so many exciting stories about it.

【在 b******r 的大作中提到】

: Just wrong idea by saying if I get rich I will do this do that...
: Do the right thing to get rich.

k*i2016-10-19 07:10

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You can totally ignore those who say trading is based on luck （and claimed
to make millions). Trading is hard work, plus discipline, and plus patience
. Unless you are lucky to be born rich :)

: Just wrong idea by saying if I get rich I will do this do that...

: Do the right thing to get rich.

【在 b******r 的大作中提到】

: Just wrong idea by saying if I get rich I will do this do that...
: Do the right thing to get rich.

k*i2016-10-19 07:10

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You don't need that much to trade futures. Maybe 50k-100k. But it is hard to
control risks if you still have gambling tendency (I got burned that way).
I have read stories about people lost hundreds of thousands in a few days
when they were caught in limit downs. Even if you are rich, you can lose
your house and pants easily :)
Longing Momentum stocks is the safest way (if you cut your losses), and can
scale up too when you have a few millions.

: well, what I am doing now will get me rich.

: but somehow future/commodities are something that I want to try. I've
heard

: so many exciting stories about it.

【在 m****r 的大作中提到】

:
: well, what I am doing now will get me rich.
: but somehow future/commodities are something that I want to try. I've heard
: so many exciting stories about it.

m*r2016-10-19 07:10

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claimed
patience
虎子is an established successful big trader. :)

【在 k*****i 的大作中提到】

: You can totally ignore those who say trading is based on luck （and claimed
: to make millions). Trading is hard work, plus discipline, and plus patience
: . Unless you are lucky to be born rich :)
:
:
: Just wrong idea by saying if I get rich I will do this do that...
:
: Do the right thing to get rich.
:

m*r2016-10-19 07:10

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to
.
can
ve
if I try future/commodities, I need to be able to last long enough to make
it a success. so need to have deep pocket first. :)
and while playing stocks, I hope I can build the skills that need for future
...
anyway that's just a dream for now...maybe I'll become so good at stocks and
lose interests in commodities. :)

【在 k*****i 的大作中提到】

: You don't need that much to trade futures. Maybe 50k-100k. But it is hard to
: control risks if you still have gambling tendency (I got burned that way).
: I have read stories about people lost hundreds of thousands in a few days
: when they were caught in limit downs. Even if you are rich, you can lose
: your house and pants easily :)
: Longing Momentum stocks is the safest way (if you cut your losses), and can
: scale up too when you have a few millions.
:
:
: well, what I am doing now will get me rich.
:
: but somehow future/commodities are something that I want to try. I've

k*i2016-10-19 07:10

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Any proof or just self claimed? I can't believe it unless he was joking
about the "luck" part.
By the way, how to create an "未名俱乐部"? It always error out when I try.
I want to create a superstocks club and privately discuss with like-minded
people.
Thanks.

【在 m****r 的大作中提到】

:
: to
: .
: can
: ve
: if I try future/commodities, I need to be able to last long enough to make
: it a success. so need to have deep pocket first. :)
: and while playing stocks, I hope I can build the skills that need for future
: ...
: anyway that's just a dream for now...maybe I'll become so good at stocks and

m*r2016-10-19 07:10

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somehow I trust him.
I don't know why you are getting error. you can send an email to mitbbs and
ask...I did not get error when I did that, except it asked for a better
description of the club.

【在 k*****i 的大作中提到】

: Any proof or just self claimed? I can't believe it unless he was joking
: about the "luck" part.
: By the way, how to create an "未名俱乐部"? It always error out when I try.
: I want to create a superstocks club and privately discuss with like-minded
: people.
: Thanks.

b*r2016-10-19 07:10

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I am dead serious on the LUCK part.
You have a long way to go to realize it.
All you did here makes no edge, all the rules, readings, techniques, etc. if
you don't understand that, only because you are still very young in the
trading life.

m*r2016-10-19 07:10

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if
but now you are getting luckier and luckier, right?

【在 b******r 的大作中提到】

: I am dead serious on the LUCK part.
: You have a long way to go to realize it.
: All you did here makes no edge, all the rules, readings, techniques, etc. if
: you don't understand that, only because you are still very young in the
: trading life.

b*r2016-10-19 07:10

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You could say that.
When u get bigger, your tolerance of mistakes gets bigger as well.
It's part of the luck.
[在 menger (朗月) 的大作中提到：]
:but now you are getting luckier and luckier, right?

k*i2016-10-19 07:10

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Somehow I laugh so hard can't breathe.
I am not saying you are wrong, but I would think you have you own definition
of "luck".
Definition of
luck
1.
success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's
own actions.
"it was just luck that the first kick went in"
synonyms: success, prosperity, good fortune, good luck
"I wish you luck"

【在 b******r 的大作中提到】

: You could say that.
: When u get bigger, your tolerance of mistakes gets bigger as well.
: It's part of the luck.
: [在 menger (朗月) 的大作中提到：]
: :but now you are getting luckier and luckier, right?

b*r2016-10-19 07:10

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Everything is on luck.
Otherwise, everyone read books or follow some rules becomes billionaire.
[在 kingami (king) 的大作中提到：]
:Somehow I laugh so hard can't breathe.
:I am not saying you are wrong, but I would think you have you own
definition of "luck".
:Definition of
:luck
:1.
:success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one'
;s
:own actions.
:"it was just luck that the first kick went in"
:synonyms: success, prosperity, good fortune, good luck
:"I wish you luck"

b*r2016-10-19 07:10

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Ask yourself, what's your own edge?
How can you be so different than other people in the market? Are you smarter
? Better personality? Working harder? Programming better?
There is no exception that you will end up with the conclusion: no, I am
just as normal as everyone else. I am just luckier. :-)

m*r2016-10-19 07:10

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en, and you are more skilled which help brings more luck.

【在 b******r 的大作中提到】

m*r2016-10-19 07:10

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smarter
my edge is i have the best teacher and also always get helps from experts
like you. :)

【在 b******r 的大作中提到】

: Ask yourself, what's your own edge?
: How can you be so different than other people in the market? Are you smarter
: ? Better personality? Working harder? Programming better?
: There is no exception that you will end up with the conclusion: no, I am
: just as normal as everyone else. I am just luckier. :-)

m*r2016-10-19 07:10

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if I were you, I would not create a club, because I believe discussions here
will get you more benefits. when you are sincere, the experts here will
help.
if you just do that in your club, you'll miss these advice. and I am not
sure how many truly experts will join your club. :)

【在 k*****i 的大作中提到】

k*i2016-10-19 07:10

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You have to be special or think differently to be successful in the market.
You seem to be lucky when you pick the right stocks or have good timing. But
luck is not the cause. It is the result of your hardwork, your mental
toughness and your ability to accept mistakes without affecting next trade.

: Ask yourself, what's your own edge?

: How can you be so different than other people in the market? Are you
smarter

: ? Better personality? Working harder? Programming better?

: There is no exception that you will end up with the conclusion: no, I
am

: just as normal as everyone else. I am just luckier. :-)

【在 b******r 的大作中提到】